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From: 


Jonathan Holt <plantpot_73@y...> 
Date:  Mon Jan 27, 2003  6:19
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] TD fans, football, sport in general (about 75% OT)


I guess we'll have to disagree on sport. I think the
'emotional attachment' is a crucial element.
And I always got dirty in rugby at school ;-)
As for Yank Football v Rugby - well, each to their
own.
BTW That was an inventive way to get the posting at
least 25% on topic!


> 
> Rubbish. It has fabulous athletisicm, tactical
> interest, and is utterly, mind-bogglingly
> violent (far more so that rugby, which is 
> tame by comparison). And I'm a Brit who grew 
> up in the heart of Rugby League country. Saw 
> the light 10 years or so ago, and I've hardly
> bothered with rugby since, other than playing 
> occasionally for fun.
> 
> Best of all, because it's a foreign, alien
> sport, I have absolutely no emotional
> attachment to any team, so there's none
> of that horrified watching-through-fingers 
> that is so exhausting whenever
> England play (and lose) in the World Cup.
> 
> TD content: didn't it say on the old TD
> website that Edgar and Jerome are big
> fans of American footy? Surely, given its
> tactical complexity, extensive use of 
> technology, and the notion of players-
> as-chess-pieces-controlled-by-the-coaches,
> it's a sport with a built-in appeal for
> 'geeky' types.
> 
> In general, I wonder how many TD fans are
> sporty? I was always a decent rugby player
> at school ('Hey, you can smash into people
> and knock them over and not get in trouble
> for it!') and played on the school first
> team on merit (and on the soccer and
> cricket teams because there was so little
> talent that any warm body would do). 
> But since then my sporting activity has 
> been restricted to running, the odd rugby 
> game, and watching NFL games on the telly.
> 
> But I get the impression that many TD fans 
> are the weedy, glasses-wearing types who used
> to play out on the wing so they wouldn't 
> get tackled or have to tackle anybody, and 
> always finished Games lessons with their kit 
> still clean. Except on the days when Mr Bridge
> would give us permission to chuck them into 
> the nearest puddle :-)
> 
> Glynn
> 
> 
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From: 


'maggior <maggior@m...>' <maggior@m...> 
Date:  Mon Jan 27, 2003  6:30
pm
Subject:  Formatted DWT III tree structure


Europe:

Fred Yargui (fredericyargui@w...)
Alan Miller (diamondsndust@l...)
Andrew Prime (andrew@p...)
Grant Somerville (grant.somerville@v...)
David Syrett(david_syrett@h...)
Steve Yensen (stephen.yensen@s...)
Paul Ridout (thenite0wl@a...)
Marion Horrod (marion@h...)
Philip Meyer (phil@h...)
Jerome Salyers (ssaalyersjj@y...)
Bjorn Sip (bjoernsip@g...)
Olle Rundgren (olle.rundgren@s...)
Mikael Runsten (micke.stark@g...)
René Brenner (rene.brenner@f...)
Kostas Karlis (koulos@s...)
Nicola Cont (Nicola@c...)
Roger Hartopp (gmroger@p...)
Hilary Wright (dreamstogo@n...)
Antonio Nunes (hyperborean@m...)
Carlos Oliviera (caobe@n...)
Herbert (gae@g...)

North America, etc.

Tom Richmond (trichmond@b...)
Rich Maggio (maggior@m...)
Michael Piersanti (km.design@v...)
Roger Smith (rogersmith3@h...)
Greg Waltzer (gwaltzer@o...)
Dave Steiner (steiner@b...)
Craig Claerbaut (craigc@s...)
Mike Daniels (daniels@l...)
Jason Hyman (locrian@c...)
Gary Allen (frntrw@e...)
John McIntyre (mcintyre@p...)
Tom Weibrecht (tweibrecht@j...)
Dan Downey jambient@a...)
Robert Asmus asmus0324@c...)
Allison Rich (alysoun@c...)
Bob Wentz(bob.wentz@w...)
Jed Levin (jed@m...)
Bob D'Aprile (rgd730@y...)
Martin McKee (janiner@n...)
Harry Besler (TaDream@c...)
Miles MacMillan (mmacmillan@c...)
Mike Surber (msurber@c...)
Rogelio Cavazos (tranceroy@y...)
Dell Outland (outlanda60@h...)
Gustavo Jobim (gustavojobim@s...)
Marc Todd (marctodd@h...)
James Owens (James.E.Owens@m...)
Neal Frost (strat95@b...)
Tim Lemon (timl@g...)
Vic Rek (tangerinedream@a...)
Jeff Stevenson (greymane@g...)
Mark Zussman (markx55@a...)
Chris Monk (cmonk73@h...)
Arno Kolster (akolster@m...)
Roy Teale (3DLux@3...)
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Craig Padilla (craigpadilla@u...)
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From: 


'maggior <maggior@m...>' <maggior@m...> 
Date:  Mon Jan 27, 2003  6:32
pm
Subject:  Re: Formatted DWT III tree structure


OK, so much for my theories. I'll leave this to the experts! :-)

I'm through cluttering up the archives for today. Sorry.

--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'maggior <maggior@m...>' 
<maggior@m...> wrote:
> Europe:
> 
> Fred Yargui (fredericyargui@w...)
> Alan Miller (diamondsndust@l...)
> Andrew Prime (andrew@p...)
> Grant Somerville (grant.somerville@v...)
> David Syrett(david_syrett@h...)
> Steve Yensen (stephen.yensen@s...)
> Paul Ridout (thenite0wl@a...)
> Marion Horrod (marion@h...)
> Philip Meyer (phil@h...)
> Jerome Salyers (ssaalyersjj@y...)
> Bjorn Sip (bjoernsip@g...)
> Olle Rundgren (olle.rundgren@s...)
> Mikael Runsten (micke.stark@g...)
> René Brenner (rene.brenner@f...)
> Kostas Karlis (koulos@s...)
> Nicola Cont (Nicola@c...)
> Roger Hartopp (gmroger@p...)
> Hilary Wright (dreamstogo@n...)
> Antonio Nunes (hyperborean@m...)
> Carlos Oliviera (caobe@n...)
> Herbert (gae@g...)
> 
> North America, etc.
> 
> Tom Richmond (trichmond@b...)
> Rich Maggio (maggior@m...)
> Michael Piersanti (km.design@v...)
> Roger Smith (rogersmith3@h...)
> Greg Waltzer (gwaltzer@o...)
> Dave Steiner (steiner@b...)
> Craig Claerbaut (craigc@s...)
> Mike Daniels (daniels@l...)
> Jason Hyman (locrian@c...)
> Gary Allen (frntrw@e...)
> John McIntyre (mcintyre@p...)
> Tom Weibrecht (tweibrecht@j...)
> Dan Downey jambient@a...)
> Robert Asmus asmus0324@c...)
> Allison Rich (alysoun@c...)
> Bob Wentz(bob.wentz@w...)
> Jed Levin (jed@m...)
> Bob D'Aprile (rgd730@y...)
> Martin McKee (janiner@n...)
> Harry Besler (TaDream@c...)
> Miles MacMillan (mmacmillan@c...)
> Mike Surber (msurber@c...)
> Rogelio Cavazos (tranceroy@y...)
> Dell Outland (outlanda60@h...)
> Gustavo Jobim (gustavojobim@s...)
> Marc Todd (marctodd@h...)
> James Owens (James.E.Owens@m...)
> Neal Frost (strat95@b...)
> Tim Lemon (timl@g...)
> Vic Rek (tangerinedream@a...)
> Jeff Stevenson (greymane@g...)
> Mark Zussman (markx55@a...)
> Chris Monk (cmonk73@h...)
> Arno Kolster (akolster@m...)
> Roy Teale (3DLux@3...)
> David Serfozo (forcemajeure27@a...)
> Craig Padilla (craigpadilla@u...)
> Dale Kay (admin@k...)
> John Marchington (johnm@p...)
> John Field (roganjosh@o...)
> Jon Wade (sakkshack@h...)
> Hank Pharis (hankph@m...)
> Joe Shoults (joe@t...)
> Tom George (eloy_usa@y...)


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From: 


'Tom Richmond' <trichmond@b...> 
Date:  Mon Jan 27, 2003  6:32
pm
Subject:  DWT III trees


Ok. Plain text this time. Entirely my fault...

Europe:

Fred Yargui (fredericyargui@w...)
Alan Miller (diamondsndust@l...)
Andrew Prime (andrew@p...)
Grant Somerville (grant.somerville@v...)
David Syrett (david_syrett@h...)
Steve Yensen (stephen.yensen@s...)
Paul Ridout (thenite0wl@a...)
Marion Horrod (marion@h...)
Philip Meyer (phil@h...)
Jerome Salyers (ssaalyersjj@y...)
Bjorn Sip (bjoernsip@g...)
Olle Rundgren (olle.rundgren@s...)
Mikael Runsten (micke.stark@g...)
René Brenner (rene.brenner@f...)
Kostas Karlis (koulos@s...)
Nicola Cont (Nicola@c...)
Roger Hartopp (gmroger@p...)
Hilary Wright (dreamstogo@n...)
Antonio Nunes (hyperborean@m...)
Carlos Oliviera (caobe@n...)
Herbert (gae@g...)


North America, etc.

Tom Richmond (trichmond@b...)
Rich Maggio (maggior@m...)
Michael Piersanti (km.design@v...)
Roger Smith (rogersmith3@h...)
Greg Waltzer (gwaltzer@o...)
Dave Steiner (steiner@b...)
Craig Claerbaut (craigc@s...)
Mike Daniels (daniels@l...)
Jason Hyman (locrian@c...)
Gary Allen (frntrw@e...)
John McIntyre (mcintyre@p...)
Tom Weibrecht (tweibrecht@j...)
Dan Downey (djambient@a...)
Robert Asmus (asmus0324@c...)
Allison Rich (alysoun@c...)
Bob Wentz (bob.wentz@w...)
Jed Levin (jed@m...)
Bob D'Aprile (rgd730@y...)
Martin McKee (janiner@n...)
Harry Besler (TaDream@c...)
Miles MacMillan (mmacmillan@c...)
Mike Surber (msurber@c...)
Rogelio Cavazos (tranceroy@y...)
Dell Outland (outlanda60@h...)
Gustavo Jobim (gustavojobim@s...)
Marc Todd (marctodd@h...)
James Owens (James.E.Owens@m...)
Neal Frost (strat95@b...)
Tim Lemon (timl@g...)
Vic Rek (tangerinedream@a...)
Jeff Stevenson (greymane@g...)
Mark Zussman (markx55@a...)
Chris Monk (cmonk73@h...)
Arno Kolster (akolster@m...)
Roy Teale (3DLux@3...)
David Serfozo (forcemajeure27@a...)
Craig Padilla (craigpadilla@u...)
Dale Kay (admin@k...)
John Marchington (johnm@p...)
John Field (roganjosh@o...)
Jon Wade (sakkshack@h...)
Hank Pharis (hankph@m...)
Joe Shoults (joe@t...)
Tom George (eloy_usa@y...)


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From: 


'Micke Stark Runsten' <micke.stark@g...> 
Date:  Mon Jan 27, 2003  6:41
pm
Subject:  SV: [tadream] Formatted DWT III tree structure


Looks fine, both your´s and Tom´s, in Outlook 2000.

/Micke

> -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
> Från: maggior <maggior@m...> [mailto:maggior@m...]
> Skickat: den 27 januari 2003 19:31
> Till: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Ämne: [tadream] Formatted DWT III tree structure
>
>
> Europe:
>
> Fred Yargui (fredericyargui@w...)
> Alan Miller (diamondsndust@l...)
> Andrew Prime (andrew@p...)
> Grant Somerville (grant.somerville@v...)
> David Syrett(david_syrett@h...)
> Steve Yensen (stephen.yensen@s...)
> Paul Ridout (thenite0wl@a...)
> Marion Horrod (marion@h...)
> Philip Meyer (phil@h...)
> Jerome Salyers (ssaalyersjj@y...)
> Bjorn Sip (bjoernsip@g...)
> Olle Rundgren (olle.rundgren@s...)
> Mikael Runsten (micke.stark@g...)
> René Brenner (rene.brenner@f...)
> Kostas Karlis (koulos@s...)
> Nicola Cont (Nicola@c...)
> Roger Hartopp (gmroger@p...)
> Hilary Wright (dreamstogo@n...)
> Antonio Nunes (hyperborean@m...)
> Carlos Oliviera (caobe@n...)
> Herbert (gae@g...)
>
> North America, etc.
>
> Tom Richmond (trichmond@b...)
> Rich Maggio (maggior@m...)
> Michael Piersanti (km.design@v...)
> Roger Smith (rogersmith3@h...)
> Greg Waltzer (gwaltzer@o...)
> Dave Steiner (steiner@b...)
> Craig Claerbaut (craigc@s...)
> Mike Daniels (daniels@l...)
> Jason Hyman (locrian@c...)
> Gary Allen (frntrw@e...)
> John McIntyre (mcintyre@p...)
> Tom Weibrecht (tweibrecht@j...)
> Dan Downey jambient@a...)
> Robert Asmus asmus0324@c...)
> Allison Rich (alysoun@c...)
> Bob Wentz(bob.wentz@w...)
> Jed Levin (jed@m...)
> Bob D'Aprile (rgd730@y...)
> Martin McKee (janiner@n...)
> Harry Besler (TaDream@c...)
> Miles MacMillan (mmacmillan@c...)
> Mike Surber (msurber@c...)
> Rogelio Cavazos (tranceroy@y...)
> Dell Outland (outlanda60@h...)
> Gustavo Jobim (gustavojobim@s...)
> Marc Todd (marctodd@h...)
> James Owens (James.E.Owens@m...)
> Neal Frost (strat95@b...)
> Tim Lemon (timl@g...)
> Vic Rek (tangerinedream@a...)
> Jeff Stevenson (greymane@g...)
> Mark Zussman (markx55@a...)
> Chris Monk (cmonk73@h...)
> Arno Kolster (akolster@m...)
> Roy Teale (3DLux@3...)
> David Serfozo (forcemajeure27@a...)
> Craig Padilla (craigpadilla@u...)
> Dale Kay (admin@k...)
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> John Field (roganjosh@o...)
> Jon Wade (sakkshack@h...)
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<MESSAGE index="38506">
From: 


'Tom Richmond' <trichmond@b...> 
Date:  Mon Jan 27, 2003  6:46
pm
Subject:  If this doesn't do it I don't know what will...


I'm starting to feel like a spammer...
This should do it. It's not pretty, but it lines things up.


Europe:

Fred Yargui (fredericyargui@w...)
-----Alan Miller (diamondsndust@l...)
----------Andrew Prime (andrew@p...)
---------------Grant Somerville (grant.somerville@v...)
---------------David Syrett (david_syrett@h...)
---------------Steve Yensen (stephen.yensen@s...)
----------Paul Ridout (thenite0wl@a...)
----------Marion Horrod (marion@h...)
----------Philip Meyer (phil@h...)
-----Jerome Salyers (ssaalyersjj@y...)
----------Bjorn Sip (bjoernsip@g...)
---------------Olle Rundgren (olle.rundgren@s...)
---------------Mikael Runsten (micke.stark@g...)
----------René Brenner (rene.brenner@f...)
---------------Kostas Karlis (koulos@s...)
---------------Nicola Cont (Nicola@c...)
----------Roger Hartopp (gmroger@p...)
-----Hilary Wright (dreamstogo@n...)
----------Antonio Nunes (hyperborean@m...)
---------------Carlos Oliviera (caobe@n...)
----------Herbert (gae@g...)


North America, etc.

Tom Richmond (trichmond@b...)
-----Rich Maggio (maggior@m...)
----------Michael Piersanti (km.design@v...)
---------------Roger Smith (rogersmith3@h...)
---------------Greg Waltzer (gwaltzer@o...)
---------------Dave Steiner (steiner@b...)
----------Craig Claerbaut (craigc@s...)
---------------Mike Daniels (daniels@l...)
--------------------Jason Hyman (locrian@c...)
--------------------Gary Allen (frntrw@e...)
--------------------John McIntyre (mcintyre@p...)
---------------Tom Weibrecht (tweibrecht@j...)
--------------------Dan Downey (djambient@a...)
-------------------------Robert Asmus (asmus0324@c...)
-------------------------Allison Rich (alysoun@c...)
-------------------------Bob Wentz (bob.wentz@w...)
--------------------Jed Levin (jed@m...)
--------------------Bob D'Aprile (rgd730@y...)
---------------Martin McKee (janiner@n...)
---------------Harry Besler (TaDream@c...)
----------Miles MacMillan (mmacmillan@c...)
-----Mike Surber (msurber@c...)
----------Rogelio Cavazos (tranceroy@y...)
---------------Dell Outland (outlanda60@h...)
---------------Gustavo Jobim (gustavojobim@s...)
---------------Marc Todd (marctodd@h...)
----------James Owens (James.E.Owens@m...)
---------------Neal Frost (strat95@b...)
---------------Tim Lemon (timl@g...)
---------------Vic Rek (tangerinedream@a...)
---------------Jeff Stevenson (greymane@g...)
----------Mark Zussman (markx55@a...)
----------Chris Monk (cmonk73@h...)
-----Arno Kolster (akolster@m...)
----------Roy Teale (3DLux@3...)
---------------David Serfozo (forcemajeure27@a...)
---------------Craig Padilla (craigpadilla@u...)
---------------Dale Kay (admin@k...)
----------John Marchington (johnm@p...)
---------------John Field (roganjosh@o...)
----------Jon Wade (sakkshack@h...)
----------Hank Pharis (hankph@m...)
-----Joe Shoults (joe@t...)
-----Tom George (eloy_usa@y...)


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From: 


'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Mon Jan 27, 2003  7:34
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] TD fans, football, sport in general (about 75% OT)


> > In general, I wonder how many TD fans are
> > sporty? I was always a decent rugby player
> > at school ('Hey, you can smash into people
> > and knock them over and not get in trouble
> > for it!') and played on the school first
> > team on merit (and on the soccer and
> > cricket teams because there was so little
> > talent that any warm body would do).
> > But since then my sporting activity has
> > been restricted to running, the odd rugby
> > game, and watching NFL games on the telly.
> >
> > But I get the impression that many TD fans
> > are the weedy, glasses-wearing types who used
> > to play out on the wing so they wouldn't
> > get tackled or have to tackle anybody, and
> > always finished Games lessons with their kit
> > still clean. Except on the days when Mr Bridge
> > would give us permission to chuck them into
> > the nearest puddle :-)
> >
> > Glynn


I don't like sports, but it's not because I'd be afraid of this or that. I 
just lack a will of competition; thus, I liked school sports as long as 
winning didn't matter.
Biking, proper physical work, any other type of exercise where you actually 
produce something - that's nice. Stuff done just for fun (children's games, 
building a snow castle, etc) is OK too. But having to fight over anything is 
not for me.
(Do I lack testosterone?)

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From: 


'braddito <toby.braddick@u...>' <toby.braddick@u...> 
Date:  Tue Jan 28, 2003  8:37
am
Subject:  Re: TD fans, football, sport in general (about 75% OT)


An interesting thought. Going back to my school days, I represented 
the school at football, cricket, basketball, volleyball and athletics 
but on reflection, I was the only one of all the TD fans that did.

Toby

--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Glynn Naughton 
<glynn_naughton@h...>' <glynn_naughton@h...> wrote:
> 
> But I get the impression that many TD fans 
> are the weedy, glasses-wearing types who used
> to play out on the wing so they wouldn't 
> get tackled or have to tackle anybody, and 
> always finished Games lessons with their kit 
> still clean. Except on the days when Mr Bridge
> would give us permission to chuck them into 
> the nearest puddle :-)
> 
> Glynn


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From: 


'billythefish01 <mudspanker@y...>' <mudspanker@y...> 
Date:  Tue Jan 28, 2003  10:00
am
Subject:  Re: TD fans, football, sport in general (about 75% OT)


I love this analogy! 

It works well for mountain bikes too... something to do with the 
humming of knobbly tyres, the clicking of gears and the whirring of 
the chain - all seem to remind me of 1970s / 80s TD. I often find 
myself remembering a part of Exit or White Eagle whilst haring 
through the forests of South Wales or the mountains of the Lake 
District.

My bike even has a computer on it - not to mention GPS and LED 
lighting (although I am not sure what GPS would have to do with 
TD... maybe finding your way out of Mojave desert?)

TTFN

BTF


> TD content: didn't it say on the old TD
> website that Edgar and Jerome are big
> fans of American footy? Surely, given its
> tactical complexity, extensive use of 
> technology, and the notion of players-
> as-chess-pieces-controlled-by-the-coaches,
> it's a sport with a built-in appeal for
> 'geeky' types.


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From: 


'Greg' <designx@c...> 
Date:  Tue Jan 28, 2003  11:27
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: TD fans, football, sport in general (about 75% OT)


LOL you wouldn't need a GPS to find your way out of the Mojave
desert! Just look for the pollution of the cities or the chain of big
pickups pulling
boats! Seriously, I live next to the Colorado river and when I take the long
drive at night along a road that follows next to the river, I love to play
Green Desert. It fits perfectly. The erratic drumming churns along as I
travel
the torn road like a rattling train. The organic sounds and aura of darkness
fit with the heavy air of humidity and sense of claustrophobia. The desert
becomes
alive, a creature that is lurking, intelligent, and much larger than I. The
music makes
me realize the danger. A danger that tells me I don't belong here, and a
danger
that scares me for traveling along a long road that this desert treats as a
searing
paper cut. No need to dream this, it happens right in front of me.

Greg H.

> My bike even has a computer on it - not to mention GPS and LED
> lighting (although I am not sure what GPS would have to do with
> TD... maybe finding your way out of Mojave desert?)


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From: 


'tei waz' <teiwazbarana@h...> 
Date:  Tue Jan 28, 2003  4:48
pm
Subject:  TD opening olympic themes


From: 'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...>

>Could have
made an exception with the two olympics in which they played TD as opening
themes, though <

um, excuse my ignorance--which ones were those again?

--T


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<MESSAGE index="38512">
From: 


Armin Theissen <Armin.Theissen@s...> 
Date:  Tue Jan 28, 2003  4:53
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] TD opening olympic themes


One was Atlanta 96 (I remember Poland being played, though not when
the polish entered, and maybe Le Parc was the other one).
Don't know the other Olympics. Munich 72 maybe? ;-)

armin

tei waz wrote:

> From: 'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...>
> 
>>Could have
>>
> made an exception with the two olympics in which they played TD as opening
> themes, though <
> 
> um, excuse my ignorance--which ones were those again?
> 
> --T
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<MESSAGE index="38513">
From: 


'Piotr Millennium 3' <piotr3@a...> 
Date:  Tue Jan 28, 2003  4:57
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] TD opening olympic themes


Hi,

A Time for Heroes - The official theme music for the 1987 International 
Summer Special Olympic Games.


Pozdrawiam 

Piotr S. 'Millennium'

http://www.astercity.net/~sulas/


> 
> One was Atlanta 96 (I remember Poland being played, though not when
> the polish entered, and maybe Le Parc was the other one).
> Don't know the other Olympics. Munich 72 maybe? ;-)
> 
> armin
> 
> tei waz wrote:
> 
> > From: 'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...>
> > 
> >>Could have
> >>
> > made an exception with the two olympics in which they played TD as opening
> > themes, though <
> > 
> > um, excuse my ignorance--which ones were those again?
> > 
> > --T


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38514">
From: 


'tei waz' <teiwazbarana@h...> 
Date:  Tue Jan 28, 2003  5:01
pm
Subject:  re: TD opening olympic themes


>
A Time for Heroes - The official theme music for the 1987 International
Summer Special Olympic Games.<

I was aware of this one--thought John V meant the real olympics....

--T

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<MESSAGE index="38515">
From: 


'Alistair Hull <tadream@a...>' <tadream@a...> 
Date:  Tue Jan 28, 2003  6:01
pm
Subject:  Where will the Feb 15th Pre-show be?


Sorry if this has already been asked, but has there been a concensus 
on where the pre-show fan gathering will be held on Feb 15th?

Thanks
Alistair


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<MESSAGE index="38516">
From: 


'billythefish01 <mudspanker@y...>' <mudspanker@y...> 
Date:  Tue Jan 28, 2003  7:06
pm
Subject:  Re: Where will the Feb 15th Pre-show be?


See message 38479 :-

<<There are a number of pubs in the area - The Tottenham (Shaftesbury
Avenue) is the nearest, looks small from the outside but has a 
downstairs
area - popular with tourists. The Moon Under Water is 300 metres 
away in
Charing Cross Road on the same side as the Astoria, a larger pub - a
drinker's watering hole. The Jack Horner is 400 metres away in the 
Tottenham
Court Road, a larger tradional pub - better for a quieter drink.>>

I tend to agree that the Jack Horner would be more suitable...

Happy to go with the flow though (and won't be drinking much for 
fear of missing some of the show in the WC!)

BTF


--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Alistair Hull <tadream@a...>' 
<tadream@a...> wrote:
> Sorry if this has already been asked, but has there been a 
concensus 
> on where the pre-show fan gathering will be held on Feb 15th?
> 
> Thanks
> Alistair


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<MESSAGE index="38517">
From: 


'Carlos Oliveira' <caobe@n...> 
Date:  Mon Jan 27, 2003  9:09
pm
Subject:  [tadream] DWT III trees


Hi Tom...

I made some trees in RS group and do like this:

1.1.a Administrator, supplies 1.1.a, 2.1.a, 3.1.a, and so on
1.1.a Seed, supplies 1.2.a, 1.3.a, 1.4.a, and so on
1.2.a Branch, supplies 1.2.1.b, 1.2.2.b, 1.2.3.b, and so on
1.2.1.b Leaf
1.2.2.b Leaf
1.2.3.b Leaf
1.3.a Branch
1.3.1.b Leaf
1.3.2.b Leaf
1.3.3.b Leaf
1.4.a Branch
1.4.1.b Leaf
1.4.2.b Leaf
1.4.3.b Leaf
2.1.a Seed
2.2.a Branch
2.3.a Branch
2.4.a Branch
3.1.a Seed
3.2.a Branch
3.3.a Branch
3.4.a Branch

I hope you understand my system, it's easy...

And now who is my branch?
Hilary Wright (dreamstogo@n..., or
Antonio Nunes (hyperborean@m...?...

Thankx for running this tree a spread the TD music...
Carlos Oliveira from Portugal
caobe@n...

'Education is the best provision for the journey to old age.'
Aristotle (384 BC-322 BC.); Greek philosopher.


Ok. Plain text this time. Entirely my fault...

Europe:

Fred Yargui (fredericyargui@w...)
Alan Miller (diamondsndust@l...)
Andrew Prime (andrew@p...)
Grant Somerville (grant.somerville@v...)
David Syrett (david_syrett@h...)
Steve Yensen (stephen.yensen@s...)
Paul Ridout (thenite0wl@a...)
Marion Horrod (marion@h...)
Philip Meyer (phil@h...)


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<MESSAGE index="38518">
From: 


'omegatransfinito <johnvertical@h...>' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Tue Jan 28, 2003  7:19
pm
Subject:  Re: TD opening olympic themes


--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'tei waz' 
<teiwazbarana@h...> wrote:
> 
> >
> A Time for Heroes - The official theme music for the 1987 
International
> Summer Special Olympic Games.<
> 
> I was aware of this one--thought John V meant the real 
olympics....
> 
> --T


Hmm, I though so too :D Here's yet another example just how 
ignorant I am when it comes to sports...
Yes, the other one was, like Armin mentioned in the previous 
message, Atlanta 96 with Warsaw in the Sun and, umm, 
something off Le Parc (-Streethawk?). This info used to be in the 
old TDI Q&A, they seem to have removed that by now...

John Vertical


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38519">
From: 


'Whiteley, Steve' <steve.whiteley@s...> 
Date:  Tue Jan 28, 2003  7:59
pm
Subject:  TD and sports


can be one.

opinionated whiners. ;)
Don't like it, Don't watch it, Don't buy it.
You all bring out the rant in me again.

I understand Debra (Lancaster goat girl) found her Super Bowl birthday hard,
but you could look at it as if all the Football parties were for you too. If
you said it was your birthday before the kickoff you could here the whole
neighborhood cheer for you. All TD fans making babies need to consider
avoiding competition for your kids birthdays. Procreate responsible, ;).

I guess I'm a big fan of teamwork in sports, probably similar to when a band
gets a good groove. I still play lots of soccer and basketball, love
backcountry telemark skiing and mountain climbing. American Football has
extreme conditioning, discipline, teamwork and brutality. My football
experience resembled boot camp for the military, other sports never stressed
me as much. Football playbooks and rulebooks are huge, the game is complex
and hard for newbies to understand. The high salaries for football,
basketball and baseball takes many of America's best athletes from soccer.
Never guess what I think will happen when soccer salaries start competing.
Don't let the dumb jock stereotype obscure your vision.

There is an energized but quiet state of mind that helps me in sports, TD
helped me find that space. I regularly use TD and other EM to help put me
into the quiet focused state, for work, fun and play.

Its always fun for me to see someone put there heart and soul into
something, music and sports.

Gruden was awesome.

Nottingham 76 is still one of my all time favorites.
Others recent favorites:
RedShift - Halo
FSP - Atmospheric Conditions
RMI - Organ Harvest (wish I would have bought this RMI first)

anybody have the latest Nemesis CD?

****************************************************************************
*****************

Message: 5
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 14:06:09 +0200
From: 'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...>
Subject: Re: No TD...sorry

> > I can't think of
> > anything more boring than American Football.
>
>agree............american football, soccer = ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz


IMHO any spectator sports is utterly boring... I never watch any. Could have

made an exception with the two olympics in which they played TD as opening 
themes, though ;)

John Vertical


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<MESSAGE index="38520">
From: 


'Glenn Folkvord \(Hyperion Media\)' <glenn@f...> 
Date:  Tue Jan 28, 2003  5:35
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] TD opening olympic themes


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Armin Theissen' <Armin.Theissen@s...>


> One was Atlanta 96 (I remember Poland being played, though not when
> the polish entered, and maybe Le Parc was the other one).
> Don't know the other Olympics. Munich 72 maybe? ;-)

In Atlanta they played alot of electronic music: Jarre (when the French
entered) (two songs), Vangelis and Yanni AFAIR.

Glenn


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38521">
From: 


'Owens, James' <james.owens@m...> 
Date:  Tue Jan 28, 2003  8:07
pm
Subject:  OT: E-music in Hitchhiker's Guide Radio show


Hi all,

I just finished listening to 'The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy' radio
show, and I noticed several familiar tunes through some of the episodes,
especially when 'The Book' is talking. I distictly heard a couple sections
of Oxygene, but I also heard some VERY familiar sounding pieces that I
couldn't place. (No TD AFAIK). The title song is 'Journey of the Sorceror'
by The Eagles, one of their rare all-instrumental tracks.

Does anyone happen to know of a list of 'incidental' music that was used for
these shows?

James


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38522">
From: 


'Fred Yargui' <fredericyargui@w...> 
Date:  Tue Jan 28, 2003  8:13
pm
Subject:  RE : [tadream] from trees to RS


Heloo, Carlos and Dreamers,
Who is RS ? Robert Schroeder ?
Regards,

Fred

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Carlos Oliveira [mailto:caobe@n...] 
> Envoyé : lundi 27 janvier 2003 22:10
> À : tadream@yahoogroups.com; tangerinedream@yahoogroups.com; 
> beyon_em@yahoogroups.com
> Cc : trichmond@b...
> Objet : [tadream] DWT III trees
> 
> 
> Hi Tom...
> 
> I made some trees in RS group and do like this:
> 
> 1.1.a Administrator, supplies 1.1.a, 2.1.a, 3.1.a, and so on
(snip)


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<MESSAGE index="38523">
From: 


'omegatransfinito <johnvertical@h...>' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Tue Jan 28, 2003  8:15
pm
Subject:  Re: TD fans, football, sport in general (about 75% OT)


>(although I am not sure what GPS would have to do with 
> TD... maybe finding your way out of Mojave desert?)
> 
> TTFN
> 
> BTF


(The damn Yahoo decided to not let me post this message the 
previous time, so I'm trying again...)

How about Big Sleep In Search Of Hades, or Drunken Mozart In 
The Desert? Or even 'GasPian Sea'? ;b

...which reminds me about a really strange dream I had a while 
ago. Its TD content was 2 new Virgin SBM's...
The first one was a live show from December 1974 remixed by 
some random DJ (argh!), with 3 tracks: 'Desert <something>' 
parts 1 and 2, and '666'. It had a lime green cover with a ripply 
texture.
The other was 'Silver Scale and other tracks', also awkwardly 
remixed. Drunken Mozart was one of those other tracks. This had 
a smooth banana yellow cover, with a hint of green in it, too.

John Vertical (whaddaya mean, weird??)


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38524">
From: 


Antonio Nunes <hyperborean@m...> 
Date:  Tue Jan 28, 2003  8:59
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] DWT III trees


Carlos Oliveira wrote:
> 
> Thankx for running this tree a spread the TD music...

This tree is not for TD music. It's music by members of this list.
Would someone please post the URL where the artwork can be downloaded.

> And now who is my branch?

I think it's me. Please contact me off list.

Antonio Nunes


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38525">
From: 


'Fred Yargui' <fredericyargui@w...> 
Date:  Tue Jan 28, 2003  9:13
pm
Subject:  RE : [tadream] Again, a little DwT pics reminder ;o)


> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Fred Yargui [mailto:fredericyargui@w...] 
> Envoyé : jeudi 9 janvier 2003 20:51
> À : Tangerine Dream Mailing List; tangerinedream@yahoogroups.com
> Objet : [tadream] Just a little DwT pics reminder
> 
> 
> Hello, Dreamers, 
> 
> I send again the link for the DwT III picture art by Yannick Edom : 
> 
> Please go to http://perso.wanadoo.fr/fred_y
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Fred
> 
> 
> 
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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38526">
From: 


Marion Horrod <marion@h...> 
Date:  Tue Jan 28, 2003  9:34
pm
Subject:  Testeronally challenged?


But having to fight over anything is
not for me.
(Do I lack testosterone?)
John Vertical


Well, not being an endocrinologist I can't say, but you sound like a 
sensible person to me (but then, by definition, I lack testosterone!). In 
my teens I did gymnastics, swimming and yoga for choice, although I did 
play rounders (girly baseball) for the school.

Until I got CFT and had to give up most physical activities in my mid-40's, 
hill walking Tai Chi and dry-land swimming were my main physical 
recreations. (And I still haven't given the third one up.) Although I do 
occasionally watch and enjoy a game of rugby (it's my welsh heritage) or an 
athletics meeting.

LnH

Marion

ps Yes, I wear glasses.


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38527">
From: 


Gustavo Jobim <gustavojobim@s...> 
Date:  Tue Jan 28, 2003  10:49
pm
Subject:  OT Re: [tadream] Re: Tubular 30th Anniv


Glynn Naughton said:
>(...) I rarely play it because it's surely one of the most 
>incompetently-played albums of all time--a farrago of bum notes, 
>out-of-time playing, out-of-tune instruments, etc. (...)

Hey, the guy was around 19 years old when he recorded it and side 1 was 
recorded in a hurry in ONE week... I think it's a tremendous effort. One of 
his best works ever.

gj np: acidentes accidentals (an MD recorded at one go at dec.1st,2001)

Gustavo Jobim
gustavojobim@s...


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38528">
From: 


Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Wed Jan 29, 2003  1:24
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] OT: E-music in Hitchhiker's Guide Radio show


Well, for the Amercian 2 album release that was mostly
Jean Michel Jarre and for the offical release was
music by the B.B.C. Radiophonic workshop. The Jarre
music was from 'Oxygene' 'Magnetic Fields' etc. 
There are several incarnations for the American
release. My favorite is the two album release. It
has got better music on it.

Wade
--- 'Owens, James' <james.owens@m...> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I just finished listening to 'The Hitchhiker's Guide
> to the Galaxy' radio
> show, and I noticed several familiar tunes through
> some of the episodes,
> especially when 'The Book' is talking. I distictly
> heard a couple sections
> of Oxygene, but I also heard some VERY familiar
> sounding pieces that I
> couldn't place. (No TD AFAIK). The title song is
> 'Journey of the Sorceror'
> by The Eagles, one of their rare all-instrumental
> tracks.
> 
> Does anyone happen to know of a list of 'incidental'
> music that was used for
> these shows?
> 
> James
> 
> 
> 
>
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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38529">
From: 


'Jim Moore' <moxica@a...> 
Date:  Wed Jan 29, 2003  2:41
am
Subject:  RE: [tadream] TD and sports


-----Original Message-----
From: Whiteley, Steve [mailto:steve.whiteley@s...] 

>There is an energized but quiet state of mind that helps me in sports,
TD helped me find that space. I regularly use TD and other EM to help
put me into the quiet focused state, for work, fun and play.

I've heard some Dead Solid Perfect cuts played during some televised
golf tournaments...

- jim


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38530">
From: 


Falcon <falcon@r...> 
Date:  Wed Jan 29, 2003  4:40
am
Subject:  CD cover design


Hi,

can anyone please tell me, what software do you use to design the covers 
for the trees ?
I mean, how are you doing the layout ?
Maff, maybe you can help me with this. ;-)
Please contact me off-list.

Ramon


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38531">
From: 


'Yannick EDOM' <yannick.edom@s...> 
Date:  Wed Jan 29, 2003  7:16
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] CD cover design


Hi everyone

> can anyone please tell me, what software do you use to design the covers
> for the trees ?
> I mean, how are you doing the layout ?

About the Dreamwatchers's Tales serie i used the famous Photoshop for the
artworks.

I draw some faces and textures in greyscale and use photographs for the
background and use a scanner to include the pencil sketches in Photoshop.

Then i colorize the drawings and some backround photographs (all imported in
separate layers) and use some special options of transparancies and
incrustrations for the final effects.

Sometimes faces are blurred and 'morphed' to increase the strange feeling of
the scene.

If you look carefully you can see some faces melted into walls bricks.

It's a technique i like use and the final art is a kind os surrealistic
scene.

I will use this technique for the rerelease of 'ADN Crystall' LP and other
further works.

I received a mail from Gustavo Jobim who told me the DWT III art looks like
some Dave McKean Works.

For the other trees, maybe the artists concerned can answer.

Best Wishes

Yannick Edom
Mirage Créations
Champlain B7 A 101
47 Chemin de Pelleport
31500 TOULOUSE
FRANCE

e-mail : yannick.edom@s...


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38532">
From: 


'Carlos Oliveira' <caobe@n...> 
Date:  Tue Jan 28, 2003  9:51
pm
Subject:  [tadream] from trees to RS


Hi Gang...

Sorry, RS means Rolling Stones group...

My respects to all of you
Carlos Oliveira from Portugal
caobe@n...

'Time is only space between our memories.'
Henri Frédéric Amiel (1821-1881); Swiss poet and philosopher.


Heloo, Carlos and Dreamers,
Who is RS ? Robert Schroeder ?
Regards,

Fred


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38533">
From: 


'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Wed Jan 29, 2003  8:39
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] CD cover design


>Hi,
>
>can anyone please tell me, what software do you use to design the covers
>for the trees ?
>I mean, how are you doing the layout ?
>Maff, maybe you can help me with this. ;-)
>Please contact me off-list.
>
>Ramon


Oh, and do you need any track title suggestions for volumes 24, 26 or 17 (if 
that one is going to get any)? I still can think of some suggestions...

John Vertical

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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38534">
From: 


Marko Marin <rubyconist@y...> 
Date:  Wed Jan 29, 2003  8:44
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] CD cover design


--- John Vertical <johnvertical@h...> wrote:
> Oh, and do you need any track title suggestions for
> volumes 24, 26 or 17 (if 
> that one is going to get any)? I still can think of
> some suggestions...
> 
> John Vertical

Don't push your luck. (Just joking of course. ;-)

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'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Wed Jan 29, 2003  8:41
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Subject:  Re: OT Re: [tadream] Re: Tubular 30th Anniv


>Hey, the guy was around 19 years old when he recorded it and side 1 was
>recorded in a hurry in ONE week... I think it's a tremendous effort. One of
>his best works ever.


19 years, so what? Chris and Peter were both 18 during the recording of 
Zeit, and is there any mistakes? etc.

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From: 


Marko Marin <rubyconist@y...> 
Date:  Wed Jan 29, 2003  8:49
am
Subject:  OT [tadream] Re: Tubular 30th Anniv


--- John Vertical <johnvertical@h...> wrote:
> 19 years, so what? Chris and Peter were both 18
> during the recording of 
> Zeit, and is there any mistakes? etc.
> 
> John Vertical

I think that's a bit different situation. For
instance, Mike was a young man with huge mental
problems. Chris and Peter were... well, Chris and
Peter.

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From: 
'Matthew Stringer' <qube@f...> 
Date:  Wed Jan 29, 2003  9:01
am
Subject:  RE: OT [tadream] Re: Tubular 30th Anniv


Eh?

TB is a fantastically complex piece of music using thousands of
overdubs.

Zeit is a freeform abstract piece of ambient that was probably an edited
jam session.

Also TB was written when he was 17, I think he was 20 though when he
recorded it. And if it wasn't for this we might not have had the great
Virgin albums by TD.


-----Original Message-----
From: Marko Marin [mailto:rubyconist@y...] 
Sent: 29 January 2003 08:49
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: OT [tadream] Re: Tubular 30th Anniv


--- John Vertical <johnvertical@h...> wrote:
> 19 years, so what? Chris and Peter were both 18
> during the recording of 
> Zeit, and is there any mistakes? etc.
> 
> John Vertical

I think that's a bit different situation. For
instance, Mike was a young man with huge mental
problems. Chris and Peter were... well, Chris and
Peter.

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From: 


<heiko@o...> 
Date:  Wed Jan 29, 2003  9:34
am
Subject:  Made in Germany


Hello,

2 CD Sampler: MADE IN GERMANY (with TD Track - Phaedra (excerpt)) include on my
ebay auction:

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=29856&item=2503388927&rd=1

ends in 1day and 11 hours 
and starts with only US $ 2

Cheers
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From: 


Eric Williamson <erwill@s...> 
Date:  Wed Jan 29, 2003  10:36
am
Subject:  [tadream] Re: Tubular 30th Anniv


On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 02:41 AM, John Vertical wrote:
> 19 years, so what? Chris and Peter were both 18 during the recording of
> Zeit, and is there any mistakes? etc.

because of the textural nature of the music, more editing is possible. 
they wouldn't let you hear the mistakes at all if there were any.

also, that early stuff is 100% improv. there is no such thing as a 
mistake in improv, an improv is either 'good' or 'bad'.

OTOH, Tubular Bells is a composition. there are mistakes possible 
through imperfect execution of the composition. but ...

i love all of it ... i've never been distracted by any performance 
gaffes in Tubular Bells. i've enjoyed it every time i listened to it.

how many times have you heard Keith Emerson make a mistake on an album? 
i still love that, too.

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From: 


Totta <tomas.rydqvist@g...> 
Date:  Wed Jan 29, 2003  10:53
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] CD cover design


HI all

Where can i download these cover arts ???

T

John Vertical wrote:

>>Hi,
>>
>>can anyone please tell me, what software do you use to design the covers
>>for the trees ?
>>I mean, how are you doing the layout ?
>>Maff, maybe you can help me with this. ;-)
>>Please contact me off-list.
>>
>>Ramon
>>
>
>
>Oh, and do you need any track title suggestions for volumes 24, 26 or 17 (if 
>that one is going to get any)? I still can think of some suggestions...
>
>John Vertical
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From: 


'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Wed Jan 29, 2003  12:45
pm
Subject:  RE: OT [tadream] Re: Tubular 30th Anniv


>Eh?
>
>TB is a fantastically complex piece of music using thousands of
>overdubs.
>
>Zeit is a freeform abstract piece of ambient that was probably an edited
>jam session.
>
>Also TB was written when he was 17, I think he was 20 though when he
>recorded it. And if it wasn't for this we might not have had the great
>Virgin albums by TD.


Okay, I sent that message in a hurry and so it turned out stubid...
My original point was that being young when you make something big doesn't 
make that something great. So comparing Zeit and...
...
Um, let me try this again. Mike is not the first person in the world to 
produce anything good at the age of 20, and..
No, wait - what that point was, again?

Mmm. No, I was not trying to say that TB is bad - just that I don't think 
that being barely over 18 makes anything you do better. If we have equal 
good paintings by someone who's 12 and someone who's 40, does that mean that 
the painting by the 12-year-old is better? The 12-year-old may be more 
gifted, but the painting must not be judged on that basis. Something made by 
a famous artist should not be famous because the artist is famous...

Or was the notion aimed at Mike instead of TB? Then I'd agree. I think. I'm 
not sure if I like TB, but it's not bad, either. Um.

Maybe I shouldn't have gotten up at all today.

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From: 


tony.vandergaag@p... 
Date:  Wed Jan 29, 2003  2:10
pm
Subject:  RE: OT [tadream] Re: Tubular 30th Anniv


> Maybe I shouldn't have gotten up at all today.
> 
> John Vertical

now here's a nice 'joke' hidden somewhere won't you say...

tony/rotterdam

p.s.

i think TB is still a great album after all of these years,
infact i think it's time M.O. should come up with something
really new instead of trying to recycle something like TB every time.

Amarok has been as far as i'm concerned the only really good 'alternative'
for TB sofar.

tony/rotterdam 


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From: 


'billythefish01 <mudspanker@y...>' <mudspanker@y...> 
Date:  Wed Jan 29, 2003  2:27
pm
Subject:  OT - Dark Side of the Moon 30th Anniversary


According to Hi-fi Choice this month, there is a rumour that there 
will be a 30th anniversary SACD release of DSOTM released in 5.1 
surround. It will be re-mastered from the quadraphonic originals.

Anniversary date is early March.

So, with all these 30th anniversaries, I'm looking forward to 2004 / 
5 when classics such as Phaedra and Rubycon reach that grand old 
age...

BTF


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From: 


Kees Aerts / Groove Unlimited <kees@g...> 
Date:  Wed Jan 29, 2003  3:33
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] OT - Dark Side of the Moon 30th Anniversary


At 14:27 29-1-03 +0000, you wrote:
>According to Hi-fi Choice this month, there is a rumour that there
>will be a 30th anniversary SACD release of DSOTM released in 5.1
>surround. It will be re-mastered from the quadraphonic originals.
>
>Anniversary date is early March.

This 24 bit remaster is scheduled for March 24. On Toshiba Japan.


Best regards / Vriendelijke groeten,

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From: 


Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Wed Jan 29, 2003  3:33
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] OT - Dark Side of the Moon 30th Anniversary


Yep...you are correct sir and Alan Parson's was left
behind on the project. From what I heard everyone is
involved, but alas not Alan Parsons. Could it be
because he has been saying that he was the brains
behind the original project?

Wade
--- 'billythefish01 <mudspanker@y...>'
<mudspanker@y...> wrote:
> According to Hi-fi Choice this month, there is a
> rumour that there 
> will be a 30th anniversary SACD release of DSOTM
> released in 5.1 
> surround. It will be re-mastered from the
> quadraphonic originals.
> 
> Anniversary date is early March.
> 
> So, with all these 30th anniversaries, I'm looking
> forward to 2004 / 
> 5 when classics such as Phaedra and Rubycon reach
> that grand old 
> age...
> 
> BTF
> 
> 
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From: 


Paul Fellows <pfellows@c...> 
Date:  Wed Jan 29, 2003  4:04
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Where will the Feb 15th Pre-show be?


Hi all,

> the Jack Horner would be more suitable...

Still waiting anxiously for my ticket to arrive in the post, but will be
there (touch wood) :-) My wife is coming over too but won't be going to the
concert itself (she was at Shepherd's Bush '96 which was all too much for
her:-))

Hope that Heiko will be there to show us TT3 :-)

Paul Fellows


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From: 


'braddito <toby.braddick@u...>' <toby.braddick@u...> 
Date:  Wed Jan 29, 2003  4:05
pm
Subject:  Reminder to Martin at TDI


Martin, is it too early to ask if you have the merchandise list and 
price info for the Astoria show yet ? Just over two weeks to go and 
the excitement is starting to build !

Regards
Toby


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From: 


'tei waz' <teiwazbarana@h...> 
Date:  Wed Jan 29, 2003  5:05
pm
Subject:  TD (inferno) spotting/glastonbury fayre ???


Finally saw a copy of inferno in my local border's bookstore.

On another note:

Was TD featured on the original glastonbury fayre 3LP set? And if so,
what was the music?

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From: 


Marion Horrod <marion@h...> 
Date:  Wed Jan 29, 2003  5:10
pm
Subject:  Re: TD and Sports


'There is an energized but quiet state of mind that helps me in sports,
TD helped me find that space. I regularly use TD and other EM to help
put me into the quiet focused state, for work, fun and play.'

Now this I can identify with. About the only exercise I am capable of these 
days is a short walk around my local area. TD is great for keeping me 
going. In fact the fact that it's an opportunity to really listen to TD is 
often the only thing that gives me the get up and go to do it at all.

As for work, you can't beat non-vocal, sequencer heavy music for cutting 
code to!

LnH

Marion


'The glass is neither half full or half empty. It's twice the size it needs
to be ...' S. Blakemore


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From: 


Marion Horrod <marion@h...> 
Date:  Wed Jan 29, 2003  5:12
pm
Subject:  Re: CD cover design


--- John Vertical <johnvertical@h...> wrote:
> Oh, and do you need any track title suggestions for
> volumes 24, 26 or 17 (if
> that one is going to get any)? I still can think of
> some suggestions...
>
> John Vertical
>
>Don't push your luck.
>
>Regards,
>Marko Marin

Don't push your luck... hm, that's a good title!

LnH

Marion

'The glass is neither half full or half empty. It's twice the size it needs
to be ...' S. Blakemore


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From: 


Marion Horrod <marion@h...> 
Date:  Wed Jan 29, 2003  5:20
pm
Subject:  Re: TD & sports (100% OT)


Something Steve wrote made me go and find this snippet. It's from a quiz 
called 'how to tell if you're an american' - I leave you to guess the 
'right' answer.

You and your mates decide to have a game of football in the park.What do
you need to take?

(a) A ball

(b) A ball and 2 coats

(c) A ball 50 crash helmets, 4 tons of body armour, 20 cheerleaders, a
marching sousaphone band with a grand piano on a trolley, and a team of
orthopaedic surgeons specialising in spinal
injuries.

LnH

Marion

'The glass is neither half full or half empty. It's twice the size it needs
to be ...' S. Blakemore


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<MESSAGE index="38552">
From: 


Jorge Figueiredo <jorgefig@e...> 
Date:  Wed Jan 29, 2003  5:27
pm
Subject:  A thief with good taste


Hello all,

My old car was stolen 3 weeks ago and the police found it today. There 
are only two things missing: the gas in the deposit and a tape I had on 
the player. It was the Dominion live concert from the old tape trees.

Have I made another TD fan!? :-)

Jorge Figueiredo

((> Pickford & Nagle - Ramayana <))


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From: 


Chris Richards <kohntarkosz@y...> 
Date:  Wed Jan 29, 2003  5:31
pm
Subject:  Re: Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


<<I just finished listening to 'The Hitchhiker's 
Guide to the Galaxy' radio show, and I noticed
several familiar tunes through some of the
episodes, especially when 'The Book' is talking. 
I distictly heard a couple sections of Oxygene,
but I also heard some VERY familiar sounding
pieces that I couldn't place. (No TD AFAIK). 
The title song is 'Journey of the Sorceror'
by The Eagles, one of their rare all-instrumental

tracks.>>

Yeah, Journey Of The Sorcerer was chosen because
Douglas Adams reportedly wanted a song with a
banjo in it, apparently because he felt it would
lend an 'on the road' feel. I think they used
their own recording of it, they didn't actually
use The Eagles track. 

As for the incidental music, I have the book that
was put out in the mid 80's of the radio scripts,
which lists all the incidental music. If memory
serves, they used some Brian Eno stuff,
specifically Over Fire Island. I believe they
also used a track from Fripp & Eno's Evening
Star. I think they also used something off Terry
Riley's A Rainbow In Curved Air. After that it
becomse hazy, as I haven't actually read the book
in something like 10 years. 

Of course, originally, there was a big in the
radio show, when they first arrive on Magrathea,
where Marvin The Paranoid Android starts playing
the intro to Shine On You Crazy Diamond, to which
I think Arthur Dent responds, 'Hey, did you know
your robot can hum just like Pink Floyd?'. The
story I heard was after the initial broadcast,
Pink Floyd's lawyers saw it to that the whole
thing be removed from future broadcasts.

And the music heard in the disco scene (when
Zaphod is being taken to the Total Reality
Perspective Vortex) was Stayin Alive by The Bee
Gees, with one beat cut out every other bar, then
flipped over and played backwards (that's what it
says in the book, anyway). 

I think when they did the second series, they
stuck to using original in house produced music.
I think this had something to do with a change in
producers, and the producer who took over for the
second series prefered to do his own music, as
opposed to lifting stuff off other people's
records. 

Reportedly, one of the reasons they did a
specially recorded version for the albums was
because it would have been too much of a hassle
to work out the publishing licenses for all the
music used throughout the first series. 

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'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Wed Jan 29, 2003  5:41
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


Good job Chris.
I was listening to it a few weeks ago on NPR (radio). I think you covered it
pretty well.
For those who never heard it...
If you could get a copy of the whole show, it is worth having. If you never
heard of this, you might be missing something.

Besides, those great clips of music they used worked pretty darn good in the
show. They are classics.

Dale

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Chris Richards' <kohntarkosz@y...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:31 AM
Subject: [tadream] Re: Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


> <<I just finished listening to 'The Hitchhiker's
> Guide to the Galaxy' radio show, and I noticed
> several familiar tunes through some of the
> episodes, especially when 'The Book' is talking.
> I distictly heard a couple sections of Oxygene,
> but I also heard some VERY familiar sounding
> pieces that I couldn't place. (No TD AFAIK).
> The title song is 'Journey of the Sorceror'
> by The Eagles, one of their rare all-instrumental
>
> tracks.>>
>
> Yeah, Journey Of The Sorcerer was chosen because
> Douglas Adams reportedly wanted a song with a
> banjo in it, apparently because he felt it would


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From: 


<alysoun@c...> 
Date:  Wed Jan 29, 2003  5:45
pm
Subject:  Re: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


The radio show, for your info, is now available on CD -- I had my old copies of
the cherished tapes which I was afraid to play a lot.

So now I have both.
Interesting to know the bits of music that never went through.

The radio broadcasts I remember from when I was a kid on public radio and they
far outrank the BBC film of it.
The creatures were always better left to the imagination, you know!!

We'll see if the movie that may or may not be in the planning stages ever comes
out!!

Thanks Chris for those bits of musical info!!

Allison

> 
> From: 'Administrator' <admin@k...>
> Date: 2003/01/29 Wed PM 12:41:21 EST
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
> Good job Chris.
> I was listening to it a few weeks ago on NPR (radio). I think you covered it
> pretty well.
> For those who never heard it...
> If you could get a copy of the whole show, it is worth having. If you never
> heard of this, you might be missing something.
> 
> Besides, those great clips of music they used worked pretty darn good in the
> show. They are classics.
> 
> Dale
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Chris Richards' <kohntarkosz@y...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:31 AM
> Subject: [tadream] Re: Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
> 
> 
> > <<I just finished listening to 'The Hitchhiker's
> > Guide to the Galaxy' radio show, and I noticed
> > several familiar tunes through some of the
> > episodes, especially when 'The Book' is talking.
> > I distictly heard a couple sections of Oxygene,
> > but I also heard some VERY familiar sounding
> > pieces that I couldn't place. (No TD AFAIK).
> > The title song is 'Journey of the Sorceror'
> > by The Eagles, one of their rare all-instrumental
> >
> > tracks.>>
> >
> > Yeah, Journey Of The Sorcerer was chosen because
> > Douglas Adams reportedly wanted a song with a
> > banjo in it, apparently because he felt it would
> 
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From: 


'tei waz' <teiwazbarana@h...> 
Date:  Wed Jan 29, 2003  5:57
pm
Subject:  re glastonbury fayre


OK, the answer is 'no' to my question about TD and the glastonbury fayre 3 
LP set....

--T

np Gong--glastonbury fayre 1971 (or wherever they were at the time)


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From: 


'Owens, James' <james.owens@m...> 
Date:  Wed Jan 29, 2003  7:06
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Re: Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


Thanks for the info Chris.

One thing, though: The theme music on my version is IDENTICAL to the track
from the Eagles album 'One of These Nights'. It's chopped and edited in odd
ways, but it is the same.

James

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Richards [mailto:kohntarkosz@y...]

Yeah, Journey Of The Sorcerer was chosen because
Douglas Adams reportedly wanted a song with a
banjo in it, apparently because he felt it would
lend an 'on the road' feel. I think they used
their own recording of it, they didn't actually
use The Eagles track. 

	
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From: 


Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Wed Jan 29, 2003  7:27
pm
Subject:  Re: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


There is of course the box set that has been around
for years and now I hear that there is a remastered
version. I think you can gleam some information at
www.amazon.co.uk.

Wade
--- alysoun@c... wrote:
> The radio show, for your info, is now available on
> CD -- I had my old copies of the cherished tapes
> which I was afraid to play a lot.
> 
> So now I have both.
> Interesting to know the bits of music that never
> went through.
> 
> The radio broadcasts I remember from when I was a
> kid on public radio and they far outrank the BBC
> film of it.
> The creatures were always better left to the
> imagination, you know!!
> 
> We'll see if the movie that may or may not be in the
> planning stages ever comes out!!
> 
> Thanks Chris for those bits of musical info!!
> 
> Allison
> 
> > 
> > From: 'Administrator' <admin@k...>
> > Date: 2003/01/29 Wed PM 12:41:21 EST
> > To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhiker's Guide To
> The Galaxy
> > 
> > Good job Chris.
> > I was listening to it a few weeks ago on NPR
> (radio). I think you covered it
> > pretty well.
> > For those who never heard it...
> > If you could get a copy of the whole show, it is
> worth having. If you never
> > heard of this, you might be missing something.
> > 
> > Besides, those great clips of music they used
> worked pretty darn good in the
> > show. They are classics.
> > 
> > Dale
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: 'Chris Richards' <kohntarkosz@y...>
> > To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:31 AM
> > Subject: [tadream] Re: Hitchhiker's Guide To The
> Galaxy
> > 
> > 
> > > <<I just finished listening to 'The Hitchhiker's
> > > Guide to the Galaxy' radio show, and I noticed
> > > several familiar tunes through some of the
> > > episodes, especially when 'The Book' is talking.
> > > I distictly heard a couple sections of Oxygene,
> > > but I also heard some VERY familiar sounding
> > > pieces that I couldn't place. (No TD AFAIK).
> > > The title song is 'Journey of the Sorceror'
> > > by The Eagles, one of their rare
> all-instrumental
> > >
> > > tracks.>>
> > >
> > > Yeah, Journey Of The Sorcerer was chosen because
> > > Douglas Adams reportedly wanted a song with a
> > > banjo in it, apparently because he felt it would
> > 
> > 
> >
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From: 


'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...> 
Date:  Wed Jan 29, 2003  7:38
pm
Subject:  TT3 Covers available for download now!


The covers for Tangerine Tree #3 are now finished and available for downloading
here:

http://tdtree.blackaxis.co.uk/tt3.htm

The covers were designed by Steve Craftman, Gustavo Jobim, Marko Marin and
myself. A big thanks to Steve, Gus and Marko for contributing some fantastic
work.

On the site you'll find the covers for all ten volumes that make up TT3 in ten
seperate zip files, or alternatively you can download everything in a single
large zip file. Each cover graphic is presented as a JPEG image at 300dpi. Much
more artwork went into the TT3 covers this time, so the file sizes are a little
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You can also hear a few short snippets of TT3 on the site by clicking the 'mp3
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A quick note before you all fire up your printers; after the weekend you'll also
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From: 


'maggior <maggior@m...>' <maggior@m...> 
Date:  Wed Jan 29, 2003  9:34
pm
Subject:  Re: TT3 Covers available for download now!


Wow! These covers are fantastic - you guys outdid yourselves this 
time. I love what you guys did with the Palast der Republik cover. 
The transparent ice mountains on one of the others is mind blowing. 
Really cool.

With the artwork all set, does anybody know when the tree structure 
will be announced? As I recall, the latest was early Feb. that we 
could expect distribution of the tree to start. I'm sure others are 
itchin' to get their hands on these discs too :-).

Thanks,
Rich Maggio


--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...> 
wrote:
> The covers for Tangerine Tree #3 are now finished and available for 
downloading
> here:
> 
> http://tdtree.blackaxis.co.uk/tt3.htm
> 
> The covers were designed by Steve Craftman, Gustavo Jobim, Marko 
Marin and
> myself. A big thanks to Steve, Gus and Marko for contributing some 
fantastic
> work.
> 
> On the site you'll find the covers for all ten volumes that make up 
TT3 in ten
> seperate zip files, or alternatively you can download everything in 
a single
> large zip file. Each cover graphic is presented as a JPEG image at 
300dpi. Much
> more artwork went into the TT3 covers this time, so the file sizes 
are a little
> larger. Those receiving the tree in SHN format will find the covers 
included on
> their discs.
> 
> You can also hear a few short snippets of TT3 on the site by 
clicking the 'mp3
> sample' links.
> 
> A quick note before you all fire up your printers; after the 
weekend you'll also
> be able to download liner booklets for TT3. The liners will contain 
tourbook
> scans, pictures and text, and will be designed in such a way that 
you'll be able
> to print on the reverse side of the front covers (if you want to) 
for a
> professional look. So if you plan to print off the liners, you may 
want to hold
> on until after the weekend so you can print the whole lot together. 
I'll also be
> adding a TT3 box wrapper shortly as well.
> 
> Comments welcome. Enjoy!
> 
> 
> Maff


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From: 


'Debra Wilson' <the_singing_goat@a...> 
Date:  Wed Jan 29, 2003  10:29
pm
Subject:  RE: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


All I know is both reading and listening to the radio show, I couldn't stop
laughing! Too great! Wish there was more good stuff like that on the radio
now!

Debra Wilson
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-----Original Message-----
From: alysoun@c... [mailto:alysoun@c...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:45 AM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy


The radio show, for your info, is now available on CD -- I had my old copies
of the cherished tapes which I was afraid to play a lot.

So now I have both.
Interesting to know the bits of music that never went through.

The radio broadcasts I remember from when I was a kid on public radio and
they far outrank the BBC film of it.
The creatures were always better left to the imagination, you know!!

We'll see if the movie that may or may not be in the planning stages ever
comes out!!

Thanks Chris for those bits of musical info!!

Allison

>
> From: 'Administrator' <admin@k...>
> Date: 2003/01/29 Wed PM 12:41:21 EST
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>
> Good job Chris.
> I was listening to it a few weeks ago on NPR (radio). I think you covered
it
> pretty well.
> For those who never heard it...
> If you could get a copy of the whole show, it is worth having. If you
never
> heard of this, you might be missing something.
>
> Besides, those great clips of music they used worked pretty darn good in
the
> show. They are classics.
>
> Dale
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Chris Richards' <kohntarkosz@y...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 9:31 AM
> Subject: [tadream] Re: Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy
>
>
> > <<I just finished listening to 'The Hitchhiker's
> > Guide to the Galaxy' radio show, and I noticed
> > several familiar tunes through some of the
> > episodes, especially when 'The Book' is talking.
> > I distictly heard a couple sections of Oxygene,
> > but I also heard some VERY familiar sounding
> > pieces that I couldn't place. (No TD AFAIK).
> > The title song is 'Journey of the Sorceror'
> > by The Eagles, one of their rare all-instrumental
> >
> > tracks.>>
> >
> > Yeah, Journey Of The Sorcerer was chosen because
> > Douglas Adams reportedly wanted a song with a
> > banjo in it, apparently because he felt it would
>
>
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From: 


'John Marchington' <johnm@p...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  1:42
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] OT - Dark Side of the Moon 30th Anniversary


I've just preordered the SACD from Acoustic Sounds. It's due out on 3 March
and the catalogue number is CEMI 5821362 SA

----- Original Message ----- 
From: 'Wade Gordon' <mindvoyager1@y...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 4:33 AM
Subject: Re: [tadream] OT - Dark Side of the Moon 30th Anniversary


> Yep...you are correct sir and Alan Parson's was left
> behind on the project. From what I heard everyone is
> involved, but alas not Alan Parsons. Could it be
> because he has been saying that he was the brains
> behind the original project?
>
> Wade
> --- 'billythefish01 <mudspanker@y...>'
> <mudspanker@y...> wrote:
> > According to Hi-fi Choice this month, there is a
> > rumour that there
> > will be a 30th anniversary SACD release of DSOTM
> > released in 5.1
> > surround. It will be re-mastered from the
> > quadraphonic originals.
> >
> > Anniversary date is early March.
> >
> > So, with all these 30th anniversaries, I'm looking
> > forward to 2004 /
> > 5 when classics such as Phaedra and Rubycon reach
> > that grand old
> > age...
> >
> > BTF
> >
> >
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From: 


'Adele Outland' <outlanda60@h...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  2:59
am
Subject:  RE: OT [tadream] Re: Tubular & TD


Excuse me, I don't understand the reference. What does MO & TB have to do 
with TD & Virgin? Just curious. Thanks. 8-Dell


As time slips into memory, memory fades into dreams.


>From: 'Matthew Stringer' <qube@f...>
>Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 09:01:54 -0000


And if it wasn't for this we might not have had the great
>Virgin albums by TD.


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From: 


Chris Richards <kohntarkosz@y...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  6:33
am
Subject:  Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy


<<The radio broadcasts I remember from when I was
a kid on public radio and they far outrank the
BBC film of it. The creatures were always better
left to the imagination, you know!! >>

Read well, in his biography, Don't Panic, Douglas
Adams pretty much admits the TV version of
Hitchhikers was a fiasco. There's a great quote
where he says something to the effect of 'There
were clashes between me and the director, and the
cast and the director, and the tea lady and the
director'. They had lots of trouble pulling off
things like Zaphod's two heads and three arms.
Douglas said the thing was that in a book or on
radio, you can throw something like that out, ya
know 'He has two heads' and never have to mention
it again. But on TV or in movies, whatever you
start off with how the character is supposed to
look, you actually have to do that through the
whole production. 

It was mentioned that they had trouble making
Zaphod's second head work, as it was always
staring off into space and not really working the
way it was supposed, so they decided that it must
be stoned, and that's why it seemed to be
'spacing out'. But even beyond that, the TV
version just was mediocre. 

Interesting trivia: Hotblack Desiato's bodyguard
in the TV version is played by David Prowse, the
man in the Darth Vader suit in the first three
Star Wars movies. 

The novels and the radio scripts book are
hilarious though. What's especially funny is
Douglas explaining some of the things that
happened or what inspired certain characters. For
instance, he talks about how the scene with the
whale and the flowers and Shooty and Bang Bang
(the two cops who corner Arthur, Ford, Zaphod,
and Trillian on Magrathea) were inspired by
watching American cop shows (I think he mentions
Starsky And Hutch and Cannon as the two specific
shows that were the inspiration). I also like
when he explains that he had them thrown out of
the airlock on the Vogon construction ship
because 'I wanted to see what would happen', then
realized that he had painted himself into a
corner because either they were gonna die (which
he mentions that he considered doing, and then
just letting the BBC play light music for the
rest of the run of the series) or he was gonna
have to think of how to get them out of the mess.


As for wehther or not they used the actual Eagles
recording of Journey Of The Sorcerer in the radio
show, I'm not positive (I don't think I've ever
actually heard the radio version), but I think
subsequent versions of Hitchhiker (ie records,
TV, etc) use a recording done specifically for
the purpose. 

I always loved the bit about the telepathic
aliens who could only prevent themselves from
knowing each other's sick and perverted thoughts
by attending a Disaster Area concert. 


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From: 


'Debra Wilson' <the_singing_goat@a...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  7:23
am
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy


Great post! Just gave this youngun' a little more info! lol 

Debra Wilson
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-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Richards
Subject: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy


Read well, in his biography, Don't Panic, Douglas
Adams pretty much admits the TV version of
Hitchhikers was a fiasco. There's a great quote
where he says something to the effect of 'There
were clashes between me and the director, and the
cast and the director, and the tea lady and the
director'. They had lots of trouble pulling off
things like Zaphod's two heads and three arms...


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From: 


'Glynn Naughton <glynn_naughton@h...>' <glynn_naughton@h...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  9:18
am
Subject:  OT [tadream] Re: Tubular & TD


--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Adele Outland' <outlanda60@h...> 
wrote:
> Excuse me, I don't understand the reference. What does MO & TB have 
to do 
> with TD & Virgin? Just curious. Thanks. 8-Dell

Because _TB_ was the first release on Virgin, and it was the release 
that essentially made the company. Although a lot of the credit 
should go to the main A&R bloke, Simon Draper, who had an amazing 
talent for sniffing out off-the-wall music that nevertheless did 
really well commercially. Same thing happened with TD, but on a 
smaller scale.

Glynn


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From: 


'Yannick EDOM' <yannick.edom@s...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  10:22
am
Subject:  Re: OT [tadream] Re: Tubular & TD


Hi

> wrote:
> > Excuse me, I don't understand the reference. What does MO & TB have
> to do
> > with TD & Virgin? Just curious. Thanks. 8-Dell
>
> Because _TB_ was the first release on Virgin, and it was the release
> that essentially made the company. Although a lot of the credit
> should go to the main A&R bloke, Simon Draper, who had an amazing
> talent for sniffing out off-the-wall music that nevertheless did
> really well commercially. Same thing happened with TD, but on a
> smaller scale.
>
> Glynn

There is also a story with Mike Oldfield and Edgar Froese.

The famous M. Oldfield single 'Don Alfonso' was produced by Edgar Froese for
the German release and sung by Roland Paulick who appeared on early TD
albums.


Yannick Edom
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From: 


Marko Marin <rubyconist@y...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  10:41
am
Subject:  OT [tadream] Re: Tubular & TD


--- Yannick EDOM <yannick.edom@s...> wrote:
> There is also a story with Mike Oldfield and Edgar
> Froese.
> 
> The famous M. Oldfield single 'Don Alfonso' was
> produced by Edgar Froese for
> the German release and sung by Roland Paulick who
> appeared on early TD
> albums.

Hasn't Edgar said that it's just a funny rumour from
the past?

Regards,
Marko Marin

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From: 


Dennis Nigbur <Dennis@m...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  10:55
am
Subject:  Looking forward to the big event


Hello all,

I've been quiet recently, haven't I? Still need to sign up for TT3 (I 
can't check whether I'm signed up as permanent because I seem to have 
been stripped of my Yahoo login when I abandoned my homepage 
project), still haven't even finished listening to TT2, but got my 
ticket for 15/2 in the post today - waheyy!

Shall we just settle for one of the local pubs as a pre-concert pad 
then? It'd be a shame if everyone dispersed around the area, after so 
much fun we had before and after the last Shepherd's Bush gig!
-- 
Dennis

	
</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38570">
From: 


tony.vandergaag@p... 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  11:07
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] OT - Dark Side of the Moon 30th Anniversary


Hi Wade,

Alan Parson is living in the USA nowadays, so view the 'project'
probably done completely in the UK guess it's also a 'financial
item' somehow/somewhere ??. Furthermore AP already did some very 
nice work on the 'Shine on' box version of DSOTM so it might also 
be that he's just not interested in re-working it again.

tony/rotterdam

Citeren Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...>:

> Yep...you are correct sir and Alan Parson's was left
> behind on the project. From what I heard everyone is
> involved, but alas not Alan Parsons. Could it be
> because he has been saying that he was the brains
> behind the original project?


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38571">
From: 


<strat95@b...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  11:10
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Digest Number 1664


> Because _TB_ was the first release on Virgin, and it was the release
> that essentially made the company. Although a lot of the credit
> should go to the main A&R bloke, Simon Draper, who had an amazing
> talent for sniffing out off-the-wall music that nevertheless did
> really well commercially. Same thing happened with TD, but on a
> smaller scale.
>
> Glynn


I always thought that TB and Phaedra came out about the same time. And that
the success of Virgin starting off was do to the fact that both recordings,
Tubular Bells AND Phaedra, were such huges hits individually. I always gave
The Dream as much credit for Virgin as Mike Oldfield.

Am I wrong???

Neal


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38572">
From: 


'Yannick EDOM' <yannick.edom@s...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  12:36
pm
Subject:  Re: OT [tadream] Re: Tubular & TD


> >
> > The famous M. Oldfield single 'Don Alfonso' was
> > produced by Edgar Froese for
> > the German release and sung by Roland Paulick who
> > appeared on early TD
> > albums.
>
> Hasn't Edgar said that it's just a funny rumour from
> the past?
>

I saw and had in my hand the german single 'Don Alfonso' with all credits.
'Produced by Edgar Froese'.

One of the Nightbirds guy in Toulouse owns it.

If it's a rumour it's terribly a tangible one.

Yannick Edom
Mirage Créations
Champlain B7 A 101
47 Chemin de Pelleport
31500 TOULOUSE
FRANCE

e-mail : yannick.edom@s...


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38573">
From: 


'David Wakefield' <yahoo@b...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  1:19
pm
Subject:  Concerts


Well after following some of your recommendations I have bought a few albums
by Craig Padilla, Free System Projekt and Radio Massacre International. I
bought
the last 2 from Synth Music Direct's web site. And whilst looking noticed
that they
run concerts. So I will hopefully be going to see either AirSculpture on
the 5th April
Radio Massacre International on the 26th April at the Planetarium of the
National 
Space Centre in Leicester. If you want more details have a look at their
webpage 
http://synthmusicdirect.com/.


Oh my poor credit card :o)

Later Dave W

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38574">
From: 


'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  4:16
pm
Subject:  Re: OT [tadream] Re: Tubular & TD


> > Excuse me, I don't understand the reference. What does MO & TB have
>to do
> > with TD & Virgin? Just curious. Thanks. 8-Dell
>
>Because _TB_ was the first release on Virgin, and it was the release
>that essentially made the company.
>
>Glynn


On the other hand, if there were no TB, Mr. Friedkin could have hired TD 
already for the Exorcist - which would have led to more fame.

John Vertical

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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38575">
From: 


'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  5:16
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] TT3 Covers available for download now!


>The covers for Tangerine Tree #3 are now finished and available for 
>downloading--
>
>Comments welcome. Enjoy!
>
>
>Maff


These look fabulous. Very colourful and representive (though IMHO some are 
sort of garish) - and the mp3 excerpts are a great idea!
Can't name a favourite, there's too many great ones...

John Vertical

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<MESSAGE index="38576">
From: 


'billythefish01 <mudspanker@y...>' <mudspanker@y...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  6:11
pm
Subject:  Re: TT3 Covers available for download now!


These are superb. Am waiting for the boss to go home before I hit 
print!!!!


--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
wrote:
> >The covers for Tangerine Tree #3 are now finished and available 
for 
> >downloading--
> >
> >Comments welcome. Enjoy!
> >
> >
> >Maff
> 
>(though IMHO some are 
> sort of garish)


Buy some smoked jewel cases to tone them down ;-)


> 
> John Vertical
> 
> _________________________________________________________________
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<MESSAGE index="38577">
From: 


'corporalcripp <rwoltanski@h...>' <rwoltanski@h...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  7:16
pm
Subject:  TT3 LEAF


Hi, When will I find out who my branch is?-Bob


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38578">
From: 


'Paul Dryden' <paulus.d@f...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  7:17
pm
Subject:  Re: OT [tadream] Re: Tubular & TD


Phaedra was the 3rd Virgin album, I think!!!
Paulus.d
----- Original Message -----
From: <glynn_naughton@h...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:18 AM
Subject: OT [tadream] Re: Tubular & TD


> --- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Adele Outland' <outlanda60@h...>
> wrote:
> > Excuse me, I don't understand the reference. What does MO & TB have
> to do
> > with TD & Virgin? Just curious. Thanks. 8-Dell
>
> Because _TB_ was the first release on Virgin, and it was the release
> that essentially made the company. Although a lot of the credit
> should go to the main A&R bloke, Simon Draper, who had an amazing
> talent for sniffing out off-the-wall music that nevertheless did
> really well commercially. Same thing happened with TD, but on a
> smaller scale.
>
> Glynn
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
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> ----------------------------------------------------_-
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> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
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>
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<MESSAGE index="38579">
From: 


'Paul Dryden' <paulus.d@f...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  7:46
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy


I loved Hitch Hikers, but then I like a lot of Sci-fi shows and films, such
as DR.WHO and The Prisoner.

The 2 record set of the Guide I have has The Eagles version theme on it.
As you said the TV version had its own recorded for it (Tim Souster did
it-who is he?)

Of course, Maff on this list is part of a great website at Tachyon TV
mentioned back a bit!
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Chris Richards' <kohntarkosz@y...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 6:33 AM
Subject: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy


> <<The radio broadcasts I remember from when I was
> a kid on public radio and they far outrank the
> BBC film of it. The creatures were always better
> left to the imagination, you know!! >>
>
> Read well, in his biography, Don't Panic, Douglas
> Adams pretty much admits the TV version of
> Hitchhikers was a fiasco. There's a great quote
> where he says something to the effect of 'There
> were clashes between me and the director, and the
> cast and the director, and the tea lady and the
> director'. They had lots of trouble pulling off
> things like Zaphod's two heads and three arms.
> Douglas said the thing was that in a book or on
> radio, you can throw something like that out, ya
> know 'He has two heads' and never have to mention
> it again. But on TV or in movies, whatever you
> start off with how the character is supposed to
> look, you actually have to do that through the
> whole production.
>
> It was mentioned that they had trouble making
> Zaphod's second head work, as it was always
> staring off into space and not really working the
> way it was supposed, so they decided that it must
> be stoned, and that's why it seemed to be
> 'spacing out'. But even beyond that, the TV
> version just was mediocre.
>
> Interesting trivia: Hotblack Desiato's bodyguard
> in the TV version is played by David Prowse, the
> man in the Darth Vader suit in the first three
> Star Wars movies.
>
> The novels and the radio scripts book are
> hilarious though. What's especially funny is
> Douglas explaining some of the things that
> happened or what inspired certain characters. For
> instance, he talks about how the scene with the
> whale and the flowers and Shooty and Bang Bang
> (the two cops who corner Arthur, Ford, Zaphod,
> and Trillian on Magrathea) were inspired by
> watching American cop shows (I think he mentions
> Starsky And Hutch and Cannon as the two specific
> shows that were the inspiration). I also like
> when he explains that he had them thrown out of
> the airlock on the Vogon construction ship
> because 'I wanted to see what would happen', then
> realized that he had painted himself into a
> corner because either they were gonna die (which
> he mentions that he considered doing, and then
> just letting the BBC play light music for the
> rest of the run of the series) or he was gonna
> have to think of how to get them out of the mess.
>
>
> As for wehther or not they used the actual Eagles
> recording of Journey Of The Sorcerer in the radio
> show, I'm not positive (I don't think I've ever
> actually heard the radio version), but I think
> subsequent versions of Hitchhiker (ie records,
> TV, etc) use a recording done specifically for
> the purpose.
>
> I always loved the bit about the telepathic
> aliens who could only prevent themselves from
> knowing each other's sick and perverted thoughts
> by attending a Disaster Area concert.
>
>
> =====
> May you never thirst!
> The Scuba Diver Presently Known As Chris
>
> 'What do you get when you give a yo-yo to a flock of flamingos?'-James
Earl Jones
>
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>
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<MESSAGE index="38580">
From: 


'Paul Dryden' <paulus.d@f...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  7:50
pm
Subject:  Off topic topics


Its refreshing for me to 'talk' to everybody on this list about other things as
well as TD.
Some list Iam a member of slap you down really quick when you go even slighty
off topic!
We members do have other likes and dislikes and it does help to build up a
cameradery (terrible spelling!!) with you all!!!!
Paulus.d


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<MESSAGE index="38581">
From: 


<alysoun@c...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  8:11
pm
Subject:  Re: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy


HItchhikers's has a web page off the BBC web site.

No one has posted it here yet, so I will:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/

Don't worry, like the earth, it is just mostly harmless

Regards,

Allison

> 
> From: 'Paul Dryden' <paulus.d@f...>
> Date: 2003/01/30 Thu PM 02:46:26 EST
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy
> 
> I loved Hitch Hikers, but then I like a lot of Sci-fi shows and films, such
> as DR.WHO and The Prisoner.
> 
> The 2 record set of the Guide I have has The Eagles version theme on it.
> As you said the TV version had its own recorded for it (Tim Souster did
> it-who is he?)
> 
> Of course, Maff on this list is part of a great website at Tachyon TV
> mentioned back a bit!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Chris Richards' <kohntarkosz@y...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 6:33 AM
> Subject: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy
> 
> 
> > <<The radio broadcasts I remember from when I was
> > a kid on public radio and they far outrank the
> > BBC film of it. The creatures were always better
> > left to the imagination, you know!! >>
> >
> > Read well, in his biography, Don't Panic, Douglas
> > Adams pretty much admits the TV version of
> > Hitchhikers was a fiasco. There's a great quote
> > where he says something to the effect of 'There
> > were clashes between me and the director, and the
> > cast and the director, and the tea lady and the
> > director'. They had lots of trouble pulling off
> > things like Zaphod's two heads and three arms.
> > Douglas said the thing was that in a book or on
> > radio, you can throw something like that out, ya
> > know 'He has two heads' and never have to mention
> > it again. But on TV or in movies, whatever you
> > start off with how the character is supposed to
> > look, you actually have to do that through the
> > whole production.
> >
> > It was mentioned that they had trouble making
> > Zaphod's second head work, as it was always
> > staring off into space and not really working the
> > way it was supposed, so they decided that it must
> > be stoned, and that's why it seemed to be
> > 'spacing out'. But even beyond that, the TV
> > version just was mediocre.
> >
> > Interesting trivia: Hotblack Desiato's bodyguard
> > in the TV version is played by David Prowse, the
> > man in the Darth Vader suit in the first three
> > Star Wars movies.
> >
> > The novels and the radio scripts book are
> > hilarious though. What's especially funny is
> > Douglas explaining some of the things that
> > happened or what inspired certain characters. For
> > instance, he talks about how the scene with the
> > whale and the flowers and Shooty and Bang Bang
> > (the two cops who corner Arthur, Ford, Zaphod,
> > and Trillian on Magrathea) were inspired by
> > watching American cop shows (I think he mentions
> > Starsky And Hutch and Cannon as the two specific
> > shows that were the inspiration). I also like
> > when he explains that he had them thrown out of
> > the airlock on the Vogon construction ship
> > because 'I wanted to see what would happen', then
> > realized that he had painted himself into a
> > corner because either they were gonna die (which
> > he mentions that he considered doing, and then
> > just letting the BBC play light music for the
> > rest of the run of the series) or he was gonna
> > have to think of how to get them out of the mess.
> >
> >
> > As for wehther or not they used the actual Eagles
> > recording of Journey Of The Sorcerer in the radio
> > show, I'm not positive (I don't think I've ever
> > actually heard the radio version), but I think
> > subsequent versions of Hitchhiker (ie records,
> > TV, etc) use a recording done specifically for
> > the purpose.
> >
> > I always loved the bit about the telepathic
> > aliens who could only prevent themselves from
> > knowing each other's sick and perverted thoughts
> > by attending a Disaster Area concert.
> >
> >
> > =====
> > May you never thirst!
> > The Scuba Diver Presently Known As Chris
> >
> > 'What do you get when you give a yo-yo to a flock of flamingos?'-James
> Earl Jones
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do you Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now.
> > http://mailplus.yahoo.com
> >
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> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> >
> > Tangerine Tree info at
> > http://www.tadream.net/tree
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
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> 
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> 
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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38582">
From: 


'Debra Wilson' <the_singing_goat@a...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  8:28
pm
Subject:  RE: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy


And then there aare dozens of fan site with quite a bit of info as well....
somewhere I've got the URL to download the game free.

Debra Wilson
Billy-Bob's Boers, Percentage Meat Goats in SoCal
http://home.att.net/~billybobsboers/index.html
AudioGalaxy, For All Your P2P Needs
http://home.att.net/~audiogalaxy/index.html


-----Original Message-----
From: alysoun@c... [mailto:alysoun@c...]
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 12:11 PM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy


HItchhikers's has a web page off the BBC web site.

No one has posted it here yet, so I will:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/

Don't worry, like the earth, it is just mostly harmless

Regards,

Allison

>
> From: 'Paul Dryden' <paulus.d@f...>
> Date: 2003/01/30 Thu PM 02:46:26 EST
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy
>
> I loved Hitch Hikers, but then I like a lot of Sci-fi shows and films,
such
> as DR.WHO and The Prisoner.
>
> The 2 record set of the Guide I have has The Eagles version theme on it.
> As you said the TV version had its own recorded for it (Tim Souster did
> it-who is he?)
>
> Of course, Maff on this list is part of a great website at Tachyon TV
> mentioned back a bit!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Chris Richards' <kohntarkosz@y...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 6:33 AM
> Subject: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy
>
>
> > <<The radio broadcasts I remember from when I was
> > a kid on public radio and they far outrank the
> > BBC film of it. The creatures were always better
> > left to the imagination, you know!! >>
> >
> > Read well, in his biography, Don't Panic, Douglas
> > Adams pretty much admits the TV version of
> > Hitchhikers was a fiasco. There's a great quote
> > where he says something to the effect of 'There
> > were clashes between me and the director, and the
> > cast and the director, and the tea lady and the
> > director'. They had lots of trouble pulling off
> > things like Zaphod's two heads and three arms.
> > Douglas said the thing was that in a book or on
> > radio, you can throw something like that out, ya
> > know 'He has two heads' and never have to mention
> > it again. But on TV or in movies, whatever you
> > start off with how the character is supposed to
> > look, you actually have to do that through the
> > whole production.
> >
> > It was mentioned that they had trouble making
> > Zaphod's second head work, as it was always
> > staring off into space and not really working the
> > way it was supposed, so they decided that it must
> > be stoned, and that's why it seemed to be
> > 'spacing out'. But even beyond that, the TV
> > version just was mediocre.
> >
> > Interesting trivia: Hotblack Desiato's bodyguard
> > in the TV version is played by David Prowse, the
> > man in the Darth Vader suit in the first three
> > Star Wars movies.
> >
> > The novels and the radio scripts book are
> > hilarious though. What's especially funny is
> > Douglas explaining some of the things that
> > happened or what inspired certain characters. For
> > instance, he talks about how the scene with the
> > whale and the flowers and Shooty and Bang Bang
> > (the two cops who corner Arthur, Ford, Zaphod,
> > and Trillian on Magrathea) were inspired by
> > watching American cop shows (I think he mentions
> > Starsky And Hutch and Cannon as the two specific
> > shows that were the inspiration). I also like
> > when he explains that he had them thrown out of
> > the airlock on the Vogon construction ship
> > because 'I wanted to see what would happen', then
> > realized that he had painted himself into a
> > corner because either they were gonna die (which
> > he mentions that he considered doing, and then
> > just letting the BBC play light music for the
> > rest of the run of the series) or he was gonna
> > have to think of how to get them out of the mess.
> >
> >
> > As for wehther or not they used the actual Eagles
> > recording of Journey Of The Sorcerer in the radio
> > show, I'm not positive (I don't think I've ever
> > actually heard the radio version), but I think
> > subsequent versions of Hitchhiker (ie records,
> > TV, etc) use a recording done specifically for
> > the purpose.
> >
> > I always loved the bit about the telepathic
> > aliens who could only prevent themselves from
> > knowing each other's sick and perverted thoughts
> > by attending a Disaster Area concert.
> >
> >
> > =====
> > May you never thirst!
> > The Scuba Diver Presently Known As Chris
> >
> > 'What do you get when you give a yo-yo to a flock of flamingos?'-James
> Earl Jones
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do you Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now.
> > http://mailplus.yahoo.com
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> >
> > Tangerine Tree info at
> > http://www.tadream.net/tree
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
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>
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From: 


Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  8:30
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy


Mark Ayers recorded a cover version of the theme
available on a Sci-Fi collection. In about two weeks
you will be able to hear it on my radio program.

Wade
--- Paul Dryden <paulus.d@f...> wrote:
> I loved Hitch Hikers, but then I like a lot of
> Sci-fi shows and films, such
> as DR.WHO and The Prisoner.
> 
> The 2 record set of the Guide I have has The Eagles
> version theme on it.
> As you said the TV version had its own recorded for
> it (Tim Souster did
> it-who is he?)
> 
> Of course, Maff on this list is part of a great
> website at Tachyon TV
> mentioned back a bit!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Chris Richards' <kohntarkosz@y...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 6:33 AM
> Subject: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The
> Galaxy
> 
> 
> > <<The radio broadcasts I remember from when I was
> > a kid on public radio and they far outrank the
> > BBC film of it. The creatures were always better
> > left to the imagination, you know!! >>
> >
> > Read well, in his biography, Don't Panic, Douglas
> > Adams pretty much admits the TV version of
> > Hitchhikers was a fiasco. There's a great quote
> > where he says something to the effect of 'There
> > were clashes between me and the director, and the
> > cast and the director, and the tea lady and the
> > director'. They had lots of trouble pulling off
> > things like Zaphod's two heads and three arms.
> > Douglas said the thing was that in a book or on
> > radio, you can throw something like that out, ya
> > know 'He has two heads' and never have to mention
> > it again. But on TV or in movies, whatever you
> > start off with how the character is supposed to
> > look, you actually have to do that through the
> > whole production.
> >
> > It was mentioned that they had trouble making
> > Zaphod's second head work, as it was always
> > staring off into space and not really working the
> > way it was supposed, so they decided that it must
> > be stoned, and that's why it seemed to be
> > 'spacing out'. But even beyond that, the TV
> > version just was mediocre.
> >
> > Interesting trivia: Hotblack Desiato's bodyguard
> > in the TV version is played by David Prowse, the
> > man in the Darth Vader suit in the first three
> > Star Wars movies.
> >
> > The novels and the radio scripts book are
> > hilarious though. What's especially funny is
> > Douglas explaining some of the things that
> > happened or what inspired certain characters. For
> > instance, he talks about how the scene with the
> > whale and the flowers and Shooty and Bang Bang
> > (the two cops who corner Arthur, Ford, Zaphod,
> > and Trillian on Magrathea) were inspired by
> > watching American cop shows (I think he mentions
> > Starsky And Hutch and Cannon as the two specific
> > shows that were the inspiration). I also like
> > when he explains that he had them thrown out of
> > the airlock on the Vogon construction ship
> > because 'I wanted to see what would happen', then
> > realized that he had painted himself into a
> > corner because either they were gonna die (which
> > he mentions that he considered doing, and then
> > just letting the BBC play light music for the
> > rest of the run of the series) or he was gonna
> > have to think of how to get them out of the mess.
> >
> >
> > As for wehther or not they used the actual Eagles
> > recording of Journey Of The Sorcerer in the radio
> > show, I'm not positive (I don't think I've ever
> > actually heard the radio version), but I think
> > subsequent versions of Hitchhiker (ie records,
> > TV, etc) use a recording done specifically for
> > the purpose.
> >
> > I always loved the bit about the telepathic
> > aliens who could only prevent themselves from
> > knowing each other's sick and perverted thoughts
> > by attending a Disaster Area concert.
> >
> >
> > =====
> > May you never thirst!
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Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  8:31
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Off topic topics


Doesn't everybody like Dr. Who?

Wade
--- Paul Dryden <paulus.d@f...> wrote:
> Its refreshing for me to 'talk' to everybody on this
> list about other things as well as TD.
> Some list Iam a member of slap you down really quick
> when you go even slighty off topic!
> We members do have other likes and dislikes and it
> does help to build up a cameradery (terrible
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From: 


Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  8:34
pm
Subject:  Re: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy


Since, Everyone is talking about the music from
'Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy' I have decided to
do a music program of this music and its direvitives.

Thanks for all the fish,

Wade
--- alysoun@c... wrote:
> HItchhikers's has a web page off the BBC web site.
> 
> No one has posted it here yet, so I will:
> 
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/
> 
> Don't worry, like the earth, it is just mostly
> harmless
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Allison
> 
> > 
> > From: 'Paul Dryden' <paulus.d@f...>
> > Date: 2003/01/30 Thu PM 02:46:26 EST
> > To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To
> The Galaxy
> > 
> > I loved Hitch Hikers, but then I like a lot of
> Sci-fi shows and films, such
> > as DR.WHO and The Prisoner.
> > 
> > The 2 record set of the Guide I have has The
> Eagles version theme on it.
> > As you said the TV version had its own recorded
> for it (Tim Souster did
> > it-who is he?)
> > 
> > Of course, Maff on this list is part of a great
> website at Tachyon TV
> > mentioned back a bit!
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: 'Chris Richards' <kohntarkosz@y...>
> > To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 6:33 AM
> > Subject: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The
> Galaxy
> > 
> > 
> > > <<The radio broadcasts I remember from when I
> was
> > > a kid on public radio and they far outrank the
> > > BBC film of it. The creatures were always better
> > > left to the imagination, you know!! >>
> > >
> > > Read well, in his biography, Don't Panic,
> Douglas
> > > Adams pretty much admits the TV version of
> > > Hitchhikers was a fiasco. There's a great quote
> > > where he says something to the effect of 'There
> > > were clashes between me and the director, and
> the
> > > cast and the director, and the tea lady and the
> > > director'. They had lots of trouble pulling off
> > > things like Zaphod's two heads and three arms.
> > > Douglas said the thing was that in a book or on
> > > radio, you can throw something like that out, ya
> > > know 'He has two heads' and never have to
> mention
> > > it again. But on TV or in movies, whatever you
> > > start off with how the character is supposed to
> > > look, you actually have to do that through the
> > > whole production.
> > >
> > > It was mentioned that they had trouble making
> > > Zaphod's second head work, as it was always
> > > staring off into space and not really working
> the
> > > way it was supposed, so they decided that it
> must
> > > be stoned, and that's why it seemed to be
> > > 'spacing out'. But even beyond that, the TV
> > > version just was mediocre.
> > >
> > > Interesting trivia: Hotblack Desiato's bodyguard
> > > in the TV version is played by David Prowse, the
> > > man in the Darth Vader suit in the first three
> > > Star Wars movies.
> > >
> > > The novels and the radio scripts book are
> > > hilarious though. What's especially funny is
> > > Douglas explaining some of the things that
> > > happened or what inspired certain characters.
> For
> > > instance, he talks about how the scene with the
> > > whale and the flowers and Shooty and Bang Bang
> > > (the two cops who corner Arthur, Ford, Zaphod,
> > > and Trillian on Magrathea) were inspired by
> > > watching American cop shows (I think he mentions
> > > Starsky And Hutch and Cannon as the two specific
> > > shows that were the inspiration). I also like
> > > when he explains that he had them thrown out of
> > > the airlock on the Vogon construction ship
> > > because 'I wanted to see what would happen',
> then
> > > realized that he had painted himself into a
> > > corner because either they were gonna die (which
> > > he mentions that he considered doing, and then
> > > just letting the BBC play light music for the
> > > rest of the run of the series) or he was gonna
> > > have to think of how to get them out of the
> mess.
> > >
> > >
> > > As for wehther or not they used the actual
> Eagles
> > > recording of Journey Of The Sorcerer in the
> radio
> > > show, I'm not positive (I don't think I've ever
> > > actually heard the radio version), but I think
> > > subsequent versions of Hitchhiker (ie records,
> > > TV, etc) use a recording done specifically for
> > > the purpose.
> > >
> > > I always loved the bit about the telepathic
> > > aliens who could only prevent themselves from
> > > knowing each other's sick and perverted thoughts
> > > by attending a Disaster Area concert.
> > >
> > >
> > > =====
> > > May you never thirst!
> > > The Scuba Diver Presently Known As Chris
> > >
> > > 'What do you get when you give a yo-yo to a
> flock of flamingos?'-James
> > Earl Jones
> > >
> > >
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From: 


Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  8:37
pm
Subject:  RE: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy


Great Scott...with all of this talk of Hitchiker's
Guide to the Galaxy...when are we getting around to
talking about Dr. Who. F.Y.I. Douglas Adams was a
script editor on Dr. Who. And the music ain't too
shaby either.

Wade
--- Debra Wilson <the_singing_goat@a...> wrote:
> And then there aare dozens of fan site with quite a
> bit of info as well....
> somewhere I've got the URL to download the game
> free.
> 
> Debra Wilson
> Billy-Bob's Boers, Percentage Meat Goats in SoCal
> http://home.att.net/~billybobsboers/index.html
> AudioGalaxy, For All Your P2P Needs
> http://home.att.net/~audiogalaxy/index.html
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: alysoun@c... [mailto:alysoun@c...]
> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 12:11 PM
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To
> The Galaxy
> 
> 
> HItchhikers's has a web page off the BBC web site.
> 
> No one has posted it here yet, so I will:
> 
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/h2g2/guide/
> 
> Don't worry, like the earth, it is just mostly
> harmless
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Allison
> 
> >
> > From: 'Paul Dryden' <paulus.d@f...>
> > Date: 2003/01/30 Thu PM 02:46:26 EST
> > To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To
> The Galaxy
> >
> > I loved Hitch Hikers, but then I like a lot of
> Sci-fi shows and films,
> such
> > as DR.WHO and The Prisoner.
> >
> > The 2 record set of the Guide I have has The
> Eagles version theme on it.
> > As you said the TV version had its own recorded
> for it (Tim Souster did
> > it-who is he?)
> >
> > Of course, Maff on this list is part of a great
> website at Tachyon TV
> > mentioned back a bit!
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: 'Chris Richards' <kohntarkosz@y...>
> > To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 6:33 AM
> > Subject: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The
> Galaxy
> >
> >
> > > <<The radio broadcasts I remember from when I
> was
> > > a kid on public radio and they far outrank the
> > > BBC film of it. The creatures were always better
> > > left to the imagination, you know!! >>
> > >
> > > Read well, in his biography, Don't Panic,
> Douglas
> > > Adams pretty much admits the TV version of
> > > Hitchhikers was a fiasco. There's a great quote
> > > where he says something to the effect of 'There
> > > were clashes between me and the director, and
> the
> > > cast and the director, and the tea lady and the
> > > director'. They had lots of trouble pulling off
> > > things like Zaphod's two heads and three arms.
> > > Douglas said the thing was that in a book or on
> > > radio, you can throw something like that out, ya
> > > know 'He has two heads' and never have to
> mention
> > > it again. But on TV or in movies, whatever you
> > > start off with how the character is supposed to
> > > look, you actually have to do that through the
> > > whole production.
> > >
> > > It was mentioned that they had trouble making
> > > Zaphod's second head work, as it was always
> > > staring off into space and not really working
> the
> > > way it was supposed, so they decided that it
> must
> > > be stoned, and that's why it seemed to be
> > > 'spacing out'. But even beyond that, the TV
> > > version just was mediocre.
> > >
> > > Interesting trivia: Hotblack Desiato's bodyguard
> > > in the TV version is played by David Prowse, the
> > > man in the Darth Vader suit in the first three
> > > Star Wars movies.
> > >
> > > The novels and the radio scripts book are
> > > hilarious though. What's especially funny is
> > > Douglas explaining some of the things that
> > > happened or what inspired certain characters.
> For
> > > instance, he talks about how the scene with the
> > > whale and the flowers and Shooty and Bang Bang
> > > (the two cops who corner Arthur, Ford, Zaphod,
> > > and Trillian on Magrathea) were inspired by
> > > watching American cop shows (I think he mentions
> > > Starsky And Hutch and Cannon as the two specific
> > > shows that were the inspiration). I also like
> > > when he explains that he had them thrown out of
> > > the airlock on the Vogon construction ship
> > > because 'I wanted to see what would happen',
> then
> > > realized that he had painted himself into a
> > > corner because either they were gonna die (which
> > > he mentions that he considered doing, and then
> > > just letting the BBC play light music for the
> > > rest of the run of the series) or he was gonna
> > > have to think of how to get them out of the
> mess.
> > >
> > >
> > > As for wehther or not they used the actual
> Eagles
> > > recording of Journey Of The Sorcerer in the
> radio
> > > show, I'm not positive (I don't think I've ever
> > > actually heard the radio version), but I think
> > > subsequent versions of Hitchhiker (ie records,
> > > TV, etc) use a recording done specifically for
> > > the purpose.
> > >
> > > I always loved the bit about the telepathic
> > > aliens who could only prevent themselves from
> > > knowing each other's sick and perverted thoughts
> > > by attending a Disaster Area concert.
> > >
> > >
> > > =====
> > > May you never thirst!
> > > The Scuba Diver Presently Known As Chris
> > >
> > > 'What do you get when you give a yo-yo to a
> flock of flamingos?'-James
> > Earl Jones
> > >
> > >
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From: 


'Debra Wilson' <the_singing_goat@a...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  8:46
pm
Subject:  RE: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy


Ok, someone fill me in! Who is.was Dr. Who? lol 
I wasn't even alive for most of this business, so keep that in mind! :-p

Debra Wilson
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-----Original Message-----
From: Wade Gordon [mailto:mindvoyager1@y...]
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 12:38 PM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy


Great Scott...with all of this talk of Hitchiker's
Guide to the Galaxy...when are we getting around to
talking about Dr. Who. F.Y.I. Douglas Adams was a
script editor on Dr. Who. And the music ain't too
shaby either.

Wade


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From: 


Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  8:55
pm
Subject:  RE: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy


What do you mean by 'Who is Dr. Who?' It is only the
longest running sci-fi series in the history of
televison. This is where Douglas Adams came from and
also a great deal of very interesting synthesizer
music compliments of the B.B.C. Radiophonic Workshop.

Wade
--- Debra Wilson <the_singing_goat@a...> wrote:
> Ok, someone fill me in! Who is.was Dr. Who? lol 
> I wasn't even alive for most of this business, so
> keep that in mind! :-p
> 
> Debra Wilson
> Billy-Bob's Boers, Percentage Meat Goats in SoCal
> http://home.att.net/~billybobsboers/index.html
> AudioGalaxy, For All Your P2P Needs
> http://home.att.net/~audiogalaxy/index.html
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> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wade Gordon [mailto:mindvoyager1@y...]
> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 12:38 PM
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To
> The Galaxy
> 
> 
> Great Scott...with all of this talk of Hitchiker's
> Guide to the Galaxy...when are we getting around to
> talking about Dr. Who. F.Y.I. Douglas Adams was a
> script editor on Dr. Who. And the music ain't too
> shaby either.
> 
> Wade
> 
> 
> 
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From: 


Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  8:57
pm
Subject:  RE: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy


One more thing...if you listen to 'Sound Explorer'
running right now...you may get a gander of what I
mean.

Wade
--- Debra Wilson <the_singing_goat@a...> wrote:
> Ok, someone fill me in! Who is.was Dr. Who? lol 
> I wasn't even alive for most of this business, so
> keep that in mind! :-p
> 
> Debra Wilson
> Billy-Bob's Boers, Percentage Meat Goats in SoCal
> http://home.att.net/~billybobsboers/index.html
> AudioGalaxy, For All Your P2P Needs
> http://home.att.net/~audiogalaxy/index.html
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wade Gordon [mailto:mindvoyager1@y...]
> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 12:38 PM
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To
> The Galaxy
> 
> 
> Great Scott...with all of this talk of Hitchiker's
> Guide to the Galaxy...when are we getting around to
> talking about Dr. Who. F.Y.I. Douglas Adams was a
> script editor on Dr. Who. And the music ain't too
> shaby either.
> 
> Wade
> 
> 
> 
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<MESSAGE index="38590">
From: 


Eric Williamson <erwill@s...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  8:59
pm
Subject:  nOT: Dr Who indeed, was H2G2 talk


Quoting Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...>:
> Guide to the Galaxy...when are we getting around to
> talking about Dr. Who. F.Y.I. Douglas Adams was a
> script editor on Dr. Who. And the music ain't too
> shaby either.

absolutely. if it weren't for that show i probably wouldn't like EM that much.

and even though the bassline was _stitched_together_ by Delia Derbyshire with 
1/4' tape copies of _one_note_ plucked on a wire strung across two nails, it 
still has a sequencey feel to it. but i tell you, there's no sequener and no 
synthesiser in the whole world that can sound like that theme.

everyone on this list should take the time to read this:
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Mark_Ayres/DWTheme.htm

it's an extensive examination of the Dr Who theme, which touches on all sorts 
of issues and history connected to Tangerine Dream. also, if you've ever wanted 
to hear music performed on the Synthi 100 check out the 'Delaware Version' of 
the theme ... it's done entirely on one Synthi 100 with it's digital sequencer.

OK. i'm done talking about the Dr Who theme.

---
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From: 


Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  9:03
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] nOT: Dr Who indeed, was H2G2 talk


Yes, the Delaware version is to die for...How about
the new stereo version that Mark just cobbled
together. He's a great chap that one.

Press on regardless,

Wade
--- Eric Williamson <erwill@s...> wrote:
> Quoting Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...>:
> > Guide to the Galaxy...when are we getting around
> to
> > talking about Dr. Who. F.Y.I. Douglas Adams was a
> > script editor on Dr. Who. And the music ain't too
> > shaby either.
> 
> absolutely. if it weren't for that show i probably
> wouldn't like EM that much.
> 
> and even though the bassline was _stitched_together_
> by Delia Derbyshire with 
> 1/4' tape copies of _one_note_ plucked on a wire
> strung across two nails, it 
> still has a sequencey feel to it. but i tell you,
> there's no sequener and no 
> synthesiser in the whole world that can sound like
> that theme.
> 
> everyone on this list should take the time to read
> this:
>
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Mark_Ayres/DWTheme.htm
> 
> it's an extensive examination of the Dr Who theme,
> which touches on all sorts 
> of issues and history connected to Tangerine Dream.
> also, if you've ever wanted 
> to hear music performed on the Synthi 100 check out
> the 'Delaware Version' of 
> the theme ... it's done entirely on one Synthi 100
> with it's digital sequencer.
> 
> OK. i'm done talking about the Dr Who theme.
> 
> ---
> Eric Williamson
> www.suitandtieguy.com
> 
> 
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<MESSAGE index="38592">
From: 


'Debra Wilson' <the_singing_goat@a...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  9:02
pm
Subject:  RE: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy


Ok, so the fact I very rarely watch TV, and sci-fi is way out of my choice
of viewing doesn't help me to know, huh? lol
HHGTTG is funny, kind of like how hokey but cool the Twilight Zone is... or
MST... that's good too, because it's hokey... hehe
Yes, I own Attack of the Killer Tomatoes. I know the theme song. I can even
sing it for you. That's my idea of a horror movie.. bring on the grade B!
:-D

Debra Wilson
Billy-Bob's Boers, Percentage Meat Goats in SoCal
http://home.att.net/~billybobsboers/index.html
AudioGalaxy, For All Your P2P Needs
http://home.att.net/~audiogalaxy/index.html


-----Original Message-----
From: Wade Gordon [mailto:mindvoyager1@y...]
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 12:56 PM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy


What do you mean by 'Who is Dr. Who?' It is only the
longest running sci-fi series in the history of
televison. This is where Douglas Adams came from and
also a great deal of very interesting synthesizer
music compliments of the B.B.C. Radiophonic Workshop.

Wade


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<MESSAGE index="38593">
From: 


'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  9:04
pm
Subject:  Re: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy


Dr. Who is a Time Lord.

he gets around....

a wild guess, about 152 videos (30 minute shows) maybe more?? a few movies
too
dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Debra Wilson' <the_singing_goat@a...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 12:46 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy


> Ok, someone fill me in! Who is.was Dr. Who? lol
> I wasn't even alive for most of this business, so keep that in mind! :-p
>
> Debra Wilson
> Billy-Bob's Boers, Percentage Meat Goats in SoCal
> http://home.att.net/~billybobsboers/index.html
> AudioGalaxy, For All Your P2P Needs
> http://home.att.net/~audiogalaxy/index.html
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wade Gordon [mailto:mindvoyager1@y...]
> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 12:38 PM
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy
>
>
> Great Scott...with all of this talk of Hitchiker's
> Guide to the Galaxy...when are we getting around to
> talking about Dr. Who. F.Y.I. Douglas Adams was a
> script editor on Dr. Who. And the music ain't too
> shaby either.
>
> Wade
>
>
>
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From: 


'Pergamon' <pergamon@g...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  9:08
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] nOT: Dr Who indeed, was H2G2 talk


My stereo is playing the theme from Dr. Who on extreme
volume.............=O)

This is the version by Orbital though..................but it still kicks
a$$

Has Dr. Who been released on DVD???????

Jan

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Eric Williamson' <erwill@s...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:59 PM
Subject: [tadream] nOT: Dr Who indeed, was H2G2 talk


> Quoting Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...>:
> > Guide to the Galaxy...when are we getting around to
> > talking about Dr. Who. F.Y.I. Douglas Adams was a
> > script editor on Dr. Who. And the music ain't too
> > shaby either.
>
> absolutely. if it weren't for that show i probably wouldn't like EM that
much.
>
> and even though the bassline was _stitched_together_ by Delia Derbyshire
with
> 1/4' tape copies of _one_note_ plucked on a wire strung across two nails,
it
> still has a sequencey feel to it. but i tell you, there's no sequener and
no
> synthesiser in the whole world that can sound like that theme.
>
> everyone on this list should take the time to read this:
> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Mark_Ayres/DWTheme.htm
>
> it's an extensive examination of the Dr Who theme, which touches on all
sorts
> of issues and history connected to Tangerine Dream. also, if you've ever
wanted
> to hear music performed on the Synthi 100 check out the 'Delaware Version'
of
> the theme ... it's done entirely on one Synthi 100 with it's digital
sequencer.
>
> OK. i'm done talking about the Dr Who theme.
>
> ---
> Eric Williamson
> www.suitandtieguy.com
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------
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>
>
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From: 


Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  9:09
pm
Subject:  Re: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy


You forgot to mention that he was President of
Galifrey and a member of the high council.

Wade
--- Administrator <admin@k...> wrote:
> Dr. Who is a Time Lord.
> 
> he gets around....
> 
> a wild guess, about 152 videos (30 minute shows)
> maybe more?? a few movies
> too
> dale
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Debra Wilson' <the_singing_goat@a...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 12:46 PM
> Subject: RE: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To
> The Galaxy
> 
> 
> > Ok, someone fill me in! Who is.was Dr. Who? lol
> > I wasn't even alive for most of this business, so
> keep that in mind! :-p
> >
> > Debra Wilson
> > Billy-Bob's Boers, Percentage Meat Goats in SoCal
> > http://home.att.net/~billybobsboers/index.html
> > AudioGalaxy, For All Your P2P Needs
> > http://home.att.net/~audiogalaxy/index.html
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Wade Gordon [mailto:mindvoyager1@y...]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 12:38 PM
> > To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide
> To The Galaxy
> >
> >
> > Great Scott...with all of this talk of Hitchiker's
> > Guide to the Galaxy...when are we getting around
> to
> > talking about Dr. Who. F.Y.I. Douglas Adams was a
> > script editor on Dr. Who. And the music ain't too
> > shaby either.
> >
> > Wade
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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<MESSAGE index="38596">
From: 


Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  9:12
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] nOT: Dr Who indeed, was H2G2 talk


Yikes!!!! That is one hell of a version. It
definately kicks butt. It beats the hell out of the
KLF one.

Wade
--- Pergamon <pergamon@g...> wrote:
> My stereo is playing the theme from Dr. Who on
> extreme
> volume.............=O)
> 
> This is the version by Orbital
> though..................but it still kicks
> a$$
> 
> Has Dr. Who been released on DVD???????
> 
> Jan
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Eric Williamson' <erwill@s...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:59 PM
> Subject: [tadream] nOT: Dr Who indeed, was H2G2 talk
> 
> 
> > Quoting Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...>:
> > > Guide to the Galaxy...when are we getting around
> to
> > > talking about Dr. Who. F.Y.I. Douglas Adams was
> a
> > > script editor on Dr. Who. And the music ain't
> too
> > > shaby either.
> >
> > absolutely. if it weren't for that show i probably
> wouldn't like EM that
> much.
> >
> > and even though the bassline was
> _stitched_together_ by Delia Derbyshire
> with
> > 1/4' tape copies of _one_note_ plucked on a wire
> strung across two nails,
> it
> > still has a sequencey feel to it. but i tell you,
> there's no sequener and
> no
> > synthesiser in the whole world that can sound like
> that theme.
> >
> > everyone on this list should take the time to read
> this:
> >
>
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Mark_Ayres/DWTheme.htm
> >
> > it's an extensive examination of the Dr Who theme,
> which touches on all
> sorts
> > of issues and history connected to Tangerine
> Dream. also, if you've ever
> wanted
> > to hear music performed on the Synthi 100 check
> out the 'Delaware Version'
> of
> > the theme ... it's done entirely on one Synthi 100
> with it's digital
> sequencer.
> >
> > OK. i'm done talking about the Dr Who theme.
> >
> > ---
> > Eric Williamson
> > www.suitandtieguy.com
> >
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------
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<MESSAGE index="38597">
From: 


'fozziebear' <fozziebear.beehive@b...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  8:47
pm
Subject:  Exorcist


John Vertical said 'On the other hand, if there were no TB, Mr. Friedkin
could have hired TD already for the Exorcist - which would have led to more
fame'

What a shame they didn't. I am trying to imagine what it might have been
like if they did. May be Firestarter is the nearest

But the film did get a lot of publicity, perhaps for the wrong types, by
religious types trying to ban it. May be that increased it's popularity.
Would TD have minded the reaction to the film? Then again the Germans
banned Shakespeare's sisters Stay because they thought it was raising the
dead!

What a great film. I remember Exorcist being scary for things you wouldn't
expect like the phone ringing at a million watts or a draw opening
violently.

If there's a remake I think TD should definitely be asked to do it.

David


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<MESSAGE index="38598">
From: 


'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  9:19
pm
Subject:  Re: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy


She is just a beginner.. Did not want to clutter her head with such
trivia...

;-)

dale

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Wade Gordon' <mindvoyager1@y...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy


> You forgot to mention that he was President of
> Galifrey and a member of the high council.
>
> Wade
> --- Administrator <admin@k...> wrote:
> > Dr. Who is a Time Lord.
> >
> > he gets around....
> >
> > a wild guess, about 152 videos (30 minute shows)
> > maybe more?? a few movies
> > too
> > dale
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: 'Debra Wilson' <the_singing_goat@a...>
> > To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 12:46 PM
> > Subject: RE: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To
> > The Galaxy
> >
> >
> > > Ok, someone fill me in! Who is.was Dr. Who? lol
> > > I wasn't even alive for most of this business, so
> > keep that in mind! :-p
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > > Great Scott...with all of this talk of Hitchiker's
> > > Guide to the Galaxy...when are we getting around
> > to
> > > talking about Dr. Who. F.Y.I. Douglas Adams was a
> > > script editor on Dr. Who. And the music ain't too
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'tei waz' <teiwazbarana@h...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  9:22
pm
Subject:  re: Dr. WHO


>What do you mean by 'Who is Dr. Who?' It is only the
longest running sci-fi series in the history of
televison.<

but far fewer episodes than Dark Shadows (roughly 700 vs 1225....)

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Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  9:28
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] re: Dr. WHO


Great Scott!!!! My humble forgiveness, but I may be
wrong but wasn't 'Dark Shadows' a daytime drama or to
be put another way, a soap opera. This means a
different program every afternoon doesn't it? Also, I
myself have watched a program or two of the marvelous
Dan Curtis Production. And after all he was the man
who kindly brought us 'Kolchak' the night stalker,
which transmorgrified into the X-Files a program in
which one of my treatments was transfered onto the
small screen.

Wade
--- tei waz <teiwazbarana@h...> wrote:
> >What do you mean by 'Who is Dr. Who?' It is only
> the
> longest running sci-fi series in the history of
> televison.<
> 
> but far fewer episodes than Dark Shadows (roughly
> 700 vs 1225....)
> 
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Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  9:29
pm
Subject:  Re: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy


What do you me trivia. There aren't that many Time
Lords out there...Are there?

Wade
--- Administrator <admin@k...> wrote:
> She is just a beginner.. Did not want to clutter her
> head with such
> trivia...
> 
> ;-)
> 
> dale
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Wade Gordon' <mindvoyager1@y...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:09 PM
> Subject: Re: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To
> The Galaxy
> 
> 
> > You forgot to mention that he was President of
> > Galifrey and a member of the high council.
> >
> > Wade
> > --- Administrator <admin@k...> wrote:
> > > Dr. Who is a Time Lord.
> > >
> > > he gets around....
> > >
> > > a wild guess, about 152 videos (30 minute shows)
> > > maybe more?? a few movies
> > > too
> > > dale
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: 'Debra Wilson' <the_singing_goat@a...>
> > > To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 12:46 PM
> > > Subject: RE: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide
> To
> > > The Galaxy
> > >
> > >
> > > > Ok, someone fill me in! Who is.was Dr. Who?
> lol
> > > > I wasn't even alive for most of this business,
> so
> > > keep that in mind! :-p
> > > >
> > > > Debra Wilson
> > > > Billy-Bob's Boers, Percentage Meat Goats in
> SoCal
> > > > http://home.att.net/~billybobsboers/index.html
> > > > AudioGalaxy, For All Your P2P Needs
> > > > http://home.att.net/~audiogalaxy/index.html
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> > > >
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> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Wade Gordon
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> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 12:38 PM
> > > > To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
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> Guide
> > > To The Galaxy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Great Scott...with all of this talk of
> Hitchiker's
> > > > Guide to the Galaxy...when are we getting
> around
> > > to
> > > > talking about Dr. Who. F.Y.I. Douglas Adams
> was a
> > > > script editor on Dr. Who. And the music ain't
> too
> > > > shaby either.
> > > >
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From: 


Falcon <falcon@r...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  9:35
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Off topic topics


At 09:31 PM 1/30/2003, you wrote:
>Doesn't everybody like Dr. Who?

Who's Dr. Who ? ;-)

Ramon 


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From: 


'Debra Wilson' <the_singing_goat@a...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  9:35
pm
Subject:  RE: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy


hehe Do I thank you for that Dale? 

Debra Wilson
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-----Original Message-----
From: Administrator [mailto:admin@k...]
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:20 PM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy


She is just a beginner.. Did not want to clutter her head with such
trivia...

;-)

dale


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From: 


'Debra Wilson' <the_singing_goat@a...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  9:36
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] nOT: Dr Who indeed, was H2G2 talk


I bet if I look I have both of those versions here somewhere...lol.

Debra Wilson
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-----Original Message-----
From: Wade Gordon [mailto:mindvoyager1@y...]
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:12 PM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tadream] nOT: Dr Who indeed, was H2G2 talk


Yikes!!!! That is one hell of a version. It
definately kicks butt. It beats the hell out of the
KLF one.


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'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  9:39
pm
Subject:  Re: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy


I think, that if one has seen every episode, has many on tape, seen every
movie, perhaps more than twice (20 * +). That might make you a Time Lord....
;-)
dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Wade Gordon' <mindvoyager1@y...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy


> What do you me trivia. There aren't that many Time
> Lords out there...Are there?
>
> Wade
> --- Administrator <admin@k...> wrote:
> > She is just a beginner.. Did not want to clutter her
> > head with such
> > trivia...
> >
> > ;-)
> >
> > dale
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: 'Wade Gordon' <mindvoyager1@y...>
> > To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:09 PM
> > Subject: Re: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To
> > The Galaxy
> >
> >
> > > You forgot to mention that he was President of
> > > Galifrey and a member of the high council.
> > >
> > > Wade
> > > --- Administrator <admin@k...> wrote:
> > > > Dr. Who is a Time Lord.
> > > >
> > > > he gets around....
> > > >
> > > > a wild guess, about 152 videos (30 minute shows)
> > > > maybe more?? a few movies
> > > > too
> > > > dale
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: 'Debra Wilson' <the_singing_goat@a...>
> > > > To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 12:46 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide
> > To
> > > > The Galaxy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Ok, someone fill me in! Who is.was Dr. Who?
> > lol
> > > > > I wasn't even alive for most of this business,
> > so
> > > > keep that in mind! :-p
> > > > >
> > > > > Debra Wilson
> > > > > Billy-Bob's Boers, Percentage Meat Goats in
> > SoCal
> > > > > http://home.att.net/~billybobsboers/index.html
> > > > > AudioGalaxy, For All Your P2P Needs
> > > > > http://home.att.net/~audiogalaxy/index.html
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Wade Gordon
> > [mailto:mindvoyager1@y...]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 12:38 PM
> > > > > To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Subject: RE: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers
> > Guide
> > > > To The Galaxy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Great Scott...with all of this talk of
> > Hitchiker's
> > > > > Guide to the Galaxy...when are we getting
> > around
> > > > to
> > > > > talking about Dr. Who. F.Y.I. Douglas Adams
> > was a
> > > > > script editor on Dr. Who. And the music ain't
> > too
> > > > > shaby either.
> > > > >
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From: 


ampmusic <info@a...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  9:45
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Digest Number 1665


> I always thought that TB and Phaedra came out about the same time. And that
> the success of Virgin starting off was do to the fact that both recordings,
> Tubular Bells AND Phaedra, were such huges hits individually. I always gave
> The Dream as much credit for Virgin as Mike Oldfield.
>
> Am I wrong???
>
> Neal

Virgin had a mail order record sales operation but not their own label. When
Mike Oldfield couldn't get any other label to
issue TBells, Virgin agreed to launch a label to do so.

Since it was a pretty immediate success, it's clear they cast around for other
instrumental or largely instrumental acts to
benefit from this. What they came up with was TD, (German), Gong
(Anglo-French), Clearlight (French) and so on.But the success
rate was patchy; TD got lots of publicity due to the unusual nature of the
music, but nothing like the sales of TBells, and
decreasing returns in terms of sales over the Virgin years; Gong probably the
same through launching a debut album, 'Camembert
Electric' at the price of a single, Clearlight had much less impact, and so on.

Most of these hung out at Virgin's manor recording studio where TBells was
done, so there was a lot of cross fertilisation.
Steve Hillage (Gong) replaced Mike Oldfield for a TV performance of TB. Tim
Blake (Gong) was on the first Clearlight album,
which was also worked on by David Vorhaus (whose White Noise 2 was issued by
Virgin). David Bedford had his own albums on
Virgin after working with Kevin Ayers and arranging the orchestral version of
Tubular Bells (and the sadly unreleased
Orchestral Hergest Ridge).

But in 1977 Virgin discovered punk :-)

Message: 7

> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 13:19:02 +0000 (GMT Standard Time)
> From: 'David Wakefield' <yahoo@b...>
> Subject: Concerts
>
> Well after following some of your recommendations I have bought a few albums
>
> by Craig Padilla, Free System Projekt and Radio Massacre International. I
> bought
>
> the last 2 from Synth Music Direct's web site. And whilst looking noticed
> that they run concerts.
>

A highlight of the Virgin years must have been the TD cathedral concerts. Those
who missed them (after all it was 27 years ago)
can get some of the feeling of them at the 'Music for the 3rd Millennium'
concerts in London throughout 2003. The March, April
(White Noise) and particularly the May shows would be particularly relevant -
see

http://www.ampmusic.demon.co.uk/ampconcerts.html

>
> > > From: 'Paul Dryden' <paulus.d@f...>
> > > Date: 2003/01/30 Thu PM 02:46:26 EST
> > > To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To
> > The Galaxy
> > >
> > > The 2 record set of the Guide I have has The
> > Eagles version theme on it.
> > > As you said the TV version had its own recorded
> > for it (Tim Souster did
> > > it-who is he?)

The sadly recently deceased Tim Souster was a rather academic electronic music
composer who worked at Keele University, built
an electronic music studio there with an EMS Polysynthi and other then state of
the art keyboards, and had an ensemble called
0dB (zero decibels) which toured playing his own tape and synthesizer
compositions, as well as pieces by Steve Reich and
others.

Despite being a bit on the musique concrete side, he was a phenomenal
MiniMoogist, as heard on his long composition using sound
and speech snippets from the Beach Boys. Aside from that, he was an expert chef
and appeared on the BBC 'Masterchef' show,
losing ignominiously due to his rather strange idea of presenting a dinner menu
all based on breakfast dishes (something like
every dish had cornflakes in it, or something like that).

He also created commercial and library music, hence his version of the
Hitchhiker's theme heard in some productions.

A sad loss indeed.

NEW SUBJECT FOR FRENZIED SPECULATION

Practically the only TD album which has never been compiled, remixed or
tangentized is 'Cyclone'.

It has been said that this is because Edgar doesn't like it.

What other explanation could be true?


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From: 
'Matthew Stringer' <qube@f...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  9:50
pm
Subject:  RE: OT [tadream] Re: Tubular & TD


There was a cool documentary on the BBC a few years back about the 25th
anniversary of Virgin Records.

It had load of things about Tubular Bells and Mike Oldfield but it also
mentioned that before Virgin made records it used to be a mail order
company specializing in alternate music, it mentioned Tangerine Dream as
an example.

It went on to cover TD's early Virgin albums and had some great black
and white studio footage with Peter B getting a bit giddy with the dry
ice machine!

I think that had there not been the buzz around Virgin in those early
days albums like Tubular Bells, Ommadawn, Phaedra and Rubycon probably
wouldn't have happened. With respect to TD Virgin would have given them
a healthy grant to buy equipment which without they wouldn't have
produced the sequencer/Moog sound.

Matthew


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Dryden [mailto:paulus.d@f...] 
Sent: 30 January 2003 19:17
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: OT [tadream] Re: Tubular & TD

Phaedra was the 3rd Virgin album, I think!!!
Paulus.d
----- Original Message -----
From: <glynn_naughton@h...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:18 AM
Subject: OT [tadream] Re: Tubular & TD


> --- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Adele Outland' <outlanda60@h...>
> wrote:
> > Excuse me, I don't understand the reference. What does MO & TB have
> to do
> > with TD & Virgin? Just curious. Thanks. 8-Dell
>
> Because _TB_ was the first release on Virgin, and it was the release
> that essentially made the company. Although a lot of the credit
> should go to the main A&R bloke, Simon Draper, who had an amazing
> talent for sniffing out off-the-wall music that nevertheless did
> really well commercially. Same thing happened with TD, but on a
> smaller scale.
>
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From: 


Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  9:56
pm
Subject:  RE: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy


Am I the butt of some sort of joke or did I have to be
there to understand that comment?
Wade
--- Debra Wilson <the_singing_goat@a...> wrote:
> hehe Do I thank you for that Dale? 
> 
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Administrator [mailto:admin@k...]
> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:20 PM
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To
> The Galaxy
> 
> 
> She is just a beginner.. Did not want to clutter her
> head with such
> trivia...
> 
> ;-)
> 
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> 
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From: 


Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  9:57
pm
Subject:  Re: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy


Yes, but can they change physical appearance when
wanting a pay raise?
--- Administrator <admin@k...> wrote:
> I think, that if one has seen every episode, has
> many on tape, seen every
> movie, perhaps more than twice (20 * +). That might
> make you a Time Lord....
> ;-)
> dale
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Wade Gordon' <mindvoyager1@y...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:29 PM
> Subject: Re: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To
> The Galaxy
> 
> 
> > What do you me trivia. There aren't that many
> Time
> > Lords out there...Are there?
> >
> > Wade
> > --- Administrator <admin@k...> wrote:
> > > She is just a beginner.. Did not want to clutter
> her
> > > head with such
> > > trivia...
> > >
> > > ;-)
> > >
> > > dale
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: 'Wade Gordon' <mindvoyager1@y...>
> > > To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:09 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide
> To
> > > The Galaxy
> > >
> > >
> > > > You forgot to mention that he was President of
> > > > Galifrey and a member of the high council.
> > > >
> > > > Wade
> > > > --- Administrator <admin@k...> wrote:
> > > > > Dr. Who is a Time Lord.
> > > > >
> > > > > he gets around....
> > > > >
> > > > > a wild guess, about 152 videos (30 minute
> shows)
> > > > > maybe more?? a few movies
> > > > > too
> > > > > dale
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: 'Debra Wilson'
> <the_singing_goat@a...>
> > > > > To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 12:46 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers
> Guide
> > > To
> > > > > The Galaxy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Ok, someone fill me in! Who is.was Dr.
> Who?
> > > lol
> > > > > > I wasn't even alive for most of this
> business,
> > > so
> > > > > keep that in mind! :-p
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Debra Wilson
> > > > > > Billy-Bob's Boers, Percentage Meat Goats
> in
> > > SoCal
> > > > > >
> http://home.att.net/~billybobsboers/index.html
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> > > > > >
> http://home.att.net/~audiogalaxy/index.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Wade Gordon
> > > [mailto:mindvoyager1@y...]
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 12:38 PM
> > > > > > To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Subject: RE: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers
> > > Guide
> > > > > To The Galaxy
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Great Scott...with all of this talk of
> > > Hitchiker's
> > > > > > Guide to the Galaxy...when are we getting
> > > around
> > > > > to
> > > > > > talking about Dr. Who. F.Y.I. Douglas
> Adams
> > > was a
> > > > > > script editor on Dr. Who. And the music
> ain't
> > > too
> > > > > > shaby either.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wade
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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From: 


Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  9:58
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] nOT: Dr Who indeed, was H2G2 talk


You begin to intrigue me.

Wade
--- Debra Wilson <the_singing_goat@a...> wrote:
> I bet if I look I have both of those versions here
> somewhere...lol.
> 
> Debra Wilson
> Billy-Bob's Boers, Percentage Meat Goats in SoCal
> http://home.att.net/~billybobsboers/index.html
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> http://home.att.net/~audiogalaxy/index.html
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wade Gordon [mailto:mindvoyager1@y...]
> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:12 PM
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [tadream] nOT: Dr Who indeed, was H2G2
> talk
> 
> 
> Yikes!!!! That is one hell of a version. It
> definately kicks butt. It beats the hell out of the
> KLF one.
> 
> 
> 
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<MESSAGE index="38611">
From: 


Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  10:03
pm
Subject:  


I must dash off right now...its been fun. I need to
answer a question which I have repeated many times and
X-Files conventions. Yes, I wrote the treatment for
one of fan's most favorite X-Files episode. It was a
two parter. The story in which is rather quite funny
and had to do with a series of phone calls between
myself and Chris Carter. Yes, he did conduct business
out of car. And, yes it was quite weird.

Wade

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From: 


'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  10:08
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] (unknown)


add one more to your list who works out of their car sometimes....

dale

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Wade Gordon' <mindvoyager1@y...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 2:03 PM
Subject: [tadream] (unknown)


> I must dash off right now...its been fun. I need to
> answer a question which I have repeated many times and
> X-Files conventions. Yes, I wrote the treatment for
> one of fan's most favorite X-Files episode. It was a
> two parter. The story in which is rather quite funny
> and had to do with a series of phone calls between
> myself and Chris Carter. Yes, he did conduct business
> out of car. And, yes it was quite weird.
>
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From: 


'Debra Wilson' <the_singing_goat@a...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  10:55
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] nOT: Dr Who indeed, was H2G2 talk


lol I have pretty ecletic tastes in music, anything from country to rock to
electronica, with a little latin, hip hop and rap thrown in on occasion.
I'm hoping to make a good exploration into funk and punk soon as well.. :-)

Debra Wilson
Billy-Bob's Boers, Percentage Meat Goats in SoCal
http://home.att.net/~billybobsboers/index.html
AudioGalaxy, For All Your P2P Needs
http://home.att.net/~audiogalaxy/index.html


-----Original Message-----
From: Wade Gordon [mailto:mindvoyager1@y...]
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:58 PM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [tadream] nOT: Dr Who indeed, was H2G2 talk


You begin to intrigue me.

Wade
--- Debra Wilson <the_singing_goat@a...> wrote:
> I bet if I look I have both of those versions here
> somewhere...lol.
>
> Debra Wilson
> Billy-Bob's Boers, Percentage Meat Goats in SoCal
> http://home.att.net/~billybobsboers/index.html
> AudioGalaxy, For All Your P2P Needs
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From: 


'Debra Wilson' <the_singing_goat@a...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  10:57
pm
Subject:  RE: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy


Nope, I think I'm tha one who's expense that was at.. but considering how
lost I am in this conversation, I can unserstand that... not to mention I'm
used to it.. hehe

Debra Wilson
Billy-Bob's Boers, Percentage Meat Goats in SoCal
http://home.att.net/~billybobsboers/index.html
AudioGalaxy, For All Your P2P Needs
http://home.att.net/~audiogalaxy/index.html


-----Original Message-----
From: Wade Gordon [mailto:mindvoyager1@y...]
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:56 PM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy


Am I the butt of some sort of joke or did I have to be
there to understand that comment?
Wade
--- Debra Wilson <the_singing_goat@a...> wrote:
> hehe Do I thank you for that Dale?
>
> Debra Wilson
> Billy-Bob's Boers, Percentage Meat Goats in SoCal
> http://home.att.net/~billybobsboers/index.html
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<MESSAGE index="38615">
From: 


'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  10:59
pm
Subject:  Re: Re: [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy


;-)


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<MESSAGE index="38616">
From: 


'billythefish01 <mudspanker@y...>' <mudspanker@y...> 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  12:30
am
Subject:  [tadream] Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy


How many posts on this thread?!!!!!

I Lurvvve HHGTTG, and I also lurvrve Dr. Who, but at the same time I 
harbour a desire to eat my bicycle chain when watching Lord of the 
rings, Star Trek or Star Wars...

Could it be something to do with the competitive elements we were 
discussing earlier?

But I do just get so bored by this.

Give me an explosives truck driving over a rickety bridge any day; 
not to mention making love on a real train (if you can get it to 
work...... .... in London)


;-)

BTF


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<MESSAGE index="38617">
From: 


'Chris Owen' <chris@o...> 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  8:45
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Exorcist


I doubt if TD would have ever scored a film of this nature. I remember Edgar
saying in a retrospective interview, about when they were offered to score
Sorcerer. He was told an offer had come in to score William Freidkin's new
film. Edgar presumed this upcoming film was a sequel to The Exorcist, and
said something like 'why would we want to score a film like that?' When he
later learned the film in question was a remake of Clouzot's classic, 'The
Wages Of Fear', he was far more interested in producing the soundtrack.

Having said that, TD have since done their share of horror scores of course,
The Keep and Near Dark being the most obvious two.

- Chris

----- Original Message -----
From: fozziebear <fozziebear.beehive@b...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 12:47 PM
Subject: [tadream] Exorcist


> John Vertical said 'On the other hand, if there were no TB, Mr. Friedkin
> could have hired TD already for the Exorcist - which would have led to
more
> fame'
>
> What a shame they didn't. I am trying to imagine what it might have been
> like if they did. May be Firestarter is the nearest
>


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<MESSAGE index="38618">
From: 


'tei waz' <teiwazbarana@h...> 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  12:45
am
Subject:  Dr WHO vs. Dark Shadows


>Great Scott!!!! My humble forgiveness, but I may be
wrong but wasn't 'Dark Shadows' a daytime drama or to
be put another way, a soap opera. This means a
different program every afternoon doesn't it? <

Actually it means it's a serial like Dr. WHO was a serial and there 
certainly were element of phantasm in both shows--furthermore if DS can be 
dismissed as a mere soap opera why is it shown here?:

http://www.scifi.com/schedulebot/today.html

OK, besides the obvious filling space between commercial advertisements and 
PSAs....

--T

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From: 


Jonathan Holt <plantpot_73@y...> 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  1:32
am
Subject:  RE: [tadream] nOT: Dr Who indeed, was H2G2 talk


(Although it's too late for me... ;-)
For the sake of the rest of those men with a taste in
music that goes beyond the Top 40, please ensure you
get cloned as soon as possible!


--- Debra Wilson <the_singing_goat@a...> wrote: >
lol I have pretty ecletic tastes in music, anything
> from country to rock to
> electronica, with a little latin, hip hop and rap
> thrown in on occasion.
> I'm hoping to make a good exploration into funk and
> punk soon as well.. :-)


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From: 


'Debra Wilson' <the_singing_goat@a...> 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  1:45
am
Subject:  RE: [tadream] nOT: Dr Who indeed, was H2G2 talk


Aw! Thanks! But I can't imagine a bunch of me's- the idea is pretty scary to
even consider.. I mean I growl in the morning, I hate to appear anywhere
before 5pm, and I enjoy moonlight, and don't care much for sunbeams or
crowded places... hmm.. maybe a bunch of me-clones would make an interesting
impact on the world.. assuming that there weren't a bunch of 'those top 40
people'-clones to counter me.. hehe

Debra Wilson
Billy-Bob's Boers, Percentage Meat Goats in SoCal
http://home.att.net/~billybobsboers/index.html
AudioGalaxy, For All Your P2P Needs
http://home.att.net/~audiogalaxy/index.html


-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Holt [mailto:plantpot_73@y...]
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 5:33 PM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [tadream] nOT: Dr Who indeed, was H2G2 talk


(Although it's too late for me... ;-)
For the sake of the rest of those men with a taste in
music that goes beyond the Top 40, please ensure you
get cloned as soon as possible!


--- Debra Wilson <the_singing_goat@a...> wrote: >
lol I have pretty ecletic tastes in music, anything
> from country to rock to
> electronica, with a little latin, hip hop and rap
> thrown in on occasion.
> I'm hoping to make a good exploration into funk and
> punk soon as well.. :-)


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From: 


quarlie@a... 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  3:25
am
Subject:  Re: Dr. Who theme


the_singing_goat@a... wrote:

> I bet if I look I have both of those versions here somewhere...lol.

I know I do... as well as one by Astralasia.

--Daniel
NP: Funker Vogt - Date of Expiration EP


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<MESSAGE index="38622">
From: 
'Matthew Stringer' <qube@f...> 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  3:53
am
Subject:  Retro


I've been thinking, with respect to the concert next month; '30 years
live' and the large amount of re-issues currently coming from the TDI
vaults; Tangerine Dream seem to have firmly established themselves as a
retro band and are perhaps no longer trying to seek new audience but
entertain the one they have.

I remember hearing an interview with Pink Floyd's Richard Wright during
the Division Bell tour who said that he would never want PF to become a
retro band and would only go on stage if they had something new to play
as being retro would be quite unpleasant.

With EF's usual forward thinking I would be interested to know how he
would react to receiving the 'retro' label.

I remember when I was younger, I used to think that I would always like
new music and would always find new artists that could move me.
It hadn't occurred to me that one day the performers on 'Top of the
Pops' would be much younger than me and that I would end up scoffing at
a 17 year old kid singing about love and heartache because what could he
know at that age?!

So I listen to my old albums and get excited about remasters and
reissues of Tubular Bells and The Dark Side of the Moon etc comfortable
with the fact that I have probably become retro too! 

One thing's for certain though:-

Our music was much better :)

So long live the Tangs and all the other aging rockers who've
entertained us for all these years.

May you be restored, remastered and reissued for many years to come.

See you on the 15th.

Matthew


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From: 


'Debra Wilson' <the_singing_goat@a...> 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  3:53
am
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Re: Dr. Who theme


I've never heard of them.. who are they?

Debra Wilson
Billy-Bob's Boers, Percentage Meat Goats in SoCal
http://home.att.net/~billybobsboers/index.html
AudioGalaxy, For All Your P2P Needs
http://home.att.net/~audiogalaxy/index.html


-----Original Message-----
From: quarlie@a... [mailto:quarlie@a...]
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 7:25 PM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] Re: Dr. Who theme


the_singing_goat@a... wrote:

> I bet if I look I have both of those versions here somewhere...lol.

I know I do... as well as one by Astralasia.

--Daniel
NP: Funker Vogt - Date of Expiration EP


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<MESSAGE index="38624">
From: 


Liondream@a... 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  4:06
am
Subject:  Re: Be he a Time Lord?


Only time will tell.


In a message dated 1/30/2003 6:31:33 PM Central Standard Time, 
tadream@yahoogroups.com writes:


> Message: 14
> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 13:39:53 -0800
> From: 'Administrator' <admin@k...>
> Subject: Re: Re: Re: Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy
> 
> I think, that if one has seen every episode, has many on tape, seen every
> movie, perhaps more than twice (20 * +). That might make you a Time Lord....
> ;-)
> dale
> 


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<MESSAGE index="38625">
From: 


Liondream@a... 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  4:15
am
Subject:  Re: Hate Dr. Who


The Master, Davros to name two. I bet Dr. Evil doesn't like Dr. Who either - 
even though they are both doctors.


In a message dated 1/30/2003 3:04:24 PM Central Standard Time, 
tadream@yahoogroups.com writes:


> Message: 18
> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:31:09 -0800 (PST)
> From: Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...>
> Subject: Re: Off topic topics
> 
> Doesn't everybody like Dr. Who?
> 


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<MESSAGE index="38626">
From: 


Liondream@a... 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  4:22
am
Subject:  Re: Dr. Who music


Indeed, the music for Dr. Who was very inspirational even though sometimes it 
seemed kinda low tech - like the rest of the show. But it was all good.

There's an idea for a quick one-off for you... a disk of Dr. Who inspired 
music done perhaps by the muzikers on this list. Yannick?

Here's a whole can of worms for ya, a question that's always a good one for 
discussion:

Who's your favorite doctor?

Further...

Who's your favorite sidekick?

In a message dated 1/30/2003 3:04:24 PM Central Standard Time, 
tadream@yahoogroups.com writes:


> Message: 25
> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 13:03:09 -0800 (PST)
> From: Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...>
> Subject: Re: nOT: Dr Who indeed, was H2G2 talk
> 
> Yes, the Delaware version is to die for...How about
> the new stereo version that Mark just cobbled
> together. He's a great chap that one.
> 


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<MESSAGE index="38627">
From: 


'Admin' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  5:03
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Hate Dr. Who


dalek


----- Original Message -----
From: <Liondream@a...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 8:15 PM
Subject: [tadream] Re: Hate Dr. Who


> The Master, Davros to name two. I bet Dr. Evil doesn't like Dr. Who
either -
> even though they are both doctors.
>
>
> In a message dated 1/30/2003 3:04:24 PM Central Standard Time,
> tadream@yahoogroups.com writes:
>
>
> > Message: 18
> > Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 12:31:09 -0800 (PST)
> > From: Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...>
> > Subject: Re: Off topic topics
> >
> > Doesn't everybody like Dr. Who?
> >
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
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>
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>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


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<MESSAGE index="38628">
From: 


Eric Williamson <erwill@s...> 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  7:29
am
Subject:  Re: Dr. Who music


Quoting Liondream@a...:
> There's an idea for a quick one-off for you... a disk of Dr. Who inspired 
> music done perhaps by the muzikers on this list. Yannick?

i'm up for it. i get first dibs on the Dalek cue. maybe i should make some Sea 
Devil noises too ...

one rule: no Liz Parker-style pan flute. hahaha . j/k.

> Who's your favorite doctor?

the Doctor. kind of like asking me what my favourite King Crimson lineup is.

> Who's your favorite sidekick?

Lady Romanadvoratralundar, the second. yes i know that answer isn't harmonious 
with my previous answer.
---
Eric Williamson
www.suitandtieguy.com


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<MESSAGE index="38629">
From: 


'baron_de_ley <baron_de_ley@y...>' <baron_de_ley@y...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  5:25
pm
Subject:  Alexander Square


Hi all you out there!!!


I have been in this group sinc the end of 2002
and this is my 1 mess

Have been a TD-fan since 1980 at the age of 10 years old :)


I have a ??? 

I have been wondering why it´s written, music and lyrics on
the 'Alexander Square' cd-singel. I have never heard anyone sing on 
the cd-singel or the'12.

Is´t a missprinting or

Pleas tell me

Best regards Stefan


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<MESSAGE index="38630">
From: 


'Debra Wilson' <the_singing_goat@a...> 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  7:51
am
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Alexander Square


Welcome Stefan :-)
I can't answer that, because quite simply, I'm clueless.. but I do like good
music, so I wander in and out on occasion... sitting here now watching my
cat consider attacking the ceiling fan.. :-/
Anyway, I'm sure someone will have an answer, they seem to be bursting with
trivia lately! :-p


Debra Wilson
Billy-Bob's Boers, Percentage Meat Goats in SoCal
http://home.att.net/~billybobsboers/index.html
AudioGalaxy, For All Your P2P Needs
http://home.att.net/~audiogalaxy/index.html


-----Original Message-----
From: baron_de_ley <baron_de_ley@y...>
[mailto:baron_de_ley@y...]
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 9:26 AM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] Alexander Square


Hi all you out there!!!


I have been in this group sinc the end of 2002
and this is my 1 mess

Have been a TD-fan since 1980 at the age of 10 years old :)


I have a ???

I have been wondering why it´s written, music and lyrics on
the 'Alexander Square' cd-singel. I have never heard anyone sing on
the cd-singel or the'12.

Is´t a missprinting or

Pleas tell me

Best regards Stefan


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38631">
From: 


'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  8:17
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Digest Number 1665


>NEW SUBJECT FOR FRENZIED SPECULATION
>
>Practically the only TD album which has never been compiled, remixed or 
>tangentized is 'Cyclone'.
>
>It has been said that this is because Edgar doesn't like it.
>
>What other explanation could be true?


I remember an interview (but not where it was) where Steve J. said something 
about them having big mixing problems with this album - something in the 
sense of having too much layers to choose from; that they could easily have 
made three completely different Cyclone's. Hearing even one such radically 
different version would be nice.
On the other hand... Rising Runner Missed By Endless Sender could in fact 
become the first TD piece to actually benefit from tangentizing. I do like 
the overdubs of eg Silver Scale and Barbakane pt 1, but they still only 
reach equal to the original versions.

John Vertical

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<MESSAGE index="38632">
From: 
Synthhtnys@a... 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  8:28
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Digest Number 1665


In a message dated 1/31/2003 12:21:45 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
johnvertical@h... writes:

> Practically the only TD album which has never been compiled, remixed or 
> >tangentized is 'Cyclone'.
> >
> >It has been said that this is because Edgar doesn't like it.
> >
> >What other explanation could be true?
> 

*The lyrics are embarrasing? ;-)
Poly


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<MESSAGE index="38633">
From: 


Heiko Heerssen <heiko.heerssen@h...> 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  8:45
am
Subject:  Astoria merchandise items


This was posted on TDI's website yesterday:

'as we have had numerous requests as to which merchandise items we will
be selling at the show on Feb 15th and whether there will be any
specials, we decided to give you some insight....

1. we will have a special new Maxi-CD release on sale which contains
three previously unreleased pieces and is produced especially for the
event. All three pieces will be heard at the concert for the first time.

2. we have managed to recover some leftover stocks of two or three very
rare and sought-after CD-releases. So... Batman, riddle me this: One is
limited, the other bears some reference to laying a foundation stone and
we decided to keep them all a secret so as to not spoil the fun and
excitement.

3. furthermore, we will have a large selection of shirts and other
merchandise from the TDI-shop, including TDJ Rome vinyl and poster
material, while stocks last.'

Heiko


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<MESSAGE index="38634">
From: 


Heiko Heerssen <heiko.heerssen@h...> 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  8:50
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Astoria merchandise items


> . So... Batman, riddle me this: One is
> limited,

'Limited world tour edition' CD single? I hope not ;-)

> the other bears some reference to laying a foundation stone

erm.....well....I give up.

> and we decided to keep them all a secret so as to not spoil the fun and
> excitement.

'to keep'...THE KEEP?!


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38635">
From: 


Heiko Heerssen <heiko.heerssen@h...> 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  9:17
am
Subject:  Astoria gig - more details


Hi again,
also taken from TD's official homepage:


'as the day of TD's show at the London Astoria is drawing nearer, we
thought it would be good to give you some more detailed information.

The Astoria's doors will open at 6 p.m. and the show is planned to
commence at 6:45 p.m., due to a 10 p.m. curfew. We plan on ending the
show approx. 15 minutes before curfew to give everyone a chance to
obtain merchandise before getting complimented out of the venue by the
security staff.
And what to expect musically?

Well, first half of the gig will feature a 'best of'-set taking the
audience on a journey through the three past decades of the group's
oeuvre.
Second half will feature what we would like to term as 'old friends in a
different guise' - tunes that might sound somewhat familiar but at the
same time totally new. This block will completely consist about 45
minutes of music that has never before been heard on record, except for
one old favorite and two tracks that will be featured on the limited
Astoria release (see 'Astoria merchandise' newsblock for details).'
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\
-----------------------

--> since the doors will open at 6pm and there are no reserved seats, I
assume that it would be a wise idea not to arrive too late at the
Astoria. And regarding the fan meeting, I haven't been to any of those
pubs before that were mentioned on the list, but I trust Alan's
recommendation (Jack Horner's).
See ya!

Heiko (the dude with the Ramones 'Rocket to Russia' T-shirt ;-)

P.S.: 'old friends in a different guise'...could this be a preview of
Dream Mixes 4? ;-)


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<MESSAGE index="38636">
From: 


Heiko Heerssen <heiko.heerssen@h...> 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  9:44
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Astoria merchandise items


> > the other bears some reference to laying a foundation stone

the Sony Center Topping Out Ceremony score CD single?!... :-)

Riddler


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<MESSAGE index="38637">
From: 


tony.vandergaag@p... 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  9:44
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] nOT: Dr Who indeed, was H2G2 talk


Yes !!!,

quite some are already released on dvd, that is..., i saw them as rather
expensive 'imports' at my local dvd supplier here in rotterdam/netherlands

tony/rotterdam


Citeren Pergamon <pergamon@g...>:

> My stereo is playing the theme from Dr. Who on extreme
> volume.............=O)
> 
> This is the version by Orbital though..................but it still kicks
> a$$
> 
> Has Dr. Who been released on DVD???????
> 
> Jan


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<MESSAGE index="38638">
From: 


TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak <martin@t...> 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  11:06
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Dr. Who music


>
>Who's your favorite doctor?

*Dr. Frankenstein.

>Further...
>
>Who's your favorite sidekick?

*Chewbacca.

>I

Now that was way off-topic even for the D: Dr. Who-List... ;-)


Best regards,

Martin Kasprzak
TDI- Music- Support.
Tel:-49-30-23620995
Fax:-49-30-23620996

Visit our Website at:

http://www.tangerinedream.org


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<MESSAGE index="38639">
From: 
DAVKAUFMAN@a... 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  12:07
pm
Subject:  Re: Digest Number 1665


>NEW SUBJECT FOR FRENZIED SPECULATION
>
>Practically the only TD album which has never been compiled, remixed or 
>tangentized is 'Cyclone'.
>
>It has been said that this is because Edgar doesn't like it.
>
>What other explanation could be true?


I remember an interview (but not where it was) where Steve J. said something 
about them having big mixing problems with this album - something in the 
sense of having too much layers to choose from; that they could easily have 
made three completely different Cyclone's. Hearing even one such radically 
different version would be nice.


The interview John is talking about is probably the one on our Web site at 
www.hmnetwork.com.

Sincerely,

Dave Kaufman
Horizon Music, Inc.
www.hmnetwork.com


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<MESSAGE index="38640">
From: 


'Andrew' <taoist.hermit1@v...> 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  12:37
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Digest Number 1665


This is slightly at a tangent, but mention of Steve Jolliffe reminds me.
I've meant to ask someone this for ages.

During the mid-nineties some tape albums of mine were on sale in a few
outlets in Glastonbury, including The White Spring, which is a New Age
shop/cafe inside on old reservoir built into Glastonbury Tor.

There were plans for Steve Jolliffe to perform there, and I was asked if I'd
like play support for him on that gig, on the strength of the people at the
White Spring hearing my Subtle Body Gamelan album.

I wasn't able to do the gig, and I've wondered if it ever finally happened.
I forgot to ask next time I visited, and the White Spring has been closed
every time I've been to Glastonbury since then.


- Andrew


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38641">
From: 


'vic rek' <tangerinedream@a...> 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  2:07
pm
Subject:  Steamhammer


> This is slightly at a tangent, but mention of Steve Jolliffe reminds me.

Speaking of Steve, I thought I'd mention for those that don't know, that
Steve played with the rock ' roll group called 'Steamhammer'. They released
an albun in 1969 titled 'MK II'. Has anyone seen this on CD - I'd like to
find a copy.

On this alum Steve Jollife plays: Sax, flute, harpsichord and vocals.

Vic


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<MESSAGE index="38642">
From: 


Kees Aerts / Groove Unlimited <kees@g...> 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  2:24
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Steamhammer


At 09:07 31-1-03 -0500, you wrote:
> > This is slightly at a tangent, but mention of Steve Jolliffe reminds me.
>
>Speaking of Steve, I thought I'd mention for those that don't know, that
>Steve played with the rock ' roll group called 'Steamhammer'. They released
>an albun in 1969 titled 'MK II'. Has anyone seen this on CD - I'd like to
>find a copy.

It's re-released with 4 bonus tracks. I will add if to our catalog this 
weekend.


Best regards / Vriendelijke groeten,

Kees

GROOVE Unlimited (Specializing in Electronic Music)
Kees Aerts
PO Box 2171
NL-8203 AD Lelystad
Phone: +31 (0) 320 219496 ; Fax: +31 (0) 320 218910
http://www.groove.nl


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<MESSAGE index="38643">
From: 


olle.rundgren@s... 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  4:19
pm
Subject:  Re: Digest Number 1665


> From: ampmusic <info@a...>

>Virgin had a mail order record sales operation but not their own label.
When Mike Oldfield couldn't get >any other label to
>issue TBells, Virgin agreed to launch a label to do so...

>What they came up with was TD, (German), Gong (Anglo-French), Clearlight
(French) and so on.But the >success rate was patchy;

Then there was Pierre Moerlen's Gong. Made a few good albums back in the
70's (with Mike Odfield as guest star on at least one of them). The band
disappeared completely later on, only to reappear in the 90's with even less
commercial appeal. 

No TD relation, sorry. (But then again, not much of that here lately)

/Olle

	
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<MESSAGE index="38644">
From: 


quarlie@a... 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  4:20
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Dr. Who theme


the_singing_goat@a... wrote:

> I've never heard of them.. who are they?

Astralasia is a psychedelic trance group from England. In addition to the 
Doctor Who cover (which is cool) they've also done an excellent cover of King 
Crimson's 'I Talk to the Wind.'

Sorry for the OT post. But then, it's been mostly OT this week.

--Daniel
NP: Gong - You


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<MESSAGE index="38645">
From: 


'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  4:27
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Dr. Who music


the rub to it all ..

dalek is the first part of my email address at my day job.

I am reminded all day... EXTERMINATE ... EXTERMINATE .... EXTERMINATE

day job = system administrator
dalek = dale kay


dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Eric Williamson' <erwill@s...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 11:29 PM
Subject: [tadream] Re: Dr. Who music


> Quoting Liondream@a...:
> > There's an idea for a quick one-off for you... a disk of Dr. Who
inspired
> > music done perhaps by the muzikers on this list. Yannick?
>
> i'm up for it. i get first dibs on the Dalek cue. maybe i should make some
Sea
> Devil noises too ...
>
> one rule: no Liz Parker-style pan flute. hahaha . j/k.
>
> > Who's your favorite doctor?
>
> the Doctor. kind of like asking me what my favourite King Crimson lineup
is.
>
> > Who's your favorite sidekick?
>
> Lady Romanadvoratralundar, the second. yes i know that answer isn't
harmonious
> with my previous answer.
> ---
> Eric Williamson
> www.suitandtieguy.com
>
>
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<MESSAGE index="38646">
From: 


Paul Fellows <pfellows@c...> 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  5:05
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] nOT: Dr Who indeed, was H2G2 talk


For us old croneys who were born only a year after the show started in
1963...a great show to hide behind the sofa to, my fave monsters were the
cybermen, anyone remember a Tom Baker episode called 'the Ark in space' with
cybermen, cybermats and humans kept in suspended animation in a space
station:-)

I bought the DVD 'the five doctors' from a shop called 'past times' in the
UK for a reasonable price...

Paul

on 31/01/03 10:44, tony.vandergaag@p... at
tony.vandergaag@p... wrote:

> Yes !!!,
> 
> quite some are already released on dvd, that is..., i saw them as rather
> expensive 'imports' at my local dvd supplier here in rotterdam/netherlands
> 
> tony/rotterdam
> 
> 
> Citeren Pergamon <pergamon@g...>:
> 
>> My stereo is playing the theme from Dr. Who on extreme
>> volume.............=O)
>> 
>> This is the version by Orbital though..................but it still kicks
>> a$$
>> 
>> Has Dr. Who been released on DVD???????
>> 
>> Jan
> 
> 
> 
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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38647">
From: 


'Bill Fox' <billfox@f...> 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  5:11
pm
Subject:  EMUSIC Playlist #306 for January 30, 2003


[ Best viewed using a fixed spacing font. ]

EMUSIC is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday
at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton,
PA and Phillipsburg, NJ.

Show #306 January 30, 2003.


RECAP:
On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on Brannan Lane, a rising star
in the spacemusic genre. The Featured CD at midnight was 'Hypnotic Drift' by
Brannan Lane on his own brannanlane.com label.

The Vinyl Starter was from the LP 'Trip in the Center Head' by Space Art on IF
Records.

I played the music of Orbital Decay who will be at the next Soundscapes Concert
Series on February 22, 2003. I also played the music of The Ministry of Inside
Things who will play at Third Floor From The Sun on Friday, January 31.

Brannan Lane
http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic/playlists/2003/focus03.html#jan
Soundscapes Concert Series http://soundscapes.us
Ministry of Inside Things http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic/events.html


PLAYLIST:

ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label)
======================= ======================== ==============================
11:04 pm
Space Art Speedway Trip in the Center Head (IF)
Orbital Decay 6 of 3 Drastic Park (none)
The Ministry of Inside Exerpt from Set #2 Soundscapes Concert #2 (none)
Things
Skin Mechanix Ultravista The Secret Life of Angels
(InfectionMusic)
Amongst Myselves The Shores of the Sacred Black (RMC Records)
Cosmic Ocean
Brannan Lane Zone One Hypnotic Drift (brannanlane.com)

12:00 am
Brannan Lane Zone Two Hypnotic Drift (brannanlane.com)
Brannan Lane Zone Three Hypnotic Drift (brannanlane.com)
Brannan Lane Zone Four Hypnotic Drift (brannanlane.com)
Brannan Lane Zone Five Hypnotic Drift (brannanlane.com)
Brannan Lane Zone Six Hypnotic Drift (brannanlane.com)
Brannan Lane Zone Seven Hypnotic Drift (brannanlane.com)
Brannan Lane Zone Eight Hypnotic Drift (brannanlane.com)
Brannan Lane Zone Nine Hypnotic Drift (brannanlane.com)
Brannan Lane Zone Ten Hypnotic Drift (brannanlane.com)
Brannan Lane Zone Eleven Hypnotic Drift (brannanlane.com)
VA [Nemesis] Moontrigger * Dreamwatchers' Tales (Mirage
Creations)

1:00 am

* = exerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)


NEXT SHOW:
On the next EMUSIC, I'll begin a month-long focus on Orbital Decay. The
Featured CD at Midnight will be 'Live in Concert 2-16-2002' from concert tapes.

The vinyl show starter will be from the LP 'Underwater Sunlight' by Tangerine
Dream on the Relativity label.

Bill
===============================================================================
Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at
11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and
Phillipsburg. http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic All times are GMT-5:00
Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN
To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, go to
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emusic-wdiy and click on [Join This Group!]
Host of the AM/FM Show on WMUH Allentown 91.7 FM every other Saturday at 6 am.
Host of Afterglow on WMUH every Thursday morning from 8:00 to 9:30.
http://soundscapes.us/~bill/amfm http://soundscapes.us/~bill/afterglow
Listen on-line to WMUH at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click REAL AUDIO
Personal site: http://soundscapes.us/~bill All times are GMT-5:00
SOUNDSCAPES Concert Series: http://soundscapes.us


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38648">
From: 


Erik Sanborn <esanborn@n...> 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  5:51
pm
Subject:  Re: Dr. Who music


> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 23:22:05 EST
> From: Liondream@a...
>
>Indeed, the music for Dr. Who was very inspirational even though sometimes it
>seemed kinda low tech - like the rest of the show. But it was all good.
>
>There's an idea for a quick one-off for you... a disk of Dr. Who inspired
>music done perhaps by the muzikers on this list. Yannick?

Or perhaps a compilation of various cover versions of the Dr. Who theme? I 
was unaware of the Orbital and Astralasia versions.
(I'm surprised Duncan doesn't already have a 'definitive edition' of Dr. 
Who music. :)


>Here's a whole can of worms for ya, a question that's always a good one for
>discussion:
>
>Who's your favorite doctor?

Tom Baker. No contest.


>Further...
>
>Who's your favorite sidekick?

Leela. ;-)
(Romana #2 gets second place.)


-Erik


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38649">
From: 


'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  6:03
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Dr. Who music


I would have to concur with Erik's answers for Dr. Who. There are a few
other notable ones but Tom Baker was above the all.

dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Erik Sanborn' <esanborn@n...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 9:51 AM
Subject: [tadream] Re: Dr. Who music


>
> > Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 23:22:05 EST
> > From: Liondream@a...
> >
> >Indeed, the music for Dr. Who was very inspirational even though
sometimes it
> >seemed kinda low tech - like the rest of the show. But it was all good.
> >
> >There's an idea for a quick one-off for you... a disk of Dr. Who inspired
> >music done perhaps by the muzikers on this list. Yannick?
>
> Or perhaps a compilation of various cover versions of the Dr. Who theme?
I
> was unaware of the Orbital and Astralasia versions.
> (I'm surprised Duncan doesn't already have a 'definitive edition' of Dr.
> Who music. :)
>
>
> >Here's a whole can of worms for ya, a question that's always a good one
for
> >discussion:
> >
> >Who's your favorite doctor?
>
> Tom Baker. No contest.
>
>
> >Further...
> >
> >Who's your favorite sidekick?
>
> Leela. ;-)
> (Romana #2 gets second place.)
>
>
> -Erik
>
>
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>
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> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38650">
From: 


'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  6:11
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] doctors doctors everywhere


> >Who's your favorite doctor?
>
>*Dr. Frankenstein.


Is Dr. Destructo taken yet?

John Vertical

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<MESSAGE index="38651">
From: 


'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  6:15
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Astoria gig - more details


>'Second half will feature what we would like to term as 'old friends in a
>different guise' - tunes that might sound somewhat familiar but at the
>same time totally new. This block will completely consist about 45
>minutes of music that has never before been heard on record, except for
>one old favorite and two tracks that will be featured on the limited
>Astoria release (see 'Astoria merchandise' newsblock for details).'
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------\
------------------------
>P.S.: 'old friends in a different guise'...could this be a preview of
>Dream Mixes 4? ;-)


'One old favourite' sounds like Choronzon to me... That's the 1 long-time 
fave that has not been revisited yet...

John Vertical

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<MESSAGE index="38652">
From: 


'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  6:44
pm
Subject:  Poland


back to Poland...

Listening once again to Poland on the way to work, I was wondering what
equipment was Chris Frank using on the drum parts. Assuming, that is him
doing the drum parts.

Dale


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38653">
From: 


'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  6:48
pm
Subject:  Airsculpture


Who on the list is a good contact to buy albums, even out of stock for
Airsculpture? Contact me off list Please.

It is now time to add them to my collection.

Dale


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38654">
From: 


'fozziebear' <fozziebear.beehive@b...> 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  6:55
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Dr. Who music


Who's your favorite doctor? Tom Baker
>
> Further...
>
> Who's your favorite sidekick? Jo or Sarah

There's this guy locally that the court staff call The Dalek ..cos he's got
one eye and the record amount of restraining orders against one
individual...we gave up counting after order number 8. His trouble is,
when gets angry he just wants to exterminate.


David

np Paris 81


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38655">
From: 


'Colin Jouxson <convention24@y...>' <convention24@y...> 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  7:31
pm
Subject:  re-Tangerine-Dream.The Greatest


Pheadra, Rubycon Stratosfear, there is no doubt,these guys were the 
complete Untouchables,Tangerine Dream-Probably the Greatest of all 
TIME.


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<MESSAGE index="38656">
From: 


'K. W. Beal' <noir43@s...> 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  8:27
pm
Subject:  ISO: Klaus Schulze info -


Howdy all..

Sorry for the non TD content (but hey, he did play with td at one time)

Anyway, I have the following fan cdrs and am looking for any and all info
you people might have about them.

The discs are:

15 DEC 1998 - 2 discs
19 MAY 2001 - Berlin - 2 discs
04 FEB 2000 - RFH London - 1 disc
04 MAY 1977 - Rennes - 'Original'
Live in Belgium 80

Now this one is weird: 2 disc set: disc one says: Hambourg 85; disc 2 says:
Holland 85

Does anybody have any further info, clarificationns....anything....

TIA,

Ken


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38657">
From: 


Chris Richards <kohntarkosz@y...> 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  8:37
pm
Subject:  Re: Dr Who, still


<<> Who's your favorite sidekick?

Lady Romanadvoratralundar, the second. yes i know

that answer isn't harmonious with my previous
answer.>>

That's IT! That's Romana's full name! Why
couldn't I remember that?!

I suppse my favorites were probably Jo Grant,
Leela, Nyssa, and Peri. I like a woman who looks
like innocent (ie Jo or Nyssa), but when women
who can kick ass (ie Leela) or who just plain
look like they stepped out of a James Bond movie
are even better! :-) When I first saw the
episodes with Sylvester McCoy (the seventh and
final Doctor), back when I was a teenager, I
kinda had a thing for Ace, but now she's a little
too chuby and frenetic for my tastes. 

And my favorite Doctor is definitely Tom Baker.
Yeah, I know that's a cop out, like saying your
favorite original Trek episode is The Trouble
With Tribbles. But it's the truth. I supose Jon
Pertwee would come in second, but only because he
had Old Bessie. 


=====
May you never thirst!
The Scuba Diver Presently Known As Chris

'What do you get when you give a yo-yo to a flock of flamingos?'-James Earl
Jones

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<MESSAGE index="38658">
From: 


erwill@s... 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  8:57
pm
Subject:  Dr Who and the Alien Seagull


Quoting Chris Richards <kohntarkosz@y...>:
> I suppse my favorites were probably Jo Grant,
...
> had Old Bessie. 

your post reminded me that my favourite companion is actually Bernice 
Summerfield, but she's only in the books. the book's characterisation of the 
seventh Doctor is really cool. up until he destroys Gallifrey, but most fans 
want the BBC books taken out of the cannon.

does anyone think the alien seagull sounds like a Dr Who sound effect?


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38659">
From: 


Marion Horrod <marion@h...> 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  9:09
pm
Subject:  Re: Retro


Matt said
'I've been thinking, with respect to the concert next month; '30 years
live' and the large amount of re-issues currently coming from the TDI
vaults; Tangerine Dream seem to have firmly established themselves as a
retro band and are perhaps no longer trying to seek new audience but
entertain the one they have.'

Or maybe, she said with a wild gleam of hope in her eye, they feel that 
it's time to take stock of, and celebrate, the past before heading off in a 
completely new and surprising direction. Sort of 'let's look at where we 
are and how we got here before we go further'?

LnH

Marion

'The glass is neither half full or half empty. It's twice the size it needs
to be ...' S. Blakemore


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38660">
From: 


Marion Horrod <marion@h...> 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  9:13
pm
Subject:  Favourite Doctor


Liondream couldn't resist asking:
Who's your favorite doctor?
Further...
Who's your favorite sidekick?

I think this, like 'What's your favourite TD album', tends to be influenced 
by what your first exposure was. For me, it's Tom Baker, closely followed 
by Pertwee.

Favourite sidekick is K9, of course!

LnH

Marion

'The glass is neither half full or half empty. It's twice the size it needs
to be ...' S. Blakemore


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38661">
From: 


'K. W. Beal' <noir43@s...> 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  9:16
pm
Subject:  FS: Vinyl & VHS tapes


Howdy All,

I am taking offers on the following items that I have for sale.

VHS Tapes:

Tangerine Dream - Three Phase
Tangerine Dream - Canyon Dreams
Tangerine Dream - Luminous Visions


VINYL:

Klaus Schulze - Blackdance
Klaus Schulze - Mindphaser
Edgar Froese - Macula Transfer
Edgar Froese - Solo 1974-1979
Tangerine Dream - Logos Live
Tangerine Dream - Sorcerer
Tangerine Dream - Flashpoint
Tangerine Dream - Heartbreakers
Tangerine Dream - Shy People
Tangerine Dream - '70-'80
Tangerine Dream - Warsaw In The Sun - Maxi-Single 45rpm

All are in good or better condition (I am no expert when it comes to grading
vinyl)...

Question? Ask...

TIA,

Ken


-- 
'Always headin' toward that Lipstick Sunset.'

Trade list: http://www32.brinkster.com/noir43


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38662">
From: 


'Dean Mitchell' <deano.m@n...> 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  9:15
pm
Subject:  Tangerine Tree Volumn 1 for Sale


I visited the site www.gemm.com and notice someone selling all of the TT1 for
£17.00 to £35.00. I think this is very worrying and hope Td do not stop this
project because of it. I think we must stress to all our members that this
project is only going to work if we adhere to the rules that no money changes
hands for these products.

Dean

Ps I can not wait until the TT3 are made available, the covers are great.
Thanks to all those working behind the scenes to make this project work. Well
done!!! 


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<MESSAGE index="38663">
From: 


'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...> 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  10:39
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Tangerine Tree Volumn 1 for Sale


From: 'Dean Mitchell' <deano.m@n...>


> I visited the site www.gemm.com and notice someone
> selling all of the TT1 for £17.00 to £35.00.


$30 per volume. $60 for volume 4! That's over $250 for the entire set. I'd love
to see how they removed the 'never buy or sell' phrase from every single cover.
I hope TDI do the right thing and shithammer this guy with the lawyers, and not
us.

Oh, and occording to this site the TT project originates from Brazil. Heh..


Maff


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38664">
From: 


'Robert Asmus' <asmus0324@c...> 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  11:17
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Tangerine Tree Volumn 1 for Sale


I thinks we need to find out who this jerk is and fire up a little 
Battle pong on his IP. When it comes to interfering with this 
Most perfect project I get very touchy

Robert Asmus

-----Original Message-----
From: Dean Mitchell [mailto:deano.m@n...] 
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 4:15 PM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] Tangerine Tree Volumn 1 for Sale

I visited the site www.gemm.com and notice someone selling all of the
TT1 for £17.00 to £35.00. I think this is very worrying and hope Td do
not stop this project because of it. I think we must stress to all our
members that this project is only going to work if we adhere to the
rules that no money changes hands for these products.

Dean

Ps I can not wait until the TT3 are made available, the covers are
great. Thanks to all those working behind the scenes to make this
project work. Well done!!! 


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38665">
From: 


'Robert Asmus' <asmus0324@c...> 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  11:20
pm
Subject:  Off Topic: For All You TD Fans that Get AMC (American Movie Clasics)


The movie Legend with Tim Curry and Tom Cruise and of course a most
excellent sound track done by Tangerine Dream will be on Saturday night
on AMC. I think it starts at 8:00 pm but check your local listings


Robert Asmus


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<MESSAGE index="38666">
From: 


Vincent <vgoudreault@v...> 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  11:51
pm
Subject:  Classic and Soundtrack trees


I need help. It seems my appointed supplier for the Classic and the
Soundtrack tree
will not come through; he has not been responding to email since December 7,
by which
time he already was in possession of his copy of the CD's. I figure, two
months to
duplicate is a bit too long, now.

I was supposed to be a third generation branch, and my leaves and I are
getting concerned
since TT3 is just around the corner, and I'd like to get the outstanding one
out of the
way pronto.

For the record, I require the following, in redbook format:

Classic: volume 1 2 3 4 5
Movie soundtrack: all of them


Contact me off-list so we can arrange a deal.

Regards

C.B.Vincent Goudreault


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38667">
From: 


Liondream@a... 
Date:  Sat Feb 1, 2003  12:01
am
Subject:  Re: Wracajac do Polski


I have an old cassette that lists the equipment used on Poland. Assuming that
it's accurate, I can pull it out and send tonight - if and when I get out of
work!

Maybe someone else has this too and can post...

Back then, I think the TR707s were the 'in' thing... maybe it's something along
those lines... TR707, DMX, SP12 (or did that come later?)...

RX5 came a bit later... I remember seeing that on the LiveMiles cover photo.


<<<Message: 15
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 10:44:17 -0800
From: 'Administrator' <admin@k...>
Subject: Poland

back to Poland...

Listening once again to Poland on the way to work, I was wondering what
equipment was Chris Frank using on the drum parts. Assuming, that is him
doing the drum parts.

Dale>>>

	
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<MESSAGE index="38668">
From: 


Liondream@a... 
Date:  Sat Feb 1, 2003  12:06
am
Subject:  Re: Romana


Which Romana, there were two of them, remember?

Romana no.2 apparently the Dr. (Tom Baker) liked very much too; in fact, enough
that he even married her.


<<<Message: 20
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 12:37:59 -0800 (PST)
From: Chris Richards <kohntarkosz@y...>
Subject: Re: Dr Who, still

<<> Who's your favorite sidekick?

Lady Romanadvoratralundar, the second. yes i know

that answer isn't harmonious with my previous
answer.>>

That's IT! That's Romana's full name! Why
couldn't I remember that?!>>>

	
</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38669">
From: 


Liondream@a... 
Date:  Sat Feb 1, 2003  12:11
am
Subject:  Re: favorite sidekick k9


K9, yes, hooray for K9!!!!!!!

Okay... enough. I'm ditching this work business!!!!! I'm getting out of here as
soon as I send this off, and I'm stopping to pick up some Dr. Who dvds on the
way home!!!! Work can wait 'til Monday.


<<<Message: 23
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 21:13:49 +0000
From: Marion Horrod <marion@h...>
Subject: Favourite Doctor

Liondream couldn't resist asking:
Who's your favorite doctor?
Further...
Who's your favorite sidekick?

I think this, like 'What's your favourite TD album', tends to be influenced
by what your first exposure was. For me, it's Tom Baker, closely followed
by Pertwee.

Favourite sidekick is K9, of course!

LnH

Marion>>>

	
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<MESSAGE index="38670">
From: 


'Andrew' <taoist.hermit1@v...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 1, 2003  1:25
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Poland


The cover of Poland gives a complete instrument list - at least, the
original vinyl release did.

So am I missing something, or does everybody here have a CD release with no
listing?

Chris Franke is credited with using a Syntec custom digital drum computer
and Simmons drum modules, though I'd suspect additional percussion probably
comes from some of the other instruments listed. There are obviously
samples in the drum break in the first piece, though those may be from the
Syntec.

In addition, Edgar used DMX Oberheim digital drums, and Johannes Bohm
digital drums and a Roland TR 808.


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Administrator' <admin@k...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 6:44 PM
Subject: [tadream] Poland


> back to Poland...
>
> Listening once again to Poland on the way to work, I was wondering what
> equipment was Chris Frank using on the drum parts. Assuming, that is him
> doing the drum parts.
>
> Dale


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38671">
From: 


'Admin' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 1, 2003  1:20
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Tangerine Tree Volumn 1 for Sale


I am with you on this. This was not the intent. This person should be
contacted at once. Has anyone done a follow up yet to see who owns the site
and contact information?

dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Dean Mitchell' <deano.m@n...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 1:15 PM
Subject: [tadream] Tangerine Tree Volumn 1 for Sale


I visited the site www.gemm.com and notice someone selling all of the TT1
for £17.00 to £35.00. I think this is very worrying and hope Td do not stop
this project because of it. I think we must stress to all our members that
this project is only going to work if we adhere to the rules that no money
changes hands for these products.

Dean

Ps I can not wait until the TT3 are made available, the covers are great.
Thanks to all those working behind the scenes to make this project work.
Well done!!!


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


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To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
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Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/

Tangerine Tree info at
http://www.tadream.net/tree

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38672">
From: 


'Admin' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 1, 2003  1:25
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: favorite sidekick k9


You can spend a large sum for the DVD's / VHS sets!
They are rather nice to have. At least once a year I play a few of mine. I
first saw Dr. Who off a college UHF TV Station back in 1977. I was hooked
from the start. Even with the snow screen half the time, it was a must stop
what I was doing time and watch TV.

Dale


----- Original Message -----
From: <Liondream@a...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 4:11 PM
Subject: [tadream] Re: favorite sidekick k9


> K9, yes, hooray for K9!!!!!!!
>
> Okay... enough. I'm ditching this work business!!!!! I'm getting out of
here as soon as I send this off, and I'm stopping to pick up some Dr. Who
dvds on the way home!!!! Work can wait 'til Monday.
>
>
>
> <<<Message: 23
> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 21:13:49 +0000
> From: Marion Horrod <marion@h...>
> Subject: Favourite Doctor
>
> Liondream couldn't resist asking:
> Who's your favorite doctor?
> Further...
> Who's your favorite sidekick?
>
> I think this, like 'What's your favourite TD album', tends to be
influenced
> by what your first exposure was. For me, it's Tom Baker, closely
followed
> by Pertwee.
>
> Favourite sidekick is K9, of course!
>
> LnH
>
> Marion>>>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38673">
From: 


'Debra Wilson' <the_singing_goat@a...> 
Date:  Fri Jan 31, 2003  11:24
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Off Topic: For All You TD Fans that Get AMC (American Movie Clasics)


Yay! I'm mad, I know I bought that movie ages ago, but after a 3 hour
search, I cant find it! So I will be watching it for sure! :-)

Debra Wilson
Billy-Bob's Boers, Percentage Meat Goats in SoCal
http://home.att.net/~billybobsboers/index.html
AudioGalaxy, For All Your P2P Needs
http://home.att.net/~audiogalaxy/index.html


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Asmus [mailto:asmus0324@c...]
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 3:21 PM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] Off Topic: For All You TD Fans that Get AMC (American
Movie Clasics)


The movie Legend with Tim Curry and Tom Cruise and of course a most
excellent sound track done by Tangerine Dream will be on Saturday night
on AMC. I think it starts at 8:00 pm but check your local listings


Robert Asmus


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38674">
From: 


Jorge Figueiredo <jorgefig@e...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 1, 2003  1:59
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Tangerine Tree Volumn 1 for Sale


The seller information on www.gemm.com is:

Home Page http://cdvdonline.gemm.com
E-Mail cdvdgemm@s...
Phone (Not given)
Business Hours 9:00/18:00
Street Address
Rua Dr. Jorge Whinter, 244, Centro
TAUBATE, S.P. 12010150
BRAZIL

We should have a little talk with this guys.

Gustavo, since you are in Brazil, can you check this guys?


On 2/1/2003 1:20 AM, Admin wrote:
> I am with you on this. This was not the intent. This person should be
> contacted at once. Has anyone done a follow up yet to see who owns the site
> and contact information?
> 
> dale
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Dean Mitchell' <deano.m@n...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 1:15 PM
> Subject: [tadream] Tangerine Tree Volumn 1 for Sale
> 
> 
> I visited the site www.gemm.com and notice someone selling all of the TT1
> for £17.00 to £35.00. I think this is very worrying and hope Td do not stop
> this project because of it. I think we must stress to all our members that
> this project is only going to work if we adhere to the rules that no money
> changes hands for these products.
> 
> Dean
> 
> Ps I can not wait until the TT3 are made available, the covers are great.
> Thanks to all those working behind the scenes to make this project work.
> Well done!!!
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> 
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
> 
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com 
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> 
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree 
> 
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 
> 
> 
> 
> .
> 


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38675">
From: 


Robert Grabowsky <hghlndr@t...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 1, 2003  2:12
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Tangerine Tree Volumn 1 for Sale


Here is what I know about gemm.com:

It is for lack of a better word a co-op to help small music stores sell the
music that they have. Each seller is responsible for what they sell.

So don't go getting crazy on gemm.com. Contact the seller not gemm.com

However I fear this is to late as I could not log on to gemm.com

There are 100's of sellers that peddle their wares thru gemm.

THE HIGHLANDER

	
</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38676">
From: 


Jorge Figueiredo <jorgefig@e...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 1, 2003  2:16
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Tangerine Tree Volumn 1 for Sale


There must be some pretty good 'techie' guys on this list. ;-)
As soon as I posted the info about the seller the website became 
unreachable...

Jorge Figueiredo

On 2/1/2003 2:12 AM, Robert Grabowsky wrote:
> Here is what I know about gemm.com:
> 
> It is for lack of a better word a co-op to help small music stores sell the
> music that they have. Each seller is responsible for what they sell.
> 
> So don't go getting crazy on gemm.com. Contact the seller not gemm.com
> 
> However I fear this is to late as I could not log on to gemm.com
> 
> There are 100's of sellers that peddle their wares thru gemm.
> 
> THE HIGHLANDER
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com 
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> 
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree 
> 
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 
> 
> 
> 
> .
> 


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38677">
From: 


quarlie@a... 
Date:  Sat Feb 1, 2003  3:56
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Off Topic:  For All You TD Fans that Get AMC (American Movie Clasics)


asmus0324@c... wrote:

> The movie Legend with Tim Curry and Tom Cruise and of course a most
>excellent sound track done by Tangerine Dream will be on Saturday night
>on AMC.  I think it starts at 8:00 pm but check your local listings

I'd say that's definitely not off topic, especially compared to the Doctor 
Who stuff. :)

--Daniel
NP: Lowsunday - Elesgiem


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38678">
From: 


'dreamsector <Liondream@a...>' <Liondream@a...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 1, 2003  4:40
am
Subject:  Re: Poland


--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Andrew' <taoist.hermit1@v...> wrote:
> 
> Chris Franke is credited with using a Syntec custom digital drum 
computer
> and Simmons drum modules, though I'd suspect additional percussion 
probably
> comes from some of the other instruments listed. There are 
obviously
> samples in the drum break in the first piece, though those may be 
from the
> Syntec.
> 

Don't forget the Emulator, which is, after all - a sampler.


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38679">
From: 


'Jeffrey Au-Yeung' <coldwatercanyon@s...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 1, 2003  4:43
am
Subject:  Chinese New Year Quiz, Have FUN!


Hello all

Today is the 1st day of the Chinese New Year of the RAM, so, quiz time....

Naturally, I should ask a question about TD and China, or Chinese culture,
so here we go....

Question (1 question in 2 parts):

In the inlay of the Great Wall of China CD album, the top left corner of the
last page has 3 lines of Chinese words in the blue colour.

The question is: a) what do these sentences refer to, and b) where they come
from?

If you can answer the 1st part of this question, you should know also the
second part of the question.

The 1st person who submits the correct answer to the tadream list, will get
a TD-related VCD from me. He can choose 1 out of 3 of the following titles:

+ Video Dream Mixes
+ Risky Business
+ Firestarter

When I see the correct answer on the list I will announce who the winner is.
The deadline will be 1pm on 2003 Jan 8 Hong Kong time (sorry for not bother
to switch it to the Greenwich time)

Have fun!

Jeffrey


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38680">
From: 


'Jeffrey Au-Yeung' <coldwatercanyon@s...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 1, 2003  4:53
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Chinese New Year Quiz, Have FUN!


More hint to my question.....

The Chinese words are 3 sentences to read horizontally from left to right

Jeffrey


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38681">
From: 


'Emanuel Neto' <esvneto@a...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 1, 2003  5:12
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Tangerine Tree Volumn 1 for Sale


I am very angry and sad with this information. I got the address is:
site: www.sebododisco.com.br
Phone: (12) 221-5208.
Street Address: Rua Dr. Jorge Whinter, 244, Centro
TAUBATE, S.P. 12010150
BRAZIL
Address in gemm:
Home Page http://cdvdonline.gemm.com
E-Mail cdvdgemm@s...

I was quite concerned in function of just me and Gustavo here of Brazil we
be part of the list of the tangerine dream tree, my question is: how did
they get those CD? Be sure that we would never make that.
I will be sending an email the that store still today requesting
information. The interesting is that when you seek in the site the word
'tangerine dream', they inform that that item doesn't exist in stock, what I
don't understand is because he appears in the site of the www.gemm.com,
maybe they are only available through this site.
I suggest that you also send email the gemm questioning and requesting the
retreat of those item of the sale.

Link to gemm page:
http://www8.gemm.com/c/search.pl?list_begin_prev=101&list_end_prev=350&sid=3
60598147&key=88280&Go%252521.x=8&wild=tangerine+dream&Go%252521.y=8&sid=3605
98147&SHOW=SHOW&field=ARTIST+OR+TITLE&key=88280&SHOW=SHOW&list_howmany_str=N
EXT+1000

P.S. Sorry for my English

Emanuel S. V. Neto
Brazil


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Dean Mitchell' <deano.m@n...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 7:15 PM
Subject: [tadream] Tangerine Tree Volumn 1 for Sale


> I visited the site www.gemm.com and notice someone selling all of the TT1
for £17.00 to £35.00. I think this is very worrying and hope Td do not stop
this project because of it. I think we must stress to all our members that
this project is only going to work if we adhere to the rules that no money
changes hands for these products.
>
> Dean
>
> Ps I can not wait until the TT3 are made available, the covers are great.
Thanks to all those working behind the scenes to make this project work.
Well done!!!
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>


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2/1/2003


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38682">
From: 


Robert Grabowsky <hghlndr@t...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 1, 2003  5:36
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Tangerine Tree Volumn 1 for Sale


I have already sent an e-mail to this person. Here it is:

This is in reference to the Tangerine Tree CD's that you have listed on
your site thru Gemm.com. I STRONGLY urge you to remove them and not sell
them. These were created by fans with the permission of Tangerine Dream
under the conditions that they are not to be sold. By you selling them you
are causing us to lose the ability to create more of these sets and causing
us legal problems with Tangerine Dream. By the way, Tangerine Dream (TDI
Inc.) has been informed of what you are doing and I would not be surprised
if they pursue legal actions against you and your company.
So please remove these CD's from your site and do NOT sell them.
Thank You,
Robert Grabowsky a devoted Tangerine Dream Fan


At 03:12 AM 2/1/03 -0200, you wrote:
>I am very angry and sad with this information. I got the address is:
>site: www.sebododisco.com.br
>Phone: (12) 221-5208.
>Street Address: Rua Dr. Jorge Whinter, 244, Centro
>TAUBATE, S.P. 12010150
>BRAZIL
>Address in gemm:
>Home Page http://cdvdonline.gemm.com
> E-Mail cdvdgemm@s...
>
>I was quite concerned in function of just me and Gustavo here of Brazil we
>be part of the list of the tangerine dream tree, my question is: how did
>they get those CD? Be sure that we would never make that.
>I will be sending an email the that store still today requesting
>information. The interesting is that when you seek in the site the word
>'tangerine dream', they inform that that item doesn't exist in stock, what I
>don't understand is because he appears in the site of the www.gemm.com,
>maybe they are only available through this site.
>I suggest that you also send email the gemm questioning and requesting the
>retreat of those item of the sale.
>
>Link to gemm page:
>http://www8.gemm.com/c/search.pl?list_begin_prev=101&list_end_prev=350&sid=3
>60598147&key=88280&Go%252521.x=8&wild=tangerine+dream&Go%252521.y=8&sid=3605
>98147&SHOW=SHOW&field=ARTIST+OR+TITLE&key=88280&SHOW=SHOW&list_howmany_str=N
>EXT+1000
>
>P.S. Sorry for my English
>
>Emanuel S. V. Neto
>Brazil
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: 'Dean Mitchell' <deano.m@n...>
>To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 7:15 PM
>Subject: [tadream] Tangerine Tree Volumn 1 for Sale
>
>
>> I visited the site www.gemm.com and notice someone selling all of the TT1
>for £17.00 to £35.00. I think this is very worrying and hope Td do not stop
>this project because of it. I think we must stress to all our members that
>this project is only going to work if we adhere to the rules that no money
>changes hands for these products.
>>
>> Dean
>>
>> Ps I can not wait until the TT3 are made available, the covers are great.
>Thanks to all those working behind the scenes to make this project work.
>Well done!!!
>>
>>
>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------_-
>> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>> ----------------------------------------------------_-
>> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
>> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>>
>> Tangerine Tree info at
>> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>>
>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>>
>>
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------_-
>To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com 
>----------------------------------------------------_-
>Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
>http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
>Tangerine Tree info at
>http://www.tadream.net/tree 
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 
>
>
>

	
</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38683">
From: 


'Debra Wilson' <the_singing_goat@a...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 1, 2003  4:45
am
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Chinese New Year Quiz, Have FUN!


Stop! Halt! Ram? I thought it was the year of the Goat?

Debra Wilson
Billy-Bob's Boers, Percentage Meat Goats in SoCal
http://home.att.net/~billybobsboers/index.html
AudioGalaxy, For All Your P2P Needs
http://home.att.net/~audiogalaxy/index.html


-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffrey Au-Yeung [mailto:coldwatercanyon@s...]
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 8:44 PM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] Chinese New Year Quiz, Have FUN!


Hello all

Today is the 1st day of the Chinese New Year of the RAM, so, quiz time....


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38684">
From: 


'Admin' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 1, 2003  6:46
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Tangerine Tree Volumn 1 for Sale


perhaps evil is a better word

;-)

dale

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Jorge Figueiredo' <jorgefig@e...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Tangerine Tree Volumn 1 for Sale


> There must be some pretty good 'techie' guys on this list. ;-)
> As soon as I posted the info about the seller the website became
> unreachable...
>
> Jorge Figueiredo
>
> On 2/1/2003 2:12 AM, Robert Grabowsky wrote:
> > Here is what I know about gemm.com:
> >
> > It is for lack of a better word a co-op to help small music stores sell
the
> > music that they have. Each seller is responsible for what they sell.
> >
> > So don't go getting crazy on gemm.com. Contact the seller not gemm.com
> >
> > However I fear this is to late as I could not log on to gemm.com
> >
> > There are 100's of sellers that peddle their wares thru gemm.
> >
> > THE HIGHLANDER
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> >
> > Tangerine Tree info at
> > http://www.tadream.net/tree
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
> > .
> >
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38685">
From: 


'Admin' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 1, 2003  6:52
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Tangerine Tree Volumn 1 for Sale


Well I hope they remove it. It might turn into a boot leg for sale set on
ebay. I been chekcing ebay lately for stuff like that.

dale


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38686">
From: 


'Marcel Engels' <mengels@w...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 1, 2003  8:36
am
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Re: Wracajac do Polski


> From: Liondream@a... [mailto:Liondream@a...] 
> 
> Back then, I think the TR707s were the 'in' thing... maybe 
> it's something along those lines... TR707, DMX, SP12 (or did 
> that come later?)...
> 
> RX5 came a bit later... I remember seeing that on the 
> LiveMiles cover photo.

I remember reading in the booklet that they used
a TR808 and some oberheims?
I believe Johannes had the 808.

Marcel
http://home.wanadoo.nl/mengels
mengels@w...


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38687">
From: 
'Matthew Stringer' <qube@f...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 1, 2003  9:42
am
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Astoria gig - more details


I hope this is not more techno stuff but the re-recorded Melrose type of
thing.


P.S.: 'old friends in a different guise'...could this be a preview of
Dream Mixes 4? ;-)


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38688">
From: 
Klaus Beschorner <klaus@c...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 1, 2003  11:48
am
Subject:  Tangerine Tree Volumn 1 for Sale


Hi all,
while I fully understand the outrage about these CDRs being _offered_
on gemm.com , I can hardly believe that anything will actually be
_sold_ through this portal. The prices asked for any TD material
are so ridiculously high, anyone who buys there needs his head
examined.

Or, are people on this list actually buying run-off-the-mill
second hand LPs there for over 15$ ?? If so, please let me know,
then it's time to put my own offers up there ;-) ;-)

best regards,
klaus


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38689">
From: 


'Andrew' <taoist.hermit1@v...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 1, 2003  2:54
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Wracajac do Polski


For some reason there are two titles for this thread. It's also running as
Re: Poland.

Marcel, you're absolutely right about the TR808 and the Oberheim modules,
which were used by Johannes and Edgar respectively, in addition to the stuff
used by Chris.


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Marcel Engels' <mengels@w...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 8:36 AM
Subject: RE: [tadream] Re: Wracajac do Polski


> I remember reading in the booklet that they used
> a TR808 and some oberheims?
> I believe Johannes had the 808.
>
> Marcel


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38690">
From: 


'Pergamon' <pergamon@g...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 1, 2003  3:33
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] nOT: Dr Who indeed, was H2G2 talk


Have just had a listen to the old KLF-version of Dr.
Who....................couldn't remember it....

Now I know why I through that record out of a window on the top floor of a
hotel, here in Copenhagen......................It sucked and it still
sucks......

Jan


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<MESSAGE index="38691">
From: 


'Fred Yargui' <fredericyargui@w...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 1, 2003  3:54
pm
Subject:  another strange thing


Hello, I found this by surfing...

http://www.cd-rom.shop.by/8890.html

What do you think it is ?

Best Regards,

Fred


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38692">
From: 


Robert Grabowsky <hghlndr@t...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 1, 2003  4:00
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] another strange thing


It's just a large MP3 collection.

PART 1 
- DJ DADO 'Solar Wind' 
- VANGELIS 'Titles' 
- JAPAN 'Canton' 
- DAVID GILMOR 'Raise my rent' 
- FRANK DUVAL 'Dream-machine' 
- SPACE'Final signal' 
- KLAUS SCHULZE 'Georg traki' 
- RELAXON 'In the beginning' 
- ROEDELIUS 'Asche' 
- RICK WAKEMAN 'Summertime' 
- ANDI SLAVIK 'Indian spirits' 
- JMJ 'Chronologir part 5' 
- JMJ 'The last rumba' 
- KITARO'Sundance' 
AND MORE.. 

PART 2 
- DAO DEZI 'Hebrides' 
- LASERDANCE -Moon dusk' 
- SAINT-PREUX 'cantique- 
- SACRED SPIRIT 'Ya-na-hana' 
- KITARO 'Dream of chant' 
- DAO DEZI 'An tri breur' 
- JMJ 'Woolloomooloo' 
- FRANK DUVAL 'Love- 
- SAINT-PREUX 'Priere' 
- DAO DEZI '11.11.93' 
- KITARO 'The Field' 
- JMJ 'Calypso' 
- VANGELIS 'Chung Kuo' VANGELIS 'Pulstar' 
AND MORE.. 

PART 3 
- SKY 'Masquerade' 
- VANGELIS 'Pulstar1 
- SPACE 'Tango in space' 
- LETFIELD 'Space Shanty' 
- CUSCO'Didjeridoo' 
- JMJ 'Calypso part 3' 
- SKY 'Toccata' 
- OULTRAVOX 'Vienna' 
- VANGELIS 'Spiral' 
- KITARO 'Moondance' 
- VANGELIS 'O'clock' 
- VANGELIS 'Deliverance' 
- KITARO 'In the Beginning' 
- VANGELIS'Alpha' 
AND MORE... 

PART 4 
- TOTO 'Dune Main title' 
- LEFTFIELD 'Storm 3000' 
- PERU 'Africa' 
- CUSCO'Montezuma' 
- SKY 'Westway 
- VANGELIS 'Hispanola' 
- MARK HARTMAN 'Twin peaks' 
- KITARO 'Dance of sarasvati' 
- YANNI 'The magus' 
- JMJ 'Zoolookogie' 
- KRAFTWERK 'Spacelab' 
- SPACE 'Secret dream' 
- SKY'Ride of the valkyries' 
- TANGERINE DREAM 'Tangram' 
AND MORE...


At 04:54 PM 2/1/03 +0100, you wrote:
>Hello, I found this by surfing...
>
>http://www.cd-rom.shop.by/8890.html
>
>What do you think it is ?
>
>Best Regards,
>
>Fred


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38693">
From: 


'Pergamon' <pergamon@g...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 1, 2003  3:56
pm
Subject:  OT Columbia


Have just heard the tragic news about the spaceshuttle Columbia and its
crew. Thoughts goes to crew and familys.

Jan


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38694">
From: 


'Admin' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 1, 2003  4:33
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Wracajac do Polski


I only have the cd so I don't have the eq. list.
There are a lot of eq. here that could and most likely be, playing some or
all the parts. I am leaning toward Chris playing due to the sounds. He also
did the theme to 'The Rangers' (Babylon 5 spin off). There is a certain
sound I want to use that he uses in both and others. I am going to dig a bit
more to cross reference the eq. a bit.

Dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Marcel Engels' <mengels@w...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 12:36 AM
Subject: RE: [tadream] Re: Wracajac do Polski


> > From: Liondream@a... [mailto:Liondream@a...]
> >
> > Back then, I think the TR707s were the 'in' thing... maybe
> > it's something along those lines... TR707, DMX, SP12 (or did
> > that come later?)...
> >
> > RX5 came a bit later... I remember seeing that on the
> > LiveMiles cover photo.
>
> I remember reading in the booklet that they used
> a TR808 and some oberheims?
> I believe Johannes had the 808.
>
> Marcel
> http://home.wanadoo.nl/mengels
> mengels@w...
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38695">
From: 


'Emanuel Neto' <esvneto@a...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 1, 2003  4:46
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] another strange thing


I think the Tangerine Dream should know this site, it seems that they are
recordings 'original' disks in the form MP3 and CDr, if that, is not with
authorization of the TD, it is crime.......

To verify the list of disks, has a link that I found inside of the site:
http://www.jam.by/cgi-bin/search.cgi?text=Tangerine Dream
There I found some original CDs (or CD-r ?) as, Strastosfear, Cyclone, Force
Majeure, Eletronic Meditation, Tyger, Optical Race and many others.

Emanuel Neto
Brazil

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Robert Grabowsky' <hghlndr@t...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] another strange thing


> It's just a large MP3 collection.
>
> PART 1
> - DJ DADO 'Solar Wind'
> - VANGELIS 'Titles'
> - JAPAN 'Canton'
> - DAVID GILMOR 'Raise my rent'
> - FRANK DUVAL 'Dream-machine'
> - SPACE'Final signal'
> - KLAUS SCHULZE 'Georg traki'
> - RELAXON 'In the beginning'
> - ROEDELIUS 'Asche'
> - RICK WAKEMAN 'Summertime'
> - ANDI SLAVIK 'Indian spirits'
> - JMJ 'Chronologir part 5'
> - JMJ 'The last rumba'
> - KITARO'Sundance'
> AND MORE..
>
> PART 2
> - DAO DEZI 'Hebrides'
> - LASERDANCE -Moon dusk'
> - SAINT-PREUX 'cantique-
> - SACRED SPIRIT 'Ya-na-hana'
> - KITARO 'Dream of chant'
> - DAO DEZI 'An tri breur'
> - JMJ 'Woolloomooloo'
> - FRANK DUVAL 'Love-
> - SAINT-PREUX 'Priere'
> - DAO DEZI '11.11.93'
> - KITARO 'The Field'
> - JMJ 'Calypso'
> - VANGELIS 'Chung Kuo' VANGELIS 'Pulstar'
> AND MORE..
>
> PART 3
> - SKY 'Masquerade'
> - VANGELIS 'Pulstar1
> - SPACE 'Tango in space'
> - LETFIELD 'Space Shanty'
> - CUSCO'Didjeridoo'
> - JMJ 'Calypso part 3'
> - SKY 'Toccata'
> - OULTRAVOX 'Vienna'
> - VANGELIS 'Spiral'
> - KITARO 'Moondance'
> - VANGELIS 'O'clock'
> - VANGELIS 'Deliverance'
> - KITARO 'In the Beginning'
> - VANGELIS'Alpha'
> AND MORE...
>
> PART 4
> - TOTO 'Dune Main title'
> - LEFTFIELD 'Storm 3000'
> - PERU 'Africa'
> - CUSCO'Montezuma'
> - SKY 'Westway
> - VANGELIS 'Hispanola'
> - MARK HARTMAN 'Twin peaks'
> - KITARO 'Dance of sarasvati'
> - YANNI 'The magus'
> - JMJ 'Zoolookogie'
> - KRAFTWERK 'Spacelab'
> - SPACE 'Secret dream'
> - SKY'Ride of the valkyries'
> - TANGERINE DREAM 'Tangram'
> AND MORE...
>
>
>
> At 04:54 PM 2/1/03 +0100, you wrote:
> >Hello, I found this by surfing...
> >
> >http://www.cd-rom.shop.by/8890.html
> >
> >What do you think it is ?
> >
> >Best Regards,
> >
> >Fred
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38696">
From: 


quarlie@a... 
Date:  Sat Feb 1, 2003  5:10
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] nOT: Dr Who indeed, was H2G2 talk


pergamon@g... wrote:

> Have just had a listen to the old KLF-version of Dr.
>Who....................couldn't remember it....
>
>Now I know why I through that record out of a window on the top floor of a
>hotel, here in Copenhagen......................It sucked and it still
>sucks......

Come on, man, you're taking it too seriously. It's supposed to be funny. It's 
the KLF after all.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38697">
From: 


'Fred Yargui' <fredericyargui@w...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 1, 2003  5:29
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] another strange thing


Hi again,

As I can't read cyrillic, I don't understand the exact purpose of the site.
It seems that you can buy only a track in mp3 format... Are there other
sites like that (buy a single track instead of entire album) and are they
legal ?

Best Regards,

Fred

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Emanuel Neto' <esvneto@a...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] another strange thing


> I think the Tangerine Dream should know this site, it seems that they are
> recordings 'original' disks in the form MP3 and CDr, if that, is not with
> authorization of the TD, it is crime.......
>
> To verify the list of disks, has a link that I found inside of the site:
> http://www.jam.by/cgi-bin/search.cgi?text=Tangerine Dream
> There I found some original CDs (or CD-r ?) as, Strastosfear, Cyclone,
Force
> Majeure, Eletronic Meditation, Tyger, Optical Race and many others.
>
> Emanuel Neto
> Brazil
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Robert Grabowsky' <hghlndr@t...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 2:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [tadream] another strange thing
>
>
> > It's just a large MP3 collection.
> >
> > PART 1
> > - DJ DADO 'Solar Wind'
> > - VANGELIS 'Titles'
> > - JAPAN 'Canton'
> > - DAVID GILMOR 'Raise my rent'
> > - FRANK DUVAL 'Dream-machine'
> > - SPACE'Final signal'
> > - KLAUS SCHULZE 'Georg traki'
> > - RELAXON 'In the beginning'
> > - ROEDELIUS 'Asche'
> > - RICK WAKEMAN 'Summertime'
> > - ANDI SLAVIK 'Indian spirits'
> > - JMJ 'Chronologir part 5'
> > - JMJ 'The last rumba'
> > - KITARO'Sundance'
> > AND MORE..
> >
> > PART 2
> > - DAO DEZI 'Hebrides'
> > - LASERDANCE -Moon dusk'
> > - SAINT-PREUX 'cantique-
> > - SACRED SPIRIT 'Ya-na-hana'
> > - KITARO 'Dream of chant'
> > - DAO DEZI 'An tri breur'
> > - JMJ 'Woolloomooloo'
> > - FRANK DUVAL 'Love-
> > - SAINT-PREUX 'Priere'
> > - DAO DEZI '11.11.93'
> > - KITARO 'The Field'
> > - JMJ 'Calypso'
> > - VANGELIS 'Chung Kuo' VANGELIS 'Pulstar'
> > AND MORE..
> >
> > PART 3
> > - SKY 'Masquerade'
> > - VANGELIS 'Pulstar1
> > - SPACE 'Tango in space'
> > - LETFIELD 'Space Shanty'
> > - CUSCO'Didjeridoo'
> > - JMJ 'Calypso part 3'
> > - SKY 'Toccata'
> > - OULTRAVOX 'Vienna'
> > - VANGELIS 'Spiral'
> > - KITARO 'Moondance'
> > - VANGELIS 'O'clock'
> > - VANGELIS 'Deliverance'
> > - KITARO 'In the Beginning'
> > - VANGELIS'Alpha'
> > AND MORE...
> >
> > PART 4
> > - TOTO 'Dune Main title'
> > - LEFTFIELD 'Storm 3000'
> > - PERU 'Africa'
> > - CUSCO'Montezuma'
> > - SKY 'Westway
> > - VANGELIS 'Hispanola'
> > - MARK HARTMAN 'Twin peaks'
> > - KITARO 'Dance of sarasvati'
> > - YANNI 'The magus'
> > - JMJ 'Zoolookogie'
> > - KRAFTWERK 'Spacelab'
> > - SPACE 'Secret dream'
> > - SKY'Ride of the valkyries'
> > - TANGERINE DREAM 'Tangram'
> > AND MORE...
> >
> >
> >
> > At 04:54 PM 2/1/03 +0100, you wrote:
> > >Hello, I found this by surfing...
> > >
> > >http://www.cd-rom.shop.by/8890.html
> > >
> > >What do you think it is ?
> > >
> > >Best Regards,
> > >
> > >Fred
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> >
> > Tangerine Tree info at
> > http://www.tadream.net/tree
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38698">
From: 


'Pergamon' <pergamon@g...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 1, 2003  5:35
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] nOT: Dr Who indeed, was H2G2 talk


hehe..........believe me, it was actually funny to throw the record out the
window............=O)

Jan

----- Original Message -----
From: <quarlie@a...>
Subject: Re: [tadream] nOT: Dr Who indeed, was H2G2 talk
> Come on, man, you're taking it too seriously. It's supposed to be funny.
It's
> the KLF after all.


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38699">
From: 


quarlie@a... 
Date:  Sat Feb 1, 2003  6:09
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] another strange thing


fredericyargui@w... wrote:

>As I can't read cyrillic, I don't understand the exact purpose of the site.
>It seems that you can buy only a track in mp3 format... Are there other
>sites like that (buy a single track instead of entire album) and are they
>legal ?

There's EMusic (www.emusic.com), which lets you legally download music from 
various independent labels for a monthly subscription fee. They have only one 
TD track, 'Sunrise in the Third System.'

Whether the other site in Cyrillic is legal, I have no idea.

--Daniel
NP: Dubstar - The Self Same Thing


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38700">
From: 


Paul Fellows <pfellows@c...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 1, 2003  6:24
pm
Subject:  [tadream] chat


Hi all,

How about an on-line chat about the rapidly approaching concert? IRC?

Paul


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38701">
From: 


'Paul Dryden' <paulus.d@f...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 1, 2003  6:52
pm
Subject:  Doctor Who & Electronic Soundmaker


I think with EM, you have a definate tie-in with Sci-fi-as the latest post
shows. Most sci-fi have great EM, going back to the 50's, such as Forbiden
Planet. 

With DW came the Radiophonic Workshop, a BBC run department just for producing
EM for Tv and Radio.

Getting back to TD, the newish Doctor Who film (1996) would have been great
with a TD or Chris Franke soundtrack don't you think!!

Changing subject now....
Question for Admin......

I found in my collection the 'Electronic Soundmaker & Computer Music'
magazine's cassette, the one with Tangerine Dream on the cover. The mag has bit
the dust unfortunetly but the tape is OK.
Is it worth placing in the files on Yahoo group or will copyright block me?
Not the whole thing, we all have No man's land, but the breakdown of instrument
piece.
Paulus.d


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38702">
From: 


'Paul Dryden' <paulus.d@f...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 1, 2003  7:04
pm
Subject:  Shuttle news


From what I read here , something has happened to Columbia while comming in to
land.
My thoughts and love go to all who are affected by this...
Paulus.d


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38703">
From: 


'vic rek' <tangerinedream@a...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 1, 2003  8:58
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] another strange thing


Ha! I forgot that I had this release.
The title is translated (loosely) as 'Music for Curing Impotence and Kidney
Stones' :-)
And as Bob said, it's just another Russian bootleg MP3 compilation.
Vic

----- Original Message -----
From: Fred Yargui <fredericyargui@w...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 10:54 AM
Subject: [tadream] another strange thing


> Hello, I found this by surfing...
>
> http://www.cd-rom.shop.by/8890.html
>
> What do you think it is ?
>


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38704">
<YAHOOARCHIVE groupname="tadream">
<MESSAGE index="38704">
From: 


'Colin Jouxson <convention24@y...>' <convention24@y...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 1, 2003  10:12
pm
Subject:  Re: Tangerine Tree Volumn 1 for Sale


--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Dean Mitchell' <deano.m@n...> wrote:
> I visited the site www.gemm.com and notice someone selling all of 
the TT1 for £17.00 to £35.00. I think this is very worrying and hope 
Td do not stop this project because of it. I think we must stress to 
all our members that this project is only going to work if we adhere 
to the rules that no money changes hands for these products.
> 
> Dean
> 
> Ps I can not wait until the TT3 are made available, the covers are 
great. Thanks to all those working behind the scenes to make this 
project work. Well done!!! 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
The B#S%%%s ought to be Horsewipped,how can these LOWLIFES offend the 
hard work put into this project by HH and others,complete B#%*_$#


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2/2/2003


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38705">
From: 


Jonathan Holt <plantpot_73@y...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 1, 2003  11:59
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Tangerine Tree Volumn 1 for Sale


I'll second the b*****ds comment, for sure. It's
amazing how some thoughtless persons greed could
jeopordise the Tree and this priviledged opportunity
we have to listen to the greatest electronic music
never released.

I'd be interested in what Martin K and Heiko H have to
say about this.

Jonnyboy.

--- 'Colin Jouxson <convention24@y...>'
<convention24@y...> wrote: > --- In
tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Dean Mitchell'
> <deano.m@n...> wrote:
> > I visited the site www.gemm.com and notice someone
> selling all of 
> the TT1 for £17.00 to £35.00. I think this is very
> worrying and hope 
> Td do not stop this project because of it. I think
> we must stress to 
> all our members that this project is only going to
> work if we adhere 
> to the rules that no money changes hands for these
> products.
> > 
> > Dean
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> The B#S%%%s ought to be Horsewipped,how can these
> LOWLIFES offend the 
> hard work put into this project by HH and
> others,complete B#%*_$#


______________________________________________________________________ 
Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca

	
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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38706">
From: 


Falcon <falcon@r...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 2, 2003  12:14
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Tangerine Tree Volumn 1 for Sale


At 18:59 01.02.2003 -0500, you wrote:
>I'll second the b*****ds comment, for sure. It's
>amazing how some thoughtless persons greed could
>jeopordise the Tree and this priviledged opportunity
>we have to listen to the greatest electronic music
>never released.

The good point on this 'incident' is : It showes, that we all keep an eye 
open for such people, risking the tree project, and this shows, how much we 
really care about the TT. I hope, Tadream management notices that and does 
not shut down the tree project.
Oh, and i really hope, they'll file a lawsuit against the guy (unlikely, 
but never give up hope)

Ramon

ps : my condolence goes to the families and relatives of the victims of the 
Colombia disaster. 


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38707">
From: 


Chris Richards <kohntarkosz@y...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 2, 2003  3:45
am
Subject:  Re: Dr. Who


<<Which Romana, there were two of them, remember?

Romana no.2 apparently the Dr. (Tom Baker) liked 
very much too; in fact, enough that he even 
married her.>>

Hmm, I don't know. I guess I kinda like the
second Romana a bit more. Interesting point,
though, because apart from The Doctor himself, I
think Romana was the only Timelord who
regenerated during the course of the show's run.
Or at the very least, she was the only one who
changed her appearance when she regenerated. I
know The Master was played by at least two
different actors (as I recall, the actor who
played during the Jon Pertwee era, Roger Delgado,
passed away sometime during the mid 70's), but
the appearance was always more or less the same,
with the same style beard and mustache. 


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38708">
<YAHOOARCHIVE groupname="tadream">
<MESSAGE index="38708">
From: 


Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 1, 2003  8:40
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] nOT: Dr Who indeed, was H2G2 talk


I told you the Orbital version was better. The only
good thing about the KLF is the Darlek's saying
'Ex-terminate.'

Also, I am planning a Dr. Who Special real soon. The
David Arnold is a bit over the top with the Delaware
version being the best, but the best of the best, is
the new & improved 'Stereo' version cobbled together
by Mark Ayers. 

Wade
--- Pergamon <pergamon@g...> wrote:
> Have just had a listen to the old KLF-version of Dr.
> Who....................couldn't remember it....
> 
> Now I know why I through that record out of a window
> on the top floor of a
> hotel, here in Copenhagen......................It
> sucked and it still
> sucks......
> 
> Jan
> 
> 
>
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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38709">
From: 


Stefan Brenner <baron_de_ley@y...> 
Date:  Thu Jan 30, 2003  5:08
pm
Subject:  Alexander Square


Hi to all you out there!!!

I have been TD-fan since 1980... at the age of 10
years old :)

i joind this group in the end of 2002...

I have one ?, 
I have been wondering about this sinc 1989

Can anyone tell me... If you look on the paper in the 
Alexander Square cd-singel. It says Lyrics and
music...
I have never heard someone sing on that cd-singel or 
the '12 inch-singel'

Is´t a print error ????

Pleas tell me

regards Stefan

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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38710">
From: 


'obiwankenomi1958 <obiwankenomi@h...>' <obiwankenomi@h...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 1, 2003  3:18
pm
Subject:  Re: TT3 Covers available for download now!


Hi Guys and Girls,

Perhaps needless to say, but I think our friends have done a great 
job again on the covers for TT3.
I got all 3 TT's standing on a bookshelf and they look really 
professional. Thanks again for the great job.

Greetings from Haolland from Bert.


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38711">
From: 


'Paul Dryden' <paulus.d@f...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 2, 2003  3:24
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Tangerine Tree Volumn 1 for Sale


I'll third it!!!!!
the point is you DONT pay for it.......
Paulus.d
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Jonathan Holt' <plantpot_73@y...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 11:59 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Tangerine Tree Volumn 1 for Sale


> I'll second the b*****ds comment, for sure. It's
> amazing how some thoughtless persons greed could
> jeopordise the Tree and this priviledged opportunity
> we have to listen to the greatest electronic music
> never released.
>
> I'd be interested in what Martin K and Heiko H have to
> say about this.
>
> Jonnyboy.
>
> --- 'Colin Jouxson <convention24@y...>'
> <convention24@y...> wrote: > --- In
> tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Dean Mitchell'
> > <deano.m@n...> wrote:
> > > I visited the site www.gemm.com and notice someone
> > selling all of
> > the TT1 for £17.00 to £35.00. I think this is very
> > worrying and hope
> > Td do not stop this project because of it. I think
> > we must stress to
> > all our members that this project is only going to
> > work if we adhere
> > to the rules that no money changes hands for these
> > products.
> > >
> > > Dean
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
> > The B#S%%%s ought to be Horsewipped,how can these
> > LOWLIFES offend the
> > hard work put into this project by HH and
> > others,complete B#%*_$#
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
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>
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> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38712">
<YAHOOARCHIVE groupname="tadream">
<MESSAGE index="38712">
From: 


'Paul Dryden' <paulus.d@f...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 2, 2003  3:26
pm
Subject:  


Question for list owner(Joe)

I found in my collection the 'Electronic Soundmaker & Computer Music'
magazine's cassette, the one with Tangerine Dream on the cover. The mag has bit
the dust unfortunetly but the tape is OK.
Is it worth placing in the files on Yahoo group or will copyright block me?
Not the whole thing, we all have No man's land, but the breakdown of instrument
piece.
Paulus.d


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38713">
From: 


'Paul Dryden' <paulus.d@f...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 2, 2003  3:30
pm
Subject:  Electronic Soundmaker Issue:ATTENTION Joe


I have a recording of the No man's land piece from the Electronic soundmaker &
computer music mag's cassette.
I would like to place it in the yahoo files section..
Will this create any problems for anyone?
PAulus.d


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38714">
From: 


'Admin' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 2, 2003  3:52
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] nOT: Dr Who indeed, was H2G2 talk


Well Wade, keep me informed. If it's on the web I will be able to hear it.

It gets lonely out here on the west coast.

dale

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Wade Gordon' <mindvoyager1@y...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] nOT: Dr Who indeed, was H2G2 talk


> I told you the Orbital version was better. The only
> good thing about the KLF is the Darlek's saying
> 'Ex-terminate.'
>
> Also, I am planning a Dr. Who Special real soon. The
> David Arnold is a bit over the top with the Delaware
> version being the best, but the best of the best, is
> the new & improved 'Stereo' version cobbled together
> by Mark Ayers.
>
> Wade
> --- Pergamon <pergamon@g...> wrote:
> > Have just had a listen to the old KLF-version of Dr.
> > Who....................couldn't remember it....
> >
> > Now I know why I through that record out of a window
> > on the top floor of a
> > hotel, here in Copenhagen......................It
> > sucked and it still
> > sucks......
> >
> > Jan
> >
> >
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > To unsubscribe:
> > mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> >
> > Tangerine Tree info at
> > http://www.tadream.net/tree
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
>
>
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> ----------------------------------------------------_-
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> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38715">
From: 


'Admin' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 2, 2003  3:54
pm
Subject:  Possible new CD


Perhaps it's too soon, but some of the list does a lot of music. Maybe we
could create a memorable CD for the Colombia? Similar to the Dream tree?

Dale


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2/2/2003


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2/2/2003


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38716">
<YAHOOARCHIVE groupname="tadream">
<MESSAGE index="38716">
From: 


'Robert Asmus' <asmus0324@c...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 2, 2003  4:11
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Possible new CD


Yes I am for that. And I hope the other members are up for it
As well. I think we should pick the best TD songs that will 
Best show our heart felt sorrow for the family members of the
Columbia Crew. I also think that we should offer this compilation
To the family members first. If anybody thinks this is the correct
Passionate thing to do please respond.

Robert Asmus


-----Original Message-----
From: Admin [mailto:admin@k...] 
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 10:55 AM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] Possible new CD

Perhaps it's too soon, but some of the list does a lot of music. Maybe
we
could create a memorable CD for the Colombia? Similar to the Dream tree?

Dale


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38717">
From: 


'Robert Asmus' <asmus0324@c...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 2, 2003  4:41
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Possible new CD


Let's do it. I have already been in contact with NASA. I have the
address where we can mail the music to. I think this is the right thing
to do for the earth last cowboys. The astronauts put their lives on the
line every time they go up. Let's do something for the family members
and the employee's of NASA to show that there are people that care about
the sacrifices that some people make.

Robert Asmus

-----Original Message-----
From: Admin [mailto:admin@k...] 
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 10:55 AM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] Possible new CD

Perhaps it's too soon, but some of the list does a lot of music. Maybe
we
could create a memorable CD for the Colombia? Similar to the Dream tree?

Dale


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Tangerine Tree info at
http://www.tadream.net/tree 

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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38718">
From: 


'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 2, 2003  5:26
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream]


>Question for list owner(Joe)
>
>I found in my collection the 'Electronic Soundmaker & Computer Music' 
>magazine's cassette, the one with Tangerine Dream on the cover. The mag has 
>bit the dust unfortunetly but the tape is OK.
>Is it worth placing in the files on Yahoo group or will copyright block me?
>Not the whole thing, we all have No man's land, but the breakdown of 
>instrument piece.
>Paulus.d


Isn't this already to be found at the end of Electronic Orgy?

John Vertical

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<MESSAGE index="38719">
From: 


'Robert Asmus' <asmus0324@c...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 2, 2003  5:46
pm
Subject:  Tangerine Dream Tree Chat Channel


I have just created a registered chat channel for the Members of the
Tangerine Dream Tree. It is on IRC on the P2Pchat network. To connect
her is the network info: irc.p2pchat.net. Hope to see you there. This
is a place where we can talk live and not have to wait for email
responses.


Robert Asmus


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


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 Admin 
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 Sun 
2/2/2003


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 Re: Tangerine Dream Tree Chat Channel

 Robert Asmus 
 plastics67

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2/2/2003


  4 KB 


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 Re: Tangerine Dream Tree Chat Channel

 Admin 
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2/2/2003


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38720">
From: 


'Admin' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 2, 2003  5:49
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Tangerine Dream Tree Chat Channel


There are a few other chat sites up and running too.
We should gather the intel on these and place on the main yahoo site as
reference for everyone.
I do pop in once in a while. It always is a fun experience.

Dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Robert Asmus' <asmus0324@c...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 9:46 AM
Subject: [tadream] Tangerine Dream Tree Chat Channel


> I have just created a registered chat channel for the Members of the
> Tangerine Dream Tree. It is on IRC on the P2Pchat network. To connect
> her is the network info: irc.p2pchat.net. Hope to see you there. This
> is a place where we can talk live and not have to wait for email
> responses.
>
>
>
> Robert Asmus
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38721">
From: 


'Admin' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 2, 2003  5:51
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Tangerine Dream Tree Chat Channel


Robert
Contact me offlist. I have a offlist (other list post) that I am sure you
might want to check out.

dale

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Robert Asmus' <asmus0324@c...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 9:46 AM
Subject: [tadream] Tangerine Dream Tree Chat Channel


> I have just created a registered chat channel for the Members of the
> Tangerine Dream Tree. It is on IRC on the P2Pchat network. To connect
> her is the network info: irc.p2pchat.net. Hope to see you there. This
> is a place where we can talk live and not have to wait for email
> responses.
>
>
>
> Robert Asmus
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38722">
From: 


'Robert Asmus' <asmus0324@c...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 2, 2003  5:52
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Tangerine Dream Tree Chat Channel


Sounds good Dale


-----Original Message-----
From: Admin [mailto:admin@k...] 
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 12:50 PM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tadream] Tangerine Dream Tree Chat Channel

There are a few other chat sites up and running too.
We should gather the intel on these and place on the main yahoo site as
reference for everyone.
I do pop in once in a while. It always is a fun experience.

Dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Robert Asmus' <asmus0324@c...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 9:46 AM
Subject: [tadream] Tangerine Dream Tree Chat Channel


> I have just created a registered chat channel for the Members of the
> Tangerine Dream Tree. It is on IRC on the P2Pchat network. To
connect
> her is the network info: irc.p2pchat.net. Hope to see you there.
This
> is a place where we can talk live and not have to wait for email
> responses.
>
>
>
> Robert Asmus
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


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Tangerine Tree info at
http://www.tadream.net/tree 

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38723">
From: 


'Robert Asmus' <asmus0324@c...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 2, 2003  5:54
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Tangerine Dream Tree Chat Channel


Sorry forgot the channel is TD-Tree


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Asmus [mailto:asmus0324@c...] 
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 12:46 PM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] Tangerine Dream Tree Chat Channel

I have just created a registered chat channel for the Members of the
Tangerine Dream Tree. It is on IRC on the P2Pchat network. To connect
her is the network info: irc.p2pchat.net. Hope to see you there. This
is a place where we can talk live and not have to wait for email
responses.


Robert Asmus


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


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Tangerine Tree info at
http://www.tadream.net/tree 

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38724">
From: 


Morgan Feldon <feldon@f...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 2, 2003  6:11
pm
Subject:  Tangerine Dream IRC


>Robert Asmus said:
>
>I have just created a registered chat channel for the Members of the
>Tangerine Dream Tree. It is on IRC on the P2Pchat network. To connect
>her is the network info: irc.p2pchat.net. Hope to see you there. This
>is a place where we can talk live and not have to wait for email
>responses.

No offense, but we already have a registered IRC chat channel for the 
Tangerine Dream list on irc.sorcery.net in #tadream.

If you download this small spyware-free program and install it, then open 
the folder it creates and double-click on the color 'mIRC' program, you 
will automatically be brought into the chatroom.

www.feldoncentral.com/tddisc/tadreamIRC.exe

The ease of getting into this chatroom has greatly contributed to its 
popularity. On Friday afternoon/evenings, we have had 10 people in the chat 
at one time. Please don't be upset if you join in the middle of the day and 
find no-one present.

-Morgan


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 Robert Asmus 
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2/2/2003


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38725">
From: 


'Admin' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 2, 2003  6:17
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Tangerine Dream IRC


This is a good chat channel!

What Morgan say's about day time activity is true. There is a slight time
difference around the planet, seems not everyone keeps PST as I do.

;-)

dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Morgan Feldon' <feldon@f...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 10:11 AM
Subject: [tadream] Tangerine Dream IRC


>
> >Robert Asmus said:
> >
> >I have just created a registered chat channel for the Members of the
> >Tangerine Dream Tree. It is on IRC on the P2Pchat network. To connect
> >her is the network info: irc.p2pchat.net. Hope to see you there. This
> >is a place where we can talk live and not have to wait for email
> >responses.
>
> No offense, but we already have a registered IRC chat channel for the
> Tangerine Dream list on irc.sorcery.net in #tadream.
>
> If you download this small spyware-free program and install it, then open
> the folder it creates and double-click on the color 'mIRC' program, you
> will automatically be brought into the chatroom.
>
> www.feldoncentral.com/tddisc/tadreamIRC.exe
>
> The ease of getting into this chatroom has greatly contributed to its
> popularity. On Friday afternoon/evenings, we have had 10 people in the
chat
> at one time. Please don't be upset if you join in the middle of the day
and
> find no-one present.
>
> -Morgan


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38726">
From: 


'Robert Asmus' <asmus0324@c...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 2, 2003  6:25
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Tangerine Dream IRC


That true as I keep EST. But then who says everybody sleeps 8 hours a
day

:)
Robert

-----Original Message-----
From: Admin [mailto:admin@k...] 
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 1:17 PM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tadream] Tangerine Dream IRC

This is a good chat channel!

What Morgan say's about day time activity is true. There is a slight
time
difference around the planet, seems not everyone keeps PST as I do.

;-)

dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Morgan Feldon' <feldon@f...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 10:11 AM
Subject: [tadream] Tangerine Dream IRC


>
> >Robert Asmus said:
> >
> >I have just created a registered chat channel for the Members of the
> >Tangerine Dream Tree. It is on IRC on the P2Pchat network. To connect
> >her is the network info: irc.p2pchat.net. Hope to see you there. This
> >is a place where we can talk live and not have to wait for email
> >responses.
>
> No offense, but we already have a registered IRC chat channel for the
> Tangerine Dream list on irc.sorcery.net in #tadream.
>
> If you download this small spyware-free program and install it, then
open
> the folder it creates and double-click on the color 'mIRC' program,
you
> will automatically be brought into the chatroom.
>
> www.feldoncentral.com/tddisc/tadreamIRC.exe
>
> The ease of getting into this chatroom has greatly contributed to its
> popularity. On Friday afternoon/evenings, we have had 10 people in the
chat
> at one time. Please don't be upset if you join in the middle of the
day
and
> find no-one present.
>
> -Morgan


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<MESSAGE index="38727">
From: 


Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 2, 2003  6:44
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Dr. Who


Well, what about K-9? He had two voices...Didn't he?

Wade
--- Chris Richards <kohntarkosz@y...> wrote:
> <<Which Romana, there were two of them, remember?
> 
> Romana no.2 apparently the Dr. (Tom Baker) liked 
> very much too; in fact, enough that he even 
> married her.>>
> 
> Hmm, I don't know. I guess I kinda like the
> second Romana a bit more. Interesting point,
> though, because apart from The Doctor himself, I
> think Romana was the only Timelord who
> regenerated during the course of the show's run.
> Or at the very least, she was the only one who
> changed her appearance when she regenerated. I
> know The Master was played by at least two
> different actors (as I recall, the actor who
> played during the Jon Pertwee era, Roger Delgado,
> passed away sometime during the mid 70's), but
> the appearance was always more or less the same,
> with the same style beard and mustache. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> =====
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<MESSAGE index="38728">
From: 


'Pergamon' <pergamon@g...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 2, 2003  6:47
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Possible new CD


Count me in.................

Jan

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 4:54 PM
Subject: [tadream] Possible new CD


> Perhaps it's too soon, but some of the list does a lot of music. Maybe we
> could create a memorable CD for the Colombia? Similar to the Dream tree?
>
> Dale
>
>
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<MESSAGE index="38729">
From: 


'Robert Asmus' <asmus0324@c...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 2, 2003  6:54
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Possible new CD


I already have one track in mind if Jean Michel Jarre is ok with it.
'Last Rendez Vous 'Ron's piece'. As you know part of it was supposed to
be played from space on a Sax on the Challenger.

Robert

-----Original Message-----
From: Pergamon [mailto:pergamon@g...] 
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 1:47 PM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tadream] Possible new CD

Count me in.................

Jan

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Admin' <admin@k...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 4:54 PM
Subject: [tadream] Possible new CD


> Perhaps it's too soon, but some of the list does a lot of music. Maybe
we
> could create a memorable CD for the Colombia? Similar to the Dream
tree?
>
> Dale
>
>
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<MESSAGE index="38730">
From: 


Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 2, 2003  6:54
pm
Subject:  


Right now there are 1000 people listening to 'Sound
Explorer' and it is a Sunday afternoon in the 1:00
p.m. hour. And the amazing thing is that it is a
rerun.

Wade

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<MESSAGE index="38731">
From: 


'Pergamon' <pergamon@g...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 2, 2003  7:23
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Possible new CD


Are we going to select different pieces from various artists or are we going
to create tracks ourself???????

I think the CD will be more personal if we create our own
tribute-tracks....??????

Ron's Piece would be an excellent choice, but this was created for Ron
McNair and I think the crew of the spaceshuttle Columbia deserves their own
tribute.

Jan

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Robert Asmus' <asmus0324@c...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 7:54 PM
Subject: RE: [tadream] Possible new CD


> I already have one track in mind if Jean Michel Jarre is ok with it.
> 'Last Rendez Vous 'Ron's piece'. As you know part of it was supposed to
> be played from space on a Sax on the Challenger.
>
> Robert
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pergamon [mailto:pergamon@g...]
> Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 1:47 PM
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [tadream] Possible new CD
>
> Count me in.................
>
> Jan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Admin' <admin@k...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 4:54 PM
> Subject: [tadream] Possible new CD
>
>
> > Perhaps it's too soon, but some of the list does a lot of music. Maybe
> we
> > could create a memorable CD for the Colombia? Similar to the Dream
> tree?
> >
> > Dale
> >
> >
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<MESSAGE index="38732">
From: 
'Matthew Stringer' <qube@f...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 2, 2003  7:33
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Possible new CD


Me too.


-----Original Message-----
From: Pergamon [mailto:pergamon@g...] 
Sent: 02 February 2003 18:47
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tadream] Possible new CD

Count me in.................

Jan

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Admin' <admin@k...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 4:54 PM
Subject: [tadream] Possible new CD


> Perhaps it's too soon, but some of the list does a lot of music. Maybe
we
> could create a memorable CD for the Colombia? Similar to the Dream
tree?
>
> Dale
>
>
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<MESSAGE index="38733">
From: 


'Robert Asmus' <asmus0324@c...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 2, 2003  7:41
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Possible new CD


The only reason I thought of Ron's Piece is that the Columbia crew just
paid tribute the the Challenger crew not to long ago. And as NASA say's
they are all one big family. So paying tribute should be to the whole
family and not just to the 7 lost souls of Columbia. That is just one
opinion of mine.

Robert Asmus

-----Original Message-----
From: Pergamon [mailto:pergamon@g...] 
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 2:24 PM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tadream] Possible new CD

Are we going to select different pieces from various artists or are we
going
to create tracks ourself???????

I think the CD will be more personal if we create our own
tribute-tracks....??????

Ron's Piece would be an excellent choice, but this was created for Ron
McNair and I think the crew of the spaceshuttle Columbia deserves their
own
tribute.

Jan

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Robert Asmus' <asmus0324@c...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 7:54 PM
Subject: RE: [tadream] Possible new CD


> I already have one track in mind if Jean Michel Jarre is ok with it.
> 'Last Rendez Vous 'Ron's piece'. As you know part of it was supposed
to
> be played from space on a Sax on the Challenger.
>
> Robert
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pergamon [mailto:pergamon@g...]
> Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 1:47 PM
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [tadream] Possible new CD
>
> Count me in.................
>
> Jan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Admin' <admin@k...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 4:54 PM
> Subject: [tadream] Possible new CD
>
>
> > Perhaps it's too soon, but some of the list does a lot of music.
Maybe
> we
> > could create a memorable CD for the Colombia? Similar to the Dream
> tree?
> >
> > Dale
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
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<MESSAGE index="38734">
From: 


'Pergamon' <pergamon@g...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 2, 2003  8:02
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Possible new CD


Sorry Robert......

I just read my post again and it could seem a bit harsh. No harm was
intended....=O)

My post were intended to figure out what we should do. A compilation of
known pieces, a CD for the Columbia crew, own tribute-tracks, a tribute for
all working on exploration of space (as you suggested), or ???????

Jan

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Robert Asmus' <asmus0324@c...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 8:41 PM
Subject: RE: [tadream] Possible new CD


> The only reason I thought of Ron's Piece is that the Columbia crew just
> paid tribute the the Challenger crew not to long ago. And as NASA say's
> they are all one big family. So paying tribute should be to the whole
> family and not just to the 7 lost souls of Columbia. That is just one
> opinion of mine.
>
> Robert Asmus
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pergamon [mailto:pergamon@g...]
> Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 2:24 PM
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [tadream] Possible new CD
>
> Are we going to select different pieces from various artists or are we
> going
> to create tracks ourself???????
>
> I think the CD will be more personal if we create our own
> tribute-tracks....??????
>
> Ron's Piece would be an excellent choice, but this was created for Ron
> McNair and I think the crew of the spaceshuttle Columbia deserves their
> own
> tribute.
>
> Jan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Robert Asmus' <asmus0324@c...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 7:54 PM
> Subject: RE: [tadream] Possible new CD
>
>
> > I already have one track in mind if Jean Michel Jarre is ok with it.
> > 'Last Rendez Vous 'Ron's piece'. As you know part of it was supposed
> to
> > be played from space on a Sax on the Challenger.
> >
> > Robert
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Pergamon [mailto:pergamon@g...]
> > Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 1:47 PM
> > To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [tadream] Possible new CD
> >
> > Count me in.................
> >
> > Jan
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: 'Admin' <admin@k...>
> > To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 4:54 PM
> > Subject: [tadream] Possible new CD
> >
> >
> > > Perhaps it's too soon, but some of the list does a lot of music.
> Maybe
> > we
> > > could create a memorable CD for the Colombia? Similar to the Dream
> > tree?
> > >
> > > Dale
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------_-
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<MESSAGE index="38735">
From: 


'Robert Asmus' <asmus0324@c...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 2, 2003  8:08
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Possible new CD


No Problem.... What just came to mind is that we should all get together
and compile a list of songs that will do justice. Including stuff from
the musical artist's on the tree have created and would like to create
for this.

Robert

-----Original Message-----
From: Pergamon [mailto:pergamon@g...] 
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 3:03 PM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tadream] Possible new CD

Sorry Robert......

I just read my post again and it could seem a bit harsh. No harm was
intended....=O)

My post were intended to figure out what we should do. A compilation of
known pieces, a CD for the Columbia crew, own tribute-tracks, a tribute
for
all working on exploration of space (as you suggested), or ???????

Jan

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Robert Asmus' <asmus0324@c...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 8:41 PM
Subject: RE: [tadream] Possible new CD


> The only reason I thought of Ron's Piece is that the Columbia crew
just
> paid tribute the the Challenger crew not to long ago. And as NASA
say's
> they are all one big family. So paying tribute should be to the whole
> family and not just to the 7 lost souls of Columbia. That is just one
> opinion of mine.
>
> Robert Asmus
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pergamon [mailto:pergamon@g...]
> Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 2:24 PM
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [tadream] Possible new CD
>
> Are we going to select different pieces from various artists or are we
> going
> to create tracks ourself???????
>
> I think the CD will be more personal if we create our own
> tribute-tracks....??????
>
> Ron's Piece would be an excellent choice, but this was created for Ron
> McNair and I think the crew of the spaceshuttle Columbia deserves
their
> own
> tribute.
>
> Jan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Robert Asmus' <asmus0324@c...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 7:54 PM
> Subject: RE: [tadream] Possible new CD
>
>
> > I already have one track in mind if Jean Michel Jarre is ok with it.
> > 'Last Rendez Vous 'Ron's piece'. As you know part of it was
supposed
> to
> > be played from space on a Sax on the Challenger.
> >
> > Robert
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Pergamon [mailto:pergamon@g...]
> > Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 1:47 PM
> > To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [tadream] Possible new CD
> >
> > Count me in.................
> >
> > Jan
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: 'Admin' <admin@k...>
> > To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 4:54 PM
> > Subject: [tadream] Possible new CD
> >
> >
> > > Perhaps it's too soon, but some of the list does a lot of music.
> Maybe
> > we
> > > could create a memorable CD for the Colombia? Similar to the Dream
> > tree?
> > >
> > > Dale
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > > ----------------------------------------------------_-
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> > > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> > >
> > > Tangerine Tree info at
> > > http://www.tadream.net/tree
> > >
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<MESSAGE index="38736">
From: 


'Pergamon' <pergamon@g...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 2, 2003  8:21
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Possible new CD


I am at this minut already working on a track..................

Anyone wants to be the coordinator (is this the right word) for this?????

How do you set up one of those tree-things????? so people can join with
tracks or a list of suggestions for tracks??????

Jan

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Robert Asmus' <asmus0324@c...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 9:08 PM
Subject: RE: [tadream] Possible new CD


> No Problem.... What just came to mind is that we should all get together
> and compile a list of songs that will do justice. Including stuff from
> the musical artist's on the tree have created and would like to create
> for this.
>
> Robert


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<MESSAGE index="38737">
From: 


'Robert Asmus' <asmus0324@c...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 2, 2003  8:32
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Possible new CD


Well once something is put together, I can get it to NASA. My moms next
door neighbor works for NASA and has put me in direct contact with a
NASA rep and is waiting to see what we can do

Robert

-----Original Message-----
From: Pergamon [mailto:pergamon@g...] 
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 3:21 PM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tadream] Possible new CD

I am at this minut already working on a track..................

Anyone wants to be the coordinator (is this the right word) for
this?????

How do you set up one of those tree-things????? so people can join with
tracks or a list of suggestions for tracks??????

Jan

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Robert Asmus' <asmus0324@c...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 9:08 PM
Subject: RE: [tadream] Possible new CD


> No Problem.... What just came to mind is that we should all get
together
> and compile a list of songs that will do justice. Including stuff
from
> the musical artist's on the tree have created and would like to create
> for this.
>
> Robert


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<MESSAGE index="38738">
From: 


'Pergamon' <pergamon@g...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 2, 2003  8:38
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Possible new CD


Cool mom.....=O)

Jan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: 'Robert Asmus' <asmus0324@c...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 9:32 PM
Subject: RE: [tadream] Possible new CD


> Well once something is put together, I can get it to NASA. My moms next
> door neighbor works for NASA and has put me in direct contact with a
> NASA rep and is waiting to see what we can do
> 
> Robert


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38739">
From: 


'Admin' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 2, 2003  10:12
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Possible new CD


My original idea was tracks crated my the list members here, done by them so
we would not run into copyright issues. Sure they can be similar or follow
but under the music world rules of copyright. If we use any copyright
material, it must go thru the chain and be accounted for, otherwise bad ju
ju...

dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Pergamon' <pergamon@g...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Possible new CD


> Are we going to select different pieces from various artists or are we
going
> to create tracks ourself???????
>
> I think the CD will be more personal if we create our own
> tribute-tracks....??????
>
> Ron's Piece would be an excellent choice, but this was created for Ron
> McNair and I think the crew of the spaceshuttle Columbia deserves their
own
> tribute.
>
> Jan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Robert Asmus' <asmus0324@c...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 7:54 PM
> Subject: RE: [tadream] Possible new CD
>
>
> > I already have one track in mind if Jean Michel Jarre is ok with it.
> > 'Last Rendez Vous 'Ron's piece'. As you know part of it was supposed to
> > be played from space on a Sax on the Challenger.
> >
> > Robert
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Pergamon [mailto:pergamon@g...]
> > Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 1:47 PM
> > To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [tadream] Possible new CD
> >
> > Count me in.................
> >
> > Jan
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: 'Admin' <admin@k...>
> > To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 4:54 PM
> > Subject: [tadream] Possible new CD
> >
> >
> > > Perhaps it's too soon, but some of the list does a lot of music. Maybe
> > we
> > > could create a memorable CD for the Colombia? Similar to the Dream
> > tree?
> > >
> > > Dale
> > >
> > >
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<MESSAGE index="38740">
From: 


Eric Williamson <erwill@s...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 2, 2003  11:01
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] nOT: Dr Who indeed, was H2G2 talk


On Saturday, February 1, 2003, at 02:40 PM, Wade Gordon wrote:
> I told you the Orbital version was better. The only
> good thing about the KLF is the Darlek's saying
> 'Ex-terminate.'

not to mention the book they wrote about making that song: The Manual.

the KLF did the Dr Who theme as a joke. a total joke. the KLF existed 
only to mock the music industry and i think they did it very well.

yes i do agree, the Orbital version is much better.

---
Eric Williamson
www.suitandtieguy.com


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38741">
From: 


'Robert Asmus' <asmus0324@c...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 2, 2003  11:18
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Possible new CD


That sounds like a very good idea.

-----Original Message-----
From: Admin [mailto:admin@k...] 
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 5:12 PM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tadream] Possible new CD

My original idea was tracks crated my the list members here, done by
them so
we would not run into copyright issues. Sure they can be similar or
follow
but under the music world rules of copyright. If we use any copyright
material, it must go thru the chain and be accounted for, otherwise bad
ju
ju...

dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Pergamon' <pergamon@g...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Possible new CD


> Are we going to select different pieces from various artists or are we
going
> to create tracks ourself???????
>
> I think the CD will be more personal if we create our own
> tribute-tracks....??????
>
> Ron's Piece would be an excellent choice, but this was created for Ron
> McNair and I think the crew of the spaceshuttle Columbia deserves
their
own
> tribute.
>
> Jan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Robert Asmus' <asmus0324@c...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 7:54 PM
> Subject: RE: [tadream] Possible new CD
>
>
> > I already have one track in mind if Jean Michel Jarre is ok with it.
> > 'Last Rendez Vous 'Ron's piece'. As you know part of it was
supposed to
> > be played from space on a Sax on the Challenger.
> >
> > Robert
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Pergamon [mailto:pergamon@g...]
> > Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 1:47 PM
> > To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [tadream] Possible new CD
> >
> > Count me in.................
> >
> > Jan
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: 'Admin' <admin@k...>
> > To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 4:54 PM
> > Subject: [tadream] Possible new CD
> >
> >
> > > Perhaps it's too soon, but some of the list does a lot of music.
Maybe
> > we
> > > could create a memorable CD for the Colombia? Similar to the Dream
> > tree?
> > >
> > > Dale
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> > > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> > >
> > > Tangerine Tree info at
> > > http://www.tadream.net/tree
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
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> > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> >
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> > http://www.tadream.net/tree
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> >
> >
> >
>
>
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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38742">
From: 


'Adele Outland' <outlanda60@h...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 2, 2003  11:33
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Doctors and sidekicks (OT)


Dr John
Sancho Panza
I guess this topic is no worse than the rest of the OT's we've been doing 
lately.
All IMO of course.
8-Dell

As time slips into memory, memory fades into dreams.


>From: TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak <martin@t...>
>Reply-To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
>To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Dr. Who music
>Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 12:06:51 +0100
>
>
> >
> >Who's your favorite doctor?
>
>*Dr. Frankenstein.
>
> >Further...
> >
> >Who's your favorite sidekick?
>
>*Chewbacca.
>
> >I
>
>Now that was way off-topic even for the D: Dr. Who-List... ;-)
>
>
>Best regards,
>
>Martin Kasprzak


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<MESSAGE index="38743">
From: 


Gustavo Jobim <gustavojobim@s...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 3, 2003  12:27
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Tangerine Dream IRC


> >I have just created a registered chat channel for the Members of the
> >Tangerine Dream Tree.

>No offense, but we already have a registered IRC chat channel for the
>Tangerine Dream list on irc.sorcery.net in #tadream.

Yeah. Come on, people, it's fun, although I haven't connected much. But 
thanks for the reminder, Morgan, I'm going there right now.


Gustavo Jobim
gustavojobim@s...


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38744">
From: 


'Michael A Jean' <michaeljean@e...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 3, 2003  2:48
am
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Possible new CD


I believe the are one or more NASA folks on this list already.

However I think the idea makes no sense at all... I am pretty sure these
families wouldn't give a damn about this CD project...

MJ

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Asmus [mailto:asmus0324@c...]
> Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 3:33 PM
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [tadream] Possible new CD
>
>
> Well once something is put together, I can get it to NASA. My moms next
> door neighbor works for NASA and has put me in direct contact with a
> NASA rep and is waiting to see what we can do
>
> Robert
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pergamon [mailto:pergamon@g...]
> Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 3:21 PM
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [tadream] Possible new CD
>
> I am at this minut already working on a track..................
>
> Anyone wants to be the coordinator (is this the right word) for
> this?????
>
> How do you set up one of those tree-things????? so people can join with
> tracks or a list of suggestions for tracks??????
>
> Jan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Robert Asmus' <asmus0324@c...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 9:08 PM
> Subject: RE: [tadream] Possible new CD
>
>
> > No Problem.... What just came to mind is that we should all get
> together
> > and compile a list of songs that will do justice. Including stuff
> from
> > the musical artist's on the tree have created and would like to create
> > for this.
> >
> > Robert
>
>
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>
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>
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>
>
>
>
>
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>
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> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38745">
From: 


'Admin' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 3, 2003  3:05
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Possible new CD


While that may be true, it does help to ease things a bit when you are
working on a piece with this thought in mind. Yes, there are a few here with
connections to NASA on the list.

dale

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Michael A Jean' <michaeljean@e...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 6:48 PM
Subject: RE: [tadream] Possible new CD


> I believe the are one or more NASA folks on this list already.
>
> However I think the idea makes no sense at all... I am pretty sure these
> families wouldn't give a damn about this CD project...
>
> MJ
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Robert Asmus [mailto:asmus0324@c...]
> > Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 3:33 PM
> > To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [tadream] Possible new CD
> >
> >
> > Well once something is put together, I can get it to NASA. My moms next
> > door neighbor works for NASA and has put me in direct contact with a
> > NASA rep and is waiting to see what we can do
> >
> > Robert
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Pergamon [mailto:pergamon@g...]
> > Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 3:21 PM
> > To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [tadream] Possible new CD
> >
> > I am at this minut already working on a track..................
> >
> > Anyone wants to be the coordinator (is this the right word) for
> > this?????
> >
> > How do you set up one of those tree-things????? so people can join with
> > tracks or a list of suggestions for tracks??????
> >
> > Jan
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: 'Robert Asmus' <asmus0324@c...>
> > To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 9:08 PM
> > Subject: RE: [tadream] Possible new CD
> >
> >
> > > No Problem.... What just came to mind is that we should all get
> > together
> > > and compile a list of songs that will do justice. Including stuff
> > from
> > > the musical artist's on the tree have created and would like to create
> > > for this.
> > >
> > > Robert
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> >
> > Tangerine Tree info at
> > http://www.tadream.net/tree
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> >
> > Tangerine Tree info at
> > http://www.tadream.net/tree
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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> >
> >
>
>
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>
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<MESSAGE index="38746">
From: 


Liondream@a... 
Date:  Mon Feb 3, 2003  5:10
am
Subject:  Re: tribute


I vote for DIY. 

Is anyone permitted to participate? What is the schedule?


In a message dated 2/2/2003 2:08:06 PM Central Standard Time, 
tadream@yahoogroups.com writes:


> Message: 21
> Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 20:23:36 +0100
> From: 'Pergamon' <pergamon@g...>
> Subject: Re: Possible new CD
> 
> Are we going to select different pieces from various artists or are we going
> to create tracks ourself???????
> 
> I think the CD will be more personal if we create our own
> tribute-tracks....??????
> 
> Ron's Piece would be an excellent choice, but this was created for Ron
> McNair and I think the crew of the spaceshuttle Columbia deserves their own
> tribute.
> 
> Jan


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38747">
From: 


Liondream@a... 
Date:  Mon Feb 3, 2003  5:29
am
Subject:  Re: Chris Franke 'toy list'


Dale,

I haven't posted the Poland list because I don't know that people would be 
interested in hearing the whole schmatahara... but I will list just the drums 
(or things that would be obviously capable of 'drums')...

Chris Franke
Emulator
Syntec Custom Digital Drum Computer
Simmons Drum Modules

Edgar Froese
DMX

Johannes Schmoelling
Bohm Digital Drums
TR808

This is off the Jive cassette.

There is also a tasty equipment list (though probably outdated at this point) 
as well as some photos at the Sonic Images site. I also remember reading an 
interview with C.F. in one of the music mags where he talked about his work 
on Babylon 5 and some of the synths he used for some of the sounds. I'm 
pretty sure it was Keyboard. 

w


In a message dated 2/2/2003 3:47:20 AM Central Standard Time, 
tadream@yahoogroups.com writes:


> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 08:33:37 -0800
> From: 'Admin' <admin@k...>
> Subject: Re: Re: Wracajac do Polski
> 
> I only have the cd so I don't have the eq. list.
> There are a lot of eq. here that could and most likely be, playing some or
> all the parts. I am leaning toward Chris playing due to the sounds. He also
> did the theme to 'The Rangers' (Babylon 5 spin off). There is a certain
> sound I want to use that he uses in both and others. I am going to dig a bit
> more to cross reference the eq. a bit.
> 
> Dale


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38748">
From: 


Liondream@a... 
Date:  Mon Feb 3, 2003  5:33
am
Subject:  Re: TD mp3s


I would bet that if single mp3s were available for purchase download they 
would either be available directly from the td site, or the other sites would 
be referenced from the td site.


In a message dated 2/2/2003 3:47:20 AM Central Standard Time, 
tadream@yahoogroups.com writes:


> Message: 10
> Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 18:29:29 +0100
> From: 'Fred Yargui' <fredericyargui@w...>
> Subject: Re: another strange thing
> 
> Hi again,
> 
> As I can't read cyrillic, I don't understand the exact purpose of the site.
> It seems that you can buy only a track in mp3 format... Are there other
> sites like that (buy a single track instead of entire album) and are they
> legal ?
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Fred
> 


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<MESSAGE index="38749">
From: 


Liondream@a... 
Date:  Mon Feb 3, 2003  5:44
am
Subject:  Re: another strange thing


Ahh, now it all makes sense...

Force Majeure
Cloudburst Flight
Thru Metamorphic Rocks

In a message dated 2/2/2003 3:47:20 AM Central Standard Time, 
tadream@yahoogroups.com writes:


> Message: 16
> Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 15:58:51 -0500
> From: 'vic rek' <tangerinedream@a...>
> Subject: Re: another strange thing
> 
> Ha! I forgot that I had this release.
> The title is translated (loosely) as 'Music for Curing Impotence and Kidney
> Stones' :-)
> And as Bob said, it's just another Russian bootleg MP3 compilation.
> Vic
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Fred Yargui <fredericyargui@w...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 10:54 AM
> Subject: [tadream] another strange thing
> 
> 
> > Hello, I found this by surfing...
> >
> > http://www.cd-rom.shop.by/8890.html
> >
> > What do you think it is ?
> >


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<MESSAGE index="38750">
From: 


Liondream@a... 
Date:  Mon Feb 3, 2003  5:45
am
Subject:  Re: Dr. Who again...


I think the Master regenerated (even though he looked similar) because there 
was something about him peforming an illegal regeneration...


In a message dated 2/2/2003 3:47:20 AM Central Standard Time, 
tadream@yahoogroups.com writes:


> Message: 20
> Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 19:45:59 -0800 (PST)
> From: Chris Richards <kohntarkosz@y...>
> Subject: Re: Dr. Who
> 
> <<Which Romana, there were two of them, remember?
> 
> Romana no.2 apparently the Dr. (Tom Baker) liked 
> very much too; in fact, enough that he even 
> married her.>>
> 
> Hmm, I don't know. I guess I kinda like the
> second Romana a bit more. Interesting point,
> though, because apart from The Doctor himself, I
> think Romana was the only Timelord who
> regenerated during the course of the show's run.
> Or at the very least, she was the only one who
> changed her appearance when she regenerated. I
> know The Master was played by at least two
> different actors (as I recall, the actor who
> played during the Jon Pertwee era, Roger Delgado,
> passed away sometime during the mid 70's), but
> the appearance was always more or less the same,
> with the same style beard and mustache. 


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<MESSAGE index="38751">
From: 


'Yannick EDOM' <yannick.edom@s...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 3, 2003  7:06
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Possible new CD


Hi everyone

Count Darklion in too. i will ask Nightbirds and Döktor Strange for this
also.


Yannick Edom
Mirage Créations
Champlain B7 A 101
47 Chemin de Pelleport
31500 TOULOUSE
FRANCE

e-mail : yannick.edom@s...


> Me too.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pergamon [mailto:pergamon@g...]
> Sent: 02 February 2003 18:47
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [tadream] Possible new CD
>
> Count me in.................
>
> Jan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Admin' <admin@k...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 4:54 PM
> Subject: [tadream] Possible new CD
>
>
> > Perhaps it's too soon, but some of the list does a lot of music. Maybe
> we
> > could create a memorable CD for the Colombia? Similar to the Dream
> tree?
> >
> > Dale
> >
> >
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> >
> > Tangerine Tree info at
> > http://www.tadream.net/tree
> >
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> >
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<MESSAGE index="38752">
From: 


'Greg' <designx@c...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 3, 2003  10:59
am
Subject:  OT: Album Recomendation


For those who enjoy Mar Polaris, Dream Mixes and some other TD albums with
an often breakbeat backing, you might want to check out Sasha's
Airdrawndagger. It's a true electronic album - that is not dance oriented.
This is how I wish TD would go with this sort of mixture of ambiance,
sequencer, and breakbeat.

Imagine stuff like Astrophobia with single themes, more ambiance, more
interesting drumming.. ticking.. etc.

Apart from just one trance like track, this is actual intelligent electronic
music output.

Good stuff!


Greg


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<MESSAGE index="38753">
From: 


TDI MUSIC - Martin Kasprzak <martin@t...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 2, 2003  5:03
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Tangerine Tree Volumn 1 for Sale


At 18:59 01.02.03, you wrote:
>I'll second the b*****ds comment, for sure. It's
>amazing how some thoughtless persons greed could
>jeopordise the Tree and this priviledged opportunity
>we have to listen to the greatest electronic music
>never released.
>
>I'd be interested in what Martin K and Heiko H have to
>say about this.
>
>Jonnyboy.

Dear list,

unfortunately, there will always be scoundrels who will try to gain 
personal profit on other people´s backs. But... this example and how all 
the participants reacted to it shows me that the tree as a non-profit, 
self-monitoring project works very well.

Thus, I can only say 'THANK YOU' for the help and assistance and keep up 
the good work. By keeping an eye on this we can fight those who do try to 
rip us off.

Keep em coming... ;-)


Best regards,

Martin Kasprzak
TDI- Music- Support.
Tel:-49-30-23620995
Fax:-49-30-23620996

Visit our Website at:

http://www.tangerinedream.org


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<MESSAGE index="38754">
From: 


Heiko Heerssen <heiko.heerssen@h...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 3, 2003  12:40
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Tangerine Tree Volumn 1 for Sale


>
> >I'll second the b*****ds comment, for sure. It's
> >amazing how some thoughtless persons greed could
> >jeopordise the Tree and this priviledged opportunity
> >we have to listen to the greatest electronic music
> >never released.
> >
> >I'd be interested in what Martin K and Heiko H have to
> >say about this.

well you can imagine my shock when I had a look at the emails that popped in
since last Friday (I don't have access to the Internet during weekends)! I
know the 'GEMM' website and often I can't help but to laugh about the
horrendous prices some people want to have for offering their TD stuff. I
know that some (many?) people on this list always keep an open eye on TD
items that are being offered on auction channels (ebay etc.), internet cd
stores and the like. And that's why I am pretty confident that such offers
like the TT#1 on GEMM will get removed sooner or later. Also, don't mess with
TD's lawyers, it's much healthier for you ;-)

regards
Heiko


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<MESSAGE index="38755">
From: 


Mr Paul Dryden <paulus.d@f...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 3, 2003  1:14
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream]


> >Question for list owner(Joe)
> >
> >I found in my collection the 'Electronic Soundmaker & Computer Music'

> >magazine's cassette, the one with Tangerine Dream on the cover. The 
mag has 
> >bit the dust unfortunetly but the tape is OK.
> >Is it worth placing in the files on Yahoo group or will copyright 
block me?
> >Not the whole thing, we all have No man's land, but the breakdown of 

> >instrument piece.
> >Paulus.d
> 
> 
> Isn't this already to be found at the end of Electronic Orgy?
> 
> John Vertical
> 
>I don't, unfortunetly have eletronic orgy but if members have this 
item and its on there, theres not much point.

If anyone wants it, they can contact me off group at my email paulus.d@
freeuk.com
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<MESSAGE index="38756">
From: 


Armin Theissen <Armin.Theissen@s...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 3, 2003  1:34
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Dr. Who again...


For Christs sake: When do you people move to or open a
Dr. Who list???? This list is about Tangerine Dream,
and that Dr. Who topic went way beyond the tolarable
extent...

please...

armin

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<MESSAGE index="38757">
From: 


jerome <ssaalyersjj@y...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 3, 2003  1:41
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Possible new CD


> However I think the idea makes no sense at all... I am pretty sure these
> families wouldn't give a damn about this CD project...
>
> MJ

this project (even the idea) is much more about the idea of community and
support... by presenting NASA (and defacto the families of the columbia
astronauts who died) with a tribute album, we simply show support in a time of
grief and need...
let's face it, it would take at BEST a month or two to put this together with
original tracks, what with making, mixing, mastering, etc... emotions change
and time moves on... and when we presented the tribute, it would be just that,
a tribute... 
someone's tribute can never replace a loss, but it can remind us of a larger
spirit of faith, understanding and love that is community, whether that
community is your neighborhood or the global community...
i think it's a brilliant idea and would love to participate... 
jerome


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<MESSAGE index="38758">
From: 


jerome <ssaalyersjj@y...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 3, 2003  1:54
pm
Subject:  [tadream] Tribute CD


hi, all...

i volunteer to co-ordiante this project, unless someone else wants to... 

what i see is this:

1) we need to sketch out a time frame that is realistic, but quick... my
suggestion is that tracks for the CD get to me by March 1st... other
suggestions?...

2) we need to decide on a 1 or 2 CDR project... i suggest a 1 CDR

3) we need someone who can volunteer to do the artwork

i can collect the tracks and co-ordinate the artwork and getting the CD to NASA
with Robert...

what i need is for interested musicians to contact me off list with the
subject[Tribute CD] to let me know who you are and when you can have the track
to me... 

if someone else wants to do this, or has other ideas to contribute, please let
me know...

jerome

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<MESSAGE index="38759">
From: 


Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 3, 2003  3:12
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Dr. Who again...


My favorite is Tom Baker and his rather charming
female compaion who liked to weark buck skin. Now,
about the master. He was not portrayed too well the
the telefilm. They should have at least had the
Darleks.

Wade
--- Liondream@a... wrote:
> I think the Master regenerated (even though he
> looked similar) because there 
> was something about him peforming an illegal
> regeneration...
> 
> 
> In a message dated 2/2/2003 3:47:20 AM Central
> Standard Time, 
> tadream@yahoogroups.com writes:
> 
> 
> > Message: 20
> > Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 19:45:59 -0800 (PST)
> > From: Chris Richards <kohntarkosz@y...>
> > Subject: Re: Dr. Who
> > 
> > <<Which Romana, there were two of them, remember?
> > 
> > Romana no.2 apparently the Dr. (Tom Baker) liked 
> > very much too; in fact, enough that he even 
> > married her.>>
> > 
> > Hmm, I don't know. I guess I kinda like the
> > second Romana a bit more. Interesting point,
> > though, because apart from The Doctor himself, I
> > think Romana was the only Timelord who
> > regenerated during the course of the show's run.
> > Or at the very least, she was the only one who
> > changed her appearance when she regenerated. I
> > know The Master was played by at least two
> > different actors (as I recall, the actor who
> > played during the Jon Pertwee era, Roger Delgado,
> > passed away sometime during the mid 70's), but
> > the appearance was always more or less the same,
> > with the same style beard and mustache. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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<MESSAGE index="38760">
From: 


<strat95@b...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 3, 2003  3:19
pm
Subject:  OT: - NASCAR


Hello All,

This is directed to all of the TD friends 'across the pond'.

I just found out that the UK and Ireland will be getting to watch the American
NASCAR races live! I know these might come on at odd hours of the day and
night, but you should try to check them out. NASCAR races have more capacity in
the stands than NFL and Soccer games. NASCAR is exciting to watch, even on TV,
but especially live.

http://www.nascar.com/2003/races/ontv/headlines/01/31/nasn_uk/index.html

I know this is way off topic, but we seem to be having a lot of OT discussions
lately. I hope no one minds my little rant.

Neal
GO Tony - #20 Home Depot!!!!!


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<MESSAGE index="38761">
From: 


Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 3, 2003  3:27
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] nOT: Dr Who indeed, was H2G2 talk


I have just completed the Jean Michel Jarre program
with some Hitchiker's material thrown in. And a Peter
Baumann and Private Music one in production. This will
include an interview with Peter Baumann. Then the Dr.
Who one will be worked on. I have a great deal of Dr.
Who material to go through. In my library I have 16
Dr. Who c.d.'s and approximately 20 albums and 45's.

As of this writing 895 people are on the website and
1000 yesterday morning. The real push is 4:00 p.m.
Eastern, then a lot of people will have a hard time
getting on the site. Yesterday, I myself could not
get on.

Wade
--- Admin <admin@k...> wrote:
> Well Wade, keep me informed. If it's on the web I
> will be able to hear it.
> 
> It gets lonely out here on the west coast.
> 
> dale
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Wade Gordon' <mindvoyager1@y...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 12:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [tadream] nOT: Dr Who indeed, was H2G2
> talk
> 
> 
> > I told you the Orbital version was better. The
> only
> > good thing about the KLF is the Darlek's saying
> > 'Ex-terminate.'
> >
> > Also, I am planning a Dr. Who Special real soon. 
> The
> > David Arnold is a bit over the top with the
> Delaware
> > version being the best, but the best of the best,
> is
> > the new & improved 'Stereo' version cobbled
> together
> > by Mark Ayers.
> >
> > Wade
> > --- Pergamon <pergamon@g...> wrote:
> > > Have just had a listen to the old KLF-version of
> Dr.
> > > Who....................couldn't remember it....
> > >
> > > Now I know why I through that record out of a
> window
> > > on the top floor of a
> > > hotel, here in
> Copenhagen......................It
> > > sucked and it still
> > > sucks......
> > >
> > > Jan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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<MESSAGE index="38762">
From: 


<strat95@b...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 3, 2003  3:39
pm
Subject:  Tangerine Tree #3 tree structure


Hello,

I cannot seem to find my copy of the TT #3 tree structure. Can some 'kind soul'
please forward this to me???

Thanks
Neal

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<MESSAGE index="38763">
From: 


'Jim Moore' <moxica@a...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 3, 2003  4:24
pm
Subject:  TT3 Downloads Yet?


Afternoon, all!

Are there any FTP servers yet with Tangerine Tree 3 available for download?


- jim

__________________________________________________
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<MESSAGE index="38764">
From: 


'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 3, 2003  5:00
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Tribute CD


Since I started this, I give it to you. I am in the middle of a move and
would only delay things considerable while I box and unbox in the next few
weeks. Thanks for picking up where I can not. Yannick mention he was
interested as well. He is very good at gathering and putting together. When
I get settled in, I hope to have my tracks ready to send in.

Dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'jerome' <ssaalyersjj@y...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 5:54 AM
Subject: [tadream] Tribute CD


> hi, all...
>
> i volunteer to co-ordiante this project, unless someone else wants to...
>
> what i see is this:
>
> 1) we need to sketch out a time frame that is realistic, but quick... my
> suggestion is that tracks for the CD get to me by March 1st... other
> suggestions?...
>
> 2) we need to decide on a 1 or 2 CDR project... i suggest a 1 CDR
>
> 3) we need someone who can volunteer to do the artwork
>
> i can collect the tracks and co-ordinate the artwork and getting the CD to
NASA
> with Robert...
>
> what i need is for interested musicians to contact me off list with the
> subject[Tribute CD] to let me know who you are and when you can have the
track
> to me...
>
> if someone else wants to do this, or has other ideas to contribute, please
let
> me know...
>
> jerome
>
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<MESSAGE index="38765">
From: 


'Owens, James' <james.owens@m...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 3, 2003  5:31
pm
Subject:  OT: The Master: was( Re: Dr. Who)


***SPOILERS if you haven't seen these episodes!!!*****


Actually the Master regenerated onscreen. As you said, Roger Delgado died
in a car accident, which ended his regular appearances as The Doctor's
nemesis. (This was during Jon Pertwee's era.) At that time they decided to
retire the character in honor of the actor.

Years later, during Tom Baker's time, they decided to 'resurrect' The
Master. It was the episode 'The Deadly Assassin', BETWEEN Sarah Jane
Smith's last ('The Hand of Fear') and Leela's first ('The Face of Evil') -
one of the few episodes where Dr. Who has NO COMPANION. 

The episode takes place on Gallifrey, and you see a horribly disfigured
Master, who has reached his last regeneration. He is draining life from
others to stay alive. At the end of that episode, he gets away, with no
change to his status.

MUCH LATER, after Leela, Romana, K9, and K9-II are all gone, The Master
shows up again. The episode is 'The Keeper of Traken'. Adric is with The
Doctor, and this is where he meets Nyssa.
This is the next-to-last episode with Tom Baker.

***MAJOR SPOILER****
The Master shows up again, originally disguised as something else. In the
last minutes of the episode, He takes over the body of Nyssa's father (I
believe). It's a real shock the first time you see it! From then on The
Master is played by that actor (Anthony Ainley). He does look a bit like
Roger Delgado, though.

James


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Richards [mailto:kohntarkosz@y...]

> Hmm, I don't know. I guess I kinda like the
> second Romana a bit more. Interesting point,
> though, because apart from The Doctor himself, I
> think Romana was the only Timelord who
> regenerated during the course of the show's run.
> Or at the very least, she was the only one who
> changed her appearance when she regenerated. I
> know The Master was played by at least two
> different actors (as I recall, the actor who
> played during the Jon Pertwee era, Roger Delgado,
> passed away sometime during the mid 70's), but
> the appearance was always more or less the same,
> with the same style beard and mustache. 

	
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<MESSAGE index="38766">
From: 


'Adele Outland' <outlanda60@h...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 3, 2003  5:33
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] re-Tangerine-Dream.The Greatest


At least you're on topic. I have no clue who WHO is. (And don't want to 
know, so please don't send another spate of emails explaining it to me!) 
8-Dell
All IMO of course.
NP: Los Angeles Greek Theater 7-77;might be a good concert if my tape 
weren't warping.


As time slips into memory, memory fades into dreams.


>From: 'Colin Jouxson <convention24@y...>' <convention24@y...>
>Reply-To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
>To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [tadream] re-Tangerine-Dream.The Greatest
>Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 19:31:42 -0000
>
>Pheadra, Rubycon Stratosfear, there is no doubt,these guys were the
>complete Untouchables,Tangerine Dream-Probably the Greatest of all
>TIME.


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<MESSAGE index="38767">
From: 


Richard <richard@l...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 3, 2003  5:48
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Tribute CD


Hi

I started to record a tribute CD of my own so have the following tracks 
all ready:

Hyde Park
Alexander Square
Berlin Summer Nights (my Favourite)
Charley the Kid (actually this could be my favourite!)
Caleb's blues (oh my god !!)
Love on an (Un)Real train (my view!!! - and liked by many -not me 
though!)
Poland -Unfinished (the first 12 minutes or so and actually I like this 
a lot !!)

Others I had started were:

Chronozon (this wouldn't take to much to finish)

and a couple of others that I can't remember right now)

Please let me know if your interested in any of these. I could do low 
bandwidth MP3 version so you could see if they would be of use.

Cheers
>hi, all...
>
>i volunteer to co-ordiante this project, unless someone else wants to...
>
>what i see is this:
>
>1) we need to sketch out a time frame that is realistic, but quick... my
>suggestion is that tracks for the CD get to me by March 1st... other
>suggestions?...
>
>2) we need to decide on a 1 or 2 CDR project... i suggest a 1 CDR
>
>3) we need someone who can volunteer to do the artwork
>
>i can collect the tracks and co-ordinate the artwork and getting the CD to NASA
>with Robert...
>
>what i need is for interested musicians to contact me off list with the
>subject[Tribute CD] to let me know who you are and when you can have the track
>to me...
>
>if someone else wants to do this, or has other ideas to contribute, please let
>me know...
>
>jerome
>
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<MESSAGE index="38768">
From: 


Falcon <falcon@r...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 3, 2003  6:19
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] re-Tangerine-Dream.The Greatest


At 12:33 03.02.2003 -0500, you wrote:
>: Los Angeles Greek Theater 7-77;might be a good concert if my tape
>weren't warping.

You mean, your tape isnt heavily overmodulated ? (like mine)

Ramon 


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<MESSAGE index="38769">
From: 


Marion Horrod <marion@h...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 3, 2003  7:16
pm
Subject:  Re: Possible new CD


This idea really touched me, and I second what has been said about the 
people who lay their lives on the line to push out the frontiers of knowledge.

My preference would be for a CD of pieces created by list members, although 
I realise that it will take longer and maybe be more complicated to 
organise. Maybe Fred Yargui, who seems to have managed the DreamWatchers 
Tales projects can pass on his experience? (Of course, feasibility will 
depend on whether enough of 'our' musos feel able to contribute something.)

LnH

Marion

'The glass is neither half full or half empty. It's twice the size it needs
to be ...' S. Blakemore


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<MESSAGE index="38770">
From: 


thomas.soucheleau@n... 
Date:  Mon Feb 3, 2003  11:29
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Tribute CD


Hi,

I'd be interested in participating but well, this really depends on the
deadline. I'm a pretty slow guy... Unless the musos already have completed or
almost completed tracks available, March 1st leaves only 1 month to get the job
done.


Thomas.

-------------------------


hi, all...

i volunteer to co-ordiante this project, unless someone else wants to... 

what i see is this:

1) we need to sketch out a time frame that is realistic, but quick... my
suggestion is that tracks for the CD get to me by March 1st... other
suggestions?...

2) we need to decide on a 1 or 2 CDR project... i suggest a 1 CDR

3) we need someone who can volunteer to do the artwork

i can collect the tracks and co-ordinate the artwork and getting the CD to NASA
with Robert...

what i need is for interested musicians to contact me off list with the
subject[Tribute CD] to let me know who you are and when you can have the track
to me... 

if someone else wants to do this, or has other ideas to contribute, please let
me know...

jerome

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<MESSAGE index="38771">
From: 


'Owens, James' <james.owens@m...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 3, 2003  8:12
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Possible new CD


Right after I turned off the TV because I couldn't watch it anymore, I sat
down at my piano and started picking out some notes. I've just got the
basic melody and probably sequencer line, but since I consider it inspired
by the Columbia, I was planning to dedicate it to that idea.

I'll be most happy to contribute it to any effort we put together.

On a side note:
I didn't know any of the Columbia crew personally, but I have sat 'on
console' in the Engineering Support Room here at NASA-Marshall for about 6
shuttle mission (all space-station assembly missions). You really get to
know the crew of each mission. It's like spending a week and a half with
them. They all have nick-names. CAPCOM (the person on the ground who talks
to the crew - always a fellow astronaut) plays a wake-up song for the crew
each 'morning'. It's geared to a different crew member each day. I
remember one morning it was 'CAMELOT' from Python's 'Holy Grail'. The
Astronaut in question was evidently a huge Python fan...

I'm not sure where I'm going with this...

James


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<MESSAGE index="38772">
From: 


Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 3, 2003  9:46
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] OT: The Master: was( Re: Dr. Who)


What about K-9? It is an incredible character. A
great piece of writing. What about the Dr. Who
special that was done on the 'Eastenders' set and
included some of the characters?

Wade
--- 'Owens, James' <james.owens@m...> wrote:
> ***SPOILERS if you haven't seen these
> episodes!!!*****
> 
> 
> Actually the Master regenerated onscreen. As you
> said, Roger Delgado died
> in a car accident, which ended his regular
> appearances as The Doctor's
> nemesis. (This was during Jon Pertwee's era.) At
> that time they decided to
> retire the character in honor of the actor.
> 
> Years later, during Tom Baker's time, they decided
> to 'resurrect' The
> Master. It was the episode 'The Deadly Assassin',
> BETWEEN Sarah Jane
> Smith's last ('The Hand of Fear') and Leela's first
> ('The Face of Evil') -
> one of the few episodes where Dr. Who has NO
> COMPANION. 
> 
> The episode takes place on Gallifrey, and you see a
> horribly disfigured
> Master, who has reached his last regeneration. He
> is draining life from
> others to stay alive. At the end of that episode,
> he gets away, with no
> change to his status.
> 
> MUCH LATER, after Leela, Romana, K9, and K9-II are
> all gone, The Master
> shows up again. The episode is 'The Keeper of
> Traken'. Adric is with The
> Doctor, and this is where he meets Nyssa.
> This is the next-to-last episode with Tom Baker.
> 
> ***MAJOR SPOILER****
> The Master shows up again, originally disguised as
> something else. In the
> last minutes of the episode, He takes over the body
> of Nyssa's father (I
> believe). It's a real shock the first time you see
> it! From then on The
> Master is played by that actor (Anthony Ainley). He
> does look a bit like
> Roger Delgado, though.
> 
> James
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Richards
> [mailto:kohntarkosz@y...]
> 
> > Hmm, I don't know. I guess I kinda like the
> > second Romana a bit more. Interesting point,
> > though, because apart from The Doctor himself, I
> > think Romana was the only Timelord who
> > regenerated during the course of the show's run.
> > Or at the very least, she was the only one who
> > changed her appearance when she regenerated. I
> > know The Master was played by at least two
> > different actors (as I recall, the actor who
> > played during the Jon Pertwee era, Roger Delgado,
> > passed away sometime during the mid 70's), but
> > the appearance was always more or less the same,
> > with the same style beard and mustache. 
> 
>
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<MESSAGE index="38773">
From: 


'Fred Yargui' <fredericyargui@w...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 3, 2003  10:32
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Possible new CD


Hello Dreamers,

Count me in for a track dedicated to the 'passage' (more later... today was
a mind-realization day...)

Best Regards,

Fred


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<MESSAGE index="38774">
From: 


'Marc Dodsworth' <marcd@i...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 3, 2003  11:28
pm
Subject:  TT3 download via FTP


Hi

A couple of weeks back I asked if TT3 was going to be availble for download.

I got a reply back from some-one with the address of their server (I think
they were in Germany - the address ended .de) but I've lost the message.

If the person could send me the address again it would be appreciated

Thanks

Marc


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<MESSAGE index="38775">
From: 


'mike browder <mikebrowder@y...>' <mikebrowder@y...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 3, 2003  11:31
pm
Subject:  [Classic Tree] Christopher Stewart


Chris --

I don't know if you read this list or not, but it has been over a month since I
resent the blanks for the Classic Tree and I have not heard anything from you.
I emailed several times but received no response. If you see this please email
me and let me know something.

Thanks, mike

Please email to: spawnofcthulhu @ webtv.net


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38776">
From: 


'Robert Asmus' <asmus0324@c...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 3, 2003  11:36
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] TT3 download via FTP


If my branch can get me my copy of TT3. I will make the TT3 set
available on my ftp. But I do not know who my branch is yet. I now
only put my ftp online for special reasons like this.

Robert Asmus

-----Original Message-----
From: Marc Dodsworth [mailto:marcd@i...] 
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 6:28 PM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] TT3 download via FTP

Hi

A couple of weeks back I asked if TT3 was going to be availble for
download.

I got a reply back from some-one with the address of their server (I
think
they were in Germany - the address ended .de) but I've lost the message.

If the person could send me the address again it would be appreciated

Thanks

Marc


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<MESSAGE index="38777">
From: 


Deb H-J <dhj4@y...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 4, 2003  1:06
am
Subject:  RE: Possible new CD


James:

<< Right after I turned off the TV because I couldn't
watch it anymore, I sat down at my piano and started
picking out some notes. I've just got the basic
melody and probably sequencer line, but since I
consider it inspired by the Columbia, I was planning
to dedicate it to that idea. >>

I think we all feel a certain closeness to the space
missions, though, none of us have the same 'intimacy'
with the program that you have. As someone who
remembers the world from pre-Sputnik times (but
barely), I think we take the idea of safe travel into
space for granted. It would be ironic if an accident
like this helped to spur development and funding of
the space program. 

Maybe they'll find oil on Mars ;o]

Best wishes,

Deb H-J
dhj4@y...


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<MESSAGE index="38778">
From: 


David Dunham <tandreamelp@y...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 4, 2003  3:44
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: (OT) Red shift 'Wild' CDR wanted please


Hi Matt. I would also like to get a copy of 'Wild'
Please contact me off list what you need Thanks 
Dave
--- Matthew Sawyer <matthewsawyer@b...>
wrote:
> From: 'Erik Sanborn' <esanborn@n...>
> 
> > I would be interested in a copy of 'Wild' also.
> Please contact me off-list.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Erik Sanborn
> > esanborn@n...
> 
> 
> I've got it. CDR trades preferred. Anyone interested
> please contact me off-list.
> 
> 
> Maff
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
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<MESSAGE index="38779">
From: 


'Georg Oppenberg' <Georg.Oppenberg@g...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 4, 2003  7:52
am
Subject:  Re: TT3 download via FTP


Hi,

I was the one replying. The download server is ftp:\\tt.rondua.de. It is
up and running, but lacks the TT3 SHN files. I'm still waiting for
Michael Berling to release the SHN discs. He wants to put the artwork on
the SHN discs and waited for the completion of the covers. He also
stressed, that he does not want to releases unfinished discs beforehand.
There should be one definitive set of SHN discs. Therefore I don't think
that putting up a FTP server with SHN files extracted from a second or
third generation copy of Redbook CDs (like Robert offered in his
followup) is a good idea. We have to wait patiently till the SHN discs
get released. I think it will be worth waiting.

Cheers
Georg

> Hi
> 
> A couple of weeks back I asked if TT3 was going to be 
> availble for download.
> 
> I got a reply back from some-one with the address of their 
> server (I think
> they were in Germany - the address ended .de) but I've lost 
> the message.
> 
> If the person could send me the address again it would be appreciated
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Marc


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<MESSAGE index="38780">
From: 


Marko Marin <rubyconist@y...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 4, 2003  8:09
am
Subject:  [tadream] OT: Armageddon


Does anyone here own a copy of Armageddon's bootleg
score? It contains (as far as I know) 2 discs and it
has all the music composed by Trevor Rabin and Harry
Gregson-Williams (Harry's music is missing from the
official score release). I would like to trade or buy
it. Contact me off list.

Regards,
Marko Marin

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<MESSAGE index="38781">
From: 


'braddito <toby.braddick@u...>' <toby.braddick@u...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 4, 2003  10:35
am
Subject:  TD UK tour programmes 1974 - 1990


Thanks to Daniel Fishman and Chris Wojtecki kindly adding scans of 
their precious programmes to my own collection, I now have on one CDR 
all the above. Thanks also to Martin K at TDI for advising that this 
is OK to offer for distribution by way of trade only.

I'm hoping to have copies ready for them plus some others in time for 
the Astoria show - I'll exchange for 1 blank branded CDR or 50p to 
cover the cost of my CDR. Please contact me off list if interested - 
I'd prefer to pass them on to non-UK residents at the show first to 
cut postage costs.

Toby


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<MESSAGE index="38782">
From: 


jerome <ssaalyersjj@y...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 4, 2003  10:35
am
Subject:  Tribute CD offically underway


hi, everyone...

just thought i'd let you know how the Tribute CD is shaping up... 

i will try and keep the posts down to a bare minimum concerning this project...


any questions or comments might be better directed to me offlist...

at this point, it looks like we will have contributions from:

Fred Yargui
Nightbirds
Olyam
Dr. Strange
Ionic
Thomas Soucheleau
James Owens
Dale Kay

i've contacted Richard offline and am waiting to hear from him... was there
anyone else who wanted to participate that i've missed... please email me soon,
and offlist... the deadline to have the mastered tracks to me is 1 Mar 2003...

yannick edom will be doing the artwork and as soon as the CD is done and sent
to NASA, i will organize a tree for those on the list who would like to have a
copy...

thanks to all for the ideas and support... i expect this to be a wonderful
tribute...

ciao!

jerome


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<MESSAGE index="38783">
From: 


Zmicer vasilkou <zmicer_was7@y...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 4, 2003  2:37
am
Subject:  RE: [tadream] TT3 download via FTP


Hi!
Can i realy download TT3 via FTP?
Please tell me.
Thanks.
Zmicer
Robert Asmus <asmus0324@c...> wrote:If my branch can get me my copy of TT3.
I will make the TT3 set
available on my ftp. But I do not know who my branch is yet. I now
only put my ftp online for special reasons like this.

Robert Asmus

-----Original Message-----
From: Marc Dodsworth [mailto:marcd@i...] 
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 6:28 PM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] TT3 download via FTP

Hi

A couple of weeks back I asked if TT3 was going to be availble for
download.

I got a reply back from some-one with the address of their server (I
think
they were in Germany - the address ended .de) but I've lost the message.

If the person could send me the address again it would be appreciated

Thanks

Marc


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<MESSAGE index="38784">
From: 


'Carlos Oliveira' <caobe@n...> 
Date:  Sat Jan 25, 2003  3:54
am
Subject:  [tadream] Re: (OT) Red shift 'Wild' CDR wanted please


I like this one too, let's trade?...

Thankx
Carlos Oliveira from Portugal
caobe@n...


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<MESSAGE index="38785">
From: 


René Brenner <rene.brenner@f...> <rene.brenner@f...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 4, 2003  3:50
pm
Subject:  OT: Software Modular System


From the arturia.com website:

The software, which is (for the moment...) called Modular System, is 
a faithful representation of one of the modular analog synthesizers 
best known and loved by musicians since the end of the 60's.
The closest possible emulation of the characteristics of this 
legendary modular synthesizer was made possible by a new technology 
developed by Arturia, baptized TAE®.

See it now =)
http://www.arturia.com/images/modular/bigmodular.jpg

Rene


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<MESSAGE index="38786">
From: 


mengels@w... 
Date:  Tue Feb 4, 2003  3:56
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] OT: Software Modular System


Citeren 'René Brenner <rene.brenner@f...>' <rene.brenner@f...>:

> See it now =)
> http://www.arturia.com/images/modular/bigmodular.jpg

I like how they named the image: bigmodular.jpg.
It can only be as big as your monitor. :-)
(and only sound as good as your soundcard, but you can
probably save it as wav internally).

Marcel
http://home.wanadoo.nl/mengels
mengels@w...


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<MESSAGE index="38787">
From: 


'Gibbons, Conrad' <conrad.gibbons@l...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 4, 2003  4:02
pm
Subject:  One spare ticket for the London concert and wanted!


Yo folks!

A friend from Finland will come with me from Ireland for the concert next week.
Might anyone know if there are still tickets available? I think it is cheaper
to buy a ticket at the venue. Is this correct?

Looking forward to seeing some old friends at the gig! I will be in London
from the Thursday if anyone wants to meet!

Regards,

Conrad

	
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<MESSAGE index="38788">
From: 


'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 4, 2003  5:43
pm
Subject:  TT3 Structure now online


The tree structure for TT3 is finally available, and you can find it by going to
the database section of the group at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tadream/database .

Select the 'TT3 - branch/leaf assignments database' (NOT the TT3 signup roster).

Locate yourself in the database by doing a search for your name. The search
results will show you your level in the tree, your supplier, your suppliers
email address, and a list of your leaves if you signed up as a branch. Please
email your supplier to make arrangements. If your supplier is shown as 'ROOT
Redbook' or 'ROOT SHN', you are at the top of the tree and will be contacted by
your supplier shortly.

The structure was compiled from everyone who signed up in the main TT3 database
as of last weekend, and a list we have of everyone who signed up as a permanent
tree member after TT1. If you are not listed in the database, you are not
currently on the TT3 tree.

For those who signed up asking to download, you have been assigned as SHN
leaves. I believe Robert Armus will be offering an FTP download for the SHNs,
but if for some reason this does not work out you will still have the option of
a mail supplier if you wish.

And finally, after I post this message, a dozen people will suddenly perk up and
ask 'what is this TT malarkey and how do I sign up?'. So, we've left some
branches open throught the tree to accomodate latecomers. I will try and assign
these latecomers to the free branches. None of the branches will have to supply
more leaves than they offered to when they signed up.

If you find you are not on the tree and want to participate, please DO NOT
attempt to add yourself to the TT3 signup database, but instead email me
directly at maff@m... . I'll try and add you as space permits.


Maff


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<MESSAGE index="38789">
From: 


'Colin Jouxson <convention24@y...>' <convention24@y...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 4, 2003  9:04
pm
Subject:  Astoria 15th Feb.URGENT (Help needed).


Hello All
Just been hit with a sudden bombshell,the mate who was driving us to 
London on the 15TH of Feb has pulled out due to work commitments,i am 
just about to book a return coach ticket from Cardiff to Victoria 
Station London,does anyone know the distance from Victoria to the 
Astoria hall,how long would it take,could i take another bus from 
Victoria to Charring Cross,or would the tube be easier?Another 
problem is i will have to stay in London overnight,and catch the 
return coach from Victoria at 11.00 am on the Sunday morning.Does 
anyone know where i could get a reasonable hotel,or is there any 
fellow TD fans who would be willing to share a room,i will of course 
honour all equal costs.I really am in need of some help here,any 
forthcoming would be very much appreciated,theres no way i can miss 
this one.Heres hoping.
Best regards
Colin
South Wales UK


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<MESSAGE index="38790">
From: 


'David Wakefield' <yahoo@b...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 4, 2003  10:35
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Astoria 15th Feb.URGENT (Help needed).


Colin,

go to www.yell.co.uk and put in the Astoria and then look at the map. You
will
see that there is a tube station right next to it. As for accomodation, I
was getting
prices for £25 pp for a bed and breakfast. Again have a look at https://www
hol.co.uk/.

Dave W

-------Original Message-------

From: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 21:04:31
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] Astoria 15th Feb.URGENT (Help needed).

Hello All
Just been hit with a sudden bombshell,the mate who was driving us to 
London on the 15TH of Feb has pulled out due to work commitments,i am 
just about to book a return coach ticket from Cardiff to Victoria 
Station London,does anyone know the distance from Victoria to the 
Astoria hall,how long would it take,could i take another bus from 
Victoria to Charring Cross,or would the tube be easier?Another 
problem is i will have to stay in London overnight,and catch the 
return coach from Victoria at 11.00 am on the Sunday morning.Does 
anyone know where i could get a reasonable hotel,or is there any 
fellow TD fans who would be willing to share a room,i will of course 
honour all equal costs.I really am in need of some help here,any 
forthcoming would be very much appreciated,theres no way i can miss 
this one.Heres hoping.
Best regards
Colin
South Wales UK


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<MESSAGE index="38791">
From: 


'Adele Outland' <outlanda60@h...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 5, 2003  12:20
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Overmodulated


Would someone mind explaining what this word, overmodulated, means in terms 
of music? Perhaps it would explain why my tape hits a point where it sounds 
just awful. I just assumed the tape was going bad, or my recorder did at 
that point(I burned out a couple taping lots of TD goodies). Other than this 
area toward the end, the rest sounds ok. It's such a weird concert in the 
middle with all kinds of strange sounds. Almost like Reims, but with no 
redeeming rhythm to rescue it. I've only played it a couple of times for 
obvious reasons so don't relish playing it again to describe it better. 
8-Dell


As time slips into memory, memory fades into dreams.


>From: Falcon <falcon@r...>
>Reply-To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
>To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [tadream] re-Tangerine-Dream.The Greatest
>Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2003 19:19:36 +0100
>
>At 12:33 03.02.2003 -0500, you wrote:
> >: Los Angeles Greek Theater 7-77;might be a good concert if my tape
> >weren't warping.
>
>You mean, your tape isnt heavily overmodulated ? (like mine)
>
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<MESSAGE index="38792">
From: 


Eric Williamson <erwill@s...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 5, 2003  12:44
am
Subject:  Re: Overmodulated


Quoting Adele Outland <outlanda60@h...>:
> Would someone mind explaining what this word, overmodulated, means in terms

in the broadcast (radio/tv) industry, 'overmodulated' is generally used instead 
of 'overdriven' (which is more of a recording industry term) or 'distorted' 
(which usually indicates the same thing, but isn't the 'proper king's english' 
use of the term).

in television land, when your audio signal 'overmodulates', it bleeds over into 
the video signal. because the video is working at a completely different 
frequency range than audio, it's not much of a problem.

when your _video_ signal overmodulates (goes above the level of 100 IRE or some 
other accepted output level standard), then it bleeds over to the audio side 
and starts buzzing horribly.

btw, this is a gross generalisation of the way i remember things to be when i 
worked in TV. i've probably got the whole thing munged beyond the 'overdriven' 
part.

---
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<MESSAGE index="38793">
From: 


'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 5, 2003  12:52
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Overmodulated


clipping of the signal too...

think of sound as sine waves.

dale

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Eric Williamson' <erwill@s...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 4:44 PM
Subject: [tadream] Re: Overmodulated


> Quoting Adele Outland <outlanda60@h...>:
> > Would someone mind explaining what this word, overmodulated, means in
terms
>
> in the broadcast (radio/tv) industry, 'overmodulated' is generally used
instead
> of 'overdriven' (which is more of a recording industry term) or
'distorted'
> (which usually indicates the same thing, but isn't the 'proper king's
english'
> use of the term).
>
> in television land, when your audio signal 'overmodulates', it bleeds over
into
> the video signal. because the video is working at a completely different
> frequency range than audio, it's not much of a problem.
>
> when your _video_ signal overmodulates (goes above the level of 100 IRE or
some
> other accepted output level standard), then it bleeds over to the audio
side
> and starts buzzing horribly.
>
> btw, this is a gross generalisation of the way i remember things to be
when i
> worked in TV. i've probably got the whole thing munged beyond the
'overdriven'
> part.
>
> ---
> Eric Williamson
> www.suitandtieguy.com
>
>
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<MESSAGE index="38794">
From: 


'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 5, 2003  1:02
am
Subject:  TT3 Structure now online - Additional notes


Since posting the tree structure I've been mailed by a few people asking to be
added. I've been ammending the database, adding people where I can, and I'll
probably be doing that for the next couple of days. This means your branch/leaf
assignments may change, so before any of you rush to make arrangements with your
suppliers I suggest you hold on for a few days.


Maff


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<MESSAGE index="38795">
From: 


Morgan Feldon <feldon@f...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 5, 2003  5:56
am
Subject:  Re: Overmodulation


>Adele Outland asked:
>
>Would someone mind explaining what this word, overmodulated, means in terms
>of music? Perhaps it would explain why my tape hits a point where it sounds
>just awful.

Imagine you are flying an airplane right above the mountains so that you 
can get a really good view of the mountains. If you are too high above the 
mountains, then you can't get a good photo of them. So you fly as close as 
possible but without endangering yourself.

What happens if you reach a mountain range that is much taller but you do 
not increase the altitude on the plane?

For some of us, an overmodulated recording is almost as disastrous!


Finding out that the only 'good' recordings of a favorite concert are 
heavily overmodulated will make you want to crash a plane into a 
mountainside too. Ok, maybe not.

-Morgan


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<MESSAGE index="38796">
From: 


'Admin' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 5, 2003  6:06
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Overmodulation


well ...

pity the recording engineer who is loosing their hearing ...

Remember Monet had a had problem of leaving items alone... or is that a
urban legend now?

dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Morgan Feldon' <feldon@f...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 9:56 PM
Subject: [tadream] Re: Overmodulation


>
> >Adele Outland asked:
> >
> >Would someone mind explaining what this word, overmodulated, means in
terms
> >of music? Perhaps it would explain why my tape hits a point where it
sounds
> >just awful.
>
> Imagine you are flying an airplane right above the mountains so that you
> can get a really good view of the mountains. If you are too high above the
> mountains, then you can't get a good photo of them. So you fly as close as
> possible but without endangering yourself.
>
> What happens if you reach a mountain range that is much taller but you do
> not increase the altitude on the plane?
>
> For some of us, an overmodulated recording is almost as disastrous!
>
>
> Finding out that the only 'good' recordings of a favorite concert are
> heavily overmodulated will make you want to crash a plane into a
> mountainside too. Ok, maybe not.
>
> -Morgan
>
>
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<MESSAGE index="38797">
From: 


'braddito <toby.braddick@u...>' <toby.braddick@u...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 5, 2003  8:57
am
Subject:  Re: Astoria 15th Feb.URGENT - care re tube trains


Anyone not familiar with London needs to know that there was an 
accident on the Central line (red on the maps) a couple of weekends 
ago. At present, that line and the 'Waterloo and City' are shut and 
other lines are overcrowded at peak times. 5pm onwards tends to be 
busy around Oxford Street and other West End locations on a Saturday, 
so be prepared and allow a bit of extra time for your journey.

At present, you need to get to 'Tottenham Court Road' on the Northern 
Line - western section (Black) and walk south down Charing Cross 
Road, or 'Leicester Square' on the Northern or Piccadilly Line (Dark 
blue) and walk northwards.

I'll post an update on the situation closer to the date as some of 
the Central Line may be reopening.

Toby

--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'David Wakefield' <yahoo@b...> wrote:
> Colin,
> 
> go to www.yell.co.uk and put in the Astoria and then look at the 
map. You
> will
> see that there is a tube station right next to it. As for 
accomodation, I
> was getting
> prices for £25 pp for a bed and breakfast. Again have a look at 
https://www
> hol.co.uk/.
> 
> Dave W
> 
> -------Original Message-------
> 
> From: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 21:04:31
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [tadream] Astoria 15th Feb.URGENT (Help needed).
> 
> Hello All
> Just been hit with a sudden bombshell,the mate who was driving us 
to 
> London on the 15TH of Feb has pulled out due to work commitments,i 
am 
> just about to book a return coach ticket from Cardiff to Victoria 
> Station London,does anyone know the distance from Victoria to the 
> Astoria hall,how long would it take,could i take another bus from 
> Victoria to Charring Cross,or would the tube be easier?Another 
> problem is i will have to stay in London overnight,and catch the 
> return coach from Victoria at 11.00 am on the Sunday morning.Does 
> anyone know where i could get a reasonable hotel,or is there any 
> fellow TD fans who would be willing to share a room,i will of 
course 
> honour all equal costs.I really am in need of some help here,any 
> forthcoming would be very much appreciated,theres no way i can miss 
> this one.Heres hoping.
> Best regards
> Colin
> South Wales UK
> 
> 
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> 
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> 
> . 
> 
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<MESSAGE index="38798">
From: 


'Ray Hallett' <sequentc@h...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 5, 2003  10:24
am
Subject:  15th Feb biggest demonstation in the UK to be held in london picadilly circus


FYI it is hoped that the largest demonstration of its kind is being held in 
London on 15th Feb.... all trains, coaches and cars are heading towards 
london to demonstrate against war.... due to recent political events........ 
here is an extract from the BBC page today. So expect some transport 
problems.


MASS SIT-DOWN after big national march in London

Location: Piccadilly Circus, London ,
Saturday, 15 February 2003, from 17:00 onwards, Sit Down occurs at 
Piccadilly Circus, but assemble first at Green Park We gather at 5pm in 
Green Park, near Green Park tube. Then head for Eros, Piccadilly Circus 
where the mass non-violent civil disobedience will take place. See ARROW 
website for further details. LOVE NOT WAR, PEACE NOT HATE. Called by ARROW, 
National CND and others. Organised by ARROW, 0845 458 2564


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<MESSAGE index="38799">
From: 


'Pergamon' <pergamon@g...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 5, 2003  10:30
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] 15th Feb biggest demonstation in the UK to be held in london picadilly circus


>
> where the mass non-violent civil disobedience will take place.

What a funny choice of words........disobedience.....I guess the freedom of
speech and opinion apparently is considered disobedience at
BBC...............=O)

Jan


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<MESSAGE index="38800">
From: 


Heiko Heerssen <heiko.heerssen@h...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 5, 2003  10:53
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] 15th Feb biggest demonstation in the UK to be held in london picadilly circus


> FYI it is hoped that the largest demonstration of its kind is being held in
> London on 15th Feb.... all trains, coaches and cars are heading towards
> london to demonstrate against war.... due to recent political events........
> here is an extract from the BBC page today. So expect some transport
> problems.
>
> MASS SIT-DOWN after big national march in London

so it seems we will be at the right place but at the wrong time!...Thank God I
will arrive at Heathrow Airport in the early morning hours, so maybe it's better
to walk to London instead of taking the train...might be faster ;-)

Heiko


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38801">
From: 
'Brian Stewart' <pogofish@h...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 5, 2003  12:16
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] 15th Feb biggest demonstation in the UK to be held in london picad


Hi

I've been wondering how this is going to affect things! I'm flying into 
Gatwick for @08:30 (Leaving home at 4am!) along with some friends who intend 
to go on the demo at @12. There are two massing points - one behind the 
British Museum, just north of the Astoria & the other on the Embankment. 
The rally is to be in Hyde Park & threats of a ban have receeded. I've seen 
some talk of an 'unoffical' demo breaking off to rally in Grovesnor Square 
(American Embassy). Once its over I doubt it will affect us too much. Just 
that it might be a good idea to find somewhere to put your feet-up and watch 
the spectacle for an hour or two around lunch time. Or take part, if that 
is your thing. Whatever, it could be an interesting time to be in London.

See you all there

Best

Brian


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<MESSAGE index="38802">
From: 


'braddito <toby.braddick@u...>' <toby.braddick@u...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 5, 2003  1:02
pm
Subject:  Re: 15th Feb biggest demonstation in the UK to be held in london picad


Just be careful if you are hanging around near protesters. While the 
majority of them will stick to the guidelines of a peaceful 
demonstration, some other recent protests have been infiltrated by 
people just wanting to cause trouble - possibly attacking US linked 
outlets this time. The Metropolitan Police seem to get good inside 
info on this and also have a clever tactic of penning protesters in 
to a small area for 6 or more hours - if you are near them, they will 
probably include you and detain you regardless of any explanation you 
give. 

My advice would be to keep well away from Green Park, Piccadilly and 
Grosvenor Square and don't use buses to get around as they probably 
won't be moving.

Regards
Toby

--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Brian Stewart' <pogofish@h...> wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> I've been wondering how this is going to affect things! I'm flying 
into 
> Gatwick for @08:30 (Leaving home at 4am!) along with some friends 
who intend 
> to go on the demo at @12. There are two massing points - one 
behind the 
> British Museum, just north of the Astoria & the other on the 
Embankment. 
> The rally is to be in Hyde Park & threats of a ban have receeded. 
I've seen 
> some talk of an 'unoffical' demo breaking off to rally in Grovesnor 
Square 
> (American Embassy). Once its over I doubt it will affect us too 
much. Just 
> that it might be a good idea to find somewhere to put your feet-up 
and watch 
> the spectacle for an hour or two around lunch time. Or take part, 
if that 
> is your thing. Whatever, it could be an interesting time to be in 
London.
> 
> See you all there
> 
> Best
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _________________________________________________________________
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<MESSAGE index="38803">
From: 


Paul Fellows <pfellows@c...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 5, 2003  1:14
pm
Subject:  [tadream] Heads up


Hi all,

Heads up all those who will be in the Jack Horner in the afternoon before
the gig. This is just to know - I made a list for the last London concert
of people who would be in the pub next to the Shepherd's Bush Empire in May
2001, and we got quite a sizeable group - maybe Klaus Beschorner will be
there this time :-)

Paul Fellows (France)


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<MESSAGE index="38804">
From: 


'Ray Hallett' <sequentc@h...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 5, 2003  1:28
pm
Subject:  Demonstration and Tuibe Closures 15/2


As someone pointed out currently the Central Line and Waterloo and City 
lines are closed in both directions with a re-open date of Mid-Feb. This 
news is a real pain for all travellers in London, together with the planned 
demonstration in London on 15th, there will be some disruption and pain in 
travelling in London on the day. As I previously stated it is hoped that 
the demonstration will be the biggest ever turnout to take place in London 
for peace. Why do these things happen to coincide with the TD gig?!


Some links to the current situation on the underground in London:

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/service_rt_all.shtml
http://www.thetube.com/


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<MESSAGE index="38805">
From: 
'Brian Stewart' <pogofish@h...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 5, 2003  2:08
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: 15th Feb biggest demonstation in the UK to be held in london p


Hi

I've had experience of just how touchy/heavy handed London Police can be at 
political events. Not nice at all, but it is an important statement for 
some.

B


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 billythefish01 <mudspanker@y...> 
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2/5/2003


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38806">
From: 


'billythefish01 <mudspanker@y...>' <mudspanker@y...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 5, 2003  2:26
pm
Subject:  Re: Heads up


I hope to be there, but my flight from France does not get in until 
15-50 hrs. I will probably not get there until 6pm, by which time we 
should be at the Astoria...

Biting my nails in case of a delay.

BTF


--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Paul Fellows <pfellows@c...> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Heads up all those who will be in the Jack Horner in the afternoon 
before
> the gig. This is just to know - I made a list for the last London 
concert
> of people who would be in the pub next to the Shepherd's Bush 
Empire in May
> 2001, and we got quite a sizeable group - maybe Klaus Beschorner 
will be
> there this time :-)
> 
> Paul Fellows (France)


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 38807 
 Re: Heads up re London flights

 braddito <toby.braddick@u...> 
 braddito

 Wed 
2/5/2003


  3 KB 


 38810 
 Re: Heads up

 Brian Stewart 
   
 Wed 
2/5/2003


  2 KB 


 38814 
 Re: Heads up

 Chris Owen 
 ledjarde2000

 Wed 
2/5/2003


  2 KB 


 38825 
 Re: Heads up

 sking83212@a... 
 sking542002

 Thu 
2/6/2003


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38807">
From: 


'braddito <toby.braddick@u...>' <toby.braddick@u...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 5, 2003  2:43
pm
Subject:  Re: Heads up re London flights


The tube problem will have most effect on people arriving at London 
Stansted airport as the train network goes to Liverpool Street which 
is on the wrong side of the tube accident. If you are using Stansted, 
you should change at Tottenham Hale and use the Victoria Line (Light 
blue) to get to the West End. Also, if you are going home from 
Stansted on Sunday, there is no train service at all - it's an 
express bus service from Liverpool Street station only, so allow 
about 2.5 hours from there (it may be quicker, but it's a lousy 
route).

Toby

--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'billythefish01 <mudspanker@y...>' 
<mudspanker@y...> wrote:
> I hope to be there, but my flight from France does not get in until 
> 15-50 hrs. I will probably not get there until 6pm, by which time 
we 
> should be at the Astoria...
> 
> Biting my nails in case of a delay.
> 
> BTF
> 
> 
> --- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Paul Fellows <pfellows@c...> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > Heads up all those who will be in the Jack Horner in the 
afternoon 
> before
> > the gig. This is just to know - I made a list for the last 
London 
> concert
> > of people who would be in the pub next to the Shepherd's Bush 
> Empire in May
> > 2001, and we got quite a sizeable group - maybe Klaus Beschorner 
> will be
> > there this time :-)
> > 
> > Paul Fellows (France)


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38808">
From: 


'billythefish01 <mudspanker@y...>' <mudspanker@y...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 5, 2003  3:38
pm
Subject:  Re: 15th Feb biggest demonstation in the UK to be held in london p


I got caught up in the Criminal Rights Bill riot, stuck between the 
police horses and rioters. They could see I was not one of them 
though and let me through.

The biggest risk is when they try to disperse everyone from the 
Park. Hopefuly this will occur whilst we are still in the theatre. 

BTF


--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Brian Stewart' <pogofish@h...> 
wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi
> 
> I've had experience of just how touchy/heavy handed London Police 
can be at 
> political events. Not nice at all, but it is an important 
statement for 
> some.
> 
> B
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _________________________________________________________________
> Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends 
> http://messenger.msn.co.uk


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38809">
From: 
'Brian Stewart' <pogofish@h...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 5, 2003  4:44
pm
Subject:  [tadream] Tube re-opening 13th


Hi

LU are planning to re-open the tube lines on or about the 13th, looks like 
one of the potential problems will be lessened.


'London Underground (LU) hopes to restore services on the Waterloo and City 
line on 13 February.

It may also start running a limited shuttle service to Stratford on the 
eastern section of the Central Line.'


Link:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2729105.stm


B


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38810">
From: 
'Brian Stewart' <pogofish@h...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 5, 2003  4:56
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Heads up


Hi

I'm just catching-up on a huge backlog of e-mail so I'm not up to speed on 
whats happening before the concert, but if there is a list of attendees 
being compiled again, please add my name to it.

Thanks

Brian


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38811">
From: 


'Strimples' <squonk@e...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 5, 2003  5:33
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] TT3 Structure now online - Additional notes


Where is the structure? I am a supplier. but who is mine?

Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: Matthew Sawyer <matthewsawyer@b...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 8:02 PM
Subject: [tadream] TT3 Structure now online - Additional notes


> Since posting the tree structure I've been mailed by a few people
asking to be
> added. I've been ammending the database, adding people where I can,
and I'll
> probably be doing that for the next couple of days. This means your
branch/leaf
> assignments may change, so before any of you rush to make arrangements
with your
> suppliers I suggest you hold on for a few days.
>
>
> Maff
>
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
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>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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>
>


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38812">
From: 


'strimples <squonk@e...>' <squonk@e...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 5, 2003  6:16
pm
Subject:  My Supplier


Hello, If my supplier Is ROOTRedbook Does this person contact me? I 
have not heard anything yet.


Thanks, Steve


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 Matthew Sawyer 
 matthewsawyer

 Wed 
2/5/2003


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38813">
From: 


'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 5, 2003  6:34
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] My Supplier


> Hello, If my supplier Is ROOTRedbook Does this person contact me? I
> have not heard anything yet.


As noted on the database I'm still making ammendments. The Root SHN/Redbook
thing will change shortly to list your finalised supplier.

Maff


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38814">
From: 


'Chris Owen' <chris@o...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 6, 2003  3:17
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Heads up


If I can get past the snow, peace demonstrations and the usual London
traffic, I certainly hope to be there Paul.

- Chris Owen


> Hi all,
>
> Heads up all those who will be in the Jack Horner in the afternoon before
> the gig. This is just to know - I made a list for the last London concert
> of people who would be in the pub next to the Shepherd's Bush Empire in
May
> 2001, and we got quite a sizeable group - maybe Klaus Beschorner will be
> there this time :-)
>
> Paul Fellows (France)


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38815">
From: 


'fozziebear' <fozziebear.beehive@b...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 5, 2003  7:40
pm
Subject:  15 February


Demonstrations are not the only thing you need to be aware of.

There will be maintenance works carried on some train lines. Check your train
times. It affects the services that I will be using. 

David


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38816">
From: 


'tei waz' <teiwazbarana@h...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 5, 2003  7:57
pm
Subject:  TT3 structure/take my spot


tried to update my info on the TT3 structure--got the usual unauthorized 
message, so Maff or someone who has edit permission--please mark me as 
'received' as I've had my TT3 for a few weeks now.
That could/should open up a spot on my branch for a latecomer.

thanks in advance,

--T


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38817">
From: 


'Bill Fox' <billfox@f...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 5, 2003  9:03
pm
Subject:  EMUSIC Monthly Top 20 Report for January, 2003


WDIY 88.1 FM 'EMUSIC' Top 20 report to
New Age Voice for January, 2003.
Shows #302 to #306; 2-January-2003 to 30-January-2003
Reported in non-ranked order.
Compiled by Bill Fox, billfox@f...

CONTACT: billfox@f...
http://wdiyfm.org/programs/emusic


ARTIST - ALBUM TITLE - LABEL
============================
Amongst Myselves - Sacred Black - RMC Records
Andy Pickford and Paul Nagle - Ramayana - Neu Harmony
Brannan Lane - Deep Unknown - brannanlane.com
Brannan Lane - Hypnotic Drift - brannanlane.com
Brannan Lane - To Earth and Back - Space for Music
Brannan Lane - Troposphere - World Circle
Eppie E. Hulshof - Floating Waves - Quantum
Ixohoxi - Somnabulae - MP3.com
Mark Jenkins - Sequencer Loops - AMP
Mike Griffin and Dave Fulton - Imprint - Hypnos
Navigator - Northern Consequence - Invisible Shadows
Orbital Decay - Orbital Decay - none
Ozone Player - E - Visual Power
Redshift - Halo - Distant Sun
Redshift - Siren - Distant Sun
Skin Mechanix - The Secret Life of Angels - InfectionMusic
Thought Guild - [Context] - HRR
Under the Dome - Bellerophon - Neu Harmony
Various Artists - The Gatherings - Synkronos
Zero Ohms and Brannan Lane - Soundfall to the Infinite - Space for Music


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38818">
From: 


'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 6, 2003  12:00
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] TT3 Structure now online


I've had to make some major changes to the TT3 assignments database this
evening, and a few of you will find yourself with different suppliers. Sorry for
the disruption, it was truly unavoidable. Please swing by the database and check
your updated info.

For anyone who finds viewing the database a problem, please remember you will
need to sign in to the group with your Yahoo ID.


Cheers,


Maff


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38819">
From: 


'braddito <toby.braddick@u...>' <toby.braddick@u...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 6, 2003  8:22
am
Subject:  Manchester 80 - poss new source tape ?


Maff recently transferred my Manchester 80 concert tape to CDR - but 
the track listing doesn't match the art I've seen for other 
recordings, so this is the track list ;

Pt 1 : 42.33 Pt 2 : 40.16 Pt 3 10.59 Pt 4 6.50

Sound quality we rate as 8.

Does anyone have a recording that roughly matches this as I'm 
wondering if this is a new source ? I received the tape from a 
Manchester resident who claimed he was at the show.

Regards
Toby


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 Klaus Beschorner 
   
 Thu 
2/6/2003


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 Re: Manchester 80 - poss new source tape ?

 braddito <toby.braddick@u...> 
 braddito

 Thu 
2/6/2003


  2 KB 


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 Re: Manchester 80 - poss new source tape ?

 Harry 
 dat_dream

 Thu 
2/6/2003


  2 KB 


 38830 
 Re: Manchester 80 - poss new source tape ?

 michaeljean@e... 
 mikejeanwork

 Thu 
2/6/2003


  3 KB 


 38845 
 Re: Manchester 80 - poss new source tape ?

 Klaus Beschorner 
   
 Fri 
2/7/2003


  2 KB 


 40411 
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 Joe Shoults 
 bigstupidgeek

 Tue 
4/22/2003


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38820">
From: 
Klaus Beschorner <klaus@c...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 6, 2003  10:07
am
Subject:  Manchester 80 - poss new source tape ?


answered on the tangerinedream list, where this topic belongs ;-)

cheers,
klaus


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 Re: Manchester 80 - poss new source tape ?

 braddito <toby.braddick@u...> 
 braddito

 Thu 
2/6/2003


  2 KB 


 38828 
 Re: Manchester 80 - poss new source tape ?

 Harry 
 dat_dream

 Thu 
2/6/2003


  2 KB 


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38821">
From: 
Klaus Beschorner <klaus@c...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 6, 2003  10:20
am
Subject:  Heads Up


>maybe Klaus Beschorner will be there this time :-)

Hey, Paul,

I was in a pub in spitting distance from Sh.Bush, just a
different pub, and with different people than you ;-)

Anyway, unfortunately, this year I can't make it, so
here's a golden opportunity for someone who always wanted
to trade with me but never had anything I wanted!

Get in touch with me beforehand, and we'll arrange something
for the 'special show rarity'.

regards,
klaus

-- 

Klaus.Beschorner........................work....+49-7033-45683
Drosselweg.6............................fax.....+49-7033-45631
D-71120.Grafenau........................Mobile.+49-174 3157754
Germany.................................home....+49-7033-45142
............................................http://www.caby.de


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 Re: Heads Up-list

 Paul Fellows 
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 Thu 
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  2 KB 


 38832 
 Re: Heads Up-list

 Janet Wojtecki 
 caw8429

 Thu 
2/6/2003


  3 KB 


 38834 
 Re: Heads Up-list

 moxica@a... 
 moxica93

 Thu 
2/6/2003


  2 KB 


 38836 
 Re: Heads Up-list

 vic rek 
 kyivmission

 Thu 
2/6/2003


  2 KB 


 38840 
 Re: Heads Up-list

 Matthew Stringer 
   
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2/7/2003


  3 KB 


 38841 
 Re: Heads Up-list

 Olav Neander 
 autopoiesis_norway

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2/7/2003


  3 KB 


 38846 
 Re: Heads Up-list

 heiko@o... 
 heineu

 Fri 
2/7/2003


  2 KB 


 38855 
 Re: Heads Up-list

 fozziebear 
 fozziebearbeehive

 Fri 
2/7/2003


  2 KB 


 38874 
 Re: no. 27 on the list of Jack Horner Club, any room for me ?

 giuseppe milazzo 
 deathandtransfiguration

 Sun 
2/9/2003


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38822">
From: 


'braddito <toby.braddick@u...>' <toby.braddick@u...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 6, 2003  11:16
am
Subject:  Re: Manchester 80 - poss new source tape ?


Klaus, what's the tangerinedream list ?

Cheers
Toby
--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Klaus Beschorner <klaus@c...> wrote:
> answered on the tangerinedream list, where this topic belongs ;-)
> 
> cheers,
> klaus


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38823">
From: 


edgar-rainer.berberich@g... 
Date:  Thu Feb 6, 2003  11:29
am
Subject:  Antwort: Re: [tadream] TT3 Structure now online


I'm not listed on the databses structure, but I have received my copy of
TT3 from Heiko Heerssen (Redbook)..
So what can I do ?


Mit freundlichem Grüßen / best regards

Edgar Rainer Berberich

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ausschließen. Der Versand von E-mail dient somit ausschließlich dem
Informationsaustausch.
Due to the fact that E-mails are prone to manipulation and can be
misleading as to the identity of the sender, the foregoing statements and
comments shall have no legal validity. This is for your own protection as
well as ours. Thus, E-mails shall be sent for information purposes only.


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38824">
<YAHOOARCHIVE groupname="tadream">
<MESSAGE index="38824">
From: 


'mike browder <mikebrowder@y...>' <mikebrowder@y...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 6, 2003  12:34
pm
Subject:  TT3: missed sign up. Is it too late to get in?


I missed the sign up for TT3. I don't know how. I thought I had signed up for
all the TT's last time, but I guess I'm quite clueless. If it's too late to get
in, that's cool.

mike

Please email to: <spawnofcthulhu @ webtv.net>


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38825">
From: 


sking83212@a... 
Date:  Wed Feb 5, 2003  2:41
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Heads up


Hi Dreamers

Tangerine Dream........London Astoria..........

'The Jack Horner' Public House ...............Add my name to the list, hope 
to arrive at 4.00pm, pending transport delays/protesters.

I very much look forward to meeting you there.

Counting down the hours!

Steve


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38826">
From: 


'Bill Fox' <billfox@f...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 6, 2003  4:57
pm
Subject:  Playlist for the AM/FM Show for February 1, 2003


[ Best viewed using a fixed spacing font. ]

The Saturday AM/FM Show is hosted every other week by Bill Fox who plays
electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other
genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and
on the internet. Send me comments if you love or hate what I played. I also
host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am.

I played the music of Orbital Decay, the headlining act at the next Soundscapes
Concert Series on February 22, at Bethlehem's IceHouse on Sand Island.

Soundscapes Concert Series http://soundscapes.us


Show #16 February 1, 2003.


PLAYLIST:

Phase I/Space:

ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label)
======================= ======================== ==============================
Orbital Decay The Kea of Sea The Key of Sea (none)
Mikronesia Tradgetyhand Mikronesia (none)

Phase II/Eclectic:

ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label)
======================= ======================== ==============================
Ranga Innocence Radiant Awakening (Sammasati)
Diane Arkenstone Adrift Jewel in the Sun (Neo Pacifica)
Cyrille Verdeaux Spirale d'Amour Best of Rainbow (Clearlight)

Phase III/Progressive Rock:

ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label)
======================= ======================== ==============================
Steve Howe Small Acts of Human Skyline (InsideOut)
Kindness
NDV Dream in Red Karma (Radiant)
Kevin Gilbert Waiting Thud (PRA Records)
Enchant Ultimate Gift Blink of an Eye (InsideOut)
The Flower Kings Silent Inferno Unfold the Future (InsideOut)
Motoi Sakuraba Tone Access Gikyokounsou (Musea)

* = exerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)

I return to the AM/FM Show in two weeks on February 15.

Bill
===============================================================================
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Host of Afterglow on WMUH every Thursday morning from 8:00 to 9:30.
http://soundscapes.us/~bill/amfm http://soundscapes.us/~bill/afterglow
Listen on-line to WMUH at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click REAL AUDIO
Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at
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Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN
To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, go to
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Personal site: http://soundscapes.us/~bill All times are GMT-5:00
SOUNDSCAPES Concert Series: http://soundscapes.us


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38827">
From: 
chris.hodgson@b... 
Date:  Thu Feb 6, 2003  3:25
pm
Subject:  London Astoria - 2 tickets available


My two friends have pulled out of going....
Does anyone need two tickets to this gig?
I'm only able to post these to a UK address, contact
me to discuss this.

Looks like it could be a bad night with all of these
protests going on.

Microbe_Maniac

	
</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38828">
From: 


Harry <TaDream@c...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 6, 2003  2:46
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Manchester 80 - poss new source tape ?


on 2/6/03 4:07 AM, Klaus Beschorner at klaus@c... wrote:

> answered on the tangerinedream list, where this topic belongs ;-)
> 
> cheers,
> klaus
> 

Klaus, how about a link for us clueless types? :-)

Dream On


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38829">
From: 


Paul Fellows <pfellows@c...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 6, 2003  6:04
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Heads Up-list


People going to the TD gig at the London Astoria 15/2/03:

Chris Hodgson
Chris Owen
Duncan McKee
Vic Rek
Heiko Heerssen
Alan Miller
Brian Stewart
Toby Braddick
'Billy the Fish'(!)
Steve King
David Wakefield
Colin Jouxson
Conrad Gibbons & Finnish friend
Rainer Rutka
Alistair Hull
Paul Fellows

Wow, we're finally gonna meet the legendary Vic Rek from the US of A :-)

Paul


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 Re: Heads Up-list

 Janet Wojtecki 
 caw8429

 Thu 
2/6/2003


  3 KB 


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 Re: Heads Up-list

 moxica@a... 
 moxica93

 Thu 
2/6/2003


  2 KB 


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 Re: Heads Up-list

 vic rek 
 kyivmission

 Thu 
2/6/2003


  2 KB 


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 Re: Heads Up-list

 Matthew Stringer 
   
 Fri 
2/7/2003


  3 KB 


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 Re: Heads Up-list

 Olav Neander 
 autopoiesis_norway

 Fri 
2/7/2003


  3 KB 


 38846 
 Re: Heads Up-list

 heiko@o... 
 heineu

 Fri 
2/7/2003


  2 KB 


 38855 
 Re: Heads Up-list

 fozziebear 
 fozziebearbeehive

 Fri 
2/7/2003


  2 KB 


 38874 
 Re: no. 27 on the list of Jack Horner Club, any room for me ?

 giuseppe milazzo 
 deathandtransfiguration

 Sun 
2/9/2003


  3 KB 


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 Re: Heads Up-list

 jjank@w... 
 jjank_66

 Sat 
2/8/2003


  5 KB 


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38830">
From: 


'michaeljean@e...' <michaeljean@e...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 6, 2003  6:48
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Manchester 80 - poss new source tape ?


I think what Klaus was getting at is that there are two or more TD
grouplists at Yahoo. This one is 'tadream@yahoogroups.com' (which is a
carryover of the old Univ of Wisconsin list formerly managed by Dave
Datta); and 'tangerinedream@yahoogroups.com' which has a more 'liberal'
discussion policy abut such matters.

MJ

Original Message:
-----------------
From: Harry TaDream@c...
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2003 08:46:30 -0600
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tadream] Manchester 80 - poss new source tape ?


on 2/6/03 4:07 AM, Klaus Beschorner at klaus@c... wrote:

> answered on the tangerinedream list, where this topic belongs ;-)
> 
> cheers,
> klaus
> 

Klaus, how about a link for us clueless types? :-)

Dream On


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38831">
From: 


'Colin Jouxson <convention24@y...>' <convention24@y...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 6, 2003  7:50
pm
Subject:  TD-London Feb 15th


Travel sorted,Hotel Sorted and directions still sketchy,but theres no 
way i can miss the Greatest.Hope to see you all there.

Best regards
Colin South Wales UK


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38832">
From: 


'Janet Wojtecki' <j.wojtecki@d...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 6, 2003  7:52
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Heads Up-list


Add to the list Chris & Jan Wojtecki

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Paul Fellows' <pfellows@c...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Heads Up-list


> People going to the TD gig at the London Astoria 15/2/03:
>
> Chris Hodgson
> Chris Owen
> Duncan McKee
> Vic Rek
> Heiko Heerssen
> Alan Miller
> Brian Stewart
> Toby Braddick
> 'Billy the Fish'(!)
> Steve King
> David Wakefield
> Colin Jouxson
> Conrad Gibbons & Finnish friend
> Rainer Rutka
> Alistair Hull
> Paul Fellows
>
> Wow, we're finally gonna meet the legendary Vic Rek from the US of A :-)
>
> Paul
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38833">
From: 


'Colin Jouxson <convention24@y...>' <convention24@y...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 6, 2003  8:07
pm
Subject:  Re: Heads up


--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Paul Fellows <pfellows@c...> wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Heads up all those who will be in the Jack Horner in the afternoon 
before
> the gig. This is just to know - I made a list for the last London 
concert
> of people who would be in the pub next to the Shepherd's Bush 
Empire in May
> 2001, and we got quite a sizeable group - maybe Klaus Beschorner 
will be
> there this time :-)
> 
> Paul Fellows (France)

Jack Horner here we come.


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38834">
From: 


moxica@a... 
Date:  Thu Feb 6, 2003  7:45
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Heads Up-list


I may not be legendary, but I'll be there, too!

--
Jim Moore, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
moxica@a...
> People going to the TD gig at the London Astoria 15/2/03:
> 
> Chris Hodgson
> Chris Owen
> Duncan McKee
> Vic Rek
> Heiko Heerssen
> Alan Miller
> Brian Stewart
> Toby Braddick
> 'Billy the Fish'(!)
> Steve King
> David Wakefield
> Colin Jouxson
> Conrad Gibbons & Finnish friend
> Rainer Rutka
> Alistair Hull
> Paul Fellows
> 
> Wow, we're finally gonna meet the legendary Vic Rek from the US of A :-)
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com 
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> 
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree 
> 
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 
> 
> 

	
</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38835">
From: 


'michael_berling <webmaster@v...>' <webmaster@v...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 6, 2003  8:30
pm
Subject:  [TT3] SHN Disk File Chart is online


Hi folks,

I've already compiled the disks for the SHN edition of TT3 some weeks 
ago. I'm just waiting for the last piece of artwork (the liner notes 
by Maff) that will be added to the disk set, then distribution of 
the SHN edition will start. Maff has kindly took on the setup of the 
TT3 distribution structure and I think that's a good reason why he is 
probably some days behind his first announcement to complete the 
artwork (which is really awesome once again!)

I had to split some TT3 Volumes across two SHN cdrs so that the whole 
TT3 SHN edition fits on 10 cdrs (in comparision to the 17 redbook 
cdrs). Furthermore I had to change the sequence of volumes for better 
efficience.

The easiest way to create redbook disks from the SHN disks is to copy 
all ten SHN cdrs into one single folder of your harddisk, thus you 
will get a folder with ten subdirectories titled 'Volume17' 
to 'Volume26' (plus the subdirectory 'Artwork'), including all files 
you need for transforming the SHN to WAV files and then burning 
redbooks.

In this case you will need 6.5 Gigabyte free space on your harddisk 
plus the space for the WAV files after extraction.

I'm assuming that some of you might suffer from limited harddisk 
space and have to create the redbooks one by one, only copying the 
needed files for that disk to your harddisk. Thus I've created a 
chart that might be useful for those who will perform this procedure. 
The chart is inspired by that one somebody (don't know who it was) 
created for TT2; you can find it at

http://www.voices-in-the-net.de/TT3disks.htm

There's no need to download the chart, as it's contained on the last 
SHN disk.

Best regards
Michael


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38836">
From: 


'vic rek' <tangerinedream@a...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 6, 2003  8:28
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Heads Up-list


You beat me to it Jim - how often do you have two fans from Roswell
travelling to London for a TD gig. :-)

----- Original Message -----
From: <moxica@a...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Heads Up-list


> I may not be legendary, but I'll be there, too!
>
> --
> Jim Moore, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> moxica@a...
> > People going to the TD gig at the London Astoria 15/2/03:


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38837">
From: 


'Scott' <splumer@w...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 6, 2003  8:53
pm
Subject:  Re: demonstration


>FYI it is hoped that the largest demonstration of its kind is being held in
>London on 15th Feb.... all trains, coaches and cars are heading towards
>london to demonstrate against war.... due to recent political
events........
>here is an extract from the BBC page today. So expect some transport
>problems.
>

Cool! I'd be there if I could. And at that concert thingy. Anyone taping the
show?

Scott


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38838">
From: 


'Michael Jean' <michaeljean@e...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 6, 2003  10:42
pm
Subject:  Travel Alert


http://travel.state.gov/wwc1.html


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38839">
From: 


Jorge Figueiredo <jorgefig@e...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 6, 2003  11:22
pm
Subject:  Legendary Vic Rek (was Re: [tadream] Heads Up-list)


Come on, he's not so difficult to meet, all you have to do is go to a TD 
concert.
He will be there, no matter where... :-))

Have fun guys!

Jorge Figueiredo

On 2/6/2003 6:04 PM, Paul Fellows wrote:
> 
> Wow, we're finally gonna meet the legendary Vic Rek from the US of A :-)


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<MESSAGE index="38840">
From: 
'Matthew Stringer' <qube@f...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 7, 2003  10:18
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Heads Up-list


Add me to that list too.

Cheers

Matthew
>
> > People going to the TD gig at the London Astoria 15/2/03:
> >
> > Chris Hodgson
> > Chris Owen
> > Duncan McKee
> > Vic Rek
> > Heiko Heerssen
> > Alan Miller
> > Brian Stewart
> > Toby Braddick
> > 'Billy the Fish'(!)
> > Steve King
> > David Wakefield
> > Colin Jouxson
> > Conrad Gibbons & Finnish friend
> > Rainer Rutka
> > Alistair Hull
> > Paul Fellows
> >
> > Wow, we're finally gonna meet the legendary Vic Rek from the US of A :-)
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> >
> > Tangerine Tree info at
> > http://www.tadream.net/tree
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38841">
From: 


Olav Neander <oneander@o...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 7, 2003  10:43
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Heads Up-list


Me too!

Olav

http://www.mp3.com/autopoiesis 


Matthew Stringer schrieb:

>Add me to that list too.
>
>Cheers
>
>Matthew
> 
>
>>>People going to the TD gig at the London Astoria 15/2/03:
>>>
>>>Chris Hodgson
>>>Chris Owen
>>>Duncan McKee
>>>Vic Rek
>>>Heiko Heerssen
>>>Alan Miller
>>>Brian Stewart
>>>Toby Braddick
>>>'Billy the Fish'(!)
>>>Steve King
>>>David Wakefield
>>>Colin Jouxson
>>>Conrad Gibbons & Finnish friend
>>>Rainer Rutka
>>>Alistair Hull
>>>Paul Fellows
>>>
>>>Wow, we're finally gonna meet the legendary Vic Rek from the US of A :-)
>>>
>>>Paul
>>>
>>>
>>>----------------------------------------------------_-
>>>To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
>>>----------------------------------------------------_-
>>>Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
>>>http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>>>
>>>Tangerine Tree info at
>>>http://www.tadream.net/tree
>>>
>>>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
>>> 
>>>


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38842">
From: 


'vic rek' <tangerinedream@a...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 7, 2003  11:38
am
Subject:  Re: Legendary Vic Rek (was Re: [tadream] Heads Up-list)


And Jorge has no problem traveling across Europe from Portugal to Poland to
catch a TD gig either :-)
Just wondering why you can't make it this time - it's closer.
Vic

----- Original Message -----
From: Jorge Figueiredo <jorgefig@e...>


> Come on, he's not so difficult to meet, all you have to do is go to a TD
> concert.
> He will be there, no matter where... :-))
>
> Have fun guys!
>
> Jorge Figueiredo


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38843">
From: 
'Brian Stewart' <pogofish@h...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 7, 2003  12:16
pm
Subject:  Jack Horner


Hi

I've been a bit too through in my mailbox clean-out! Can someone repost the 
directions from the Astoria to the Jack Horner? I have lost them.

Thanks

Brian


_________________________________________________________________
Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends 
http://messenger.msn.co.uk


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38844">
From: 


Heiko Heerssen <heiko.heerssen@h...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 7, 2003  12:47
pm
Subject:  The Keep role play


For all of those who think they have everything of 'The Keep' have a
look at this item which is currently on offer at eBAY :-)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3111997598&category=2545

Heiko


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38845">
From: 
Klaus Beschorner <klaus@c...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 7, 2003  12:44
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Manchester 80 - poss new source tape ?


>Klaus, what's the tangerinedream list ?

>Klaus, how about a link for us clueless types? :-)

Hi Toby and Harry,

not only clueless, but lazy, too ;-) ;-)

search for 'tangerinedream' on groups.yahoo.com to find
the evil twin of this list ;-)

best regards,
klaus


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38846">
From: 


<heiko@o...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 7, 2003  12:58
pm
Subject:  Re: Heads Up-list


Hello,

add me and my wife to the list too.

Cheers
heiko - mr. optical
http://www.tribute-to-ashra.de
http://www.opticaldream.de

Sign up for your free PAYPAL account:
https://www.paypal.com/refer/pal=WDJX3DNKVFJ9E

cool link: http://www.klamm.de/?refid=62978


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38847">
From: 


Felna Greymane <greymane@g...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 7, 2003  1:42
pm
Subject:  Contact request


Would Vincent Goudreault please email me? Your email address in the TT3
table is bouncing.

Thanks.

Jeff

	
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<MESSAGE index="38848">
From: 


'Bill Fox' <billfox@f...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 7, 2003  1:54
pm
Subject:  EMUSIC Playlist #307 for February 6, 2003


[ Best viewed using a fixed spacing font. ]

EMUSIC is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday
at 11:00 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton,
PA and Phillipsburg, NJ.

Show #307 February 6, 2003.


RECAP:
On this show, I began a month-long focus on Orbital Decay, a spacemusic duo in
the Quakertown area. who will be at the next Soundscapes Concert Series on
February 22. The Featured CD at midnight was 'Live in Concert.'

The Vinyl Starter was from the LP 'Underwater Sunlight' by Tangerine Dream on
the Relativity label.

Orbital Decay http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic/playlists/2003/focus03.html#feb
Soundscapes Concert Series http://soundscapes.us


PLAYLIST:

ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label)
======================= ======================== ==============================
11:00 pm
Tangerine Dream Underwater Twilight Underwater Sunlight
(Relativity)
Skin Mechanix Interlude at the Edge The Secret Life of Angels
of Known Space (InfectionMusic)
Skin Mechanix ZeitGeist The Secret Life of Angels
(InfectionMusic)
Skin Mechanix A Chromium Dark The Secret Life of Angels
(InfectionMusic)
VA [Oliver Briand] Transparences Dreamwatchers' Tales (Mirage
Creations)
VA [Doktor Strange] To be or not to be Dreamwatchers' Tales (Mirage
Live? Creations)
Paul Ellis Dissolve Into the Liquid Unknown
(Binary)
Paul Ellis Alexandria Into the Liquid Unknown
(Binary)
Paul Ellis Drop Becomes Ocean Into the Liquid Unknown
(Binary)
Under the Dome Liquid Sky Bellerophon (Neu Harmony)
Under the Dome Launch Bellerophon (Neu Harmony)

12:00 am
Under the Dome Drift Bellerophon (Neu Harmony)
Orbital Decay Set #1 Live in Concert (none)
Orbital Decay Salt 4C Re-Entry (none)

1:00 am

* = exerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)


NEXT SHOW:
On the next EMUSIC, I'll begin a month-long focus on Orbital Decay. The
Featured CD at Midnight will be 'The Key of Sea' recorded on Star's End.

The vinyl show starter will be from the LP 'Cluster and Eno' by Cluster and Eno
on Sky Records.

Bill
===============================================================================
Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at
11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and
Phillipsburg. http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic All times are GMT-5:00
Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN
To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, go to
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emusic-wdiy and click on [Join This Group!]
Host of the AM/FM Show on WMUH Allentown 91.7 FM every other Saturday at 6 am.
Host of Afterglow on WMUH every Thursday morning from 8:00 to 9:30.
http://soundscapes.us/~bill/amfm http://soundscapes.us/~bill/afterglow
Listen on-line to WMUH at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click REAL AUDIO
Personal site: http://soundscapes.us/~bill All times are GMT-5:00
SOUNDSCAPES Concert Series: http://soundscapes.us


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38849">
From: 


'David Wakefield' <yahoo@b...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 7, 2003  2:16
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Jack Horner


For those coming to London on the 15th and are not sure of the location of
the Astoria I hope this helps:

The Astoria is on the junction of Shaftesbury Avenue, Tottenham Court Road
and Charing Cross Road. It is directly opposite a large office tower called
Centre Point. The nearest Undergound station is Tottenham Court Road (10
metres). There are a number of pubs in the area - The Tottenham (Shaftesbury
Avenue) is the nearest, looks small from the outside but has a downstairs
area - popular with tourists. The Moon Under Water is 300 metres away in
Charing Cross Road on the same side as the Astoria, a larger pub - a
drinker's watering hole. The Jack Horner is 400 metres away in the Tottenham
Court Road, a larger tradional pub - better for a quieter drink.

I have taken some pictures of the Astoria (showing TD as a forthcoming
attraction) and the 3 pubs if anyone would like pictorial references then
drop me a note off-list and I will email them to you - bear in mind that
they were taken today - a wet Sunday morning so the places will look
different on a Saturday evening (it is a very busy area of town).

Hope to see many of you there......my vote on a meeting place would be the
Jack Horner but happy to go with the flow.


-------Original Message-------

From: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 07, 2003 12:16:48
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] Jack Horner

Hi

I've been a bit too through in my mailbox clean-out! Can someone repost the 
directions from the Astoria to the Jack Horner? I have lost them.

Thanks

Brian


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38850">
From: 


Jorge Figueiredo <jorgefig@e...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 7, 2003  2:44
pm
Subject:  Re: Legendary Vic Rek (was Re: [tadream] Heads Up-list)


Hehehe, I told you I was on holiday. :-)
I'm waiting to know where TD is performing this summer to organize my 
holiday...
Unfortunately this time my job doesn't allow me too leave.

Cheers,

Jorge Figueiredo

((> TD - DSC vol 9 <))


On 2/7/2003 11:38 AM, vic rek wrote:
> And Jorge has no problem traveling across Europe from Portugal to Poland to
> catch a TD gig either :-)
> Just wondering why you can't make it this time - it's closer.
> Vic


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38851">
From: 


'billythefish01 <mudspanker@y...>' <mudspanker@y...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 7, 2003  4:06
pm
Subject:  Re: Jack Horner


Hi all,

This site contains a clear map of the area with the pub clearly 
marked and nearest tube stations. Charing Cross Road is the southern 
continuation of Tottenham Court Road and the Astoria is to the West 
(left) only about 50 yards down from the map.

http://www.professorharbottle.co.uk/pub/londonwestend/jackhorner.html

I am about to depart for a week of snowboarding in France, so will 
not see any more posts after tonight until the day itself!

I really hope there are some TD fans within French air traffic 
control who will let us get home in good time. If I fail, then have 
a pint of London Pride on me (my favourite beverage) and I hope to 
see as many of you as possible after the gig.

All the best,

BTF

(aka Stephen Manship - wearing a black Melrose tour sweatshirt 
(it'll be too cold for T shirts!))


--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Brian Stewart' <pogofish@h...> 
wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> I've been a bit too through in my mailbox clean-out! Can someone 
repost the 
> directions from the Astoria to the Jack Horner? I have lost them.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _________________________________________________________________
> Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends 
> http://messenger.msn.co.uk


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38852">
From: 


'Sean Montgomery <sean@t...>' <sean@t...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 7, 2003  5:27
pm
Subject:  Reviews of TD Resissues


Whereas I think it's safe to say that *most* of us on this list aren't
big fans of TD's 'Pink Years' (1970-1973), it's still though well of
by some rock snobs. Like this guy, who just reviewed the reissues of
Electronic Meditation and Alpha Centauri.

http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/t/tangerine-dream/electronic-medita\
tion-alpha-centauri.shtml


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38853">
From: 
Synthhtnys@a... 
Date:  Fri Feb 7, 2003  6:12
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Reviews of TD Resissues


In a message dated 2/7/2003 9:29:26 AM Pacific Standard Time, sean@t... 
writes:

> Whereas I think it's safe to say that *most* of us on this list aren't
> big fans of TD's 'Pink Years' (1970-1973), it's still though well of
> by some rock snobs. Like this guy, who just reviewed the reissues of
> Electronic Meditation and Alpha Centauri.
> 

*Rock snobs? Maybe it's also safe to say that *some* on this list, 
preferring the latter day melodicism don't get the historical context of the 
band.
Poly


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38854">
From: 


'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 7, 2003  6:25
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Reviews of TD Resissues


label say's

'can of worms'

with a caution note in big letter

'avoid opening'


;-)

rr .r r.r rr I see it's a good day.... with me good eye that is... the bad
one is saying the opposite.. r.r.r.rr

dale

----- Original Message -----
From: <Synthhtnys@a...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Reviews of TD Resissues


> In a message dated 2/7/2003 9:29:26 AM Pacific Standard Time,
sean@t...
> writes:
>
> > Whereas I think it's safe to say that *most* of us on this list aren't
> > big fans of TD's 'Pink Years' (1970-1973), it's still though well of
> > by some rock snobs. Like this guy, who just reviewed the reissues of
> > Electronic Meditation and Alpha Centauri.
> >
>
> *Rock snobs? Maybe it's also safe to say that *some* on this list,
> preferring the latter day melodicism don't get the historical context of
the
> band.
> Poly


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38855">
From: 


'fozziebear' <fozziebear.beehive@b...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 7, 2003  8:19
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Heads Up-list


'People going to the TD gig at the London Astoria 15/2/03'

Add me to the list and work mate Carol

David


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38856">
From: 


'vic rek' <tangerinedream@a...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 7, 2003  8:44
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Contact request


I have one too. Does anyone know how to Contact STEVE MOFFITT ?
Thanks, Vic


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<MESSAGE index="38857">
From: 


'Janet Wojtecki' <j.wojtecki@d...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 7, 2003  8:46
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Reviews of TD Resissues


Tread carefully here, as some veterans were weaned and introduced to TD
during that period. Kosmische music was the portal to a totally new
experience outside of the conventional mainstream psychedelic. Don't knock
it.

Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: <sean@t...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 5:27 PM
Subject: [tadream] Reviews of TD Resissues


> Whereas I think it's safe to say that *most* of us on this list aren't
> big fans of TD's 'Pink Years' (1970-1973), it's still though well of
> by some rock snobs. Like this guy, who just reviewed the reissues of
> Electronic Meditation and Alpha Centauri.
>
>
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/t/tangerine-dream/electronic-me
ditation-alpha-centauri.shtml
>
>
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>
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>
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<MESSAGE index="38858">
From: 


'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 7, 2003  9:05
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Reviews of TD Resissues


well...
I kind of like the old stuff myself.. <------ 'opening the can of worms'
'and not heeding the warning label'

;-)

dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Janet Wojtecki' <j.wojtecki@d...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Reviews of TD Resissues


> Tread carefully here, as some veterans were weaned and introduced to TD
> during that period. Kosmische music was the portal to a totally new
> experience outside of the conventional mainstream psychedelic. Don't knock
> it.
>
> Chris
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <sean@t...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 5:27 PM
> Subject: [tadream] Reviews of TD Resissues
>
>
> > Whereas I think it's safe to say that *most* of us on this list aren't
> > big fans of TD's 'Pink Years' (1970-1973), it's still though well of
> > by some rock snobs. Like this guy, who just reviewed the reissues of
> > Electronic Meditation and Alpha Centauri.
> >
> >
>
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/t/tangerine-dream/electronic-me
> ditation-alpha-centauri.shtml
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
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> >
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<MESSAGE index="38859">
From: 


'Colin Jouxson <convention24@y...>' <convention24@y...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 7, 2003  9:07
pm
Subject:  Re: Contact request


--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'vic rek' <tangerinedream@a...> wrote:
> I have one too. Does anyone know how to Contact STEVE MOFFITT ?
> Thanks, Vic

Hello Vic
This is the last known address that i have found for Steve Moffitt

422 ELMWOOD 2,Lansing, Michigan 48917,USA. Fax.+1 517 626 6783
Sorry no email address.
Hope this helps.

Best regards
Colin
South Wales UK 


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<MESSAGE index="38860">
From: 


'Colin Jouxson <convention24@y...>' <convention24@y...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 7, 2003  9:11
pm
Subject:  Contact Address


Sorry Vic,i meant to send that to your personal email address,my 
mistake. 


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<MESSAGE index="38861">
From: 


'Alistair Hull <tadream@a...>' <tadream@a...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 7, 2003  9:55
pm
Subject:  The Jack Horner Club


Full Membership of the Jack Horner Club is hereby granted to:

Chris Hodgson, Chris Owen, Duncan McKee, Vic Rek, Heiko Heerssen
Alan Miller, Brian Stewart, Toby Braddick, Steve King
'Billy the Fish'(!) AKA Stephen Manship, David Wakefield
Colin Jouxson, Conrad Gibbons & Finnish friend, Rainer Rutka
Alistair Hull, Paul Fellows, Chris Wojtecki, Jan Wojtecki
Jim Moore, Matthew Stringer, Olav Neander, Heiko Neumann
Mrs. Neumann, David and Carol (work mate indeed...!)

London certainly pulls in the Listmembers for a gig eh? 26 of us. 
Bloody hell.

....and by the way, you'd not be puzzled by a name like Billy the 
Fish if you'd ever seen 'viz' adult comic magazine. 
http://www.viz.co.uk

Cheers, until next weekend...


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38862">
From: 


'Admin' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 8, 2003  7:08
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Dr. Who


Last word maybe???

For any who do not know who Dr. Who is, go to eBay and search on Dr. Who....
enjoy and do not buy the DALEKs... They are dangerous...

;-)

dale


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38863">
From: 


'Admin' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 8, 2003  7:14
am
Subject:  going dark


This weekend is truck time for me. Most of everything is in boxes.. boxes...
I will be moving... only 2 miles but anyone who has ever done this knows...
I may not be able to be contacted for a few days. I have phone line on so
dial up will be the norm till the other lines get put in and working...
(months perhaps so no FTP for SHN's). If you need to contact me, make sure
the subject has my name in it. I get my mail at work too (M-F).
I hope the list is still here when I get back to my norm routine. Till them,
everyone 'GOOD HEALTH!'. and 'Keep Listening to Tangerine Dream'.

dale


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38864">
From: 


'Gary Jenkins <quinoa@v...>' <quinoa@v...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 8, 2003  8:40
am
Subject:  Re: The Jack Horner Club


--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Alistair Hull <tadream@a...>' 
Can I become a member please I will be there with Colin a relation.

Cheers Gary Jenkins

<tadream@a...> wrote:
> Full Membership of the Jack Horner Club is hereby granted to:
> 
> Chris Hodgson, Chris Owen, Duncan McKee, Vic Rek, Heiko Heerssen
> Alan Miller, Brian Stewart, Toby Braddick, Steve King
> 'Billy the Fish'(!) AKA Stephen Manship, David Wakefield
> Colin Jouxson, Conrad Gibbons & Finnish friend, Rainer Rutka
> Alistair Hull, Paul Fellows, Chris Wojtecki, Jan Wojtecki
> Jim Moore, Matthew Stringer, Olav Neander, Heiko Neumann
> Mrs. Neumann, David and Carol (work mate indeed...!)
> 
> London certainly pulls in the Listmembers for a gig eh? 26 of us. 
> Bloody hell.
> 
> ....and by the way, you'd not be puzzled by a name like Billy the 
> Fish if you'd ever seen 'viz' adult comic magazine. 
> http://www.viz.co.uk
> 
> Cheers, until next weekend...


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<MESSAGE index="38865">
From: 


'Paul Dryden' <paulus.d@f...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 8, 2003  4:16
pm
Subject:  Erm, recording at gigs!!!


Iam sorry I won't be at the Astoria next week as family commitment prevent me
but, I'll ask anyway.....

1. What is the best format for recording at gigs?
2. Where's the best position to record from?

Of course, no-one will be doing this next week but Iam going to a Rick Wakeman
gig here in May!

Paulus.d_UK


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38866">
From: 


'Paul Dryden' <paulus.d@f...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 8, 2003  4:12
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Dr. Who


Can I have the last word?
Doctor Who has a yahoo group for those interested at
doctorwho@yahoogroups.com

Paulus.d

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Admin' <admin@k...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Dr. Who


> Last word maybe???
>
> For any who do not know who Dr. Who is, go to eBay and search on Dr.
Who....
> enjoy and do not buy the DALEKs... They are dangerous...
>
> ;-)
>
> dale
>
>
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>
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> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>


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<MESSAGE index="38867">
From: 


<jjank@w...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 7, 2003  11:39
pm
Subject:  Re: Re: [tadream] Heads Up-list


now I'm convinced - it's better to come, too ...
... of course I wonder how to identify the fans' corner in that pub <g>
but if someone is whistling the piano part of Quichotte every time someone
enters ...... <bg> 

Jörg


tadream@yahoogroups.com schrieb am 07.02.03 11:17:11:
> 
> Add me to that list too.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Matthew
> >
> > > People going to the TD gig at the London Astoria 15/2/03:
> > >
> > > Chris Hodgson
> > > Chris Owen
> > > Duncan McKee
> > > Vic Rek
> > > Heiko Heerssen
> > > Alan Miller
> > > Brian Stewart
> > > Toby Braddick
> > > 'Billy the Fish'(!)
> > > Steve King
> > > David Wakefield
> > > Colin Jouxson
> > > Conrad Gibbons & Finnish friend
> > > Rainer Rutka
> > > Alistair Hull
> > > Paul Fellows
> > >
> > > Wow, we're finally gonna meet the legendary Vic Rek from the US of A :-)
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > >
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> > > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> > >
> > > Tangerine Tree info at
> > > http://www.tadream.net/tree
> > >
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> > >
> >
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> > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> >
> > Tangerine Tree info at
> > http://www.tadream.net/tree
> >
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<MESSAGE index="38868">
From: 


<jjank@w...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 7, 2003  11:47
pm
Subject:  Fwd: Re: Re: [tadream] Heads Up-list


... that ****** mail program cut off the -g-s

but to be serious again: can anybody recommend an affordable place or two for
lunch on Saturday and Sunday ?

jjank@w... schrieb am 08.02.03 00:39:09:
> now I'm convinced - it's better to come, too ...
> ... of course I wonder how to identify the fans' corner in that pub -g-
> but if someone is whistling the piano part of Quichotte every time someone
enters ...... -bg-
> 
> Jörg
> 
> 
> tadream@yahoogroups.com schrieb am 07.02.03 11:17:11:
> > 
> > Add me to that list too.
> > 
> > Cheers
> > 
> > Matthew
> > >
> > > > People going to the TD gig at the London Astoria 15/2/03:
> > > >
> > > > Chris Hodgson
> > > > Chris Owen
> > > > Duncan McKee
> > > > Vic Rek
> > > > Heiko Heerssen
> > > > Alan Miller
> > > > Brian Stewart
> > > > Toby Braddick
> > > > 'Billy the Fish'(!)
> > > > Steve King
> > > > David Wakefield
> > > > Colin Jouxson
> > > > Conrad Gibbons & Finnish friend
> > > > Rainer Rutka
> > > > Alistair Hull
> > > > Paul Fellows
> > > >
> > > > Wow, we're finally gonna meet the legendary Vic Rek from the US of A :-)
> > > >
> > > > Paul
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------_-
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> > > > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > > > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> > > > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> > > >
> > > > Tangerine Tree info at
> > > > http://www.tadream.net/tree
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> > > >
> > >
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<MESSAGE index="38869">
From: 


'itakesall <itakesall@y...>' <itakesall@y...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 8, 2003  12:28
am
Subject:  You have to Check out Sasha Lazard


hey guys you'll love this new artist Sasha Lazard her music is opera 
fused with electronic beats you can check her out at 
http://noizepollution.com/new_music.asp


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38870">
From: 


'David Wakefield' <yahoo@b...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 8, 2003  7:10
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Erm, recording at gigs!!!


Paulus

I went to Rick Wakeman gig last year and he is very good, especially the 
Elanor Rigby track.


Dave W

-------Original Message-------

From: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, February 08, 2003 16:17:36
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] Erm, recording at gigs!!!

Iam sorry I won't be at the Astoria next week as family commitment prevent
me but, I'll ask anyway.....

1. What is the best format for recording at gigs?
2. Where's the best position to record from?

Of course, no-one will be doing this next week but Iam going to a Rick
Wakeman gig here in May!

Paulus.d_UK


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


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<MESSAGE index="38871">
From: 


'Roger Hartopp' <gmroger@p...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 8, 2003  6:45
pm
Subject:  Re: Boo hoo sniff sniff (was:The Jack Horner club)


From: 'Alistair Hull <tadream@a...>' <tadream@a...>
> Subject: The Jack Horner Club
>
> Full Membership of the Jack Horner Club is hereby granted to:
>
> Chris Hodgson, Chris Owen, Duncan McKee, Vic Rek, Heiko Heerssen
> Alan Miller, Brian Stewart, Toby Braddick, Steve King
> 'Billy the Fish'(!) AKA Stephen Manship, David Wakefield
> Colin Jouxson, Conrad Gibbons & Finnish friend, Rainer Rutka
> Alistair Hull, Paul Fellows, Chris Wojtecki, Jan Wojtecki
> Jim Moore, Matthew Stringer, Olav Neander, Heiko Neumann
> Mrs. Neumann, David and Carol (work mate indeed...!)
>
> London certainly pulls in the Listmembers for a gig eh? 26 of us.
> Bloody hell.

Cue for nearby box of hankies.
S'not fair! I wanna go now! Trouble is, I was in England only a short time
ago and could not really justify another trip so soon - Oh, why couldn't TD
have scheduled the gig a couple of months later!
So I'm now really envious of you lot. It'll be sad not to meet some of the
familiar faces from last time, so I wish you all a great concert and (thanks
Alan) look forward to getting my CD's in the near future (just getting the
cheque book sent my direction now).
Sods law says that, if as planned I go to England over the Summer or even
for a whole year TD will then probably have an open-air concert on the
Blonia in Krakow (20 minutes walk from my flat). And by the way, Vic Rek is
a nice guy (met him at Warsaw) and his Polish is pretty damn good too...
So be good chaps, don't get caught up in all the other business going on in
London and enjoy the gig!

> ....and by the way, you'd not be puzzled by a name like Billy the
> Fish if you'd ever seen 'viz' adult comic magazine.
> http://www.viz.co.uk

Ah! His real name is Tommy Brown!

> Cheers, until next weekend...

Be with you all in spirit.

Regards,
Roger Hartopp (Krakow, Poland)

--------------r-e-k-l-a-m-a-----------------


Tanie bilety lotnicze!
http://samoloty.onet.pl

	
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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38872">
From: 


'Colin Jouxson <convention24@y...>' <convention24@y...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 8, 2003  7:39
pm
Subject:  Rubycon-The GREATEST of all time


Will we ever see the likes of this Brilliance again,Rubycon Massive 
Massive Massive, without doubt the GREATEST album of all Time.


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<MESSAGE index="38873">
From: 


'fozziebear' <fozziebear.beehive@b...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 9, 2003  8:46
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Erm, recording at gigs!!!


Paulus said I went to Rick Wakeman gig last year and he is very good,
especially the Elanor Rigby track.

I have a Rick Wakeman tour programme in good condition from many years ago,
for sale / trade. If anyone is interested contact me off list

David


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38874">
From: 


giuseppe milazzo <deathandtransfiguration@y...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 8, 2003  8:22
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] no. 27 on the list of Jack Horner Club, any room for me ?


Hi everydody, Heard of me before, I am a quite TD fun, I see back and atch,
listen and ... never mind.
I, too, would like to be on the list of Jack Horner Club, I just finn it out
yesterday. Can anyone do it for me since I haven't got I clue how to put my
name of the list.
Thank YOU !
Giuseppe Milazzo
deathandtransfiguration@y...


fozziebear <fozziebear.beehive@b...> wrote:'People going to the TD
gig at the London Astoria 15/2/03'

Add me to the list and work mate Carol

David


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<MESSAGE index="38875">
From: 


'Paul Dryden' <paulus.d@f...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 9, 2003  10:25
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Rubycon-The GREATEST of all time


Right on dude, all of the early stuff is classic!
all of the 80's stuff is classic and so on.....
Did someone mention TD as a Retro band back a while?

I thought the term 'retro' only existed for soneone or thing that no longer
has anything to offer thats new and exciting!TD arn't in this catagory!!
Live on TD!!!!
Paulus.d

----- Original Message -----
From: <convention24@y...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 7:39 PM
Subject: [tadream] Rubycon-The GREATEST of all time


> Will we ever see the likes of this Brilliance again,Rubycon Massive
> Massive Massive, without doubt the GREATEST album of all Time.
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>


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<MESSAGE index="38876">
From: 


Philip Meyer <tadream@h...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 9, 2003  12:51
pm
Subject:  TT3 Download?


Hi,

Is TT3 available for download anywhere? As I have broadband access, I'd prefer
to download if possible, so that I can then blow the redbook disks myself with
CD Text info, etc.

Thanks,
Phil

------------------------------
Phil Meyer
ICQ:10029030
http://www.hergest.demon.co.uk

	
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<MESSAGE index="38877">
From: 


Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 9, 2003  6:23
pm
Subject:  Off Topic-Sound Explorer Update.


Just completed the Peter Baumann special with emphasis
on Private Music. This special will probably air
later this week. Also, just started work on the
B.B.C. Radiophonic Workshop special with emphasis on
Dr. Who Music.

All the best,

Wade

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<MESSAGE index="38878">
From: 


'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 9, 2003  6:28
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] TT3 Download?


> Is TT3 available for download anywhere?


It should be, shortly. During the week SHN copies of TT3 will be on their way to
two group members who have offered to put them on their FTP server. Keep an eye
on the group for annoucements.


Maff


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38879">
From: 
'Matthew Stringer' <qube@f...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 9, 2003  7:24
pm
Subject:  OT Spam


Every day I get 2 or 3 emails asking if I want an extra 3 inches and to
be honest it's getting hard to find pants that fit! :)

I want to know if anyone actually thinks 'Hey all I have to do is rub
this cream on and Hey Presto!!'

No-one can actually buy this stuff so why do they send so many emails
out.

The world is getting stranger!!!!


See you all Saturday


Matthew


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<MESSAGE index="38880">
From: 


'mad4rock75 <toby@b...>' <toby@b...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 9, 2003  8:26
pm
Subject:  Update on 15th Feb demonstration


I saw a friend of mine who is reasonably senior in the London police. 
Although he couldn't give me precise details, they are expecting 
trouble and suggests that we stick close to the theatre area until 
after the show.

Regards
Toby

PS due to family commitments (my wife wants a tumble dryer and I've 
spent most of the weekend tidying the garage to make room for one !) 
I may not make it to the Jack Horner, but hope to get to the Astoria 
a bit before the doors open.


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38881">
From: 


Volkmar Friauf <colognese@g...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 9, 2003  8:36
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] The Jack Horner Club


Hi,

if anyone is going to acceppt late inquiries, my wife and myself would be 
glad if we could meet at the Jack Horner's!

Actually my wife starts becoming a TD-fan as well, after Bernau, Berlin & 
Nideggen. I had planned to promise her some 'Valentine's special', but she 
agreed to join just for the show!

So see you all next Saturday.

Best regards,
Volkmar


At 22:55 07.02.2003, you wrote:
>Full Membership of the Jack Horner Club is hereby granted to:
>
>Chris Hodgson, Chris Owen, Duncan McKee, Vic Rek, Heiko Heerssen
>Alan Miller, Brian Stewart, Toby Braddick, Steve King
>'Billy the Fish'(!) AKA Stephen Manship, David Wakefield
>Colin Jouxson, Conrad Gibbons & Finnish friend, Rainer Rutka
>Alistair Hull, Paul Fellows, Chris Wojtecki, Jan Wojtecki
>Jim Moore, Matthew Stringer, Olav Neander, Heiko Neumann
>Mrs. Neumann, David and Carol (work mate indeed...!)
>
>London certainly pulls in the Listmembers for a gig eh? 26 of us.
>Bloody hell.
>
>....and by the way, you'd not be puzzled by a name like Billy the
>Fish if you'd ever seen 'viz' adult comic magazine.
>http://www.viz.co.uk
>
>Cheers, until next weekend...
>
>
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>http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
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<MESSAGE index="38882">
From: 


'David Wakefield' <yahoo@b...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 9, 2003  8:57
pm
Subject:  CD


A long while ago I bought what I thought was a remastered Tangerine Dream
CD called Rubycon Revisited.

Anyone else got it or details of who made it etc?

Cheers Dave W

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<MESSAGE index="38883">
From: 


'Colin Jouxson <convention24@y...>' <convention24@y...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 9, 2003  9:05
pm
Subject:  Re: OT Spam


--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Matthew Stringer' <qube@f...> wrote:
> Every day I get 2 or 3 emails asking if I want an extra 3 inches 
and to
> be honest it's getting hard to find pants that fit! :)
> 
> I want to know if anyone actually thinks 'Hey all I have to do is 
rub
> this cream on and Hey Presto!!'
> 
> No-one can actually buy this stuff so why do they send so many 
emails
> out.
> 
> The world is getting stranger!!!!
> 
> 
> See you all Saturday
> 
> 
> Matthew

Ive been praying for the Miracle of growth for years,sadly not a 
centimetre of elongation in sight,us nippers just got to learn to 
have a fast arse.


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<MESSAGE index="38884">
From: 


Robert Grabowsky <hghlndr@t...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 9, 2003  10:04
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] CD


It is just a bootleg with Rubycon as the primary source of music and if
you listen carefully you will hear a couple of samples of Black Sabbath.
It's not a bad piece if you are into this sort of thing. I like it. I guess
it is time to bring it out and listen to it again.
I have no information on the source other than what you see on the
artwork.

THE HIGHLANDER


At 08:57 PM 2/9/03 +0000, you wrote:
>
> A long while ago I bought what I thought was a remastered Tangerine Dream
>CD called Rubycon Revisited.
>
>Anyone else got it or details of who made it etc?
>
>Cheers Dave W


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38885">
From: 


Chris Richards <kohntarkosz@y...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 9, 2003  10:31
pm
Subject:  Re: Yet even more Dr. Who talk


<<anyone remember a Tom Baker episode 
called 'the Ark in space' with cybermen,
cybermats and humans kept in suspended 
animation in a space station:-) >>

Actually, I don't think the Cybermen were in The
Ark In Space. As I recall, the TARDIS landed on
the space station, several hundred (or thousand?)
years after solar flares had ravaged the Earth.
To ensure the survival of the human race, a crew
was put into suspended animation on the Ark space
station, and were to be revived when the
radiation levels had dropped to where the Earth
would be inhabitable again. But somewhere along
the way a giant slug like extraterrestrial had
found it's way onto the ship and was using the
crew members to feed it's larvae. 

Anyway, at the end of that adventure, The Doctor,
Sarah, and I think Harry was in on this one as
well, they all beamed to the Earth,to test the
Transmat system. I've forgotten the exact details
of what happened on Earth, but it involved the
Sontarans, I think. 

Anyway, after the stuff on Earth got wrapped up,
The Timelords hijack The Doctor and his
companions and whisk them off to Skaro, with the
intention of intervening in the development of
the Daleks (unsuccesfully, I might add). 

THEN, they return to the Ark space station, but
during a different time period. If memory serves,
The Doctor says it's decades, if not centuries,
before the solar flares. Anyway, THAT'S the one
the Cybermen were in. They were trying to destroy
one of Jupiter's moons, which had rich gold
deposits, an element that is lethal to the
Cybermen. 

Something I always thought was funny is that if
you watch the early 70's episodes that have the
Cybermen in them, it looks as if their costumes
are basically wetsuits that have been painted
silver and with several toaster like appliances
attached! I didn't notice this until I read a
book that had the first publicity photos that
were done of Tom Baker as The Doctor, where he
and Elizabeth Sladen (who, of course played
Sarah) with a Cyberman, and my immediate thought
was 'the Cyberman is wearing a wetsuit!'. 


=====
May you never thirst!
The Scuba Diver Presently Known As Chris

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Jones

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<MESSAGE index="38886">
From: 


'David Wakefield' <yahoo@b...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 10, 2003  10:47
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] CD


I must admit it's not really my thing. I bought it about 15 or 16 years ago
if my
memory serves me correctly in a shop in Newcastle and have listed to it
about
3 times.

Cheers Dave W

-------Original Message-------

From: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 09, 2003 22:10:39
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tadream] CD

It is just a bootleg with Rubycon as the primary source of music and if
you listen carefully you will hear a couple of samples of Black Sabbath.
It's not a bad piece if you are into this sort of thing. I like it. I guess
it is time to bring it out and listen to it again.
I have no information on the source other than what you see on the
artwork.

THE HIGHLANDER


At 08:57 PM 2/9/03 +0000, you wrote:
>
> A long while ago I bought what I thought was a remastered Tangerine Dream
>CD called Rubycon Revisited.
>
>Anyone else got it or details of who made it etc?
>
>Cheers Dave W


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<MESSAGE index="38887">
From: 


edgar-rainer.berberich@g... 
Date:  Mon Feb 10, 2003  11:34
am
Subject:  Questions ? - Answer ! (Long)


On Sunday I have finished the listening of TT3. Starting to listen TT1.
Thanx to Heiko (TT3) and Ramon (TT1 and TT2) for making me a copy.

My wishlist of TT4 is:
Dominion '82 - complete Concert
Cathedral Reims '74/'75 (?)

Questions about Classic Tree
Thanx to Maff (?) for the wonderful covers. So I'm interested about a
copy so far.
Is there anyone on the list - german preferred, other welcome- to make
me a copy, please contact me off-list.

Mail-address: edgar-rainer.berberich@g...

Questions about the Virgin Remasters
Some CD's have a misprint on the back-covers. There are notified Franke,
Froese, Baumann. But it's with Johannes.
The albums are Tangram, Thief and Exit.
Different CD-Labels.
From Paedra to Force Majeure the labels are white with black font.
And labeled with 'Tangerine Dream Definitive edition'.
From Thief to Hyperborea the CD's are silver with black font. The
information 'Tangerine Dream Definitive edition'
is only printed on the back cover. Does exits different remasters ?

Questions about Amiga Releases
Does anyone have more informations about Amiga (ex- GDR record label)
releases of Tanbgerine Dream ?
I have Quichotte as a LP:

Questions about Tangerine Dream Fanclub
Can anybody give me more information about Fanclubs from Tangerine Dream
?
How many fanclubs exist (official / inofficial) ?

Question about Soundmill Navigator
The inlay says Tangerine Dream Classics Edition Vol. 2.
What is the title of Tangerine Dream Classics Edition Vol. 1 ?

Some facts to sources from Heiko Heerssen
Have got a copy from Heiko's Parallel Dreams Vol. I-III and Cinema Lost,
Cinema Found Vol. I-XIII.
Well the packages and the sound quality is from very good to superb.
On the series Cinema Lost, Cinema Found there are no tracks from Oasis,
The Park is Mine, Dead Solid perfect.
Is there a special reaseon, why ?
Are the tracks from the original scores only?


Mit freundlichem Grüßen / best regards

Edgar Rainer Berberich

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<MESSAGE index="38888">
From: 


Heiko Heerssen <heiko.heerssen@h...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 10, 2003  12:34
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Questions ? - Answer ! (Long)


> My wishlist of TT4 is:
> Dominion '82 - complete Concert
> Cathedral Reims '74/'75 (?)

Well the complete London Dominion 82 will be part of the forthcoming first
'Tangerine leaves' tree (the 'best of the rest' series ;-) Sound quality is
very good, although it doesn't quite match the one of Croydon 1982 (TT Vol. 12)

As for Reims 13 Dec. 1974, of course this is a very interesting concert which
has an excellent sound quality. Well, maybe we will include a remastered
version for TT4 or TT5.

> Question about Soundmill Navigator
> The inlay says Tangerine Dream Classics Edition Vol. 2.
> What is the title of Tangerine Dream Classics Edition Vol. 1 ?

'Sohoman' (Sydney Regent Theatre 22 Feb. 1982, first part only).
Btw, TT4 will include the complete Sydney radio broadcast, and this one will
'rock da house' ;-)
Speaking of the 'Classics edition', I wonder if we will ever hear another new
release from that series? :-0


> Some facts to sources from Heiko Heerssen
> Have got a copy from Heiko's Parallel Dreams Vol. I-III and Cinema Lost,
> Cinema Found Vol. I-XIII.
> Well the packages and the sound quality is from very good to superb.

What a charming man! ;-)

> On the series Cinema Lost, Cinema Found there are no tracks from Oasis,
> The Park is Mine, Dead Solid perfect.
> Is there a special reaseon, why ?

To quote Graham Parker: 'Oh Lord don't ask me questions' ;-))
I have 'The park is mine' on tape but there was not even a single unreleased
piece of music on it, so I decided not to use it (the same goes for Dead Solid
Perfect and Oasis, too)

Heiko


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<MESSAGE index="38889">
From: 


'corporalcripp <rwoltanski@h...>' <rwoltanski@h...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 10, 2003  7:54
pm
Subject:  Re: Questions ? - Answer ! (Long)


--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Heiko Heerssen <heiko.heerssen@h...> 
wrote:
> 
> 
> > My wishlist of TT4 is:
> > Dominion '82 - complete Concert
> > Cathedral Reims '74/'75 (?)
> 
> Well the complete London Dominion 82 will be part of the 
forthcoming first
> 'Tangerine leaves' tree (the 'best of the rest' series ;-) Sound 
quality is
> very good, although it doesn't quite match the one of Croydon 1982 
(TT Vol. 12)
> 
> As for Reims 13 Dec. 1974, of course this is a very interesting 
concert which
> has an excellent sound quality. Well, maybe we will include a 
remastered
> version for TT4 or TT5.
> 
> > Question about Soundmill Navigator
> > The inlay says Tangerine Dream Classics Edition Vol. 2.
> > What is the title of Tangerine Dream Classics Edition Vol. 1 ?
> 
> 'Sohoman' (Sydney Regent Theatre 22 Feb. 1982, first part only).
> Btw, TT4 will include the complete Sydney radio broadcast, and this 
one will
> 'rock da house' ;-)
> Speaking of the 'Classics edition', I wonder if we will ever hear 
another new
> release from that series? :-0
> 
> 
> > Some facts to sources from Heiko Heerssen
> > Have got a copy from Heiko's Parallel Dreams Vol. I-III and 
Cinema Lost,
> > Cinema Found Vol. I-XIII.
> > Well the packages and the sound quality is from very good to 
superb.
> 
> What a charming man! ;-)
> 
> > On the series Cinema Lost, Cinema Found there are no tracks 
from Oasis,
> > The Park is Mine, Dead Solid perfect.
> > Is there a special reaseon, why ?
> 
> To quote Graham Parker: 'Oh Lord don't ask me questions' ;-))
> I have 'The park is mine' on tape but there was not even a single 
unreleased
> piece of music on it, so I decided not to use it (the same goes for 
Dead Solid
> Perfect and Oasis, too)
> 
> Heiko
Hello Heiko, no one asked but I'd like to see a cleaned up 
'Klangwald' and a better version of 
'Live Sessions' (April 9 '74, I think)from the BBC Top Gear broadcast 
included on the next tree.How 'bout a Ponts de Ce ('73) with better 
sound?-Bob


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<MESSAGE index="38890">
From: 


Vincent Guérenne <vincent.guerenne@s...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 10, 2003  9:29
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Heads Up-list


Hello all,

You can add my wife and I to this list.

A great thank to you all to be small or great part in the fine and precious
tree project.
See you this Saturday.
Vincent.

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Fellows <pfellows@c...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Heads Up-list


> People going to the TD gig at the London Astoria 15/2/03:
>
> Chris Hodgson
> Chris Owen
> Duncan McKee
> Vic Rek
> Heiko Heerssen
> Alan Miller
> Brian Stewart
> Toby Braddick
> 'Billy the Fish'(!)
> Steve King
> David Wakefield
> Colin Jouxson
> Conrad Gibbons & Finnish friend
> Rainer Rutka
> Alistair Hull
> Paul Fellows
>
> Wow, we're finally gonna meet the legendary Vic Rek from the US of A :-)
>
> Paul
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38891">
From: 


'Bill Fox' <billfox@f...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 11, 2003  1:41
am
Subject:  Soundscapes Concert Series


The Soundscapes Concert Series
p r o u d l y p r e s e n t s
Orbital Decay
in an all ages concert of spacemusic
at the City of Bethlehem's IceHouse on Sand Island
Saturday, February 22, 2003
Concert at 8:00 pm, doors open at 7:00 pm
FREE Buffet Dinner by Chef Jeff
Tickets: $12 in advance and $15 at the door.
Tom Shaw will play relaxing ambient music
in the lobby during dinner.

For the third installment of the Soundscapes Concert Series, Orbital Decay will
perform a concert at the City of Bethlehem's IceHouse on Sand Island. The
guitarist has changed since last year, making this an all new event. As a
special treat, local musician Tom Shaw will perform relaxing ambient music in
the lobby before the concert. Located in historic Bethlehem on the north bank
of the Lehigh River, the IceHouse will provide the perfect venue for a concert
of spacemusic. This concert will be on Saturday, February 22, 2003, starting
at 8:00 pm. The doors will open at 7:00 pm and Chef Jeff will cater a free
buffet dinner. Tickets are $12 in advance and $15 at the door. Advance
tickets are available at:

Compact Disc Center Speedy's Record Shop
1365 Easton Ave. 1001 Union Blvd.
Bethlehem, Pennsylvania Allentown, Pennsylvania
610-868-3070 610-432-8386

NOTE: There are no discounts on advance tickets. Tickets at the door will be
reduced by $3 for those who show their WDIY or WMUH membership cards or their
full-time student ID.

CONTACT:
Bill Fox
billfox@f...
610-746-9615

ORBITAL DECAY:

Orbital Decay consists of electric guitarist Scott Watkins and synthesist Terry
Furber of Quakertown, Pennsylvania, located north of Philadelphia and south of
Allentown/Bethlehem. Originally founded in 1979, the year when Skylab's orbit
decayed, returning it to Earth in a firey display, Terry and Scott formed a
band influenced by the likes of Tangerine Dream, Klaus Shulze, and Pink Floyd. 
Today, Terry and Scott make improvisational electronic space music with the
energy of fusion styles from the 1970s. This means that Orbital Decay charts
unexplored territory of sound and mood.

Terry Furber has the keyboard chops of a progressive rock keyboardist, enabling
him to play soaring synth solos over a classic Berlin School sequence. Yet he
can display the restraint required for a deep space excursion in the darker,
more introspective moments of his music. In addition to being a player, Terry
also builds and programs his own synthesizers and computers, sometimes using
older technology obtained at bargain basement prices. He then proceeds to
squeeze every ounce of music possible from his concoctions. An example of his
ability in this area is his minimoog and MOTM modular synth which was Keyboard
of the Month in Keyboard magazine.

Scott Watkins was another founding member of Orbital Decay. Due to other life
commitments, Scott had to leave the band temporarily, making way for Tim
Richardson who performed at last year's Orbital Decay performances at
Soundscapes and on WDIY's EMUSIC spacemusic program. Since then, Scott has
returned. Together with Terry, Scott, whose influences include Robert Fripp,
has performed twice on WXPN's Star's End spacemusic program and released three
self-produced albums featuring their prolific studio work.


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<MESSAGE index="38892">
From: 


Heiko Heerssen <heiko.heerssen@h...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 11, 2003  7:08
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Questions ? - Answer ! (Long)


>
> Hello Heiko, no one asked but I'd like to see a cleaned up
> 'Klangwald' and a better version of
> 'Live Sessions' (April 9 '74, I think)from the BBC Top Gear broadcast
> included on the next tree.How 'bout a Ponts de Ce ('73) with better
> sound?-Bob

they will definetly become a part of the Tangerine Tree series sooner or
later, however right now I can't tell precisely which volume. Especially for
the older TD concerts it's sometimes difficult to locate the best surviving
tape, and this needs a bit of research.

Heiko


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<MESSAGE index="38893">
From: 


'braddito <toby.braddick@u...>' <toby.braddick@u...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 11, 2003  8:18
am
Subject:  Re: Questions ? - Answer ! (Long)


BBC Top Gear Live Sessions 74 - wasn't that just a transmission of 
the complete 'Oedipus' recording or is it something else ?

regards
Toby

> > Heiko
> Hello Heiko, no one asked but I'd like to see a cleaned up 
> 'Klangwald' and a better version of 
> 'Live Sessions' (April 9 '74, I think)from the BBC Top Gear 
broadcast 
> included on the next tree.How 'bout a Ponts de Ce ('73) with better 
> sound?-Bob


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From: 


'Martin Mckee <atroller@b...>' <atroller@b...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 11, 2003  12:07
pm
Subject:  Re: Questions ? - Answer ! (Long)


As long as the suggestions are being submitted, how
about anything from the cyclone tour, for some reason
Vol. 11, Audimax is one of my favorites?!..


Martin.

--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'braddito <toby.braddick@u...>' 
<toby.braddick@u...> wrote:
> BBC Top Gear Live Sessions 74 - wasn't that just a transmission of 
> the complete 'Oedipus' recording or is it something else ?
> 
> regards
> Toby
> 
> > > Heiko
> > Hello Heiko, no one asked but I'd like to see a cleaned up 
> > 'Klangwald' and a better version of 
> > 'Live Sessions' (April 9 '74, I think)from the BBC Top Gear 
> broadcast 
> > included on the next tree.How 'bout a Ponts de Ce ('73) with 
better 
> > sound?-Bob


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<MESSAGE index="38895">
From: 


Heiko Heerssen <heiko.heerssen@h...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 11, 2003  12:51
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Questions ? - Answer ! (Long)


> As long as the suggestions are being submitted, how
> about anything from the cyclone tour, for some reason
> Vol. 11, Audimax is one of my favorites?!..

I also like the Audimax concert very much. Unfortunately this is one of the
few concert tours of which no radio broadcast or soundboard recording is
known to exist, and even worse is that there are only very few audience tapes
which have a reasonable sound quality (not to mention the music, most of it
sounds quite uninspiring, to the extent that sometimes TD had to stop their
improvisation and start again) .
For the 'Tangerine Tree' there are plans to include the first gig from that
tour: Berlin Eissporthalle 19 February 1978 (I really like the beginning
where Steve Joliffe screams like a mad samurai, this will empty a crowded
room within seconds ;-) It is also planned to release maybe three or four
other audience recordings from that tour (Brussels 17 March, London 28 March,
Valencia 12 March) as part of 'Tangerine leaves', but this will take some
more time.

Heiko


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<MESSAGE index="38896">
From: 


Wade Gordon <mindvoyager1@y...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 11, 2003  5:20
pm
Subject:  Off Topic-'Sound Explorer'


As of this very moment 'Sound Explorer' is on short
wave and very, very soon satellite radio. Today's
program is a salute to Bond, James Bond.

Wade

__________________________________________________
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<MESSAGE index="38897">
From: 


'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 11, 2003  6:16
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Questions ? - Answer ! (Long)


> I also like the Audimax concert very much. Unfortunately this is one of the
> few concert tours of which no radio broadcast or soundboard recording is
> known to exist, and even worse is that there are only very few audience tapes
> which have a reasonable sound quality (not to mention the music, most of it
> sounds quite uninspiring, to the extent that sometimes TD had to stop their
> improvisation and start again) .


This brings me to a couple of questions I've been meaning to ask for a while (if
indeed they are appropriate to ask here. I know where I *should* be asking them,
but that particular forum is sadly at deaths door). Anyway:

1) Does anyone know why there are no decent 1978 recordings? Given the distain
the Cyclone album and tour seem to be held in, I can't help but wonder if TD
tapers interest just fell through the floor that year :-).

2) I'm sure the TT master tape hunters have already considered this, but just in
case: what about the source tape that was used for the Sea of Dreams track
'Iago'? That sounded absolutely terrific on SOD, but of course the complete
concert copy I have sucks. Does anyone know the origin of the SOD excerpt?


Maff


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From: 


'Yanick Vigneault <tdream88@h...>' <tdream88@h...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 11, 2003  8:49
pm
Subject:  6 degrees of Kevin Bacon...


One of my collegue tell me the expression '6 degrees of Kevin Bacon' 
( for explanations see www.spub.ksu.edu/issues/v100/FA/n069/fea-
making-bacon-fuqua.html ) Just for fun I write the word 'Edgar 
Froese' in the search engine below :

http://www.cs.virginia.edu/oracle/

View the result... ;-)) 


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<MESSAGE index="38899">
From: 


'tangram80 <coldwatercanyon@s...>' <coldwatercanyon@s...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  1:53
am
Subject:  Answer to the GWOC Quiz


OK some delay on my part to reveal the answers of the Great Wall of 
China quiz.

The 3 lines of blue texts on the last page of Great Wall of China 
inlay can be translated literally as follows:

a) combat-win buddha
b) clean-shrine missionary
c) gold-body arahat

These refer to the 3 designations of Monkey, Pig and Sand - the 3 
main characters in the famous Chinese fantasy novel 'The Monkey King' 
(or alternatively titled 'Journey To The West') - respectively given 
by Buddha when they successfully assisted their master, Tang Yuan 
Zang, in the quest to India to obtain Buddhist sutras. 

This story is so well-known, that even at the most poverty-strucken 
area of China, nobody is assumed never heard of the Monkey King. The 
story is adapted from the actual journey undertaken by the famous 
buddhist monk Yuan Zang, to travel from China to India in a quest of 
Mahayana buddhist sutras. After that journey, Yuan Zang brought back 
many sutras, opened translation centres, and established the Mahayana 
school of Cittamatra. The famous 'heart sutra' was a summary done by 
him.

As for the link of the Great Wall of China to the Monkey King story, 
I'll leave those interested to investigate themselves... ;-) 

There is no respondent to the quiz.

Jeffrey


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<MESSAGE index="38900">
From: 


Heiko Heerssen <heiko.heerssen@h...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  7:30
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Questions ? - Answer ! (Long)


> This brings me to a couple of questions I've been meaning to ask for a while
(if
> indeed they are appropriate to ask here. I know where I *should* be asking
them,
> but that particular forum is sadly at deaths door).

Well both forums are a very silent at the moment, so I guess it doesn't really
matter where you ask your questions ;-)

> 1) Does anyone know why there are no decent 1978 recordings? Given the
distain
> the Cyclone album and tour seem to be held in, I can't help but wonder if TD
> tapers interest just fell through the floor that year :-).

In Scott Plumer's book 'Mysterious semblance: a Tangerine Dream chronology' it
says
that 'Cyclone' got released in March 1978, but as you know the tour already
started
in February. So it seems that the audiences were unaware of what TD was going to
play, and for some it must have been quite a surprise to get confronted with
drums &
'vocals' :-) And since 'Encore' was quite a success it also makes me wonder
why
the majority of the audience tapes sound so bad. Maybe the security staff was a
bit
more attentive that year and all the people with good tape recorders had to
leave
the concert halls? ;-)


> 2) I'm sure the TT master tape hunters have already considered this, but just
in
> case: what about the source tape that was used for the Sea of Dreams track
> 'Iago'? Does anyone know the origin of the SOD excerpt?

Yup :-)


Heiko


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<MESSAGE index="38901">
From: 


<heiko@o...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  7:16
am
Subject:  Website update


hello all,

I modified my Homepage http://www.opticaldream.de yesterday. Have a look at my
new entrys in my collection.
A bigger update of my website will follow soon after the London Concert this
weekend. With more new entrys and so on...

Cheers and we see us in London
Heiko - Mr. Optical
http://www.tribute-to-ashra.de
http://www.opticaldream.de

Sign up for your free PAYPAL account:
https://www.paypal.com/refer/pal=WDJX3DNKVFJ9E

cool link: http://www.klamm.de/?refid=62978


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From: 


'david020760 <david020760@y...>' <david020760@y...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 11, 2003  11:47
pm
Subject:  Astoria gig


Hi,

This is my first post so it seemed sort of appropriate to use it to 
say that, yes, I'll be there on Saturday too. 

TD fan since the mid-70s, etc. etc.:-))

I've been reading the posts on the group for a while now from work 
but I thought it wasn't a brilliant idea signing up from there 
(although I was tempted from time to time) and my home e-mail has 
been down for over a month. I've only just got it working again, so I 
thought it was high time I got 'legal' and signed up properly. I'm 
going to try and make it to the Jack Horner beforehand too and hope 
to meet up with others from the group - sounds like there should be a 
few people there. Hopefully it'll be fairly obvious which is the 'TD 
table' but if you see someone looking a bit lost, it's probably me so 
give me a shout!

On a more practical note, how are things on parking round the Astoria 
and the Jack Horner? I live in Staffordshire but will be driving down 
from my girlfriend's place in Nottingham on Saturday 
lunchtime/afternoon. I did consider parking on the outskirts of 
London and catching the Tube in but with all the stuff about 
terrorist attacks perhaps a Tube train is not the best place to be. 
Can anyone give me any ideas?

All the best
David


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From: 
Shez <shez@a...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 11, 2003  11:01
am
Subject:  Are there also a CD tree for Klaus Schulze?


Hello,

Sorry to ask here.

Is there also a CD tree live trading system for Klaus Schulze
concerts?

I'd be interested in live performances for let's say the years 74-77.


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From: 


'hlauj000 <hlauj64345@c...>' <hlauj64345@c...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 10, 2003  8:08
pm
Subject:  Re: Questions ? - Answer ! (Long)


Hello
Isn't the Classic Tree Live Improvisation the
Rheims Cathedral show from 12/13/74?
Or is this a different source of the same show?
Or did they do more than one show that day?
Hans


--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Heiko Heerssen <heiko.heerssen@h...> 
wrote:
> 
> 
> > My wishlist of TT4 is:
> > Dominion '82 - complete Concert
> > Cathedral Reims '74/'75 (?)
> 
> Well the complete London Dominion 82 will be part of the 
forthcoming first
> 'Tangerine leaves' tree (the 'best of the rest' series ;-) Sound 
quality is
> very good, although it doesn't quite match the one of Croydon 1982 
(TT Vol. 12)
> 
> As for Reims 13 Dec. 1974, of course this is a very interesting 
concert which
> has an excellent sound quality. Well, maybe we will include a 
remastered
> version for TT4 or TT5.
> 
> > Question about Soundmill Navigator
> > The inlay says Tangerine Dream Classics Edition Vol. 2.
> > What is the title of Tangerine Dream Classics Edition Vol. 1 ?
> 
> 'Sohoman' (Sydney Regent Theatre 22 Feb. 1982, first part only).
> Btw, TT4 will include the complete Sydney radio broadcast, and this 
one will
> 'rock da house' ;-)
> Speaking of the 'Classics edition', I wonder if we will ever hear 
another new
> release from that series? :-0
> 
> 
> > Some facts to sources from Heiko Heerssen
> > Have got a copy from Heiko's Parallel Dreams Vol. I-III and 
Cinema Lost,
> > Cinema Found Vol. I-XIII.
> > Well the packages and the sound quality is from very good to 
superb.
> 
> What a charming man! ;-)
> 
> > On the series Cinema Lost, Cinema Found there are no tracks 
from Oasis,
> > The Park is Mine, Dead Solid perfect.
> > Is there a special reaseon, why ?
> 
> To quote Graham Parker: 'Oh Lord don't ask me questions' ;-))
> I have 'The park is mine' on tape but there was not even a single 
unreleased
> piece of music on it, so I decided not to use it (the same goes for 
Dead Solid
> Perfect and Oasis, too)
> 
> Heiko


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<MESSAGE index="38905">
From: 


Armin Theissen <Armin.Theissen@s...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  8:56
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Are there also a CD tree for Klaus Schulze?


Gosh, that would be *really* interesting! I'd be interested
in ALL of KS!!!!

armin

Shez wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Sorry to ask here.
>
> Is there also a CD tree live trading system for Klaus Schulze
> concerts?
>
> I'd be interested in live performances for let's say the years 74-77.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
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> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

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<MESSAGE index="38906">
From: 


'Yannick EDOM' <yannick.edom@s...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  8:49
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Are there also a CD tree for Klaus Schulze?


This is a great idea !!

but who will be managing the tree ?!

Yannick Edom
Mirage Créations
Champlain B7 A 101
47 Chemin de Pelleport
31500 TOULOUSE
FRANCE

e-mail : yannick.edom@s...


>
> Gosh, that would be *really* interesting! I'd be interested
> in ALL of KS!!!!
>
> armin
>
> Shez wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Sorry to ask here.
> >
> > Is there also a CD tree live trading system for Klaus Schulze
> > concerts?
> >
> > I'd be interested in live performances for let's say the years 74-77.
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> >
> > Tangerine Tree info at
> > http://www.tadream.net/tree
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
> --
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> Armin dot Theissen at sun dot com phone x19080
> SUN Microsystems Ireland
>
> 'To you I'm an atheist; to God, I'm the Loyal Opposition.'
> - Woody Allen
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>

	
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<MESSAGE index="38907">
From: 


'Heiko Heerssen <heiko.heerssen@h...>' <heiko.heerssen@h...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  9:00
am
Subject:  Re: Are there also a CD tree for Klaus Schulze?


--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Armin Theissen <Armin.Theissen@s...> 
wrote:
> 
> Gosh, that would be *really* interesting! I'd be interested
> in ALL of KS!!!!
> 
A very good idea, but first make sure to ask his manager (Klaus 
Dieter Mueller) for allowance before posting something like a tree 
structure on the internet. Especially with him it's a risky business 
to openly trade KS CDRs, even if it's non profit (I am deadly serious 
about this..) I have quite an amount of unreleased Klaus Schulze 
recordings and could fill some gaps if needed.

Heiko


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<MESSAGE index="38908">
From: 


edgar-rainer.berberich@g... 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  9:23
am
Subject:  re: Questions ? - Answer ! (Long)


OK, folks there is some response to my mail,
but there ist no possible response to the following open points

Questions about the Virgin Remasters
Some CD's have a misprint on the back-covers. There are notified Franke,
Froese, Baumann. But it's with Johannes.
The albums are Tangram, Thief and Exit.
Different CD-Labels.
From Paedra to Force Majeure the labels are white with black font.
And labeled with 'Tangerine Dream Definitive edition'.
From Thief to Hyperborea the CD's are silver with black font. The
information 'Tangerine Dream Definitive edition'
is only printed on the back cover. Does exits different remasters ?

Questions about Classic Tree
Thanx to Maff (?) for the wonderful covers. So I'm interested about a
copy so far.
Is there anyone on the list - german preferred, other welcome- to make
me a copy, please contact me off-list.

Mail-address: edgar-rainer.berberich@g...

Questions about Tangerine Dream Fanclub
Can anybody give me more information about Fanclubs from Tangerine Dream
?
How many fanclubs exist (official / inofficial) ?


Mit freundlichem Grüßen / best regards

Edgar Rainer Berberich

-------------------------------------------------------------
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ausschließen. Der Versand von E-mail dient somit ausschließlich dem
Informationsaustausch.
Due to the fact that E-mails are prone to manipulation and can be
misleading as to the identity of the sender, the foregoing statements and
comments shall have no legal validity. This is for your own protection as
well as ours. Thus, E-mails shall be sent for information purposes only.


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<MESSAGE index="38909">
From: 


'Heiko Heerssen <heiko.heerssen@h...>' <heiko.heerssen@h...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  9:28
am
Subject:  Re: Are there also a CD tree for Klaus Schulze?


> A very good idea, but first make sure to ask his manager (Klaus 
> Dieter Mueller) for allowance before posting something like a tree 
> structure on the internet. Especially with him it's a risky 
business to openly trade KS CDRs, even if it's non profit (I am 
deadly serious about this..) I have quite an amount of unreleased 
Klaus Schulze recordings and could fill some gaps if needed.
> 
> Heiko

Hi again :-)
I really didn't mean to spoil the fun with my last message! But 
please keep in mind that there are some artists and/or managers that 
are not very keen on such activities, and somehow I'm very sure that 
Klaus Schulze's manager belongs to this category (especially since he 
has released tons of CDs with older studio & concert material 
himself). To quote our list member Klaus B.: it's a 'legal 
minefield', and I can only be thankful that TD hasn't pulled the plug 
yet about our tree project, it seems they are much more open-minded ;-
)
If some KS afficionado wants to start a CD-R tree he has to be aware 
of these risks. Either he or she (erm...are there any female KS fans 
on this list? :-) has to do it off-list, or has to ask KDM first 
(most likely his answer will be no)


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38910">
From: 
Synthhtnys@a... 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  9:34
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Are there also a CD tree for Klaus Schulze?


In a message dated 2/12/2003 4:00:59 AM Eastern Standard Time,
heiko.heerssen@h... writes:

> A very good idea, but first make sure to ask his manager (Klaus 
> Dieter Mueller) for allowance before posting something like a tree 
> structure on the internet. Especially with him it's a risky business 
> to openly trade KS CDRs, even if it's non profit (I am deadly serious 
> about this..) I have quite an amount of unreleased Klaus 
> Schulze 
> recordings and could fill some gaps if needed.
> 
> Heiko

*I'll second that... You want to be careful with KDM.
He can be...... let's say unpleasant. The tragedy is that 
I also have some Schulze live boots from the '70's and they are incredible...
every bit as good as some of the official releases. I am baffled why with all
those box sets he comes out with some of this material is not released.
Poly

	
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<MESSAGE index="38911">
From: 


Heiko Heerssen <heiko.heerssen@h...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  9:58
am
Subject:  'Advice on heightened security at Heathrow Airport'


this might be of interest to those who will arrive at Heathrow Airport
this Saturday for the TD gig...like me :-(

'Advice on heightened security at Heathrow Airport
11 February 2003

This morning at about 06.00 hrs the police took a number of measures to
strengthen security in London. The most visible element of these
arrangements is at Heathrow airport. The Metropolitan Police say these
measures relate to 'a potential threat to the capital'

The heightened arrangements include the use of military personnel in
support of the Metropolitan Police. The use of troops is part of a
long-standing contingency, authorised by the government, for example
during the Provisional IRA terrorist campaign.

The security authorities do not intend to give any further details of
the security arrangements and BAA is not in a position to add further
information.

Mick Temple, managing director, Heathrow airport said; 'Safety and
security of passengers and staff is our top priority at Heathrow. BAA
works extremely closely with the Metropolitan Police on security issues
and BAA is co-operating fully with this latest enhancement of security.

'We understand that this is a precautionary measure and we would ask
passengers to continue to be vigilant and patient in the light of any
delays caused by these, or any other additional security measures that
may be introduced from time to time.'

BAA has strengthened security in recent months in a number of ways,
including recruiting hundreds of additional security staff at Heathrow
alone. Heightened security levels have remained in place with additional
checks on baggage and passengers. '


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From: 


'Greg' <designx@c...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  10:00
am
Subject:  Valentines Day


What is it with TD concerts and Valentines day? Is this some kind of
attempt to increase the amount of females going to their concerts? 

Greg H.

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From: 


'David Wakefield' <yahoo@b...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  11:43
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Astoria gig


I am coming down on the train to avoid the traffic etc. If you are going 
to drive and assuming the tubes etc are running I would suggest you park
at the Wembley tube station and tube in. With the protest etc going on I
wouldn't risk trying to drive through it.

Dave W

-------Original Message-------

From: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 08:21:53
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] Astoria gig

Hi,

This is my first post so it seemed sort of appropriate to use it to 
say that, yes, I'll be there on Saturday too. 

TD fan since the mid-70s, etc. etc.:-))

I've been reading the posts on the group for a while now from work 
but I thought it wasn't a brilliant idea signing up from there 
(although I was tempted from time to time) and my home e-mail has 
been down for over a month. I've only just got it working again, so I 
thought it was high time I got 'legal' and signed up properly. I'm 
going to try and make it to the Jack Horner beforehand too and hope 
to meet up with others from the group - sounds like there should be a 
few people there. Hopefully it'll be fairly obvious which is the 'TD 
table' but if you see someone looking a bit lost, it's probably me so 
give me a shout!

On a more practical note, how are things on parking round the Astoria 
and the Jack Horner? I live in Staffordshire but will be driving down 
from my girlfriend's place in Nottingham on Saturday 
lunchtime/afternoon. I did consider parking on the outskirts of 
London and catching the Tube in but with all the stuff about 
terrorist attacks perhaps a Tube train is not the best place to be. 
Can anyone give me any ideas?

All the best
David


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From: 


'David Wakefield' <yahoo@b...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  11:44
am
Subject:  Camera's


Do you think they will allow camera's in the gig?

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<MESSAGE index="38915">
From: 


Armin Theissen <Armin.Theissen@s...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  12:02
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon...


Incredible... only 3 steps away!

Edgar Froese was in Warum die UFOs unseren Salat klauen (1980) with Dan
van Husen
Dan van Husen was in Holcroft Covenant, The (1985) with Victoria Tennant
Victoria Tennant was in We Married Margo (2000) with Kevin Bacon

a.

'Yanick Vigneault ' wrote:

> One of my collegue tell me the expression '6 degrees of Kevin Bacon'
> ( for explanations see www.spub.ksu.edu/issues/v100/FA/n069/fea-
> making-bacon-fuqua.html ) Just for fun I write the word 'Edgar
> Froese' in the search engine below :
>
> http://www.cs.virginia.edu/oracle/
>
> View the result... ;-))
>
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From: 


'Glynn Naughton <glynn_naughton@h...>' <glynn_naughton@h...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  12:51
pm
Subject:  Re: 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon...


--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Armin Theissen <Armin.Theissen@s...> 
wrote:
> 
> Incredible... only 3 steps away!
> 
> Edgar Froese was in Warum die UFOs unseren Salat klauen (1980) 
with Dan
> van Husen
> Dan van Husen was in Holcroft Covenant, The (1985) with Victoria 
Tennant
> Victoria Tennant was in We Married Margo (2000) with Kevin Bacon

Not really. Isn't this whole 'six degrees of seperation' thing about 
how 'connected' everything is a well-known mathematical phenomenon? 
There's a link on that page to the 'Star Links' page, where you can 
link *any* two, er, stars together. I tried Edgar with Eminem, 
Madonna, Ron Jeremy (hairy American porn 'actor') and Frederick Pyne 
(who is collossolly famous throughout the world for his portrayal in 
the 1970s and 80s of shepherd Matt Skilbeck in the ledendary British 
soap opera _Emmerdale Farm_). Each one of these wildly-different 
stars had an Edgar Froese number of 3. In fact it's quite difficult 
to find any two actors who are more than 3 jumps apart. 

Glynn


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<MESSAGE index="38917">
From: 
'Brian Stewart' <pogofish@h...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  1:04
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Camera's


Hi

On the back of my ticket, it says that 'Cameras are allowed for personal use 
only'. It is advisable however not to take anything that might be 
considered 'professional' at SBE, I had no problems at all using a small 
compact with a good lens, whereas some people with more sophisticated 
looking cameras got hassled.

Best

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<MESSAGE index="38918">
From: 


'vic rek' <tangerinedream@a...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  2:02
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] 'Advice on heightened security at Heathrow Airport'


Sounds like we have an exciting weekend coming up :-)
Vic

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Heiko Heerssen' <heiko.heerssen@h...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 4:58 AM
Subject: [tadream] 'Advice on heightened security at Heathrow Airport'


> this might be of interest to those who will arrive at Heathrow Airport
> this Saturday for the TD gig...like me :-(
>
> 'Advice on heightened security at Heathrow Airport
> 11 February 2003
>
> This morning at about 06.00 hrs the police took a number of measures to
> strengthen security in London. The most visible element of these
> arrangements is at Heathrow airport. The Metropolitan Police say these
> measures relate to 'a potential threat to the capital'
>
> The heightened arrangements include the use of military personnel in
> support of the Metropolitan Police. The use of troops is part of a
> long-standing contingency, authorised by the government, for example
> during the Provisional IRA terrorist campaign.
>
> The security authorities do not intend to give any further details of
> the security arrangements and BAA is not in a position to add further
> information.
>
> Mick Temple, managing director, Heathrow airport said; 'Safety and
> security of passengers and staff is our top priority at Heathrow. BAA
> works extremely closely with the Metropolitan Police on security issues
> and BAA is co-operating fully with this latest enhancement of security.
>
> 'We understand that this is a precautionary measure and we would ask
> passengers to continue to be vigilant and patient in the light of any
> delays caused by these, or any other additional security measures that
> may be introduced from time to time.'
>
> BAA has strengthened security in recent months in a number of ways,
> including recruiting hundreds of additional security staff at Heathrow
> alone. Heightened security levels have remained in place with additional
> checks on baggage and passengers. '
>
>
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<MESSAGE index="38919">
From: 


'michaeljean@e...' <michaeljean@e...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  2:06
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon...


That was fun, but now I see what my Virginia Commonwealth taxes go towards.
;^) 

MJ

Original Message:
-----------------
From: Yanick Vigneault tdream88@h...
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 20:49:15 -0000
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon...


One of my collegue tell me the expression '6 degrees of Kevin Bacon' 
( for explanations see www.spub.ksu.edu/issues/v100/FA/n069/fea-
making-bacon-fuqua.html ) Just for fun I write the word 'Edgar 
Froese' in the search engine below :

http://www.cs.virginia.edu/oracle/

View the result... ;-)) 


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<MESSAGE index="38920">
From: 


moxica@a... 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  2:16
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] 'Advice on heightened security at Heathrow Airport'


What about us souls coming in Gatwick? 

--
Jim Moore, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
moxica@a...
> this might be of interest to those who will arrive at Heathrow Airport
> this Saturday for the TD gig...like me :-(
> 
> 'Advice on heightened security at Heathrow Airport
> 11 February 2003

	
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<MESSAGE index="38921">
From: 


Harry <TaDream@c...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  2:45
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Questions ? - Answer ! (Long)


on 2/12/03 1:30 AM, Heiko Heerssen at heiko.heerssen@h... wrote:

(snip)
> Maybe the security staff was a bit
> more attentive that year and all the people with good tape recorders had to
> leave the concert halls? ;-)


Speaking of which, I'd love to hear how taping was done in the 70's. This
was in the days before recording Sony Walkmans, so I assume we're talking
about various clever ways of smuggling the relatively big rigs into the
venues. Then on top of that, there's the overcrowding situation of some
venues (I'm thinking particularly of the Cathedral shows), etc.

Tough conditions, and few people could afford portable recording gear at the
time, yet thankfully the moments were captured.


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<MESSAGE index="38922">
From: 


'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  5:32
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] re: Questions ? - Answer ! (Long)


> Questions about the Virgin Remasters
> Some CD's have a misprint on the back-covers. There are notified 
>Franke,
> Froese, Baumann. But it's with Johannes.
> The albums are Tangram, Thief and Exit.


Yeah, and there's also the usual typos bonanza, ranging from 'Frose' to 
'Pilots of Purple Twighlight'.


> Different CD-Labels.
> From Paedra to Force Majeure the labels are white with black font.
> And labeled with 'Tangerine Dream Definitive edition'.
> From Thief to Hyperborea the CD's are silver with black font. The
> information 'Tangerine Dream Definitive edition'
> is only printed on the back cover. Does exits different remasters ?


Hey, good point about the missing 'Definitive' print. I've heard plenty of 
people complain about the tape hiss on 'Remote Viewing'.. but what if these 
5 albums are, in fact, _not_ remastered??


> Questions about Tangerine Dream Fanclub
> Can anybody give me more information about Fanclubs from Tangerine 
>Dream
> ?
> How many fanclubs exist (official / inofficial) ?


I don't think there's any other (well-known) ones besides this list right 
here...

John Vertical

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From: 


'braddito <toby.braddick@u...>' <toby.braddick@u...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  5:47
pm
Subject:  Re: Astoria gig


Don't even think about trying to drive in to London on Saturday. 
David's idea is good - there are a number of stations just outside 
London that are handy for the M25 or M1 : Stevenage, St Albans and 
Watford if you don't fancy risking Wembley. Similarly, don't be 
tempted to use buses in the West End either, I don't think they'll be 
moving.

Toby

--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'David Wakefield' <yahoo@b...> wrote:
> I am coming down on the train to avoid the traffic etc. If you are 
going 
> to drive and assuming the tubes etc are running I would suggest you 
park
> at the Wembley tube station and tube in. With the protest etc going 
on I
> wouldn't risk trying to drive through it.
> 
> Dave W
> 
> -------Original Message-------
> 
> From: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 08:21:53
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [tadream] Astoria gig
> 
> Hi,
> 
> This is my first post so it seemed sort of appropriate to use it to 
> say that, yes, I'll be there on Saturday too. 
> 
> TD fan since the mid-70s, etc. etc.:-))
> 
> I've been reading the posts on the group for a while now from work 
> but I thought it wasn't a brilliant idea signing up from there 
> (although I was tempted from time to time) and my home e-mail has 
> been down for over a month. I've only just got it working again, so 
I 
> thought it was high time I got 'legal' and signed up properly. I'm 
> going to try and make it to the Jack Horner beforehand too and hope 
> to meet up with others from the group - sounds like there should be 
a 
> few people there. Hopefully it'll be fairly obvious which is 
the 'TD 
> table' but if you see someone looking a bit lost, it's probably me 
so 
> give me a shout!
> 
> On a more practical note, how are things on parking round the 
Astoria 
> and the Jack Horner? I live in Staffordshire but will be driving 
down 
> from my girlfriend's place in Nottingham on Saturday 
> lunchtime/afternoon. I did consider parking on the outskirts of 
> London and catching the Tube in but with all the stuff about 
> terrorist attacks perhaps a Tube train is not the best place to be. 
> Can anyone give me any ideas?
> 
> All the best
> David
> 
> 
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From: 


'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  5:49
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon...


> > Edgar Froese was in Warum die UFOs unseren Salat klauen (1980)
>with Dan
> > van Husen
> > Dan van Husen was in Holcroft Covenant, The (1985) with Victoria
>Tennant
> > Victoria Tennant was in We Married Margo (2000) with Kevin Bacon
>
>Not really.
...
>In fact it's quite difficult
>to find any two actors who are more than 3 jumps apart.
>
>Glynn


I tried a whole lot of more or less obscure Finnish actors; most of the 
time, the machine either didn't recognize the person in question or gave an 
Edgar Froese number of 3.
But I *did* find some more distant people: Teija Sopanen has an EF number of 
4 and Richard Feynman has an EF number of ... infinity! Probably because 
he's a physician, not an actor. ;)

All of the connections seem to radiate through 'Warum die UFOs unseren Salat 
klauen', though. What sort of a film is this? I have not heard about it 
before.
'Why are UFOs stealing our lettuce'? Geez.

John Vertical

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From: 


Antonio Nunes <hyperborean@m...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  5:59
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Questions ? - Answer ! (Long)


Harry wrote:
> 
> Speaking of which, I'd love to hear how taping was done in the 70's.

I remember a message about this subject, long time ago, with a hilarious
story of a fan who hid his recording equipment in a wheelchair! I hope
the poster of that message is on this list and can repost that funny
story.

Antonio

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From: 


'tei waz' <teiwazbarana@h...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  6:04
pm
Subject:  ks/kdm/manikin/macula transfer/vitn


with all this talk about ks and kdm....I'd like to know more about the 
alleged possible Edgar Froese CD release of macula transfer that 
voices-in-the-net mentions. Was this going to be a complete re-recording or 
overdubbed or a (re)master or ???

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<MESSAGE index="38927">
From: 


'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  6:05
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon...


>But I *did* find some more distant people: Teija Sopanen has an EF number 
>of
>4 and Richard Feynman has an EF number of ... infinity! Probably because
>he's a physician, not an actor. ;)


(replying to myself.. shouldn't have sent the message that soon)

Futhermore, Peter Baumann II (?) and Steve Schroeder have EF numbers of 4, 
too.

(Klaus Schulze is EF 3 and Klaus Kruger EF2)

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<MESSAGE index="38928">
From: 


Armin Theissen <Armin.Theissen@s...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  6:28
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon...


John Vertical wrote:

> > > Edgar Froese was in Warum die UFOs unseren Salat klauen (1980)
> >with Dan
> > > van Husen
> > > Dan van Husen was in Holcroft Covenant, The (1985) with Victoria
> >Tennant
> > > Victoria Tennant was in We Married Margo (2000) with Kevin Bacon
> >
> >Not really.
> ...
> >In fact it's quite difficult
> >to find any two actors who are more than 3 jumps apart.
> >
> >Glynn
>
> I tried a whole lot of more or less obscure Finnish actors; most of the
> time, the machine either didn't recognize the person in question or gave an
> Edgar Froese number of 3.
> But I *did* find some more distant people: Teija Sopanen has an EF number of
> 4 and Richard Feynman has an EF number of ... infinity! Probably because
> he's a physician, not an actor. ;)
>

erm, a physicist, I guess, not a physician. Or does that mean the same in
english?

>
> All of the connections seem to radiate through 'Warum die UFOs unseren Salat
> klauen', though. What sort of a film is this? I have not heard about it
> before.
> 'Why are UFOs stealing our lettuce'? Geez.
>

I remember I've seen bits of it once on german TV. Some low budget movie from
the same director as 'Underground - Auf Scheisser schiesst man nicht', as far
as
I know - the latter a movie with Edgar Froese in a main part and a
TD soundtrack
(Rainer distributed this recently on DVD...). 'Warum die UFO's...' was some
story
about aliens which were comic-style handdrawn on the film. Fun stuff, but I
wasn't that interested at that time and didn't watch it to the end. I didn't
knew
that Edgar appears in it.

armin

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From: 


Armin Theissen <Armin.Theissen@s...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  6:31
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] ks/kdm/manikin/macula transfer/vitn


tei waz wrote:

> with all this talk about ks and kdm....I'd like to know more about the
> alleged possible Edgar Froese CD release of macula transfer that
> voices-in-the-net mentions. Was this going to be a complete re-recording or
> overdubbed or a (re)master or ???

That was a CD edition of the original LP. No messing around with it.
It was soon taken out of distribution. Afaik EF/TDI complained. Legal
story. I'm glad I got hold of a copy as I miss this vinyl (and I miss
the Ages vinyl, unfortunately, and the CD edition misses the last
track).

armin

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From: 


'fozziebear' <fozziebear.beehive@b...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  6:26
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Camera's


David Wakefield said Do you think they will allow camera's in the gig?

If the security is anything like Sheperd's Bush - No.

It is not difficult to get cameras and recorders in. There are ways and
means of doing that. It is difficult to use them without being noticed.

And no..... I am not doing either. Who knows the concert may end up on an
offical CD at some stage.

David (fozziebear)


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From: 


Jonathan Holt <plantpot_73@y...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  6:30
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] ks/kdm/manikin/macula transfer/vitn


I have the cd copy of Ages, which I purchased in 1998
and never saw the vinyl. What is the track that is
missed out on the cd version, what's it like etc?

Jonathan

--- Armin Theissen <Armin.Theissen@s...> wrote: >
tei waz wrote:
> 
>I'm glad I got hold of a copy as I miss this
> vinyl (and I miss
> the Ages vinyl, unfortunately, and the CD edition
> misses the last
> track).
> 
> armin
> 


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From: 


'fozziebear' <fozziebear.beehive@b...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  6:31
pm
Subject:  Astoria Gig - Trains


Those people using main line trains remember that there are meant to be main
line track repairs that evening that are affecting timetables. Some trains
are re-scehduled, others cancelled. 

David


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<MESSAGE index="38933">
From: 


'tei waz' <teiwazbarana@h...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  6:49
pm
Subject:  ef macula transfer vitn quote


I know about the manikin release--should have bought more copies than I did 
but to quote from voices-in-the-net:

'After all other solo albums by Edgar Froese had been re-released by Virgin 
on CD, the only missing one, Macula Transfer, had now become available by 
Manikin Records. This Berlin-based label has become well-known due to some 
releases of material by Klaus Schulze and Ashra. Even if this CD release 
cannot be considered a bootleg, Edgar Froese took steps to stop distribution 
of it, as the rights had been sold to Manikin Records without informing him. 
Edgar Froese's position was that he should have been offered the rights 
first. They had been kept by a company in Hamburg, which had taken over the 
back-catalogue of Metronome/Brain. Manikin bought the rights from that 
company directly,

while Edgar Froese already had plans to release Macula Transfer in a
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
new version on his own.'
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This was to what I was referring--was it to be a rerecording, overdub, 
(re)master or something else???? And well does EF still have a planned 
release for this?

--T

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<MESSAGE index="38934">
From: 


'tei waz' <teiwazbarana@h...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  6:55
pm
Subject:  ages missing track


>What is the track that is
missed out on the cd version, what's it like etc?

Golgatha And The Circle Closes


somewhere I have it on a cassette from a DAT I made for a friend with my 
vinyl before the CD became available.

there's a CDR being traded around too, I think.......


--T


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<MESSAGE index="38935">
From: 


Chris Richards <kohntarkosz@y...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  7:16
pm
Subject:  Re: Definitive Edition CD's


<<From Paedra to Force Majeure the labels are 
white with black font. And labeled with
'Tangerine Dream Definitive edition'.>>


Ya know, this reminds me: I have NEVER seen
Definitive Edition copies of any of the
pre-Encore Virgin releases, likewise for Force
Majeure and Cyclone. A few years back, I ordered
copies of Phaedra, Rubycon and Ricochet from the
local Borders, but the copies they recieved were
apparently the original CD releases. This would
have been about 98 or 99, maybe, so it was well
after the Definitive Editions had been released.
What it made more confusing was that when I
ordered them, the record label listed in their
computer was NOT Virgin. I think it was given as
Gold Rush, I think, but when the CD's arrived,
they were on Virgin. Exactly WHAT is the deal
here?! Does anyone know of a reliable source for
the Definitive Editions (I ended up buying
Phaedra, but I told them to keep the other two).
For that matter, does anyone know if there was
really that much of an improvement on the
Definitive Editions? 


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From: 


'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  7:15
pm
Subject:  Soundtracks etc.


Following some links from that linking-actors site, I stumbled upon a TV 
documentary movie called 'Memphis PD: War on the Streets' (1996) with OST 
credits to TD.
http://us.imdb.com/Title?0117018
I don't recall seing this in any TD OST list; are the lists just outdated, 
or have I made a discovery? Or am I just plain mistaken?


---

On another topic... Just what TD OSTs are still commercially avaivable 
reasonably? (Without extensive searching through the back rooms of some 
queer little record stores across Germany)
I own only Sorcerer, Oasis and Canyon Dreams at the moment; Thief, What a 
Blast and Great Wall of China appear to be common enough, too. Some 
conversations on this list have revealed that Flashpoint, Wavelenght and 
Firestarter are really rare; but what about all the other soundtracks?

Risky Business, Legend, Miracle Mile and Destination Berlin spring to mind 
first on the interest scale.

John Vertical

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<MESSAGE index="38937">
From: 


'Colin Jouxson <convention24@y...>' <convention24@y...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  7:23
pm
Subject:  ages-missing track


Although i bought the ages CD when it got released,there was no way 
i was going to get rid of that double vinyl LP issue,that gatefold 
sleeve is one of my all time favorites with Edgar(the viking) in 
striking pose on back &front cover,and of course those of us who kept 
the vinyl have got 8 minutes and 30 seconds of (Golgatha and the 
circle closes),and the superb 21 minutes of (Tropic Of Capricorn)is 
genial Edgar.


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<MESSAGE index="38938">
From: 


'Owens, James' <james.owens@m...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  7:30
pm
Subject:  Another 'worked with' search


IMDB has a search that works to see if two (or more) people worked together
on a film in ANY capacity. You can specify 'composer' or 'actor' or
'director', etc., or choose any combination of occupation.

http://us.imdb.com/name-search


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<MESSAGE index="38939">
From: 


Antonio Nunes <hyperborean@m...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  7:47
pm
Subject:  Taping hilarious story


I wrote:
> 
> I remember a message about this subject, long time ago, with a hilarious
> story of a fan who hid his recording equipment in a wheelchair!

Thanks to yahoo search facility, I've found that story in the archives.
You can read in http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tadream/message/11796

Antonio


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<MESSAGE index="38940">
From: 


'Paul Dryden' <paulus.d@f...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  8:10
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Camera's


I suppose a small digital camera with a next to nothing lux(light
sensitivity) rating, so no flash is needed and how would know?
Plus all the zoom facilities......
Paulus.d
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Brian Stewart' <pogofish@h...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Camera's


>
>
> Hi
>
> On the back of my ticket, it says that 'Cameras are allowed for personal
use
> only'. It is advisable however not to take anything that might be
> considered 'professional' at SBE, I had no problems at all using a small
> compact with a good lens, whereas some people with more sophisticated
> looking cameras got hassled.
>
> Best
>
> B
>
>
>
>
>
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<MESSAGE index="38941">
From: 
Klaus Beschorner <klaus@c...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  8:13
pm
Subject:  Sheperds Bush concert specials


Hey all,

in case this has been ambiguous:

1. I will not be able to attend the concert. :-(

2. I am still looking for someone who will get a copy of the
'concert special' CD for me.

3. I will pay cash or offer swap material from my list at:
http://www.caby.de/klists/swaplist.txt

4. so... please get in touch with me if you're interested ;-)

cheers,
klaus
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<MESSAGE index="38942">
From: 


Volkmar Friauf <colognese@g...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  8:40
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Astoria Gig - Trains


At 19:31 12.02.2003, David wrote:
>Those people using main line trains remember that there are meant to be 
>main line track repairs that evening that are affecting timetables. Some 
>trains are re-scehduled, others cancelled.
>
>David


Yes, especially Central line (which is one of the links to Tottenham Court 
Road) won't be in service. This is really sad since we've chosed our hotel 
en route to the Central line... But that might not become the biggest 
problem, since they are thinking about closing Heathrow airport. So 
double-check your timetables, and make sure you have plenty of time.

Volkmar


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<MESSAGE index="38943">
From: 


Volkmar Friauf <colognese@g...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  8:42
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] 'Advice on heightened security at Heathrow Airport'


At 15:16 12.02.2003, moxica@a... wrote:
>What about us souls coming in Gatwick?

You might experience delays if they chose to close Heathrow airport 
completely. This seems to be discussed right now...


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<MESSAGE index="38944">
From: 


'michaeljean@e...' <michaeljean@e...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 12, 2003  10:14
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] ks/kdm/manikin/macula transfer/vitn


I think what Tei Waz was referring to was the story that one reasons EF
opposed the release, because he was planning to release a
remaster/re-recording himself. At least that is what I recall hearing some
time ago.

MJ


From: Armin Theissen Armin.Theissen@s...
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 18:31:07 +0000
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tadream] ks/kdm/manikin/macula transfer/vitn


tei waz wrote:

> with all this talk about ks and kdm....I'd like to know more about the
> alleged possible Edgar Froese CD release of macula transfer that
> voices-in-the-net mentions. Was this going to be a complete re-recording
or
> overdubbed or a (re)master or ???

That was a CD edition of the original LP. No messing around with it.
It was soon taken out of distribution. Afaik EF/TDI complained. Legal
story. I'm glad I got hold of a copy as I miss this vinyl (and I miss
the Ages vinyl, unfortunately, and the CD edition misses the last
track).

armin

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From: 


'Chris Owen' <chris@o...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 13, 2003  9:55
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Astoria Gig - Trains


Does anyone know which is the nearest tube station to the Astoria on the
Northern Line - Charing Cross or Leicester Square?

Thanks!

- Chris


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<MESSAGE index="38946">
From: 


'John Marchington' <johnm@p...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 13, 2003  2:55
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Are there also a CD tree for Klaus Schulze?


Yes, so would I. Admittedly, I don't have the full Ultimate Edition yet
(only the Jubilee section of it so far but I'm definitely working on it,
though) or the first Contemporary Works set (I'm ordering that soon).

----- Original Message ----- 
From: 'Armin Theissen' <Armin.Theissen@s...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Are there also a CD tree for Klaus Schulze?


>
> Gosh, that would be *really* interesting! I'd be interested
> in ALL of KS!!!!
>
> armin
>
> Shez wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Sorry to ask here.
> >
> > Is there also a CD tree live trading system for Klaus Schulze
> > concerts?
> >
> > I'd be interested in live performances for let's say the years 74-77.
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From: 


'Glynn Naughton <glynn_naughton@h...>' <glynn_naughton@h...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 13, 2003  8:05
am
Subject:  Have fun on Saturday


To those of you going to the London show this weekend, have fun!

If you don't get blown out of the sky by a surface-to-air missile,
if you don't get caught up in a demonstration and get your head
caved in by the police; if you don't get nerve-gassed in the 
Underground (the bits of it that are working, that is), you 
never know, you might get to see a TD show!

Any survivors who make it back: perhaps you could send us a 
concert report?

And please, please, please: instead of worrying endlessly about
underground stations, you could always buy yourself a map
and (gasp!) walk. Central London isn't that big, and assuming
your hotel is fairly near the venue, it's not going to be
that difficult (honest!) to get there on foot. 

Glynn


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<MESSAGE index="38948">
From: 


Paul Fellows <pfellows@c...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 13, 2003  9:07
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] The Jack Horner Club


Updated list of people going to the TD gig at the London Astoria 15/2/03:

'Billy the Fish' (Tommy Brown?) (Stephen Manship?) must be MI5 this guy :-)
Alan Miller
Alistair Hull
Brian Stewart
Chris & Jan Wojtecki
Chris Hodgson
Chris Owen
Colin Jouxson
Conrad Gibbons & Finnish friend
David Wakefield
Duncan McKee
'Fozzie Bear' (David) & Carol
Gary Jenkins & relation
Giuseppe Milazzo
Heiko Heerssen
Heiko Neumann & wife
Jim Moore
Jorg Jank
Matthew Stringer
Olav Neander
Rainer Rutka
Steve King
Toby Braddick
Vic Rek

That's 29, maybe someone had better warn the pub :-)

Looking forward to meeting you all,

Paul


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<MESSAGE index="38949">
From: 


Paul Fellows <pfellows@c...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 13, 2003  9:07
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Soundtracks etc.


on 12/02/03 20:15, John Vertical at johnvertical@h... wrote:

> Following some links from that linking-actors site, I stumbled upon a TV
> documentary movie called 'Memphis PD: War on the Streets' (1996) with OST
> credits to TD.
> http://us.imdb.com/Title?0117018
> I don't recall seing this in any TD OST list; are the lists just outdated,
> or have I made a discovery? Or am I just plain mistaken?
> 
> 
> ---
> 
> On another topic... Just what TD OSTs are still commercially avaivable
> reasonably? (Without extensive searching through the back rooms of some
> queer little record stores across Germany)
> I own only Sorcerer, Oasis and Canyon Dreams at the moment; Thief, What a
> Blast and Great Wall of China appear to be common enough, too. Some
> conversations on this list have revealed that Flashpoint, Wavelenght and
> Firestarter are really rare; but what about all the other soundtracks?
> 
> Risky Business, Legend, Miracle Mile and Destination Berlin spring to mind
> first on the interest scale.
> 
> John Vertical

Hi,

Firestarter has been released on DVD so is not that hard to find, often
crops up on e-bay. Legend was released on DVD only last year but the TD
soundtrack is only on the zone 1 version, the European release pales in
comparison. Flashpoint and Miracle Mile were only ever released on VHS or
laserdisc and are much harder to find. Near Dark has recently been released
on DVD in Canada, zone 1. Thief is on DVD and is easy to get hold of. The
one which really is rocking horse poo poo is Red Nights on VCD, the
soundtrack is unreleased and is really quite good. Nightmare City/City of
Shadows is a similar case to Red Nights but was never released on DVD or
VCD, the VHS is relatively easy to get hold of however. e-bay is the best
way to get some of the out of print ones.

Paul


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From: 


'David Wakefield' <yahoo@b...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 13, 2003  9:16
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Astoria Gig - Trains


Chris,

Tottenham Court Road, Goodridge Street or Leicester Square are all
close to the Astoria, Tottenham Court Road being the closest. They are all
on the Northern Line. Tottenham Court Road is also on the Central Line.

Dave W

-------Original Message-------

From: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, February 13, 2003 01:54:06
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tadream] Astoria Gig - Trains

Does anyone know which is the nearest tube station to the Astoria on the
Northern Line - Charing Cross or Leicester Square?

Thanks!

- Chris


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<MESSAGE index="38951">
From: 


'David Wakefield' <yahoo@b...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 13, 2003  9:34
am
Subject:  Astoria Map


For anyone still needing direction or map use this link. The little x marks
the Astoria

Dave W


http://search.yell.com/search/ShowMap?panY=0&location=london&panX=0&replayURL=%2\
Fsearch%2FDoSearch%3Fstate%3DAMB%26businessType%3D%26alpha%3D4%2B4008000%26mqs%3\
Dx%26targetName%3D%26broaderLocation%3DGREATER%2BLONDON%257CSOUTH%2BEAST%2BENGLA\
ND%257CENGLAND%257CUNITED%2BKINGDOM%26scrambleSeed%3D22547%26Submit.y%3D0%26loca\
tion%3DLONDON%26Submit.x%3D0%26companyName%3Dastoria%26screen%3DVAL&companyName=\
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<MESSAGE index="38952">
From: 


Marko Marin <rubyconist@y...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 13, 2003  9:35
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Soundtracks etc.


--- John Vertical <johnvertical@h...> wrote:
> On another topic... Just what TD OSTs are still
> commercially avaivable 
> reasonably? (Without extensive searching through the
> back rooms of some 
> queer little record stores across Germany)
> I own only Sorcerer, Oasis and Canyon Dreams at the
> moment; Thief, What a 
> Blast and Great Wall of China appear to be common
> enough, too. Some 
> conversations on this list have revealed that
> Flashpoint, Wavelenght and 
> Firestarter are really rare; but what about all the
> other soundtracks?
> 
> Risky Business, Legend, Miracle Mile and Destination
> Berlin spring to mind 
> first on the interest scale.

Well, as I recall Legend, Wavelength and maybe Near
Dark are out of print from Varese Sarabande. So maybe,
if you're lucky enough, you might find those albums
from some second hand store here in Finland.

Regards,
Marko Marin

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From: 


'David Wakefield' <yahoo@b...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 13, 2003  9:55
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Astoria Map


Oops the link doesn't work. go to www.yell.co.uk and search for Astoria in
London.

Dave W

-------Original Message-------

From: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, February 13, 2003 09:40:40
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] Astoria Map

For anyone still needing direction or map use this link. The little x marks
the Astoria

Dave W


http://search.yell
com/search/ShowMap?panY=0&location=london&panX=0&replayURL=%2Fsearch%2FDoSear
h%3Fstate%3DAMB%26businessType%3D%26alpha%3D4%2B4008000%26mqs%3Dx%26targetNam
%3D%26broaderLocation%3DGREATER%2BLONDON%257CSOUTH%2BEAST%2BENGLAND%257CENGLA
D%257CUNITED%2BKINGDOM%26scrambleSeed%3D22547%26Submit
y%3D0%26location%3DLONDON%26Submit
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From: 
Shez <shez@a...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 13, 2003  10:03
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Soundtracks etc.


>> Risky Business, Legend, Miracle Mile and Destination Berlin spring to mind
>> first on the interest scale.

'Destination Berlin' is quite easy to find on the Internet.
It's a german import.

so basically, you can buy it from amazon.de for example.

'Risky business' is also easy to find, amazon.fr can have it.

for the others, well, it's more difficult.


I saw Flashpoint and 'The Keep' on some on-line store, but on strange
records labels, so I suspect these are bootlets.


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<MESSAGE index="38955">
From: 


<jjank@w...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 13, 2003  9:39
am
Subject:  Re: Re: [tadream] Astoria Gig - Trains


Hi,

could anyone (who is clued in on all this) please summarize all confirmed or
reliable information about what's going on in London on Saturday OR tell us
foreigners how to act.
As far as I understood:
- going to London by plane: if they close Heathrow - will they re-route to
other airports or will the flights be cancelled (worst case) ?
- going to the city centre by train (not by Underground) - which station to
chose ?
- walking through London - which streets at which time to avoid ?
- being at the Jack Horner at 2:30 p.m. - ok for not being involved in
demonstration(s) ?

and one personal question: I'll stay at the Thistle City Barbican (Central
Street Clerkenwell) - is it far away from the venue?

Best regards
Jörg


tadream@yahoogroups.com schrieb am 13.02.03 10:16:27:
> 
> Chris,
> 
> Tottenham Court Road, Goodridge Street or Leicester Square are all
> close to the Astoria, Tottenham Court Road being the closest. They are all
> on the Northern Line. Tottenham Court Road is also on the Central Line.
> 
> Dave W
> 
> -------Original Message-------
> 
> From: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, February 13, 2003 01:54:06
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [tadream] Astoria Gig - Trains
> 
> Does anyone know which is the nearest tube station to the Astoria on the
> Northern Line - Charing Cross or Leicester Square?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> - Chris
> 
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Armin Theissen <Armin.Theissen@s...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 13, 2003  11:15
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] ks/kdm/manikin/macula transfer/vitn


Hi,

I don't remember exactly the last track of Ages.
Was it called 'Golgatha and the Circle Closes'?
Or something like that. It just gave the
double album a round end. I have a tape copy
somewhere (a cousin of mine has the vinyl).

I think you'd be lucky to find the vinyl somewhere.
Always check 2nd hand stores - in Belfast I found
Kamikaze, Baumann's Romance 76, Cyclone with the
mega-cool gatefold picture, and others. Hope
one day they have Ages...

armin

Jonathan Holt wrote:

> I have the cd copy of Ages, which I purchased in 1998
> and never saw the vinyl. What is the track that is
> missed out on the cd version, what's it like etc?
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> --- Armin Theissen <Armin.Theissen@s...> wrote: >
> tei waz wrote:
> 
>>I'm glad I got hold of a copy as I miss this
>>vinyl (and I miss
>>the Ages vinyl, unfortunately, and the CD edition
>>misses the last
>>track).
>>
>>armin
>>
>>
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<MESSAGE index="38957">
From: 
'Brian Stewart' <pogofish@h...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 13, 2003  11:30
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] 'Advice on heightened security at Heathrow Airport'


Hi

<snip>
You might experience delays if they chose to close Heathrow airport
completely.
<snip>


The late news bulletin last night said that this option had been considered 
but that it had been dismissed.


Heathrow is a crazy place at the best of times. I allways seem to step 
right into it when I travel through there. Two incidents leap to mind, 
there have been umpteen others. On the way home from the last SBE gig, 
security took exception to a rolled-up hanky in my pocket - As the guard 
shouted loudly for me to hold my hands away from my body & stand still, I 
saw umpteen security guards come running at me from different directions. 
When they surrounded me, there were 5, two armed. Touchy! On another 
occasion, returning from Paris, they searched my bag & discovered 5 kilos of 
nicely wrapped white powder - I'd brought back some pottery glazes for an 
artist friend! It never crossed my mind that they might think it was 
something else. They had quite some fun with me that time!

This time I booked a flight to Gatwick too. Worked out cheaper & the 
timings are better from Scotland. I hope to get trough there unscathed.


Best

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From: 


'Michael A Jean' <michaeljean@e...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 13, 2003  11:52
am
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Re: Definitive Edition CD's


I think HMV online store you to carry them. You are supposed to be able to
distinuguish them from the old because it should 'remaster' in the
description. Now whether the person packing the order knows the difference
is another question.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Richards [mailto:kohntarkosz@y...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 2:17 PM
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [tadream] Re: Definitive Edition CD's
>
>
> <<From Paedra to Force Majeure the labels are
> white with black font. And labeled with
> 'Tangerine Dream Definitive edition'.>>
>
>
> Ya know, this reminds me: I have NEVER seen
> Definitive Edition copies of any of the
> pre-Encore Virgin releases, likewise for Force
> Majeure and Cyclone. A few years back, I ordered
> copies of Phaedra, Rubycon and Ricochet from the
> local Borders, but the copies they recieved were
> apparently the original CD releases. This would
> have been about 98 or 99, maybe, so it was well
> after the Definitive Editions had been released.
> What it made more confusing was that when I
> ordered them, the record label listed in their
> computer was NOT Virgin. I think it was given as
> Gold Rush, I think, but when the CD's arrived,
> they were on Virgin. Exactly WHAT is the deal
> here?! Does anyone know of a reliable source for
> the Definitive Editions (I ended up buying
> Phaedra, but I told them to keep the other two).
> For that matter, does anyone know if there was
> really that much of an improvement on the
> Definitive Editions?
>
>
>
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From: 
'Brian Stewart' <pogofish@h...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 13, 2003  12:10
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Camera's


Hi

Yes, a digital camera would be good, except for one thing. In the UK, 
copyright persists on ALL digital images no matter what the format wheras 
copyright cannot be enforced on unprocessed photographic film. Makes it 
easier to walk away with the shots if there are problems. I have seen them 
make people go through their memory & delete every image. They cannot take 
the digital camera off you & do this themselves. If a bouncer ever demands 
film off you refuse, insist the police are called, they can do nothing until 
you make inappropriate use of the processed images. I doubt they'd be 
checking that throughly though. Personally, I find that in typical concert 
lighting, a reasonably fast lens & iso 200 film is usually good enough. Open 
the lens up & ignore the meter. If you shoot more than one film, process 
one & if needed, have the processor uprate the next one.

Best

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<MESSAGE index="38960">
From: 


Heiko Heerssen <heiko.heerssen@h...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 13, 2003  1:13
pm
Subject:  London


Below is an email from Tadream member Alan Miller, he requested me to
forward it to the list as he is unable to send it from his workplace.
Regards, Heiko
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\
-------------------------------------------

ALAN MILLER writes:

I notice that there is a lot of concern about safety for this Saturday
due
to the terrorist threat. Can you pass on to the list my honest opinion
of
the situation.

The media have put a great deal of focus on this threat (there is a lack
of
other news around at the moment) and it could be said that it is unusual
for
the government to react so publicly about this situation. However, let
us
consider that there might be an alternative motive by the government -
one
that is designed to gain public support for a war against Iraq. From
what is
shown on the news a similar situation exists in America - people are
being
advised there to buy plastic sheets, tape and fresh water to be used in
the
event of a chemical attack, gas masks are only available at inflated
prices.

Is it a coincidence that there is a government warning about a possible
terrorist attack when there are peace rallies being organised here and
in
the US? Is the UK government over reacting - we had 30 years of REAL
threats
of bombing from the IRA but the then government handled these in a low
key
manner so as not cause major public concern and disruption.

Personally I have no additional concerns for the safety of my family and

myself (we live very close to Heathrow). My real concern for Saturday is

getting in and out of London and finding a good parking space - my next
concern is that TD does not perform at least 2 of my personal favourite
pieces of music.

See you on Saturday at the Jack Horner - subject to traffic and parking
conditions (nothing else will stop me from being there).


 Replies 
 Name/Email 
 Yahoo! ID 
 Date 
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 38972 
 Re: London

 Colin Jouxson <convention24@y...> 
 convention24

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2/13/2003


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From: 


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Date:  Thu Feb 13, 2003  11:14
am
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Digest Number 1684


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There are 15 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

1. ef macula transfer vitn quote
From: 'tei waz' <teiwazbarana@h...>
2. ages missing track
From: 'tei waz' <teiwazbarana@h...>
3. Re: Definitive Edition CD's
From: Chris Richards <kohntarkosz@y...>
4. Soundtracks etc.
From: 'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...>
5. ages-missing track
From: 'Colin Jouxson <convention24@y...>'
<convention24@y...>
6. Another 'worked with' search
From: 'Owens, James' <james.owens@m...>
7. Taping hilarious story
From: Antonio Nunes <hyperborean@m...>
8. Re: Camera's
From: 'Paul Dryden' <paulus.d@f...>
9. Sheperds Bush concert specials
From: Klaus Beschorner <klaus@c...>
10. Re: Astoria Gig - Trains
From: Volkmar Friauf <colognese@g...>
11. Re: 'Advice on heightened security at Heathrow Airport'
From: Volkmar Friauf <colognese@g...>
12. Re: ks/kdm/manikin/macula transfer/vitn
From: 'michaeljean@e...' <michaeljean@e...>
13. Re: Astoria Gig - Trains
From: 'Chris Owen' <chris@o...>
14. Re: Are there also a CD tree for Klaus Schulze?
From: 'John Marchington' <johnm@p...>
15. Have fun on Saturday
From: 'Glynn Naughton <glynn_naughton@h...>'
<glynn_naughton@h...>


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:49:56 -0800
From: 'tei waz' <teiwazbarana@h...>
Subject: ef macula transfer vitn quote

I know about the manikin release--should have bought more copies than I
did 
but to quote from voices-in-the-net:

'After all other solo albums by Edgar Froese had been re-released by
Virgin 
on CD, the only missing one, Macula Transfer, had now become available
by 
Manikin Records. This Berlin-based label has become well-known due to
some 
releases of material by Klaus Schulze and Ashra. Even if this CD release

cannot be considered a bootleg, Edgar Froese took steps to stop
distribution 
of it, as the rights had been sold to Manikin Records without informing
him. 
Edgar Froese's position was that he should have been offered the rights 
first. They had been kept by a company in Hamburg, which had taken over
the 
back-catalogue of Metronome/Brain. Manikin bought the rights from that 
company directly,

while Edgar Froese already had plans to release Macula Transfer in a
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
new version on his own.'
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This was to what I was referring--was it to be a rerecording, overdub, 
(re)master or something else???? And well does EF still have a planned 
release for this?

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:55:55 -0800
From: 'tei waz' <teiwazbarana@h...>
Subject: ages missing track

>What is the track that is
missed out on the cd version, what's it like etc?

Golgatha And The Circle Closes


somewhere I have it on a cassette from a DAT I made for a friend with my

vinyl before the CD became available.

there's a CDR being traded around too, I think.......


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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:16:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Chris Richards <kohntarkosz@y...>
Subject: Re: Definitive Edition CD's

<<From Paedra to Force Majeure the labels are 
white with black font. And labeled with
'Tangerine Dream Definitive edition'.>>


Ya know, this reminds me: I have NEVER seen
Definitive Edition copies of any of the
pre-Encore Virgin releases, likewise for Force
Majeure and Cyclone. A few years back, I ordered
copies of Phaedra, Rubycon and Ricochet from the
local Borders, but the copies they recieved were
apparently the original CD releases. This would
have been about 98 or 99, maybe, so it was well
after the Definitive Editions had been released.
What it made more confusing was that when I
ordered them, the record label listed in their
computer was NOT Virgin. I think it was given as
Gold Rush, I think, but when the CD's arrived,
they were on Virgin. Exactly WHAT is the deal
here?! Does anyone know of a reliable source for
the Definitive Editions (I ended up buying
Phaedra, but I told them to keep the other two).
For that matter, does anyone know if there was
really that much of an improvement on the
Definitive Editions? 


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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 21:15:37 +0200
From: 'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...>
Subject: Soundtracks etc.

Following some links from that linking-actors site, I stumbled upon a TV

documentary movie called 'Memphis PD: War on the Streets' (1996) with
OST 
credits to TD.
http://us.imdb.com/Title?0117018
I don't recall seing this in any TD OST list; are the lists just
outdated, 
or have I made a discovery? Or am I just plain mistaken?


---

On another topic... Just what TD OSTs are still commercially avaivable 
reasonably? (Without extensive searching through the back rooms of some 
queer little record stores across Germany)
I own only Sorcerer, Oasis and Canyon Dreams at the moment; Thief, What
a 
Blast and Great Wall of China appear to be common enough, too. Some 
conversations on this list have revealed that Flashpoint, Wavelenght and

Firestarter are really rare; but what about all the other soundtracks?

Risky Business, Legend, Miracle Mile and Destination Berlin spring to
mind 
first on the interest scale.

John Vertical

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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 19:23:08 -0000
From: 'Colin Jouxson <convention24@y...>'
<convention24@y...>
Subject: ages-missing track

Although i bought the ages CD when it got released,there was no way 
i was going to get rid of that double vinyl LP issue,that gatefold 
sleeve is one of my all time favorites with Edgar(the viking) in 
striking pose on back &front cover,and of course those of us who kept 
the vinyl have got 8 minutes and 30 seconds of (Golgatha and the 
circle closes),and the superb 21 minutes of (Tropic Of Capricorn)is 
genial Edgar.


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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:30:57 -0600
From: 'Owens, James' <james.owens@m...>
Subject: Another 'worked with' search

IMDB has a search that works to see if two (or more) people worked
together
on a film in ANY capacity. You can specify 'composer' or 'actor' or
'director', etc., or choose any combination of occupation.

http://us.imdb.com/name-search


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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 19:47:19 +0000
From: Antonio Nunes <hyperborean@m...>
Subject: Taping hilarious story


I wrote:
> 
> I remember a message about this subject, long time ago, with a
hilarious
> story of a fan who hid his recording equipment in a wheelchair!

Thanks to yahoo search facility, I've found that story in the archives.
You can read in http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tadream/message/11796

Antonio


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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 20:10:09 -0000
From: 'Paul Dryden' <paulus.d@f...>
Subject: Re: Camera's

I suppose a small digital camera with a next to nothing lux(light
sensitivity) rating, so no flash is needed and how would know?
Plus all the zoom facilities......
Paulus.d
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From: 'Brian Stewart' <pogofish@h...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Camera's


>
>
> Hi
>
> On the back of my ticket, it says that 'Cameras are allowed for
personal
use
> only'. It is advisable however not to take anything that might be
> considered 'professional' at SBE, I had no problems at all using a
small
> compact with a good lens, whereas some people with more sophisticated
> looking cameras got hassled.
>
> Best
>
> B
>
>
>
>
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 21:13:31 +0100
From: Klaus Beschorner <klaus@c...>
Subject: Sheperds Bush concert specials


Hey all,

in case this has been ambiguous:

1. I will not be able to attend the concert. :-(

2. I am still looking for someone who will get a copy of the
'concert special' CD for me.

3. I will pay cash or offer swap material from my list at:
http://www.caby.de/klists/swaplist.txt

4. so... please get in touch with me if you're interested ;-)

cheers,
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 21:40:59 +0100
From: Volkmar Friauf <colognese@g...>
Subject: Re: Astoria Gig - Trains

At 19:31 12.02.2003, David wrote:
>Those people using main line trains remember that there are meant to be

>main line track repairs that evening that are affecting timetables.
Some 
>trains are re-scehduled, others cancelled.
>
>David


Yes, especially Central line (which is one of the links to Tottenham
Court 
Road) won't be in service. This is really sad since we've chosed our
hotel 
en route to the Central line... But that might not become the biggest 
problem, since they are thinking about closing Heathrow airport. So 
double-check your timetables, and make sure you have plenty of time.

Volkmar


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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 21:42:43 +0100
From: Volkmar Friauf <colognese@g...>
Subject: Re: 'Advice on heightened security at Heathrow Airport'

At 15:16 12.02.2003, moxica@a... wrote:
>What about us souls coming in Gatwick?

You might experience delays if they chose to close Heathrow airport 
completely. This seems to be discussed right now...


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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 17:14:35 -0500
From: 'michaeljean@e...' <michaeljean@e...>
Subject: Re: ks/kdm/manikin/macula transfer/vitn

I think what Tei Waz was referring to was the story that one reasons EF
opposed the release, because he was planning to release a
remaster/re-recording himself. At least that is what I recall hearing
some
time ago.

MJ


From: Armin Theissen Armin.Theissen@s...
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 18:31:07 +0000
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tadream] ks/kdm/manikin/macula transfer/vitn


tei waz wrote:

> with all this talk about ks and kdm....I'd like to know more about the
> alleged possible Edgar Froese CD release of macula transfer that
> voices-in-the-net mentions. Was this going to be a complete
re-recording
or
> overdubbed or a (re)master or ???

That was a CD edition of the original LP. No messing around with it.
It was soon taken out of distribution. Afaik EF/TDI complained. Legal
story. I'm glad I got hold of a copy as I miss this vinyl (and I miss
the Ages vinyl, unfortunately, and the CD edition misses the last
track).

armin

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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 01:55:48 -0800
From: 'Chris Owen' <chris@o...>
Subject: Re: Astoria Gig - Trains

Does anyone know which is the nearest tube station to the Astoria on the
Northern Line - Charing Cross or Leicester Square?

Thanks!

- Chris


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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:55:26 +1300
From: 'John Marchington' <johnm@p...>
Subject: Re: Are there also a CD tree for Klaus Schulze?

Yes, so would I. Admittedly, I don't have the full Ultimate Edition yet
(only the Jubilee section of it so far but I'm definitely working on it,
though) or the first Contemporary Works set (I'm ordering that soon).

----- Original Message ----- 
From: 'Armin Theissen' <Armin.Theissen@s...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Are there also a CD tree for Klaus Schulze?


>
> Gosh, that would be *really* interesting! I'd be interested
> in ALL of KS!!!!
>
> armin
>
> Shez wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Sorry to ask here.
> >
> > Is there also a CD tree live trading system for Klaus Schulze
> > concerts?
> >
> > I'd be interested in live performances for let's say the years
74-77.
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 08:05:19 -0000
From: 'Glynn Naughton <glynn_naughton@h...>'
<glynn_naughton@h...>
Subject: Have fun on Saturday

To those of you going to the London show this weekend, have fun!

If you don't get blown out of the sky by a surface-to-air missile,
if you don't get caught up in a demonstration and get your head
caved in by the police; if you don't get nerve-gassed in the 
Underground (the bits of it that are working, that is), you 
never know, you might get to see a TD show!

Any survivors who make it back: perhaps you could send us a 
concert report?

And please, please, please: instead of worrying endlessly about
underground stations, you could always buy yourself a map
and (gasp!) walk. Central London isn't that big, and assuming
your hotel is fairly near the venue, it's not going to be
that difficult (honest!) to get there on foot. 

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From: 
'Brian Stewart' <pogofish@h...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 13, 2003  2:27
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] London


Hi

Seconded!

I may be an old cynic, but it is just too much of a coincidence that this 
percieved threat & the peace rallies coincide. Security is usually a 
low-key issue in the UK & I too am convinced that all this fuss really 
serves another purpose.

See you soon

B


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<MESSAGE index="38963">
From: 


tweibrecht@j... 
Date:  Thu Feb 13, 2003  3:44
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Digest Number 1684


> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 19:47:19 +0000
> From: Antonio Nunes <hyperborean@m...>
> Subject: Taping hilarious story
> 
> 
> I wrote:
> > 
> > I remember a message about this subject, long time ago, with a 
> hilarious
> > story of a fan who hid his recording equipment in a wheelchair!
> 
> Thanks to yahoo search facility, I've found that story in the 
> archives.
> You can read in http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tadream/message/11796
> 
> Antonio


That was me...Sure was memorable...

Tom W

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<MESSAGE index="38964">
From: 


moxica@a... 
Date:  Thu Feb 13, 2003  3:39
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Have fun on Saturday


Gee... thanks, Glynn... I think...

--
Jim Moore, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
moxica@a...
> To those of you going to the London show this weekend, have fun!
> 
> If you don't get blown out of the sky by a surface-to-air missile,
> if you don't get caught up in a demonstration and get your head
> caved in by the police; if you don't get nerve-gassed in the 
> Underground (the bits of it that are working, that is), you 
> never know, you might get to see a TD show!

	
</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38965">
From: 
'Brian Stewart' <pogofish@h...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 13, 2003  4:44
pm
Subject:  Now Gatwick


Hi

Looks like the hysteria has hit Gatwick too.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2757143.stm


<snip>In a separate development, Gatwick Airport's North Terminal has been 
closed and evacuated because of a security alert.

Sussex Police would not give any further details or say whether it had 
anything to do with the present state of alert in the UK.<snip>

Ho hum!

B


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From: 


'Sean Montgomery <sean@t...>' <sean@t...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 13, 2003  5:25
pm
Subject:  Re: Now Gatwick


--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Brian Stewart' <pogofish@h...> wrote:
> 
> Looks like the hysteria has hit Gatwick too.
> 
> 
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2757143.stm


Of course! The British people seem to have this funny idea that
bombing Iraq might not be wise...or necessary, for that matter. They
need to be convinced that Saddam and Osama are about to attack.

I have a really nagging fear that a nasty 'terror' attack is about to
be staged somewhere, and pinned on Iraq, to silence opposition to the
war. I hope I'm wrong.


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<MESSAGE index="38967">
From: 


ampmusic <info@a...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 13, 2003  5:46
pm
Subject:  Re: Hoenig?


Did anyone in the UK see or tape the Morgan Fairchild film 'Time Bomb' on
Channel 5 on Thursday afternoon?

The soundtrack seemed like a bad Michael Hoenig. Though it could have been a
good Sylvester Levay :-)


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38968">
From: 


'Pergamon' <pergamon@g...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 13, 2003  6:06
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Now Gatwick


Some call it hysteria, others common sense. Some believe that most of the
middeleast is supporting terrorism and should be utterly destroyed. Others
think that the western world is a sick, egocentric, capitalistic power, with
no respect for other cultures and beliefs. Some thinks it is terrible that
terrorist use violence to state their opinions, but use violence themselves
to stop the terrorists. Others just think every form of violence is
extremely stupid. Some disguise their intention by covering it up with
religious statements, others disguise their thirst for oil with saying they
fight for human rights. No side is better than the other. Both has done
terrible things in the name of some stupid reason. Some thinks the western
life is the right way, others think the western way of living is perverted.
Some think we should help starving people all over the world, but throw away
perfectly good food every day, others claim they need finances to help their
country's starving population, but buy guns instead. Some think it is
terrible that other contry's have a certain level of war-material, but have
it themselves or sells that material to these country's each day.

IMO, no form of violence, whatever reason, can't lead to any good. The end
result can only be lost human lifes. Violence breeds violence. We claim we
are a civilized being, but still kills each other for empty stupid reasons.

Jan

----- Original Message -----
From: <sean@t...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 6:25 PM
Subject: [tadream] Re: Now Gatwick


> --- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Brian Stewart' <pogofish@h...> wrote:
> >
> > Looks like the hysteria has hit Gatwick too.
> >
> >
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2757143.stm
>
>
> Of course! The British people seem to have this funny idea that
> bombing Iraq might not be wise...or necessary, for that matter. They
> need to be convinced that Saddam and Osama are about to attack.
>
> I have a really nagging fear that a nasty 'terror' attack is about to
> be staged somewhere, and pinned on Iraq, to silence opposition to the
> war. I hope I'm wrong.
>
>
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From: 


'Debra Wilson' <the_singing_goat@a...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 13, 2003  6:00
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Soundtracks etc.


I downloaded the Legend soundtrack ages ago, but I haven't been able to find
it listed for less then about $70. anywhere. Aside from that, it's been on
backorder anywhere that has it listed for the last 6 or 8 months to a year
and a half. Not looking good, and that is one I would love to have a
legitimate copy of.

Debra Wilson
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-----Original Message-----
From: Marko Marin [mailto:rubyconist@y...]
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 1:35 AM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tadream] Soundtracks etc.

Well, as I recall Legend, Wavelength and maybe Near
Dark are out of print from Varese Sarabande. So maybe,
if you're lucky enough, you might find those albums
from some second hand store here in Finland.

Regards,
Marko Marin


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From: 


'Chris Owen' <chris@o...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 14, 2003  2:28
am
Subject:  Perspective


I think it's very apt that in the middle of this peace demonstration, and in
the middle of the threat of war on Iraq, some of us will be seeing Tangerine
Dream in concert, a band whose music has always bridged the gap between
people of different languages, races, religions and beliefs. If only the
world leaders could put down their toys for five minutes and come and see
Edgar and the boys. Maybe witnessing two hours of music with the ability to
bond people together from entirely different backgrounds would place their
petty indifferences into sharp and poignant perspective.

- Chris


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From: 


Jonathan Holt <plantpot_73@y...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 13, 2003  6:27
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Now Gatwick


'You can bomb a world to pieces, but you can't bomb it
into peace' - heard that in a song the other day and
it's stuck with me.

Have a good, safe time on Saturday everyone.

--- Pergamon <pergamon@g...> wrote: > 
> 
> IMO, no form of violence, whatever reason, can't
> lead to any good. The end
> result can only be lost human lifes. Violence breeds
> violence. We claim we
> are a civilized being, but still kills each other
> for empty stupid reasons.
> 


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<MESSAGE index="38972">
From: 


'Colin Jouxson <convention24@y...>' <convention24@y...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 13, 2003  7:24
pm
Subject:  Re: London


--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Heiko Heerssen <heiko.heerssen@h...> 
wrote:
> Below is an email from Tadream member Alan Miller, he requested me 
to
> forward it to the list as he is unable to send it from his 
workplace.
> Regards, Heiko
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------------------
> 
> ALAN MILLER writes:
> 
> I notice that there is a lot of concern about safety for this 
Saturday
> due
> to the terrorist threat. Can you pass on to the list my honest 
opinion
> of
> the situation.
> Td hit London again,as Alan Miller says.TRY AND STOP US.
You can stick your terrosists up your arse.
Tangerine Dream-The Undoubted Worlds Number 1
> The media have put a great deal of focus on this threat (there is a 
lack
> of
> other news around at the moment) and it could be said that it is 
unusual
> for
> the government to react so publicly about this situation. However, 
let
> us
> consider that there might be an alternative motive by the 
government -
> one
> that is designed to gain public support for a war against Iraq. From
> what is
> shown on the news a similar situation exists in America - people are
> being
> advised there to buy plastic sheets, tape and fresh water to be 
used in
> the
> event of a chemical attack, gas masks are only available at inflated
> prices.
> 
> Is it a coincidence that there is a government warning about a 
possible
> terrorist attack when there are peace rallies being organised here 
and
> in
> the US? Is the UK government over reacting - we had 30 years of REAL
> threats
> of bombing from the IRA but the then government handled these in a 
low
> key
> manner so as not cause major public concern and disruption.
> 
> Personally I have no additional concerns for the safety of my 
family and
> 
> myself (we live very close to Heathrow). My real concern for 
Saturday is
> 
> getting in and out of London and finding a good parking space - my 
next
> concern is that TD does not perform at least 2 of my personal 
favourite
> pieces of music.
> 
> See you on Saturday at the Jack Horner - subject to traffic and 
parking
> conditions (nothing else will stop me from being there).


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From: 


'Jim Moore' <moxica@a...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 13, 2003  6:40
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Now Gatwick


I wouldn't call it hysteria -- he *did* have a live grenade...

In any case: maybe the media does get carried away. Here's a level-headed
document about the real dangers of bio-chem-nuke terrorism. 
http://www.sightm1911.com/lib/other/nbc.htm

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Stewart [mailto:pogofish@h...] 

Looks like the hysteria has hit Gatwick too.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2757143.stm


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<MESSAGE index="38974">
From: 


Jonathan Holt <plantpot_73@y...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 13, 2003  7:41
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Perspective


It's a nice thought, Chris.

--- Chris Owen <chris@o...> wrote:
> I think it's very apt that in the middle of this
> peace demonstration, and in
> the middle of the threat of war on Iraq, some of us
> will be seeing Tangerine
> Dream in concert, a band whose music has always
> bridged the gap between
> people of different languages, races, religions and
> beliefs. If only the
> world leaders could put down their toys for five
> minutes and come and see
> Edgar and the boys. Maybe witnessing two hours of
> music with the ability to
> bond people together from entirely different
> backgrounds would place their
> petty indifferences into sharp and poignant
> perspective.
> 
> - Chris
> 
> 
> 
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From: 


'richter_arne <arne.richter@g...>' <arne.richter@g...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 13, 2003  8:07
pm
Subject:  Re: Perspective


Which reminds me that exactly while I was driving to Bernau for the 
legendary Tangerine Dream 'Inferno' Concert, the bombing of 
Afghanistan began, they announced it on the radio while I was in my 
car. And here we the next war maybe just days away...

--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Chris Owen' <chris@o...> wrote:
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<MESSAGE index="38976">
From: 


Chris Richards <kohntarkosz@y...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 13, 2003  9:02
pm
Subject:  Re:Legend soundtrack


<<Legend was released on DVD only last year but
the TD soundtrack is only on the zone 1 version,
the European release pales in comparison>>>

Does the fact that it 'pales in comparison' have
anything to do with the fact that the original
European release had an orchestral score composed
by Jerry Goldsmith? From what I see on various
websites, a lot of non-TD fans consider the
American version to be the one that 'pales in
comparison'. 

=====
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From: 


'Owens, James' <james.owens@m...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 13, 2003  9:53
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Re:Legend soundtrack


Chris

Paul is referring to the Region 1 (US/Canada) DVD as opposed to the Region 2
(Europe) DVD.
The Region 1 (and Region 4, I believe) is the much-awaited Director's Cut,
complete with the original Jerry Goldsmith score. Lots of re-mastering and
total re-editing, re-mastered soundtrack, etc. From what I understand, it's
a bit longer than the European theatrical release. The set also includes
the original US theatrical release, along with an 'isolated music only
track' of the TD music. Much to all TD fans' dismay, this is not the music
as used in the movie, but rather a direct transcription of the officially
released soundtrack. Regardless of that, it is still an impressive set.

The Region 2 DVD on the other hand is simply the European theatrical
release, with only minimal re-mastering - no special efforts taken. This is
what Paul meant by '...pales in comparison'.

James

> -----Original Message-----
Paul wrote:
> <<Legend was released on DVD only last year but
> the TD soundtrack is only on the zone 1 version,
> the European release pales in comparison>>>

Then Chris wrote:

> Does the fact that it 'pales in comparison' have
> anything to do with the fact that the original
> European release had an orchestral score composed
> by Jerry Goldsmith? From what I see on various
> websites, a lot of non-TD fans consider the
> American version to be the one that 'pales in
> comparison'. 

	
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From: 


Robert Grabowsky <hghlndr@t...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 13, 2003  10:39
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Soundtracks etc.


Try Supercollector at 1-800-99SCIFI. They probably still have copies of it
and they are in Los Angeles CA.
THE HIGHLANDER


At 10:00 AM 2/13/03 -0800, you wrote:
>I downloaded the Legend soundtrack ages ago, but I haven't been able to find
>it listed for less then about $70. anywhere. Aside from that, it's been on
>backorder anywhere that has it listed for the last 6 or 8 months to a year
>and a half. Not looking good, and that is one I would love to have a
>legitimate copy of.
>
>Debra Wilson
>Billy-Bob's Boers, Percentage Meat Goats in SoCal
>http://home.att.net/~billybobsboers/index.html
>AudioGalaxy, For All Your P2P Needs
>http://home.att.net/~audiogalaxy/index.html
>


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From: 


'David Wakefield' <yahoo@b...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 13, 2003  10:54
pm
Subject:  Meeting at the Pub before the concert


What time is everyone getting there?

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<MESSAGE index="38980">
From: 


'Debra Wilson' <the_singing_goat@a...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 13, 2003  10:43
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Soundtracks etc.


Thanks, I'll keep them in mind if I even come across that green stuff called
money again..lol. :-)

Debra Wilson
Billy-Bob's Boers, Percentage Meat Goats in SoCal
http://home.att.net/~billybobsboers/index.html
AudioGalaxy, For All Your P2P Needs
http://home.att.net/~audiogalaxy/index.html


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Grabowsky [mailto:hghlndr@t...]
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 2:40 PM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [tadream] Soundtracks etc.


Try Supercollector at 1-800-99SCIFI. They probably still have copies of it
and they are in Los Angeles CA.
THE HIGHLANDER


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<MESSAGE index="38981">
From: 


Liondream@a... 
Date:  Thu Feb 13, 2003  11:28
pm
Subject:  Re: definitive


I have the definitive versions Cyclone and Force Majeure.

Don't listen to Cyclone that much.

Force Majeure... definite difference to my ears. More air and depth. The first
time I put it on, it was like listening to it for the very first time.

Listening to the non-definitive version drives me mad now. Can't do it.

As an example, I would liken it to listening to a very very good cassette (the
old one) vs. listening to a good cd (the new one).

Your mileage may vary...

w

Message: 3
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 11:16:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Chris Richards <kohntarkosz@y...>
Subject: Re: Definitive Edition CD's

<<From Paedra to Force Majeure the labels are 
white with black font. And labeled with
'Tangerine Dream Definitive edition'.>>


Ya know, this reminds me: I have NEVER seen
Definitive Edition copies of any of the
pre-Encore Virgin releases, likewise for Force
Majeure and Cyclone. A few years back, I ordered
copies of Phaedra, Rubycon and Ricochet from the
local Borders, but the copies they recieved were
apparently the original CD releases. This would
have been about 98 or 99, maybe, so it was well
after the Definitive Editions had been released.
What it made more confusing was that when I
ordered them, the record label listed in their
computer was NOT Virgin. I think it was given as
Gold Rush, I think, but when the CD's arrived,
they were on Virgin. Exactly WHAT is the deal
here?! Does anyone know of a reliable source for
the Definitive Editions (I ended up buying
Phaedra, but I told them to keep the other two).
For that matter, does anyone know if there was
really that much of an improvement on the
Definitive Editions? 

	
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<MESSAGE index="38982">
From: 


'Tony Lomax <max.lo@n...>' <max.lo@n...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 14, 2003  12:45
am
Subject:  Re: Valentines Day


I think its a very clever ploy on TDs behalf to arrange the concert 
just after Valentines Day. How else are we going to bring the ladies 
and enjoy the evening? Why with Valentines the night before they're 
sure to be suitably content and more than willing to return our 
favours by joining us at the show. 

So remember to do your bit this Valentines Day!

(in order to make this a non-sexist suggestion read it as a woman and 
replace 'ladies' with fellas)


--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Greg' <designx@c...> wrote:
> What is it with TD concerts and Valentines day? Is this some kind of
> attempt to increase the amount of females going to their concerts? 
> 
> Greg H.
> 
> NP: Blue 6 - Music and Wine


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<MESSAGE index="38983">
From: 


'Tony Lomax <max.lo@n...>' <max.lo@n...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 14, 2003  12:56
am
Subject:  Re: Perspective


Lets hope this Valentines Day, a day of world love, Hans Blix will 
tell us there's nothing to worry about and war is not needed. Then 
there will be no need for a peace demo or terrorist threats and we 
can get to the concert on time. Oh, whilst I'm in my ideal world, 
the central line kicks into action too....

--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'richter_arne <arne.richter@g...>' 
<arne.richter@g...> wrote:
> Which reminds me that exactly while I was driving to Bernau for the 
> legendary Tangerine Dream 'Inferno' Concert, the bombing of 
> Afghanistan began, they announced it on the radio while I was in my 
> car. And here we the next war maybe just days away...
> 
> --- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Chris Owen' <chris@o...> wrote:
> > I think it's very apt that in the middle of this peace 
demonstration


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38984">
From: 


'Steve' <steve@c...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 14, 2003  1:02
am
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Re: Valentines Day


Tony inserted his foot into his mouth and said:

> (in order to make this a non-sexist suggestion read it as a woman and
> replace 'ladies' with fellas)

Erm... my partner kinda objects to being described as a woman (basically
because he isn't), and I am not now, nor have I ever been, a woman. However,
if we slightly re-write Oscar Wilde's assertion that 'a lady is a woman who
is never unintentionally vulgar' as 'a lady is someone who is never
unintentionally vulgar' then I can lay my hand on my heart and declare than
I'm a fucking lady ;-)

Steve

www.craftman.co.uk
www.rottievision.com


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<MESSAGE index="38985">
From: 


'Glenn Folkvord \(Hyperion Media\)' <glenn@f...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 14, 2003  1:44
am
Subject:  Most well known movie songs


Hello,

What are TDs 2 or 3 most well known songs composed for movies?

Thanks,
Glenn


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<MESSAGE index="38986">
From: 


'Jeff Lester <jeff.lester@t...>' <jeff.lester@t...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 14, 2003  2:05
am
Subject:  Re: Most well known movie songs


--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Glenn Folkvord \(Hyperion Media\)' 
<glenn@f...> wrote:
> 
> What are TDs 2 or 3 most well known songs composed for movies?

I would suggest 'Love on a Real Train' from Risky Business.

-Jeff Lester


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<MESSAGE index="38987">
From: 


René Brenner <rene.brenner@f...> <rene.brenner@f...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 14, 2003  2:41
am
Subject:  Re: Most well known movie songs


--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Jeff Lester <jeff.lester@t...>'
<jeff.lester@t...> wrote:
> --- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Glenn Folkvord \(Hyperion Media\)' 
> <glenn@f...> wrote:
> > 
> > What are TDs 2 or 3 most well known songs composed for movies?
> 
> I would suggest 'Love on a Real Train' from Risky Business.

White Eagle (Tatort Soundtrack)


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<MESSAGE index="38988">
From: 


Felna Greymane <greymane@g...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 14, 2003  3:46
am
Subject:  Mysterious Semblance


Speaking of Mysterious Semblance, have there been any updates to this in a
while? Mine goes up to 99 & Mars Polaris. I seem to remember something
about a plan to update it. Is Scott on list? I couldn't figure out how to
pull up a complete listing of members.

Jeff


>In Scott Plumer's book 'Mysterious semblance: a Tangerine Dream
chronology' it says
>that 'Cyclone' got released in March 1978, but as you know the tour
already started
>in February. So it seems that the audiences were unaware of what TD was
going to
>play, and for some it must have been quite a surprise to get confronted
with drums &
>'vocals' :-) And since 'Encore' was quite a success it also makes me
wonder why
>the majority of the audience tapes sound so bad. Maybe the security staff
was a bit
>more attentive that year and all the people with good tape recorders had
to leave
>the concert halls? ;-)


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<MESSAGE index="38989">
From: 


PENFOLD <penfold@a...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 14, 2003  3:05
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Most well known movie songs


At 2003.02.14-02:44, Glenn Folkvord \(Hyperion Media\) wrote:
>What are TDs 2 or 3 most well known songs composed for movies?

hands down

_Love On A Real Train_ from 'Risky Business'


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1984, Saw 'The Keep' LP at Tower Records, actually held it, didn't have the 
$$.....Damn!!!!!
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Feldman

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<MESSAGE index="38990">
From: 


'dreamsector <Liondream@a...>' <Liondream@a...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 14, 2003  4:53
am
Subject:  modular again


For those people who want a real modular like the kind TD may have 
used in the late 70s, or those who are hardcore TD collectors... or 
those who are just plain curious:

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&category=30152&item=3310459448


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<MESSAGE index="38991">
From: 


David Butler <daventura98@y...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 14, 2003  6:04
am
Subject:  Memphis P.D. OST


John Vertical wondered about this one. Actually it was
an episode of 'America Undercover' on HBO. There was a
short snippet of something that I can't recall while
someone was driving in a car down a street. You know,
what TD does best...background music. On another
note...I hope everyone stays safe in Londontown. Enjoy
the show and buy up all the stuff, so those of us that
can't make it will have something to look forward to.
And to those of you of the female persuasion...Happy
Valentine's Day....David


__________________________________________________
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Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day
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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38992">
From: 


Eric Williamson <erwill@s...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 14, 2003  8:56
am
Subject:  Re: modular again


On Thursday, February 13, 2003, at 10:53 PM, dreamsector 
<Liondream@a...> wrote:
> For those people who want a real modular like the kind TD may have
> used in the late 70s, or those who are hardcore TD collectors... or
> those who are just plain curious:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
> ViewItem&category=30152&item=3310459448

i just about crapped my pants when i saw that earlier tonight.

i'd buy it if i had 5k sitting around right now. it's a bit more 
expensive than the Synthesizers.com/MOTM setup i'm planning on buying, 
but it would definitely excite me more to have something TD actually 
used. i would love to sequence that thing with the 
Berlin-School-friendly sequencer i've been working with lately.

i'm going to get out my 70-80 box set tomorrow and compare the modules 
to identify _who_ used it.

---
Eric Williamson
www.suitandtieguy.com


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="38993">
From: 


'Ray Hallett' <sequentc@h...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 14, 2003  9:52
am
Subject:  unexpected Tube Closures on 15/2 in London expected


This is the latest as put up by Tube.com

'Safety warning on peace march

Tube stations along route may close as thousands prepare to take to the 
streets By Jack Clark

Crowds expected

Tube bosses last night warned some stations will be closed during tomorrow's 
anti-war march because of safety fears.

They will be the ones where crowding will be be a problem - with almost a 
million people expected to join the protest in central London, which ends in 
a rally at Hyde Park.

Hyde Park Corner, Marble Arch and Lancaster Gate stations will close - with 
no service on the Central or Waterloo & City lines.

Neither will there be any service on the Circle, Hammersmith & City or 
Metropolitan lines between Baker Street and Liverpool Street because of 
tunnelling on the Channel rail link.

But other stations on the route of the march could close abruptly - if too 
many people try and use them.

Trains' boss Rob Mason said: 'We are sorry for the disruption but we need to 
maintain a safe service.'

And, going home, LU ask you to use:

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From: 


'braddito <toby.braddick@u...>' <toby.braddick@u...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 14, 2003  11:10
am
Subject:  Re: unexpected Tube Closures on 15/2 in London expected


The three named stations shouldn't be a problem unless you are 
staying in hotels near them (two of them are on the Central only, so 
being closed is nothing new).

The closure between Baker Street and Liverpool Street is bad news as 
it severely restricts movements for anyone using Stansted Airport who 
is staying in London. It will also be bad for people using Heathrow 
who might have used the Heathrow Express to get in to London quickly 
as they will now be struggling to move on from Paddington with any 
ease (Bakerloo to the central West End or other tubes west bound 
only, meaning lots of changes).

http://www.multimap.com/

Please see the tube map to plan alternative routes. Try to avoid 
using taxi's unless you can't get anywhere nearer your hotel by tube.

Regards
Toby

--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Ray Hallett' <sequentc@h...> wrote:
> 
> Hyde Park Corner, Marble Arch and Lancaster Gate stations will 
close - with 
> no service on the Central or Waterloo & City lines.
> 
> Neither will there be any service on the Circle, Hammersmith & City 
or 
> Metropolitan lines between Baker Street and Liverpool Street 
because of 
> tunnelling on the Channel rail link.


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<MESSAGE index="38995">
From: 


'Grant M Somerville' <Grant.somerville@v...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 14, 2003  12:19
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] The Jack Horner Club


Ok...I'll admit it. Me too.

Cheers,

Grant.
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Paul Fellows' <pfellows@c...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: [tadream] The Jack Horner Club


> Updated list of people going to the TD gig at the London Astoria 15/2/03:
>
> 'Billy the Fish' (Tommy Brown?) (Stephen Manship?) must be MI5 this guy
:-)
> Alan Miller
> Alistair Hull
> Brian Stewart
> Chris & Jan Wojtecki
> Chris Hodgson
> Chris Owen
> Colin Jouxson
> Conrad Gibbons & Finnish friend
> David Wakefield
> Duncan McKee
> 'Fozzie Bear' (David) & Carol
> Gary Jenkins & relation
> Giuseppe Milazzo
> Heiko Heerssen
> Heiko Neumann & wife
> Jim Moore
> Jorg Jank
> Matthew Stringer
> Olav Neander
> Rainer Rutka
> Steve King
> Toby Braddick
> Vic Rek
>
> That's 29, maybe someone had better warn the pub :-)
>
> Looking forward to meeting you all,
>
> Paul
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
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>
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>
>
>


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<MESSAGE index="38996">
From: 


'Spear man' <spearman@h...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 14, 2003  12:54
am
Subject:  dat fripp 81 story


dat fripp 81 story is gettin' around--even saw it on the lesclaypool/primus 
bull board

--T


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<MESSAGE index="38997">
From: 


'david020760 <david020760@y...>' <david020760@y...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 14, 2003  12:17
am
Subject:  Re: The Jack Horner Club


--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Paul Fellows <pfellows@c...> wrote:
> Updated list of people going to the TD gig at the London Astoria 
15/2/03:
> 
> 'Billy the Fish' (Tommy Brown?) (Stephen Manship?) must be MI5 this 
guy :-)
> Alan Miller
> Alistair Hull
> Brian Stewart
> Chris & Jan Wojtecki
> Chris Hodgson
> Chris Owen
> Colin Jouxson
> Conrad Gibbons & Finnish friend
> David Wakefield
> Duncan McKee
> 'Fozzie Bear' (David) & Carol
> Gary Jenkins & relation
> Giuseppe Milazzo
> Heiko Heerssen
> Heiko Neumann & wife
> Jim Moore
> Jorg Jank
> Matthew Stringer
> Olav Neander
> Rainer Rutka
> Steve King
> Toby Braddick
> Vic Rek
> 
> That's 29, maybe someone had better warn the pub :-)
> 
> Looking forward to meeting you all,
> 
> Paul

Count me in - so that's the big 3 zero then (unless someone else has 
snuck in already)

David Gore


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<MESSAGE index="38998">
From: 


'david020760 <david020760@y...>' <david020760@y...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 14, 2003  12:04
am
Subject:  Re: Astoria gig


OK, OK, you've convinced me (guess you've figured out already that 
I'm not that familiar with London:-)) so I guess it's the Tube then, 
maybe from somewhere like a station on the Northern Line (the only 
one I'm at all familiar with).

See you Saturday!
David Gore 


--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'braddito <toby.braddick@u...>' 
<toby.braddick@u...> wrote:
> Don't even think about trying to drive in to London on Saturday. 
> David's idea is good - there are a number of stations just outside 
> London that are handy for the M25 or M1 : Stevenage, St Albans and 
> Watford if you don't fancy risking Wembley. Similarly, don't be 
> tempted to use buses in the West End either, I don't think they'll 
be 
> moving.
> 
> Toby
> 
> --- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'David Wakefield' <yahoo@b...> 
wrote:
> > I am coming down on the train to avoid the traffic etc. If you 
are 
> going 
> > to drive and assuming the tubes etc are running I would suggest 
you 
> park
> > at the Wembley tube station and tube in. With the protest etc 
going 
> on I
> > wouldn't risk trying to drive through it.
> > 
> > Dave W
> > 
> > -------Original Message-------
> > 
> > From: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 08:21:53
> > To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [tadream] Astoria gig
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > This is my first post so it seemed sort of appropriate to use it 
to 
> > say that, yes, I'll be there on Saturday too. 
> > 
> > TD fan since the mid-70s, etc. etc.:-))
> > 
> > I've been reading the posts on the group for a while now from 
work 
> > but I thought it wasn't a brilliant idea signing up from there 
> > (although I was tempted from time to time) and my home e-mail has 
> > been down for over a month. I've only just got it working again, 
so 
> I 
> > thought it was high time I got 'legal' and signed up properly. 
I'm 
> > going to try and make it to the Jack Horner beforehand too and 
hope 
> > to meet up with others from the group - sounds like there should 
be 
> a 
> > few people there. Hopefully it'll be fairly obvious which is 
> the 'TD 
> > table' but if you see someone looking a bit lost, it's probably 
me 
> so 
> > give me a shout!
> > 
> > On a more practical note, how are things on parking round the 
> Astoria 
> > and the Jack Horner? I live in Staffordshire but will be driving 
> down 
> > from my girlfriend's place in Nottingham on Saturday 
> > lunchtime/afternoon. I did consider parking on the outskirts of 
> > London and catching the Tube in but with all the stuff about 
> > terrorist attacks perhaps a Tube train is not the best place to 
be. 
> > Can anyone give me any ideas?
> > 
> > All the best
> > David
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
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> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
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> > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> > 
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> > http://www.tadream.net/tree 
> > 
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to 
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 
> > 
> > 
> > . 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


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<MESSAGE index="38999">
From: 


'Ray Hallett' <sequentc@h...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 14, 2003  4:05
pm
Subject:  15/2 how I'm getting there - approaching London from the North by car.


How I'm getting there from the North.

If you are travelling by car etc..... and are North of London, travel down 
the A1 and at the M25 take the left turn onto the M25 towards Dartford 
tunnel and continue for a few miles. At the first junction take the turning 
off towards Cockfosters and follow the signs, down the hill and head towards 
the Tube Station - Cockfosters which is on the left. Enter the Tube car 
park and Park your car for the whole day for about £2.00 to £2.50 and then 
fetch the tube (Piccadilly Line) to Leicester Sq, at arrival in Leicester Sq 
its about 10 mins walk from Leicester Sq to Astoria etc....

Alternatively think about using Stanmore underground station perhaps...

The Demonstration - Don't attack Iraq.
As I expect the day will be quite COLD in London around '0'c, and most of 
the crowd are heading towards Hyde Park etc... I imagine after a few hours 
and certinaly by 5.30 pm the crowd will have had enough and disperse and be 
glad to get home and warm up .... also avoid going into the demonstration 
and avoid this as far as possible. ....

I will try to make the Jack Horner pub and now doubt recognise the TD corner 
quiet quickly.

Ray


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<MESSAGE index="39000">
From: 


Liondream@a... 
Date:  Fri Feb 14, 2003  4:08
pm
Subject:  Re: modular


It would be interesting to hear what you discover. Yeah, this would be exciting
to have on two levels... because it was used by TD but even moreso because it's
a PPG.


<<<Message: 20
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 02:56:51 -0600
From: Eric Williamson <erwill@s...>
Subject: Re: modular again

On Thursday, February 13, 2003, at 10:53 PM, dreamsector
<Liondream@a...> wrote:
> For those people who want a real modular like the kind TD may have
> used in the late 70s, or those who are hardcore TD collectors... or
> those who are just plain curious:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
> ViewItem&category=30152&item=3310459448

i just about crapped my pants when i saw that earlier tonight.

i'd buy it if i had 5k sitting around right now. it's a bit more
expensive than the Synthesizers.com/MOTM setup i'm planning on buying,
but it would definitely excite me more to have something TD actually
used. i would love to sequence that thing with the
Berlin-School-friendly sequencer i've been working with lately.

i'm going to get out my 70-80 box set tomorrow and compare the modules
to identify _who_ used it.

---
Eric Williamson
www.suitandtieguy.com>>>

	
</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39001">
From: 


IntheShadows2003@a... 
Date:  Fri Feb 14, 2003  4:13
pm
Subject:  Boots of Prog group


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bootsofprog/
This group is for weeding out Prog shows on a no profit basis. Offer shows to 
be weeded out to three members and they must weed back to the group. NO 
SELLING AND NO PROFIT. Play fair and be fair. 


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


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<MESSAGE index="39002">
From: 


Paul Fellows <pfellows@c...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 14, 2003  7:26
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re:Legend soundtrack


Thanks for that James, couldn't have put it better myself:-)

Paul

on 13/02/03 22:53, Owens, James at james.owens@m... wrote:

> Chris
> 
> Paul is referring to the Region 1 (US/Canada) DVD as opposed to the Region 2
> (Europe) DVD.
> The Region 1 (and Region 4, I believe) is the much-awaited Director's Cut,
> complete with the original Jerry Goldsmith score. Lots of re-mastering and
> total re-editing, re-mastered soundtrack, etc. From what I understand, it's
> a bit longer than the European theatrical release. The set also includes
> the original US theatrical release, along with an 'isolated music only
> track' of the TD music. Much to all TD fans' dismay, this is not the music
> as used in the movie, but rather a direct transcription of the officially
> released soundtrack. Regardless of that, it is still an impressive set.
> 
> The Region 2 DVD on the other hand is simply the European theatrical
> release, with only minimal re-mastering - no special efforts taken. This is
> what Paul meant by '...pales in comparison'.
> 
> James
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
> Paul wrote:
>> <<Legend was released on DVD only last year but
>> the TD soundtrack is only on the zone 1 version,
>> the European release pales in comparison>>>
> 
> Then Chris wrote:
> 
>> Does the fact that it 'pales in comparison' have
>> anything to do with the fact that the original
>> European release had an orchestral score composed
>> by Jerry Goldsmith? From what I see on various
>> websites, a lot of non-TD fans consider the
>> American version to be the one that 'pales in
>> comparison'. 
> 


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39003">
From: 


David Dunham <tandreamelp@y...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 15, 2003  12:55
am
Subject:  OT Vacation


Hi to all. I have some friends going to England and
Scotland in late June. Can anyone over there recommend
any places for them to see . They like Flea markets
Antiques and caves and waterfalls. Also any Pagan
sites Thanks Dave


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<MESSAGE index="39004">
From: 


'Adele Outland' <outlanda60@h...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 15, 2003  2:12
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re:Funny taping story


That would be tomw,one of the uwp list greats; you still there guy?
8-Dell


As time slips into memory, memory fades into dreams.


>From: Antonio Nunes <hyperborean@m...>
>Reply-To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
>To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [tadream] Re: Questions ? - Answer ! (Long)
>Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 17:59:20 +0000
>
>
>
>Harry wrote:
> >
> > Speaking of which, I'd love to hear how taping was done in the 70's.
>
>I remember a message about this subject, long time ago, with a hilarious
>story of a fan who hid his recording equipment in a wheelchair! I hope
>the poster of that message is on this list and can repost that funny
>story.
>
>Antonio
>
>np: Detlef Keller - Different Faces


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<MESSAGE index="39005">
From: 


'Adele Outland' <outlanda60@h...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 15, 2003  2:30
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] ages missing track


Yes it's on 'Drowned Paths of Higher Perspective' 8-Dell


As time slips into memory, memory fades into dreams.


>From: 'tei waz' <teiwazbarana@h...>
>Reply-To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
>To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [tadream] ages missing track
>Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:55:55 -0800
>
> >What is the track that is
>missed out on the cd version, what's it like etc?
>
>Golgatha And The Circle Closes
>
>
>somewhere I have it on a cassette from a DAT I made for a friend with my
>vinyl before the CD became available.
>
>there's a CDR being traded around too, I think.......
>
>
>--T


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<MESSAGE index="39006">
From: 


Falcon <falcon@r...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 15, 2003  11:20
am
Subject:  Washington 77


Hi,

i know that there are 2 version of this concert, the original broadcast and 
a re-broadcast in 1986. Which one has the 'please send money' during the 
first 2 sets and which one has the intro and interludes (used on the TT 
version) ?

Ramon 


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<MESSAGE index="39007">
From: 


'Alan Miller' <alan-miller@e...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 15, 2003  12:07
pm
Subject:  Fans on camera tonight....


For those that cannot make the gig. This link takes you to a traffic camera
opposite the Astoria. Watch the queue from 5pm (GMT).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/travel/jamcams/north_central.shtml

Alan

Dream on..........


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<MESSAGE index="39008">
From: 


'Alan Miller' <alan-miller@e...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 15, 2003  12:13
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Fans on camera tonight....


Oh, I should have added that you need to select the camera - it's the Centre
Point one....first camera icon below Bloomsbury on the map - place the mouse
over the camera icon and the name should come up. The camera takes different
angles - it's the Charing Cross Road one that will show the Astoria, the
angles / shots change by themselves every couple of minutes.

Alan

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Alan Miller' <alan-miller@e...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 12:07 PM
Subject: [tadream] Fans on camera tonight....


> For those that cannot make the gig. This link takes you to a traffic
camera
> opposite the Astoria. Watch the queue from 5pm (GMT).
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/travel/jamcams/north_central.shtml
>
> Alan
>
> Dream on..........
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


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<MESSAGE index="39009">
From: 


'Robert Asmus' <asmus0324@c...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 15, 2003  12:42
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Fans on camera tonight....


Is that a protest going on in the back ground right now?

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Miller [mailto:alan-miller@e...] 
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 7:14 AM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tadream] Fans on camera tonight....

Oh, I should have added that you need to select the camera - it's the
Centre
Point one....first camera icon below Bloomsbury on the map - place the
mouse
over the camera icon and the name should come up. The camera takes
different
angles - it's the Charing Cross Road one that will show the Astoria, the
angles / shots change by themselves every couple of minutes.

Alan

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Alan Miller' <alan-miller@e...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 12:07 PM
Subject: [tadream] Fans on camera tonight....


> For those that cannot make the gig. This link takes you to a traffic
camera
> opposite the Astoria. Watch the queue from 5pm (GMT).
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/travel/jamcams/north_central.shtml
>
> Alan
>
> Dream on..........
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


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<MESSAGE index="39010">
From: 


'Greg' <designx@c...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 15, 2003  1:01
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Fans on camera tonight....


It looks like a human blockade set up straight through the street..
Looks like I need to play a little Exit for the proper musical setting..

Greg H.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: 'Robert Asmus' <asmus0324@c...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 5:42 AM
Subject: RE: [tadream] Fans on camera tonight....


> Is that a protest going on in the back ground right now?
> 


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39011">
From: 


'Alan Miller' <alan-miller@e...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 15, 2003  1:10
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Fans on camera tonight....


That is part of the peace rally which started some 500 yards from that
point - just off now to join the crowds (the TD one of course)


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Robert Asmus' <asmus0324@c...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 12:42 PM
Subject: RE: [tadream] Fans on camera tonight....


> Is that a protest going on in the back ground right now?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan Miller [mailto:alan-miller@e...]
> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 7:14 AM
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [tadream] Fans on camera tonight....
>
> Oh, I should have added that you need to select the camera - it's the
> Centre
> Point one....first camera icon below Bloomsbury on the map - place the
> mouse
> over the camera icon and the name should come up. The camera takes
> different
> angles - it's the Charing Cross Road one that will show the Astoria, the
> angles / shots change by themselves every couple of minutes.
>
> Alan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Alan Miller' <alan-miller@e...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 12:07 PM
> Subject: [tadream] Fans on camera tonight....
>
>
> > For those that cannot make the gig. This link takes you to a traffic
> camera
> > opposite the Astoria. Watch the queue from 5pm (GMT).
> >
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/travel/jamcams/north_central.shtml
> >
> > Alan
> >
> > Dream on..........
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> >
> > Tangerine Tree info at
> > http://www.tadream.net/tree
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


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<MESSAGE index="39012">
From: 


'Paul Dryden' <paulus.d@f...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 15, 2003  1:16
pm
Subject:  Its Today...........


Probably not much mail today from the group!
Most of you are in London, I expect!!!!
I shall join you, in spirit at least, at 6.45pm till 10-11 pm playing all the
TT's and CT's.
Hope travel in London is not too bad... Iam a bit sorry they choose today for
thier demo and not next week...
I look forward to the reviews and post when you get back...

Paulus.d


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<MESSAGE index="39013">
From: 


moxica@a... 
Date:  Sat Feb 15, 2003  12:49
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Fans on camera tonight....


Something like that -- I'm about 2 blocks from there now cooling my heels...

- jim

--
Jim Moore, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
moxica@a...
> Is that a protest going on in the back ground right now?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan Miller [mailto:alan-miller@e...] 
> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 7:14 AM
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [tadream] Fans on camera tonight....
> 
> Oh, I should have added that you need to select the camera - it's the
> Centre
> Point one....first camera icon below Bloomsbury on the map - place the
> mouse
> over the camera icon and the name should come up. The camera takes
> different
> angles - it's the Charing Cross Road one that will show the Astoria, the
> angles / shots change by themselves every couple of minutes.
> 
> Alan
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Alan Miller' <alan-miller@e...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 12:07 PM
> Subject: [tadream] Fans on camera tonight....
> 
> 
> > For those that cannot make the gig. This link takes you to a traffic
> camera
> > opposite the Astoria. Watch the queue from 5pm (GMT).
> >
> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/london/travel/jamcams/north_central.shtml
> >
> > Alan
> >
> > Dream on..........
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> >
> > Tangerine Tree info at
> > http://www.tadream.net/tree
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com 
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> 
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree 
> 
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com 
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> 
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree 
> 
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 
> 
> 

	
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<MESSAGE index="39014">
From: 


'Bill Fox' <billfox@f...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 15, 2003  3:10
pm
Subject:  EMUSIC Playlist #308 for February 13, 2003


[ Best viewed using a fixed spacing font. ]

EMUSIC is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday
at 11:00 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton,
PA and Phillipsburg, NJ.

Show #308 February 13, 2003.


RECAP:
On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Orbital Decay, a spacemusic
duo in the Quakertown area who will be at the next Soundscapes Concert Series
on February 22. The Featured CD at midnight was 'The Key of Sea.'

The Vinyl Starter was from the LP 'Cluster and Eno' by Cluster and Brian Eno on
Sky Records.

I also played the music of Mikronesia, one of the acts that will be appearing
at The Gate to Moonbase Alpha on Friday, February 21, 2003.

Orbital Decay
http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic/playlists/2003/focus03.html#feb
Soundscapes Concert Series http://soundscapes.us
Gate to Moonbase Alpha http://simpletone.com


PLAYLIST:

ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label)
======================= ======================== ==============================
11:00 pm
Cluster and Eno Ho Renomo Cluster and Eno (Sky Records)
Mikronesia Thursday Morning in the Mikronesia (none)
Cube
VA [Alio Die and The Falson A Slight Touch of Grace
Mathias Grassow (Relapse)
Artimy Artemiev and Endless Voyage A Moment of Infinity
Phillip B. Klinger (Electroshock)
vidnaObmana The Nihilist Spore (Relapse)
vidnaObmana Creep - Isolation Trip Spore (Relapse)
Jurgen Haible Dark November Dark November (none)
Liquid Mind Through My Eyes * Spirit (Chuck Wild Records)

12:00 am
Orbital Decay The Key of Sea The Key of Sea (none)

1:00 am

* = exerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)


NEXT SHOW:
On the next EMUSIC, I'll continue the month-long focus on Orbital Decay. The
Featured CD at Midnight will be 'Live on EMUSIC 12-27-2001.'

The vinyl show starter will be from the LP 'Computer Voice' by Robert Schroder
on Racket Records.

Bill
===============================================================================
Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at
11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and
Phillipsburg. http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic All times are GMT-5:00
Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN
To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, go to
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emusic-wdiy and click on [Join This Group!]
Host of the AM/FM Show on WMUH Allentown 91.7 FM every other Saturday at 6 am.
Host of Afterglow on WMUH every Thursday morning from 8:00 to 9:30.
http://soundscapes.us/~bill/amfm http://soundscapes.us/~bill/afterglow
Listen on-line to WMUH at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click REAL AUDIO
Personal site: http://soundscapes.us/~bill All times are GMT-5:00
SOUNDSCAPES Concert Series: http://soundscapes.us


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<MESSAGE index="39015">
From: 


'Bill Fox' <billfox@f...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 15, 2003  3:43
pm
Subject:  The AM/FM Show Playlist for February 15, 2003


[ Best viewed using a fixed spacing font. ]

The Saturday AM/FM Show is hosted every other week by Bill Fox who plays
electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other
genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and
on the internet. Send me comments if you love or hate what I played. I also
host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am.

I played the music of Orbital Decay, the headlining act at the next Soundscapes
Concert Series on February 22, at Bethlehem's IceHouse on Sand Island.

Orbital Decay http://soundscapes.us
Gate to Moonbase Alpha http://simpletone.com
Simon Apple http://simonapple.com


Show #17 February 15, 2003.


PLAYLIST:


Phase I/Space:

ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label)
======================= ======================== ==============================
vidnaObmana Spore Spore (Relapse)
Mikronesia Moisturizing Vehicle Mikronesia (none)
Jurgen Haible Azriel Part 3: Roaming Dark November (none)
the Centuries
Logic Gate Code Red * From the Silence (MP3.COM)
Orbital Decay Exerpt of 12-Aug-01 Live on WXPN (none)
Star's End Broadcast

Phase II/Eclectic:

ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label)
======================= ======================== ==============================
Tom Barabas Adagio by T. Albinoni Classical Healing (Soundings
of the Planet)
Jon Durant In Her Memories, She Brief Light (Alchemy Records)
Floats
VA [Angels of Venice] After the Harvest Windham Hill Chill (Windham
Hill)
VA [Alex De Grassi] Western Windham Hill Chill (Windham
Hill)
Paul Schwartz Addio Aria 2 (Astor Place)

Phase III/Progressive Rock:

ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label)
======================= ======================== ==============================
Yes Yours Is No Disgrace The Yes Album (Atlantic)
The Jelly Jam I Can't Help You The Jelly Jam (InsideOut)
Simon Apple Par Avion Tributes (none)
Motoi Sakuraba Motion Gikyokounsou (Musea)
The Flower Kings World of Adventures Back in the World of
Adventures (InsideOut)

* = exerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)

I return to the AM/FM Show in two weeks on March 1.

Bill
===============================================================================
Host of the AM/FM Show on WMUH Allentown 91.7 FM every other Saturday at 6 am.
Host of Afterglow on WMUH every Thursday morning from 8:00 to 9:30.
http://soundscapes.us/~bill/amfm http://soundscapes.us/~bill/afterglow
Listen on-line to WMUH at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click REAL AUDIO
Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at
11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and
Phillipsburg. http://wdiy.org/programs/emusic All times are GMT-5:00
Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN
To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, go to
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/emusic-wdiy and click on [Join This Group!]
Personal site: http://soundscapes.us/~bill All times are GMT-5:00
SOUNDSCAPES Concert Series: http://soundscapes.us


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39016">
From: 


'Paul Dryden' <paulus.d@f...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 15, 2003  7:25
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Most well known movie songs


Probably a bit late but 'Shy People' is on TV in Uk - That has a TD
soundtrack/title theme! (sounds like Tina Turner!!)

Paulus.d

----- Original Message -----
From: 'PENFOLD' <penfold@a...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 3:05 AM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Most well known movie songs


> At 2003.02.14-02:44, Glenn Folkvord \(Hyperion Media\) wrote:
> >What are TDs 2 or 3 most well known songs composed for movies?
>
> hands down
>
> _Love On A Real Train_ from 'Risky Business'
>
>
> Pete Isaacson aka °º¤ø,¸DJ DreamHead¸,ø¤º°
> mailto:penfold@a...?subject=DJDreamHead
> http://www.anet.net/~penfold/)^(djdreamhead.html
> Yahoo Chat: penfold235 ····· AIM: PENFOLD235
> 1984, Saw 'The Keep' LP at Tower Records, actually held it, didn't have
the
> $$.....Damn!!!!!
> 'Absence of the KEEP LP is not evidence of its non-existence.' - Steven
> Feldman
>
> Watch the Coasters Grow! at:
http://www.anet.net/~penfold/coastergarden.html
>
>
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> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
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> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
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> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39017">
From: 


tom weibrecht <tweibrecht@j...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 15, 2003  7:25
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Digest Number 1687


> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 00:54:06 +0000
> From: 'Spear man' <spearman@h...>
> Subject: dat fripp 81 story
> 
> dat fripp 81 story is gettin' around--even saw it on the 
> lesclaypool/primus 
> bull board
> 
> --T

I have the master to prove it...

Tom W

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<MESSAGE index="39018">
From: 


'miles macmillan' <mmacmillan@c...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 15, 2003  7:40
pm
Subject:  Dreamwatcher's Tales 3


Hey folks,

I've got to commend everyone on the list who contributed to the Dreamwatcher's
Tales 3 double-disc set, it is fantastic. I received my discs from my branch
on Monday and they haven't left my car stereo yet, except to alternate disc 1
for disc 2. The talent of everyone involved is obvious and the performances
are all varied and interesting. I like every single cut on the compilation,
which is amazing for a 2-disc set of this length.

I haven't had a chance to sit down with the disc and put names to all of the
performances, but I must say kudos to all involved, I am extremely impressed!

Miles MacMillan

P.S. The artwork is awsome as well, although it took me about an hour and much
paper and ink before I realized how it was supposed to go together!


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<MESSAGE index="39019">
From: 


'Kevin Ball' <KevinBall@T...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  12:04
am
Subject:  Astoria - 15/02/03 - Was It Live?


Was it hell?

Still I enjoyed it.

Full review in the morning!

	
</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39020">
From: 


'Gary Jenkins <quinoa@v...>' <quinoa@v...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  12:28
am
Subject:  Astoria CD


A great night enjoyed better than SBE,Edgar even got his guitar out 
at the end.
The Astoria CD has 3 tracks 1 from the new studio album Mota Atma!and 
2 from Dream Mixes 4.

Now off to bed Gary


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 Quick Review

 Matthew Stringer 
   
 Sun 
2/16/2003


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 39048 
 Quick Review

 Matthew Stringer 
   
 Sun 
2/16/2003


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 39049 
 aSTORIA

 Matthew Stringer 
   
 Sun 
2/16/2003


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 39052 
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From: 


quarlie@a... 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  4:47
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Astoria CD


In a message dated 2/15/03 7:29:47 PM, quinoa@v... writes:

>A great night enjoyed better than SBE,Edgar even got his guitar out 
>at the end.

Wow! Sweet. I wish I could've been there.

--Daniel
NP: Massive Attack - 100th Window

	
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<MESSAGE index="39022">
From: 


'fozziebear' <fozziebear.beehive@b...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 15, 2003  10:21
pm
Subject:  Astoria first impressions


Before the show. The day started minus 3 degrees C and very sunny. The
train to London was full of peace protesters going to the rally and rugby fans.
It was difficult to get round on the tubes because they were packed full of
peace protesters. We got to talk to a lot of people about it and they were
all peaceful and expecting that polticians would take note that it is imporatnt
to disarm mad leaders and to do so in a way that doesn't harm people like us. 
We had a wonderful day at the Science and Natural History museums. I think it
makes the whole experience better that the museums are free. They should be
free to all. We got to hear a talk from Spaceman Gene Cernan about the Apollo
10 mission (well he was an actor who pretended to be him). We got to the
Jack Horner on the late side and managed just a few hellos. By around 5.45pm
there was an enormous queue of people around the Astoria as far back as Soho
Square. The doors opened propmptly. It was quick to get in.

The show
This was well organised. The Astoria was a much friendlier venue than
Shepherds Bush. I did have a security guard who wanted to confiscate my
bottle of water! After I protested he backed off. Fans were able to use
cameras, videos and probably recorders freely. I did not see any dat / tape
recorders. I think I saw some fan video the whole show. 

We were on the balcony. The lay out gave nearly everybody a good and close
view. It was easy for people to go to the bar without missing much of the
show and without inconveniencing others. We could see the hand movements on
the keyboards and note who was soloing on what. The lightshow was minial but
bright enough to see everything. A lot of fans were dancing. There was
clapping for nearly every introduced piece that was recognised.

On stage Iris had a large range of instruments and danced throughout most of
the show. Edgar and Jerome in the centre and guitarist to the right. There
were a lot of crew on and at the back of the stage helping and videoing the
whole show.


With no introduction the music started like the Polish Bridge show. The set
list was something similar with Dream Mixes 3 woven in. It was like the group
had read a lot of your message and played most of what you wanted. As a show
there was never a dull moment. It was one long set with about 4 encores. 

High points were a remix of Tangram
The fans really liked Love on a Real Train. In parts it had an almost
techno-beat.
Ricochet was given new treatment.
There was a remix of Kiev Mission
The version of Thru metamorphic rocks was that good people wre talking about it
for ages.
There was an Edgar / Jerome keyboard duo. It was like some of the simple
filtered notes on Zeit.
There was a beautiful bridge, I don't think it is named. Was it about track 4
on Tournado? One of my favorites. Overall there weren't many new bridges. 
There was new music woven in. 
There was a well thought out drum / bongo solo from Iris. During this Edgar
sat arms crossed just watching.
At some stage Iris had some GLOWING drum sticks.
What some of you had been demanding happened. Edgar played guitar. I think
it was that heavy number from 220 Volt Live. 

After the encores Edgar greeted the London audience, introduced the band and
said words to the effect that if the countries of the world permit, they would
be back next year. (meaning no war) I remember he specifically mentioned
Russia and the USA.

The show ended, the fans left peacefully. We had an inter city train to
catch. Even though we just missed an earlier train the train staff were kind
enough to stop it and allow us and others to get on. Usually that would never
be allowed.

The merchandise.
There was an enormous queue for this. On sale - TangGo, Astoria special CD
£5, Ibox, Inferno, The Keep £20, some others and 12' vinyls. I can't remember
them all. I got The Keep to see what the fuss is all about and an Astroia CD
which refers to Dream Mixes 4. Not played them yet.

As a Greatest Hits Show it was received really well. It was a successful
event. I think you would have liked it. My wish list - next time, TD
please play the same venue and does anyone have a tape I can hear?

For those organising the trees - we talked to a lot of fans who are likely to
join this list in the very near future and support the idea of spreading the
tree shows and stamping out bootlegs. They will probably and to join the
network if you can add them on. 

David 
fozziebear


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From: 


'fozziebear' <fozziebear.beehive@b...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  8:23
am
Subject:  Atoria


I forgot to say that for one of the encores I phoned my family on my mobile and
they got to hear part of the show as well. They thought that the quality was
really good.

May be next time a network of mobile callers could be arranged to people who
can't attend a show so they can hear some of it real time!

David 


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<MESSAGE index="39024">
From: 


'colin anderson' <colin_anderson@i...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  9:37
am
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Digest Number 1688


The early reports sound promising - keep the them coming with loads of
details, especially anything on whether the show was videoed.......


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<MESSAGE index="39025">
From: 


'Alan Miller' <alan-miller@e...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  10:50
am
Subject:  Astoria - Show Report


Firstly I would like to dedicate this gig report to Joe, without whom we
probably would not have this excellent forum and for me, personally, life
would be different.

Wrong Day? Wrong Place?
London on Saturday saw the largest demonstration that this country has ever
experienced with over 500,000 people gathering in the centre of the city.
There were 2 starting points for the marchers, 1 at the south of the city
and 1 at the north - just yards from the Astoria. Roads are blocked, public
transport restricted, police everywhere and just rivers of people waving
flags and placards.

The Jack Horner Club
From this list, the determined ones and those without tight travelling
schedules managed to find their way to the Jack Horner pub. To avoid the
problem of not mentioning someone I will not attempt to list those that were
there - you know who you are and you were there, thank you for your company
one and all (I expect the photos will be up on a web site near you soon).
Soon after 5pm the 'clubbers' made their way to the Astoria on a cold but
dry night having to walk through the rubbish left by the earlier hoards of
demonstrators. The queue for the doors was already pass the length of the
theatre when we joined it and it continued later up around Soho Square.

Show Time
The Astoria is a little smaller than Shepherds Bush Empire and I would
estimate there were 1,500 people in attendance so it was crowded but not
packed - just right. The 2 merchandising stands were doing a roaring trade.
On sale besides the T-shirts and current TD releases was the Special Release
CD for the Astoria - limited edition (1,000 all sold on the night) - only
£5. As expected copies of the World Tour 1997 Limited Edition (£5), The Keep
(£20) and Sony Topping Out (£20) were on sale. I dare anyone on this list to
say that the fans were being exploited at these prices - many thanks Martin
at TDI (or is it now TDP - see single for clue)!!

The band Edgar, Jerome, Zlatko ( with shaven head!!) and the gorgeous Iris
started with the now very familiar set of favourites (déjà vu 2001 SBE) - I
leave it to others to post the play list. This was followed by the remixes
of From Kiev with Love, Gate of Saturn and Meta Morph Magic, I'll leave the
critical review of the music to someone else..personally I liked them.

The band went of stage for a short time..Encore, encore. The band return
except for Edgar!!!! Out of the dark the man himself takes centre stage with
guitar in hand - the crowd loved it, I think Edgar loved it (if his
expression was anything to go by) and his guitar sang to us. More encores
(sans Edgar's guitar) but what would be the final number..in true Zlatko
style it was..Back in the USSR.

The light show was good given that it was an one night stand and that
another band (Erasure) was starting right afterwards, the sound..well for me
the bass was too much..the floor vibrated at times but I left with a big
smile on my face.

The End
Edgar told us that (governments permitting) he will be back next year.let's
all hope so.
This concert could not have been staged for commercial reasons - given the
size of the venue and the costs of putting it on. Could it be that Edgar
does these shows for his and our pleasure..maybe ;-)

Alan

Dream on...........


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<MESSAGE index="39026">
From: 


'Alan Miller' <alan-miller@e...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  10:54
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Digest Number 1688


Sorry Colin, I didn't see any 'offical' videoing.....;-) wink, wink, say no
more.....

Alan

----- Original Message -----
From: 'colin anderson' <colin_anderson@i...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 9:37 AM
Subject: RE: [tadream] Digest Number 1688


> The early reports sound promising - keep the them coming with loads of
> details, especially anything on whether the show was videoed.......
>
>
>
>
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From: 


'Hilary Wright <hilary.wright@N...>' <hilary.wright@N...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  10:51
am
Subject:  Re: Astoria - Show Report


It sounds like it was fantastic. 

What a day! 

The peace march!
England beats France in the 6 nations!
TD concert!

I wish I could have been there....

Hilary


--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Alan Miller' <alan-miller@e...> wrote:
> Firstly I would like to dedicate this gig report to Joe, without whom we
> probably would not have this excellent forum and for me, personally,
life
> would be different.
> 
> Wrong Day? Wrong Place?
> London on Saturday saw the largest demonstration that this country
has ever
> experienced with over 500,000 people gathering in the centre of the
city.
> There were 2 starting points for the marchers, 1 at the south of the
city
> and 1 at the north - just yards from the Astoria. Roads are blocked,
public
> transport restricted, police everywhere and just rivers of people waving
> flags and placards.
> 
> The Jack Horner Club
> From this list, the determined ones and those without tight travelling
> schedules managed to find their way to the Jack Horner pub. To avoid the
> problem of not mentioning someone I will not attempt to list those
that were
> there - you know who you are and you were there, thank you for your
company
> one and all (I expect the photos will be up on a web site near you
soon).
> Soon after 5pm the 'clubbers' made their way to the Astoria on a
cold but
> dry night having to walk through the rubbish left by the earlier
hoards of
> demonstrators. The queue for the doors was already pass the length
of the
> theatre when we joined it and it continued later up around Soho Square.
> 
> Show Time
> The Astoria is a little smaller than Shepherds Bush Empire and I would
> estimate there were 1,500 people in attendance so it was crowded but not
> packed - just right. The 2 merchandising stands were doing a roaring
trade.
> On sale besides the T-shirts and current TD releases was the Special
Release
> CD for the Astoria - limited edition (1,000 all sold on the night) -
only
> £5. As expected copies of the World Tour 1997 Limited Edition (£5),
The Keep
> (£20) and Sony Topping Out (£20) were on sale. I dare anyone on this
list to
> say that the fans were being exploited at these prices - many thanks
Martin
> at TDI (or is it now TDP - see single for clue)!!
> 
> The band Edgar, Jerome, Zlatko ( with shaven head!!) and the
gorgeous Iris
> started with the now very familiar set of favourites (déjà vu 2001
SBE) - I
> leave it to others to post the play list. This was followed by the
remixes
> of From Kiev with Love, Gate of Saturn and Meta Morph Magic, I'll
leave the
> critical review of the music to someone else..personally I liked them.
> 
> The band went of stage for a short time..Encore, encore. The band return
> except for Edgar!!!! Out of the dark the man himself takes centre
stage with
> guitar in hand - the crowd loved it, I think Edgar loved it (if his
> expression was anything to go by) and his guitar sang to us. More
encores
> (sans Edgar's guitar) but what would be the final number..in true Zlatko
> style it was..Back in the USSR.
> 
> The light show was good given that it was an one night stand and that
> another band (Erasure) was starting right afterwards, the
sound..well for me
> the bass was too much..the floor vibrated at times but I left with a big
> smile on my face.
> 
> The End
> Edgar told us that (governments permitting) he will be back next
year.let's
> all hope so.
> This concert could not have been staged for commercial reasons -
given the
> size of the venue and the costs of putting it on. Could it be that Edgar
> does these shows for his and our pleasure..maybe ;-)
> 
> Alan
> 
> Dream on...........


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<MESSAGE index="39028">
From: 


'Alan Miller' <alan-miller@e...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  11:00
am
Subject:  Question.....


When was the last ime that Edgar played a guitar in public?......my memory is
not that good, I thouight '92 but now I think that was when Zlatko first
started to tour with TD.....help needed.

Alan 


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<MESSAGE index="39029">
From: 
'Matthew Stringer' <qube@f...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  11:48
am
Subject:  Quick Review


Good concert, Jerome and Ed didn't play a thing (as usual), but Ed did 
do a cracking version of Hamlet.

The first half of the show was a kind of a cut-n-paste remix of the old
stuff (Kiew Mission, Hyperboria, Zeit, Force Majeur to name but a few),
I assume that this is Dream Mixes 4.

Although I enjoyed this section I feel that the subtleties which made
the original tracks so good were lost.

2nd half was great, kicked off with Hamlet and there was a great version
of Beach theme, Towards an Evening Star etc.

There was even a fun version of The Beatles' Back in the USSR which let
the 
Z Man let rip on the guitar!

The little lady on the drums was clearly enjoying herself too!

The crowd was in good spirits.

I got stuck in traffic and didn't get there until 7:15 so I missed the
start and didn't get to meet the guys at the pub :(

Also parked the car in what I thought was a parking space but it turned
out to be for diplomatic permits only so I came out to a nice yellow
clamp on my front wheel!

£85 later and I was on my way home.

Ouch.

Take care,

M@


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<MESSAGE index="39030">
From: 


'Colin Neal <Colin_Neal@m...>' <Colin_Neal@m...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  12:19
am
Subject:  Astoria


Good gig - especially when Edgar played guitar

Why was I the only one dancing?

Who was the drummer and what's her phone number?

Col.


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<MESSAGE index="39031">
From: 


'ajking106 <ajking106@a...>' <ajking106@a...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 15, 2003  11:06
pm
Subject:  Astoria gig


After a slow start, it was an excellent gig guys, especially the new 
stuff from dream mixes 4 and the new CD Mota Atma and the legend 
leftover track. One of the best I've seen from TD in a long while. It 
was even better to see Edgar back where he belongs... playing guitar 
(he got the biggest cheer of the night!!).
BTW did Jerome have serious equipment problems?

:)


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<MESSAGE index="39032">
From: 


'hankphar <hankph@m...>' <hankph@m...> 
Date:  Sat Feb 15, 2003  9:11
pm
Subject:  Dreamwatcher's Tales 3


Can anyone tell me where we can the details
or art for these discs?

THANKS!
Hank


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<MESSAGE index="39033">
From: 


'Michael A Jean' <michaeljean@e...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  12:59
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Question.....


I believe EF played guitar on at least one tune on the 92 tour. HAmlet
perhaps?

MJ

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan Miller [mailto:alan-miller@e...]
> Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 6:00 AM
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [tadream] Question.....
>
>
> When was the last ime that Edgar played a guitar in
> public?......my memory is not that good, I thouight '92 but now I
> think that was when Zlatko first started to tour with TD.....help needed.
>
> Alan
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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<MESSAGE index="39034">
From: 


Robert Grabowsky <hghlndr@t...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  1:08
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Astoria first impressions


Fozzie,
Just a couple of questions for you.


>What some of you had been demanding happened. Edgar played guitar. I
think it was that heavy number from 220 Volt Live. 

You mean their cover of the song 'Purple Haze'?

Are you that young that you do not know who Jimi Hendrix is? 
Or are you musical tastes that limited?

Now a question for the rest of the group:

If we have people who don't know one of the greatest guitar players
ever, how much trouble is the world really in, musically?

THE HIGHLANDER


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From: 


'Philippe Gibone' <pgibone@h...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  11:31
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Astoria - Show Report


It sounds like it was fantastic.

What a day!

The peace march!
France Scored 3 tries England only 1 try in the 6 nations! ;-)
TD concert!

I wish I could have been there....

Philippe


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<MESSAGE index="39036">
From: 


'Kevin Ball' <KevinBall@T...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  1:46
pm
Subject:  Astoria - Feb 15th, 2003


For my 11th Tangerine Dream concert I left home just after 3 o’clock and
drove to my work’s car park at Blackfriars. A quick tube journey and I was
outside the Astoria Theatre at around 4.30pm. I entered to purchase my
ticket for the evening’s event but was told that tickets would not be on
sale until 6 o’clock. Strange! I had the money, the box office was open –
why cause yet another queue later on?

Off to the Jack Horner then. Due to the cold climate there was a lack of
tee-shirts with TD logos on display but an obvious looking gathering in one
corner looked positive. I bought a beer, and asked another guy at the bar if
this indeed was the TD gathering. Confirmation received I introduced myself
to Dave Gore. Just over an hour later, and after spending a hugely enjoyable
time discussing Tangerine Dream and many other artists and topics, Dave and
I decided to make the short walk to the Astoria.

The Astoria is my type of venue. I like the stand-up gig with the bar’s
close by. I’d previously seen Camel there in 2000 and of course Chris Franke
in October 1991. No queuing to get my ticket (£25.00 on the door – so much
for saving the booking fee!), Dave and I entered and joined the long queue
for merchandise. I picked up Tang-go, The Melrose Years, Sony Center and the
new Astoria CD. Seven CD’s for £65.00 – good value in my opinion.

Despite the long queue, there was a good atmosphere and I was really looking
forward to the show. The band started at about 18:50, earlier than
advertised, but the venue seemed full already with people obviously taking
note of the band’s request to arrive early.

I have to say that musically I thoroughly enjoyed the show. It’s good to
hear the TD sound in a room full of appreciative listeners. I actually found
the vibrating floor, due to the heavy bass, a buzz – sort of feeling the
music!

My only complaint is that I still can’t tell anymore if the majority of the
concert is actually live! Edgar and Jerome’s hands hardly move and the music
is studio perfect. Zlatco (where’s all my hair gone) for most of the time
just stands there playing nothing. I don’t see why he cannot leave the stage
and return for the tracks where he has a part to play – and then when he is
playing ‘light’ him up so we can fully appreciate his contribution.
Additionally, is that or is that not a spanish guitar in ‘Firetongues’ (or
is it ‘Catwalk’)? If so why then did Zlatco play both guitar parts with the
same guitar!

Iris. Lovely and very energetic – but as with SBE in 2001, she doesn't seem
to add anything majorly noticeable to the overall ‘live’ sound of the band.
The electronic percussion beats out it's mesmerising tunes and it is
therefore very hard to pick up the extra percussion sounds – which must be
there as Iris is active all of the time. Also, as I said the music is almost
studio quality and none of the tracks were recorded with the assistance of
Iris – so what actually is her contribution? The bongo solo was very nice –
that was live!

So overall then – I very much enjoyed the show. Much better than the last
concert I attended, and yes wasn’t it good to see Edgar play guitar. I said
to Dave during our chat in the Jack Horner that it would be nice to see
that – but unlikely. As always Tangerine Dream are still able to surprise me
after all these years.

Long may they reign!

Kevin.


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<MESSAGE index="39037">
From: 


Jonathan Holt <plantpot_73@y...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  2:16
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Astoria gig and not being there:


It sucked to not be there. I hope they get to N.
America soon.

BUT It is good to see that those who made the
pilgramage to London seemed to enjoy the show! Don't
complain about queueing in -1c temps: I had to run
some errands last night and it was -22c. Bits of me
are still frozen and there was no TD at the end of it!
And a full track-listing would be good, if anyone
feels up to it.

Also, to Robert, I think the track that was being
referred to was 'Hamlet' not 'Purple Haze', so you
don't need to despair over the imminent decline of
Western Civilisation just yet.
We have George W. Bush and MTV to capably handle that
job ;-)

Jonnyboy


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From: 


'fozziebear' <fozziebear.beehive@b...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  2:29
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Astoria first impressions


Robert Grabowsky said


> Fozzie,
> Just a couple of questions for you.
>
>
> >What some of you had been demanding happened. Edgar played guitar. I
> think it was that heavy number from 220 Volt Live.
>
> You mean their cover of the song 'Purple Haze'?
>
> Are you that young that you do not know who Jimi Hendrix is?
> Or are you musical tastes that limited?

You obviously haven't read my posts in the past. I don't remember all of
the track names. It was not Purple Haze. As for young I was 15 when I
saw TD in 78 and I have some JH in my collection. Did you mean to be so
blunt about musical tastes?

David


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<MESSAGE index="39039">
From: 


'David Wakefield' <yahoo@b...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  3:48
pm
Subject:  Couln't find the pub


Well only my second TD concert and it was well worth it.
Watching EF play guitar, having that bass so deep the end of
my nose was vibrating and having them 'play' some of my favorite 
tracks. Have to agree with other peoples view on exactly what was
being played and what was recorded though.

The best track was the last one, anybody tell me what it was please?


And as for meeting in the Jack Horner, forgot the instructions but never
mind says I, I will ask for directions. Nobody had heard of it and even my
GPS couldn't find it. So sorry for not getting there. But my wife and I
ended
up right at the front of the queue, so I got my copies of The Keep, Sony
Centre
and the Astoria release (which I am listening to now). Didn't realize it is
limited to 1000 and I have copies 673 and 692.


Later Dave W

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<MESSAGE index="39040">
From: 


'mad4rock75 <toby@b...>' <toby@b...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  4:08
pm
Subject:  Another Astoria view


Due to family aggravations I was late getting in to London, but on my 
way past the Astoria to find the Jack Horner, I noticed that the 
queue was already heading back down the road. As I hoped to get some 
merchandise and then exchange some of the programme CD's I joined the 
queue and missed the gathering, which was a pity.

Musically, I enjoyed the bulk of it, but think the composition of Set 
1 was not as good as 76 - 86 period TD as it felt more like bits 
cobbled together than a progressive composition. Although each part 
in itself was good, the flow wasn't so good. The strong points of 
Ricochet/ Logos/ White Eagle/ Poland imo are often the openings and 
the progression where the theme develops - perhaps more shorter 
pieces would have worked better ? I'm sure Edgar still has the 
creativity to work this out. The encores were pretty good though and 
it was great to see Edgar on guitar again. 

One piece of about 2 hours ? Edgar laughed at one point and looked at 
his watch, was he trying to outwit anyone taping the show ? Did 
anyone succeed in getting a recording with a break at a suitable 
point (sorry Iris, but the percussion solo would be a good fade out/ 
in).

Lots of rhythm and quite a few of us were shuffling ('dancing' would 
be technically inaccurate in most cases) - sometimes the rhythm was 
so high in the mix that any subtleties were lost. I enjoy the Dream 
Mixes albums, but I also like the more pastoral/ melodic side of TD's 
work - it would be great if they could get more of that feel live 
again. It looks like the majority of Edgar and Jerome's contribution 
was pre-arranged, thank goodness for Zlatko who seemed to add an edge 
to the parts he contributed to.

Edgar seemed to enjoy himself - it was obvious that the fans still 
think he's great. I was very pleased to meet TDI's Martin K before 
the show - we know he makes a valued contribution to this list, and 
he's a really nice guy. On the whole, a good evening, a good venue, 
great people - I look forward to next year. 

One note to TDI though. Several fans in the queue who are not members 
of this group said they were lucky to spot adverts of the show and 
were surprised that the TDI site didn't make a bigger feature of 
upcoming gigs.

Toby


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<MESSAGE index="39041">
From: 
Klaus Beschorner <klaus@c...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  4:19
pm
Subject:  Homepage update


Dear all,

I have updated my homepage at http://www.caby.de

Besides general updates and typo corrections, here's what's new:

- different order of the links on the start page, more emphasis on TD

- re-organised the 'Music' page and some of the lists to make
it clearer what I offer and what I want.

- updated mainlist.txt and newstuff.txt for the concert collectors

- and an updated remcorr.txt, essential reading for any
serious concert collector

I am sure some of you came home from the concert with some
extra collectable material. I wasn't there, so NOW is the
time to offer something for one of the goodies on my
swaplist!

have fun,
klaus


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<MESSAGE index="39042">
From: 


'leethake <leethake@y...>' <leethake@y...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  3:49
pm
Subject:  Astoria


Well they did it again another fine show.

After playing the last few gigs at Shepard's Bush Empire the gang 
moved to the Astoria and what a strange place that is. After queuing 
for a short while to buy a copy of the keep £20 what a good deal
and 
the Astoria EP for £5.00 which was good I headed to the upstairs
what 
a shock it looked like a burger bar with all the chairs and tables so 
I decided to go downstairs a first for me could I stand through the 
hole concert having been to them all in the uk since 1982 at the 
dominion I had always sat but boy was it good. The floor vibrated the 
chest thump to the beats. The set was good and the encores the best 
the last track played was cool and I liked that a lot hope it comes 
on a CD sometime. No doubt people will pick holes in the way they 
played and the way it sounded but hey why do you keep going to the 
concerts if you don't like the way they play. I am looking
forward to 
the 2004 gig and can't wait


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From: 


'rockyrobin_99 <rockyrobin_99@y...>' <rockyrobin_99@y...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  2:20
pm
Subject:  Re: Astoria


--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Colin Neal <Colin_Neal@m...>' 
<Colin_Neal@m...> wrote:
>
> Good gig - especially when Edgar played guitar

> Why was I the only one dancing?

You were not alone buddy!! 

> Who was the drummer and what's her phone number?

mm.. great view from the balcony! (excuse the smut)

robin


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<MESSAGE index="39044">
From: 


'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  4:40
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Astoria gig and not being there:


>Also, to Robert, I think the track that was being
>referred to was 'Hamlet' not 'Purple Haze', so you
>don't need to despair over the imminent decline of
>Western Civilisation just yet.
>We have George W. Bush and MTV to capably handle that
>job ;-)
>
>Jonnyboy


I don't like George W nor MTV, but I still have never heard Jimi Hendrix 
(besides the obvious cover version) during my 18-year lifespan... is this 
contradictional or not?

-Astoria content: So the bonus CD has 3 tracks from Dream Mixes 4 - if 
there's Kiew Mission and Love On A Real Train, what's the 3rd one?

John Vertical

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<MESSAGE index="39045">
From: 


'Chris Owen' <chris@o...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  1:31
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Astoria - Feb 15th, 2003


Full track listing.....

Main Set (approx 2hr 8mins)

The Spirit Of The Czar

Warsaw In The Sun
Comet's Figure Head
Force Majeure
Going West
Lamb With Radar Eyes
The Comfort Zone
'Tournado' Bridge
Firetongues
Prime Time
Iris Percussion Solo
New Tangram Remix (Dream Mixes 4?)
New Track (Mota Atma?)
Mothers Of Rain
New Track (Ricochet samples - Dream Mixes 4?)
New Love On A Real Train Remix (Dream Mixes 4?)
From Kiev With Love (Remix Of Kiew Mission, Dream Mixes 4)
Meta Morph Magic (Remix Of Thru Metamorphic Rocks, Dream Mixes 4)

Encores

Hamlet (with Edgar and Zlatco on guitar)
Time Square (shortened version of Dream Mixes 2 version)
Beach Scene/Theme
Towards The Evening Star (Goblins Club version)
Legend Leftover (last track from 1986 concerts main set)
New Track (Mota Atma?)


----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Ball <KevinBall@T...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: <ElectronicMusic@yahoogroups.com>; <artofvision@yahoogroups.com>;
<goblinsclub@yahoogroups.com>; <tangerinedream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 5:46 AM
Subject: [tadream] Astoria - Feb 15th, 2003


> For my 11th Tangerine Dream concert I left home just after 3 o'clock and
> drove to my work's car park at Blackfriars. A quick tube journey and I was
> outside the Astoria Theatre at around 4.30pm. I entered to purchase my
> ticket for the evening's event but was told that tickets would not be on
> sale until 6 o'clock. Strange! I had the money, the box office was open -
> why cause yet another queue later on?
>
> Off to the Jack Horner then. Due to the cold climate there was a lack of
> tee-shirts with TD logos on display but an obvious looking gathering in
one
> corner looked positive. I bought a beer, and asked another guy at the bar
if
> this indeed was the TD gathering. Confirmation received I introduced
myself
> to Dave Gore. Just over an hour later, and after spending a hugely
enjoyable
> time discussing Tangerine Dream and many other artists and topics, Dave
and
> I decided to make the short walk to the Astoria.
>
> The Astoria is my type of venue. I like the stand-up gig with the bar's
> close by. I'd previously seen Camel there in 2000 and of course Chris
Franke
> in October 1991. No queuing to get my ticket (£25.00 on the door - so much
> for saving the booking fee!), Dave and I entered and joined the long queue
> for merchandise. I picked up Tang-go, The Melrose Years, Sony Center and
the
> new Astoria CD. Seven CD's for £65.00 - good value in my opinion.
>
> Despite the long queue, there was a good atmosphere and I was really
looking
> forward to the show. The band started at about 18:50, earlier than
> advertised, but the venue seemed full already with people obviously taking
> note of the band's request to arrive early.
>
> I have to say that musically I thoroughly enjoyed the show. It's good to
> hear the TD sound in a room full of appreciative listeners. I actually
found
> the vibrating floor, due to the heavy bass, a buzz - sort of feeling the
> music!
>
> My only complaint is that I still can't tell anymore if the majority of
the
> concert is actually live! Edgar and Jerome's hands hardly move and the
music
> is studio perfect. Zlatco (where's all my hair gone) for most of the time
> just stands there playing nothing. I don't see why he cannot leave the
stage
> and return for the tracks where he has a part to play - and then when he
is
> playing 'light' him up so we can fully appreciate his contribution.
> Additionally, is that or is that not a spanish guitar in 'Firetongues' (or
> is it 'Catwalk')? If so why then did Zlatco play both guitar parts with
the
> same guitar!
>
> Iris. Lovely and very energetic - but as with SBE in 2001, she doesn't
seem
> to add anything majorly noticeable to the overall 'live' sound of the
band.
> The electronic percussion beats out it's mesmerising tunes and it is
> therefore very hard to pick up the extra percussion sounds - which must be
> there as Iris is active all of the time. Also, as I said the music is
almost
> studio quality and none of the tracks were recorded with the assistance of
> Iris - so what actually is her contribution? The bongo solo was very
nice -
> that was live!
>
> So overall then - I very much enjoyed the show. Much better than the last
> concert I attended, and yes wasn't it good to see Edgar play guitar. I
said
> to Dave during our chat in the Jack Horner that it would be nice to see
> that - but unlikely. As always Tangerine Dream are still able to surprise
me
> after all these years.
>
> Long may they reign!
>
> Kevin.
>
>
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<MESSAGE index="39046">
From: 


'Chris Owen' <chris@o...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  1:42
am
Subject:  Astoria CD


The Astoria CD has three tracks -

1. 'From Kiev With Love'

This is a Dream Mixes version of 'Kiew Mission' and according to the cover
will be on Dream Mixes 4

2. 'Gate Of Saturn'

This is a new track and according to the cover will be included on TD's new
album 'Mota Atma'

3. 'Meta Morph Magic'

This is a Dream Mixes version of 'Thru Metamorphic Rocks' and according to
the cover will be on Dream Mixes 4

Mine is # 534/1000...did anyone get # 1/1000? Tracks 1 and 3 were played
last night, though track 2 wasn't.

There were some Voiceprint postcards at the merchandise stall advertising
TD's new studio album 'Mota Atma', including its cover art. The album was
not available to buy though.

- Chris

PS - Full Astoria Track listing to follow.....


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<MESSAGE index="39047">
From: 


Jonathan Holt <plantpot_73@y...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  6:21
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Astoria gig and not being there:


No - all this means is that you need to buy a copy of
'Electric Ladyland' ASAP 
:-) 

Jonnyboy


> I don't like George W nor MTV, but I still have
> never heard Jimi Hendrix 
> (besides the obvious cover version) during my
> 18-year lifespan... is this 
> contradictional or not?
> John Vertical
> 
>
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<MESSAGE index="39048">
From: 
'Matthew Stringer' <qube@f...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  6:24
pm
Subject:  Quick Review


Good concert, Jerome and Ed didn't play a thing (as usual), but Ed did 
do a cracking version of Hamlet.

The first half of the show was a kind of a cut-n-paste remix of the old
stuff (Kiew Mission, Hyperboria, Zeit, Force Majeur to name but a few),
I assume that this is Dream Mixes 4.

Although I enjoyed this section I feel that the subtleties which made
the original tracks so good were lost.

2nd half was great, kicked off with Hamlet and there was a great version
of Beach theme, Towards an Evening Star etc.

There was even a fun version of The Beatles' Back in the USSR which let
the 
Z Man let rip on the guitar!

The little lady on the drums was clearly enjoying herself too!

The crowd was in good spirits.

I got stuck in traffic and didn't get there until 7:15 so I missed the
start and didn't get to meet the guys at the pub :(

Also parked the car in what I thought was a parking space but it turned
out to be for diplomatic permits only so I came out to a nice yellow
clamp on my front wheel!

£85 later and I was on my way home.

Ouch.

Take care,

M@


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<MESSAGE index="39049">
From: 
'Matthew Stringer' <qube@f...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  6:29
pm
Subject:  aSTORIA


Someone asked what the last track was...


The last track was a cover of The Beatle's Back in the USSR.


...........given the Z-Man treatment.


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<MESSAGE index="39050">
From: 


'Colin Jouxson <convention24@y...>' <convention24@y...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  6:41
pm
Subject:  Astoria Concert 15th Feb


I left home on a freezing cold morning at 6.15 am,got the train into 
Cardiff Central and boarded the 7.30am coach to London,arrived at 
Victoria station 10.30am after a trouble free journey.After deciding 
to walk to Charring Cross for my Hotel,i was met by an endless sea of 
peace marchers,after a struggle managed to get to my hotel in Villier 
street at 12.15pm,people were still going past when i emerged 2 hours 
later.It was off to the Jack Horner next where i met all the Usual 
Suspects LOL Heiko H,Heiko N,Alan Miller,Vic Rek,Joe Moore,Gary 
Jenkins,Paul Fellows,Duncan Mckee,Stephen Manship(aka Billy the Fish)
and many more,after a very enjoyable 2 hours of guzzling it was off 
to the Astoria.After cueing for some 50 minutes we were allowed in 
smack on 6pm,first job was to get some ale which was Grolsch at a 
crazy 3pounds 30pence a can,i was dull enough to buy 4.
6-45 pm the curtains part and here they are EF JF Zlatko without any 
hair,and Iris whom over the next three hours were to give us an 
absolute treat,without harping on to long about every track,the 
highlights of the evening for me were the sound of MOTHERS OF 
RAIN,Edgars brilliant guitar work on HAMLET,The Superb re-Workings of
LOVE ON A REAL TRAIN and THRU METARMORPHIC ROCKS and the sheer joy of 
Iris,s WONDERFUL bum cheeks shaking to the percussive rhythm,this 
really was a great evenings entertainment,and im really looking 
forward to Mota Atma and dream mixes 4,at the moment my ears are 
buzzing from the thumping bass of the concertbut boy it was worth it.
Great to see EF(Jimmy Saville)and JF smiling throughout the evening 
but im sure Jerome had a few minor equipment problems(ANYONE ELSE 
NOTICE?)all in all i think this evening was a great success,and 
sincerely hope Edgars mention of a possible visit next year will 
happen.
After the gig i snapped up 2 leftover copies of the Keep TDI versions 
for a very generous price,and i must state that all the merchandise 
was priced very generously by TDI must thank MK for that,and then it 
was off to the Pub for some more beers before myself and Duncan Mckee 
popped into the local Mcdonalds for some very much needed food before 
the long hike through crowds of night-clubbers to our hotel rooms in 
Charring Cross.
I really would like to thank all the very nice people i met at the 
concert,it really was a pleaure meeting you all,special mention to 
Gary Jenkins and Colin(his uncle) thanks for the company,shame you 
had to go straight after the gig.Roll on next time everyone.
Tangerine Dream-Always have and always will be my NUMBER1.


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<MESSAGE index="39051">
From: 


'Gary Jenkins <quinoa@v...>' <quinoa@v...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  7:11
pm
Subject:  Astoria


Thanks Colin for your last post couldn't have put it better myself,It 
was great to meet and just be in the presence of the real TD fans in 
the Jack Horner, two hours well spent with people who appreciate TD 
as they are now,not like certain people from another Yahoo group 
which I have just been reading.
The gig itself I felt was much better than the SBE there seemed to be 
better audience reaction, I was fortunate to be right at the front 
with Colin nearly in touching distance of Zlato a great experience 
cannot wait til next year.

Cheers Gary


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<MESSAGE index="39052">
From: 


'David Wakefield' <yahoo@b...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  8:12
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] aSTORIA


Is it available on CD?

-------Original Message-------

From: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 16, 2003 18:30:02
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] aSTORIA

Someone asked what the last track was...


The last track was a cover of The Beatle's Back in the USSR.


............given the Z-Man treatment.


M@


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From: 


'David Wakefield' <yahoo@b...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  8:24
pm
Subject:  That didn't take long


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI
dll?ViewItem&item=2508977578&category=9991


and there are only a 1000 not 1600

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From: 


<strat95@b...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  9:35
pm
Subject:  Digital Soundtrack Collection


Just wanted to give out an 'Attaboy!' and a big pat on the back to those
folks that put together the DSC!!!

I just finished putting my set together. Printed out the covers, trays and
CD labels. This is a sharp looking set. Listened to the first few discs as I
worked and the quality is outstanding!!

Thanks to all involved for the hard work!!!

Neal


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<MESSAGE index="39055">
From: 


<strat95@b...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  9:38
pm
Subject:  Tangerine Tree #3


Hello All,

Just a quick question about the artwork for the TT#3. On the artwork page it
lists liner notes coming soon. I have been putting off printing my artwork
in waiting for the liner notes. Any idea when these might be finished and
added to the webpage for download???

Thanks
Neal


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<MESSAGE index="39056">
From: 


'mad4rock75 <toby@b...>' <toby@b...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  10:15
pm
Subject:  Re: aSTORIA contents - USSR


Hopefully, the answer to that is 'Not yet'. We'll have to wait and 
see what appears in TT4 if we are lucky. (Please Heiko !) 

Listening to the Astoria CD now, I get the feeling DM4 and 'Mota 
Atma' are going to be good additions to the collection. Even my 12 
year old son is starting to get in to DM1 now.

Toby

Biggest regret of yesterday - not getting to the pub to meet the 
members of the list, although I did get to talk TD with some other 
guys in the street. Role on 2004 !


--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'David Wakefield' <yahoo@b...> wrote:
> Is it available on CD?
> 
> The last track was a cover of The Beatle's Back in the USSR.
> 
> 
> ............given the Z-Man treatment.
> 
> 
> 
> M@
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<MESSAGE index="39057">
From: 


'gyedid01 <gyedid01@y...>' <gyedid01@y...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  10:46
pm
Subject:  DM4 new versions of classic tracks


Hello all,

Here's a question going out to the folks who were at the Astoria
concert:

Is this latest crop of new mixes of classic TD tracks done in the
style of DM3, being based around samples cut from the originals, or
are they basically brand-new covers, rebuilt from the ground up like
the Encore excerpts from _Tangents_?
If it's the former, I think I'll have to take a pass on DM4, as I was
massively disappointed by DM3.
If it's the latter, though, I think I may well purchase DM4.

cheers,

Gabe


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39058">
From: 


'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  11:26
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Tangerine Tree #3


From: <strat95@b...>

> Just a quick question about the artwork for the TT#3. On the artwork page it
> lists liner notes coming soon. I have been putting off printing my artwork
> in waiting for the liner notes. Any idea when these might be finished and
> added to the webpage for download???


I'll be putting them online for download tomorrow evening with instructions for
printing.


Maff


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39059">
From: 
'Matthew Stringer' <qube@f...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  11:46
pm
Subject:  Shy People


I've Just noticed that Shy People is on UK TV tonight (BBC 12:20).

Not a great film but I love the score.

M@


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39060">
From: 
'Matthew Stringer' <qube@f...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  11:48
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] DM4 new versions of classic tracks


I would say it's DM3 part 2, or similar!

Matthew


-----Original Message-----
From: gyedid01 <gyedid01@y...> [mailto:gyedid01@y...] 
Sent: 16 February 2003 22:46
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] DM4 new versions of classic tracks

Hello all,

Here's a question going out to the folks who were at the Astoria
concert:

Is this latest crop of new mixes of classic TD tracks done in the
style of DM3, being based around samples cut from the originals, or
are they basically brand-new covers, rebuilt from the ground up like
the Encore excerpts from _Tangents_?
If it's the former, I think I'll have to take a pass on DM4, as I was
massively disappointed by DM3.
If it's the latter, though, I think I may well purchase DM4.

cheers,

Gabe


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39061">
From: 
'Matthew Stringer' <qube@f...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  11:55
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Astoria Concert 15th Feb


His PC had a Windows error on it for most of the gig, it was reset by
the engineer that had a look at it but 5 minutes later it was back.

Looking at the set up they had 2 machines; one which had the sequences
on (music, looked like Cubase or Acid) and the one that had the problem
controlled the mix (volume levels).

This is a bit of a guess based on what I could see one the display.


im sure Jerome had a few minor equipment problems(ANYONE ELSE 
NOTICE?)all in all i think this evening was a great success,and 
sincerely hope Edgars mention of a possible visit next year will 
happen.


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39062">
From: 


'gyedid01 <gyedid01@y...>' <gyedid01@y...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  1:05
am
Subject:  Re: DM4 new versions of classic tracks


--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Matthew Stringer' <qube@f...> wrote:
> I would say it's DM3 part 2, or similar!
> 
> Matthew
> 
Anything to persuade me to buy the album, eh?
Looks like I'll be saving a few bucks this time around.

thanks,

Gabe


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39063">
From: 


Chris Richards <kohntarkosz@y...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  2:15
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Digest Number 1689


<<No - all this means is that you need to buy a 
copy of 'Electric Ladyland' ASAP :-) >>

To say nothing of Are You Experienced?, Axis:
Bold As Love and Band Of Gypsies. 


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39064">
From: 


Robert Grabowsky <hghlndr@t...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  4:28
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Astoria first impressions


David,
I am sorry if I stomped on your musical tastes. I did not mean to but
I have run across people who are very closed minded when it comes to music.
For example, someone will only listen to TD or electronic music and that is
it.
When you said a heavy song I thought Purple Haze, I guess I have to
give Hamlet a listen again. I figured Purple Haze was like Star Wars in the
fact that everyone( or at least almost everyone) has seen it. (This would
be before we got introduced to the latest Sar Wars Trilogy) But back in
1990 or 1991 I met a girl who had never seen Star Wars and it really blew
me away. She was 16 or 17 at the time.

THE HIGHLANDER

>You obviously haven't read my posts in the past. I don't remember all of
>the track names. It was not Purple Haze. As for young I was 15 when I
>saw TD in 78 and I have some JH in my collection. Did you mean to be so
>blunt about musical tastes?


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39065">
From: 


'Philippe Gibone' <pgibone@h...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  5:15
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Astoria gig and not being there:


>John Vertical said

>I don't like George W nor MTV, but I still have never heard Jimi Hendrix 
>(besides the obvious cover version) during my 18-year lifespan... is this 
>contradictional or not?

Not really contradictional. I would say you're not 'decline of
Western Civilisation'-proof

Philippe ;-)


just yet.
> >We have George W. Bush and MTV to capably handle that
> >job ;-)
> >
> >Jonnyboy
>
>
>
>-Astoria content: So the bonus CD has 3 tracks from Dream Mixes 4 - if
>there's Kiew Mission and Love On A Real Train, what's the 3rd one?
>
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<MESSAGE index="39066">
From: 


Armin Theissen <Armin.Theissen@s...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  10:24
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Question.....


He played Hamlet on the SBE concert in November 96. Been there
and remember very well.

armin

Michael A Jean wrote:

> I believe EF played guitar on at least one tune on the 92 tour. HAmlet
> perhaps?
> 
> MJ
> 
> 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Alan Miller [mailto:alan-miller@e...]
>>Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 6:00 AM
>>To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
>>Subject: [tadream] Question.....
>>
>>
>>When was the last ime that Edgar played a guitar in
>>public?......my memory is not that good, I thouight '92 but now I
>>think that was when Zlatko first started to tour with TD.....help needed.
>>
>>Alan
>>
>>
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<MESSAGE index="39067">
From: 


Rainer Rutka <rainer@k...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  11:39
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Astoria Concert 15th Feb


On Sun, 16 Feb 2003, Colin Jouxson <convention24@y...> wrote:

> ..
> peace marchers,after a struggle managed to get to my hotel in Villier 
> street at 12.15pm,people were still going past when i emerged 2 hours 
Funny! I was in the same hotel :-) 
Rainer
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<YAHOOARCHIVE groupname="tadream">
<MESSAGE index="39068">
From: 
Shez <shez@a...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  11:13
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] That didn't take long


please don't bid on this, one must not encourage these people for
doing this kind of crappy business.


On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 20:24:55 +0000 (GMT Standard Time), you wrote:

>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI
>dll?ViewItem&item=2508977578&category=9991
>
>
>and there are only a 1000 not 1600
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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<MESSAGE index="39069">
From: 


'seeker_uk2 <seeker_uk@e...>' <seeker_uk@e...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  10:04
pm
Subject:  Re: Digest Number 1688


Alan,

there was some videoing. There was a camcorder set up as you walked 
into the Astoria and there was someone bimbling about backstage for 
all of the set filming. An unusual angle indeed.....

Seeker


--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Alan Miller' <alan-miller@e...> 
wrote:
> Sorry Colin, I didn't see any 'offical' videoing.....;-) wink, 
wink, say no
> more.....
> 
> Alan


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39070">
From: 


'seeker_uk2 <seeker_uk@e...>' <seeker_uk@e...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  9:59
pm
Subject:  More Astoria


Well that was TD gig #3 for me (before that Ipswich '86, SBE '02 
before this). I'd vowed to not go after SBE, the miming was a great 
disappointment but being a fan of 20 years now I weakened and so 
me 'n' my other half were there.

And the concert? Glad you asked.

Well set 1 was too much like '02 but the second half was much better, 
although I did fell like I had to wait for 90 minutes before the set 
really took off.

High Points:

1. The stonking rework of 'Metamorphic Rocks' (or was it 'Igneous'?).

2. Edgar playing guitar! Does this mean that he's gone through 
another of his 'not-playing' phases?

3. The 'Zeit' re-working. Mast-er-ful.


Low Points:

1. Zlatko MIMING the spanish guitar bit in 'Firetongues'

2. Jerome's PC crashing with no noticable effect - more evidence it's 
all done from hard disk folks........

3. Not getting the ltd edition CD45. WAH!

Just to witter on more about Edgar playing guitar, why did Zlatko 
just stand there like a lemon? In 86 Haslinger whipped one out and 
they both gave it rice for 10 minutes and Paul wasn't as accomplished 
as Edgar.

Never mind, we both enjoyed it and shall go to the '04 gig.

Seeker

P.S. Anyone notice Edgar sat with his foot on the monitor. ROCK 'N' 
F**KING ROLL!


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<MESSAGE index="39071">
From: 


'billythefish01 <mudspanker@y...>' <mudspanker@y...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  12:15
pm
Subject:  Astoria miscellany (long and rambling)


Hi all, 

ARRIVAL
Well French air traffic control let us through in time, and we were 
not shot out of the sky with a surface to air missile.... it was the 
baggage handlers at Gatwick who took forty minutes, coupled with 
the fact that Victoria tube station was closed due to peace 
protesters and there were no cabs or busses due to the gridlock. I 
ran with VERY heavy bags, for nearly a mile before I found a cab 
that could take me to my home, where I dumped my bags and ran back 
to the tube. I made it into the theatre for 7.01 pm, brought two 
Astoria CDs (whilst Warsaw in the Sun was played) and then arrived 
on the balcony (to the left side).

FIRST IMPRESSIONS
Hair. Iris seemed to have all of Zlatko's, and then some (although 
she was blonde). Edgar's seems whiter than ever and had lost 
his 'tache. He reminded me very much of a wizard with his long black 
jacket. Only Jerome looked familiar.

Iris stood (danced and jiggled in fact) to the left, surrounded by 
bongos, tom toms and a large gong at the back. Edgar was next, with 
Jerome to the right, both slightly facing each other. They had two 
equipment stacks each, all containing a PC and various modules. 
There was one that they both had with four or five bright blue 
lights in a row. They also both had two 
keyboards each (which I could not identify... were their names 
deliberately scrubbed out I wonder?) Jerome had a third anonymous 
keyboard to his left, and Edgar had a bright red keyboard to his 
left. I was intrigued by this... was it a Waldorf 'Q'? There are not 
many red keyboards around, and it was not a Virus or a Nord. Also, 
Edgar had a laptop computer and some kind of desktop module on the 
upper keyboard. Zlatko stood forward of the others to the right.

The hall is smaller than most and gave the concert a much more 
intimate feel. This was a very positive thing.

It was the sound system however which really hit me. It was the best 
I have ever heard them (fifth time) - no distortion, massive bass 
which vibrated every organ in my body and excellent stereo imaging 
with high frequency effects shooting from left to right and back 
again. For me, this was the best feature of the concert.

SET LIST
Most of the favourites were played and, as promised, there were 
tracks stretching from Zeit right through to unreleased DM 4 stuff. 
My personal favourites were the Thru Metamorphic Rock re-mix and the 
final encore - Beatles 'Back in the USSR'. The only complaint I 
can muster is that there were fewer quiet moments than the past, 
but that this was always compensated by the sound quality.

OBSERVATIONS
There was a great moment during the Zeit passage when Edgar looked 
over to Jerome, smiled and looked at his watch. Zeit is Jerome's 
least favourite TD album!

Jerome's main PC had a continuous error message. It was rebooted at 
half time, and I noticed that it went through scan-disk before 
launching windows XP. His dekstop was the snowy mountain image! Iris 
gave an amazing solo performance during this time, with the others 
watching. The error message re-appeared moments later.

I could not see Edgar's hands much, but he seemed to play a lot more 
than Jerome. He used the desktop module quite a lot. Jerome seemed 
to be playing random chords which didn't really tie up with what I 
was hearing. Probably because of the computer fault.

At the start of most tracks, both Froeses tapped the computer 
keyboards that were to their sides (rather than the ones behind)... 
could these have been the back up machines?

There was a camera man back stage who seemed to film most of the 
concert from various angles. I also saw at least one member of the 
audience video the show. He had a particularly good view of the 
guitar solo ;-)

At the final bow, a member of the audience (with a large SLR camera) 
leapt onto the stage and shook the Froeses' hands. At first they 
looked surprised, but quickly smiled and waved.

Finally, Edgar grabbed a microphone and said words to the effect 
that:

'If the CITIZENS (he stressed this word and repeated it several 
times) of the UK are right, and the Germans, French, and Russians 
are right, then we hope we are able to see you back here next year'.

Cue loudest applause of the evening!

APRES CONCERT
Finally made it to the Jack Horner (thanks to Colin for sending me 
his phone number) and met a few of those I had missed before the 
concert. It was SO good to put faces to names and it was an honour 
to meet some of you (so gutted I could not make the before show 
meet).

TTFN

BTF


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<MESSAGE index="39072">
From: 


Armin Theissen <Armin.Theissen@s...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  12:21
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] More Astoria


Hi,

from what I read about the Astoria gig which I missed it seemed
to have been very similar to previous gigs (the last one I
witnessed was Glasgow - was it 97?): a disappointing patchwork
of 'vintage' stuff in the first half, and a nice and pleasing
to listen to 2nd half with current stuff with one or two
great surprises (Thru Metamorphic Rocks, Edgar playing guitar,
and - wait a second: my beloved early 70s opus 'Zeit'????),
but probably not much of a performance effort.

Anyway, sad I couldn't make it from N.Ireland. But chances are
that I move to Surrey this year, so TD please keep up coming
to London ;-)


armin

seeker_uk2 wrote:

> Well that was TD gig #3 for me (before that Ipswich '86, SBE '02 
> before this). I'd vowed to not go after SBE, the miming was a great 
> disappointment but being a fan of 20 years now I weakened and so 
> me 'n' my other half were there.
> 
> And the concert? Glad you asked.
> 
> Well set 1 was too much like '02 but the second half was much better, 
> although I did fell like I had to wait for 90 minutes before the set 
> really took off.
> 
> High Points:
> 
> 1. The stonking rework of 'Metamorphic Rocks' (or was it 'Igneous'?).
> 
> 2. Edgar playing guitar! Does this mean that he's gone through 
> another of his 'not-playing' phases?
> 
> 3. The 'Zeit' re-working. Mast-er-ful.
> 
> 
> Low Points:
> 
> 1. Zlatko MIMING the spanish guitar bit in 'Firetongues'
> 
> 2. Jerome's PC crashing with no noticable effect - more evidence it's 
> all done from hard disk folks........
> 
> 3. Not getting the ltd edition CD45. WAH!
> 
> Just to witter on more about Edgar playing guitar, why did Zlatko 
> just stand there like a lemon? In 86 Haslinger whipped one out and 
> they both gave it rice for 10 minutes and Paul wasn't as accomplished 
> as Edgar.
> 
> Never mind, we both enjoyed it and shall go to the '04 gig.
> 
> Seeker
> 
> P.S. Anyone notice Edgar sat with his foot on the monitor. ROCK 'N' 
> F**KING ROLL!
> 
> 
> 
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<MESSAGE index="39073">
From: 


'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  12:30
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Astoria Concert 15th Feb


>His PC had a Windows error on it for most of the gig, it was reset by
>the engineer that had a look at it but 5 minutes later it was back.


Is TD supporting Setag the Liberator?
IMHO they could upgrade to something more stable (a Mac or a Linux or about 
anything) but this probably is not their fault - perhaps the virtual synths 
only support PC.

John Vertical (who is at the moment annoyed over his brand new Ages CD 
refusing to play on the computer)


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<MESSAGE index="39074">
From: 


Rainer Rutka <rainer@k...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  12:50
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] That didn't take long


On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, Shez wrote:

> please don't bid on this, one must not encourage these people for
> doing this kind of crappy business.
> >http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI
> >dll?ViewItem&item=2508977578&category=9991

Heres another sassy 'offer: 2509132006

Rainer 
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<MESSAGE index="39075">
From: 


'Georg Oppenberg' <Georg.Oppenberg@g...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  12:57
pm
Subject:  TT3 SHN files available for download


Hi,

Michael Berling finished the SHN discs including cover and liner notes
artwork and I was able to upload them to my server. 
The download server is ftp:\\tt.rondua.de. The access is via anonymous
ftp (meaning user name is ftp and password is your email address). 
Have fun downloading!

Cheers
Georg


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<MESSAGE index="39076">
From: 


'Glynn Naughton <glynn_naughton@h...>' <glynn_naughton@h...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  1:18
pm
Subject:  Re: More Astoria


>Hi,
>
>from what I read about the Astoria gig which I missed it seemed
>to have been very similar to previous gigs (the last one I
>witnessed was Glasgow - was it 97?): a disappointing patchwork
>of 'vintage' stuff in the first half, and a nice and pleasing
>to listen to 2nd half with current stuff with one or two
>great surprises (Thru Metamorphic Rocks, Edgar playing guitar,
>and - wait a second: my beloved early 70s opus 'Zeit'????),
>but probably not much of a performance effort.
>
>Anyway, sad I couldn't make it from N.Ireland. But chances are
>that I move to Surrey this year, so TD please keep up coming
>to London ;-)
>
>
>armin

Essentially the reason I didn't make the effort to go. I'd 
be happy to see TD if they came to Paris, but my days of 
travelling just to see the same old same old are over.

Edgar and Jerome miming, a snap-in percussionist and 
guitarist, another amalgam of vintage material, yet 
another _Dream Mixes_ album in prospect. Did someone say 
déjà vu?

Glynn


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39077">
From: 
Dennis Nigbur <d.nigbur@s...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  1:01
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] More Astoria


On 17 Feb 2003 at 12:21, Armin Theissen wrote:

> from what I read about the Astoria gig which I missed it seemed
> to have been very similar to previous gigs (the last one I
> witnessed was Glasgow - was it 97?): a disappointing patchwork
> of 'vintage' stuff in the first half, and a nice and pleasing
> to listen to 2nd half with current stuff with one or two
> great surprises (Thru Metamorphic Rocks, Edgar playing guitar,
> and - wait a second: my beloved early 70s opus 'Zeit'????),

Disappointing? No, not at all! I'd agree with you that the 97 tour 
seemed a bit sterile, but Saturday was nothing like it! Personally, I even 
slightly preferred the first half - the dovetailing between latter-day 
classics like Poland, Firetongues, Going West, and Comet's 
Figurehead was ingeneous. The second half was more Dream Mixes, 
but with more respectful treatments of the sources (e.g. Zeit) than the 
late 90s with their ceaseless Touchwood remixes gave us. It was my 
favourite live set since I first saw TD on stage in spring 1997.

Give us a bell when you move to Surrey! I work in Guildford!

Dennis


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39078">
From: 
Dennis Nigbur <d.nigbur@s...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  12:51
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] More on the Astoria gig


Well, so many things have already been said, so soon after the concert 
and so positive in tone overall. I'd just like to add myself to the list of 
those who really enjoyed it.

Again, Edgar and Jerome took up the centre of the stage, with Iris and 
Zlatko (who has done the Andre Agassi) added on the flanks to add 
some more extraverted stage presence to the Tangs' trademark quiet 
demeanour. Having said that, performances from both were mercifully 
understated. Zlatko, in fact, was reduced to stand around doing 
nothing for most of the show, but excelled when his skills were asked 
for (including Firetongues, which was one of the highlights of the 
evening for me, and which I had the impression WAS live...the guitar 
solo certainly sounded different from the recorded version). In the past, 
I have preferred Gerald Gradwohl's contribution, but full marks to Mr 
Perica on this occasion.

Iris thankfully resisted the temptation to batter the music to death on 
the bongos, delivered a competent and measured performance, and 
again clicked with the audience instantly. At one point, with nothing 
much to do, she shuffled around her corner of the stage for a few 
minutes, swaying like a belly dancer and drawing an amused grin from 
Edgar.

The great man of TD clearly seemed to be enjoying himself, which was 
a joy to behold. At the introduction of the reworked version of the final 
part of 'Birth of Liquid Plejades', he twiddled a few knobs on his 
keyboards to start the sequence (or pretend to do so) and then leant 
back looking at his watch...a humorous throwback to the famous 
occasion on which TD left the stage completely to leave the 
instruments to play on their own (when was that again?). The intro to 
'Beach Scene', similarly, drew a tongue-in-cheek imitation of nostalgic 
fire-lighter waving.

Jerome seemed to spend much of his time struggling with his 
equipment and waving at the sound engineers to adjust the mix. 
Despite these problems, which forced him to call one of the stage 
technicians on during Iris's customary drum solo, he seemed calm and 
asserted throughout.

The music selection was superb, with the first set (pre-drum solo) 
basically identical to the fabulous 'Most Beautiful Rock for Peace' set, 
which seemed rather topical on the evening of the UK's biggest ever 
peace demonstration (on which Edgar later commented very 
favourably). The second set included some bits that will presumably 
appear on DM4, the Zlatko version of 'Beach Scene', and a rendition 
of 'Hamlet' with Edgar himself on guitar. With no need for histrionics, 
he represented enough stage presence by just standing and playing 
(and it definitely was live), and concluding with a demure bow to the 
roaring audience. 

Overall, I thought it was a great evening. I'm still not completely 
convinced that the addition of a stage guitarist who is mostly left with 
nothing to do is necessary given Edgar's still-evident prowess on 
guitar; nor that the inclusion of a percussionist adds much more than 
spectacle, given that most of the percussion is electronic. Also, the 
second set was again rather biased towards the Dream Mixes range, 
and there was a point around the middle of the second set where the 
bass became that little bit too much for comfort. But these are purely 
questions of personal preference and don't take away anything from a 
great performance, a much appreciated favour to the fans (including 
the very fair merchandise pricing), and a brilliant evening.

Dennis

P.S.: Very much looking forward to Mota Atma - haven't they managed 
to keep that quiet?


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<MESSAGE index="39079">
From: 


'Philippe Gibone' <pgibone@h...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  12:51
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] That didn't take long


Hi shez,

I won't bid, because I agree with you, but, as I wasn't there, how will I 
get my 'The Keep' CD, shall I buy a pirate copy ??? Do you agree to sell me 
yours for 20 £ ???

Philippe (Sad not to be able to go)


>From: Shez <shez@a...>
>Reply-To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
>To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [tadream] That didn't take long
>Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:13:44 +0100
>
>
>please don't bid on this, one must not encourage these people for
>doing this kind of crappy business.
>
>
>
>On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 20:24:55 +0000 (GMT Standard Time), you wrote:
>
> >http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI
> >dll?ViewItem&item=2508977578&category=9991
> >
> >
> >and there are only a 1000 not 1600
> >
> >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
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<MESSAGE index="39080">
From: 


'Derek Hicks' <derek.c.h@n...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  12:47
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Astoria miscellany (long and rambling)


I think the keyboard to the left of Edgar was the Quasimidi Cyber 6 and the
one to the left of Jerome possibly a Quasimidi Raven.

Both now out of production.

Hope this helps.

Regards
Derek


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<MESSAGE index="39081">
From: 


Armin Theissen <Armin.Theissen@s...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  1:30
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] More Astoria


Dennis Nigbur wrote:

> 

> Give us a bell when you move to Surrey! I work in Guildford!


...oh, we might be on a flat hunt there soon. Not yet sure, but
chances are higher than 50%...

armin

> 
> Dennis
> 
> 
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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39082">
From: 


'Tom Richmond' <trichmond@b...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  1:34
pm
Subject:  Dremwatchers' Tales III artwork


Hello folks!

I saw some questions about where the artwork for DWT III was posted.
It's here: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/fred_y/dwt3/index.htm (Fred Yargui's
website).


Enjoy!

Tom

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<MESSAGE index="39083">
From: 


Armin Theissen <Armin.Theissen@s...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  1:46
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] More on the Astoria gig


Dennis Nigbur wrote:

> Well, so many things have already been said, so soon after the concert 
> and so positive in tone overall. I'd just like to add myself to the list of 
> those who really enjoyed it.
> 
> Again, Edgar and Jerome took up the centre of the stage, with Iris and 
> Zlatko (who has done the Andre Agassi)


I'd rather say - since he is a guitarist - he has done the Joe Satriani!

armin


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39084">
From: 


Armin Theissen <Armin.Theissen@s...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  1:51
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] More on the Astoria gig


Dennis Nigbur wrote:


> back looking at his watch...a humorous throwback to the famous 
> occasion on which TD left the stage completely to leave the 
> instruments to play on their own (when was that again?). 


They did this already in 1980/81 when they even left stage (while
'playing') and returned in gorilla costumes...

any earlier occurence of the 'no hands' effect?


> 
> The music selection was superb, with the first set (pre-drum solo) 
> basically identical to the fabulous 'Most Beautiful Rock for Peace' set, 
> which seemed rather topical on the evening of the UK's biggest ever 
> peace demonstration (on which Edgar later commented very 
> favourably). 


aha... I was expecting something like that. Cool.

armin

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<MESSAGE index="39085">
From: 


'billythefish01 <mudspanker@y...>' <mudspanker@y...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  2:44
pm
Subject:  Re: Astoria miscellany (long and rambling)


Thanks.

How long have they been using these? Have they broken away from the 
relationship with Korg that they have had for so long?

--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Derek Hicks' <derek.c.h@n...> wrote:
> I think the keyboard to the left of Edgar was the Quasimidi Cyber 
6 and the
> one to the left of Jerome possibly a Quasimidi Raven.
> 
> Both now out of production.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Regards
> Derek


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<MESSAGE index="39086">
From: 


'David Wakefield' <yahoo@b...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  3:18
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] More Astoria


Why do you think he was miming the classical guitar?

A friend of mine has a magic guitar effects box that can make
a piece of string tied to a plank sound like a Gibson. I assumed
he was just using an effects box.

Dave W

-------Original Message-------

From: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, February 17, 2003 12:12:00
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] More Astoria

Well that was TD gig #3 for me (before that Ipswich '86, SBE '02 
before this). I'd vowed to not go after SBE, the miming was a great 
disappointment but being a fan of 20 years now I weakened and so 
me 'n' my other half were there.

And the concert? Glad you asked.

Well set 1 was too much like '02 but the second half was much better, 
although I did fell like I had to wait for 90 minutes before the set 
really took off.

High Points:

1. The stonking rework of 'Metamorphic Rocks' (or was it 'Igneous'?).

2. Edgar playing guitar! Does this mean that he's gone through 
another of his 'not-playing' phases?

3. The 'Zeit' re-working. Mast-er-ful.


Low Points:

1. Zlatko MIMING the spanish guitar bit in 'Firetongues'

2. Jerome's PC crashing with no noticable effect - more evidence it's 
all done from hard disk folks........

3. Not getting the ltd edition CD45. WAH!

Just to witter on more about Edgar playing guitar, why did Zlatko 
just stand there like a lemon? In 86 Haslinger whipped one out and 
they both gave it rice for 10 minutes and Paul wasn't as accomplished 
as Edgar.

Never mind, we both enjoyed it and shall go to the '04 gig.

Seeker

P.S. Anyone notice Edgar sat with his foot on the monitor. ROCK 'N' 
F**KING ROLL!


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<MESSAGE index="39087">
From: 


'Colin Jouxson <convention24@y...>' <convention24@y...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  4:30
pm
Subject:  Re: Astoria Concert 15th Feb


--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Rainer Rutka <rainer@k...> wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Feb 2003, Colin Jouxson <convention24@y...> wrote:
> 
> > ..
> > peace marchers,after a struggle managed to get to my hotel in 
Villier 
> > street at 12.15pm,people were still going past when i emerged 2 
hours 
> Funny! I was in the same hotel :-) 
> Rainer
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
----
> www.rutka.de/td
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - -
I of course spoke to you in the Jack Horner Rainer,how could i forget 
your name,and also Chris Wojtecki as well,you were also with us in 
the cue waiting to go in.As far as the hotel goes i knew Vic&Duncan 
stayed there as well.
Best regards
Colin 
South Wales UK


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<MESSAGE index="39088">
From: 


Morgan Feldon <feldon@f...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  4:56
pm
Subject:  Tangerine Tree


Thought you guys might get a giggle out of this.

An e-mail I just received...

>From: '**** ********' <***********@a...>
>I am looking to purchase a tangerine tree, for my yard in Baytown, 
>Texas. My grand father had one here, for may years and i mess the tree 
>ripped fruit. If you can help me find a source, for an old fashion 
>tangerine tree please respond.


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<MESSAGE index="39089">
From: 


'Utch Entel' <Utch@i...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  5:17
pm
Subject:  Re: Astoria - Show Report


Thanks to all who wrote in with your report on the Astoria show! Thank
you very much! I truly enjoyed reading the details you all provided! 
A very exciting concert, indeed!

I couldn't find anything on TD's web site about 'The Keep' or 'The
Astoria CD'... ...was hoping beyond hope they would post them for sale.
If TD does not make them available could someone that was able to pick
up a spare copy of both at the concert please e-mail me off list?

Thanks, again, for the reports!

...Utch

--------------- Tear and crumple after reading ---------------

I have noticed that the people who are late are often so much jollier than the
people who have to wait for them. --E. V. Lucas


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<MESSAGE index="39090">
From: 


Morgan Feldon <feldon@f...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  5:22
pm
Subject:  Astoria CD


>From: Shez <shez@a...>
>Date: Mon Feb 17, 2003 5:13 am
>
>please don't bid on this, one must not encourage these people for
>doing this kind of crappy business.

You're right. These bloodthirsty creatures who buy a 2nd copy of Astoria CD 
and make it available to fans who could not afford $600 to attend must be 
stopped! :)

-Morgan


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<MESSAGE index="39091">
From: 


Morgan Feldon <feldon@f...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  5:29
pm
Subject:  Windows XP


>John Vertical said:
> >His PC had a Windows error on it for most of the gig, it was reset by
> >the engineer that had a look at it but 5 minutes later it was back.
>
>
>Is TD supporting Setag the Liberator?
>IMHO they could upgrade to something more stable (a Mac or a Linux or about
>anything) but this probably is not their fault - perhaps the virtual synths
>only support PC.

Apparently, they are running Windows XP. I don't see how anyone can get 
serious work done on this toy. For a concert, 2000 is the bare minimum (I 
last rebooted 46 days ago and my computer is as responsible/stable as when 
I booted first).

-Morgan


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<MESSAGE index="39092">
From: 


Rainer Rutka <rainer@k...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  5:45
pm
Subject:  ASTORIA PICTURES ONLINE (and the new CD, Postcards....) Rainer


Hi everybody!

OK, it`s done!

A small assortment of the pictures I made at the Astoria / London are
online now. Including pictures of the audience, some friends, the
new Special Edition CD, the promo-postcard with a picure of the new
Tangerine Dream CD and some more odds and ends.

All the LIVE(!)-pictures are available as thumbnails (still big enough
to see all!) and bigger sizes, too. Just click onto the live-pictures and 
you`ll see `em all.

Have fun!

Rainer 

Hey Vic! Where have you been after the concert :-( ?
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<MESSAGE index="39093">
From: 


'billythefish01 <mudspanker@y...>' <mudspanker@y...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  5:45
pm
Subject:  Re: Astoria - Show Report


Hi Utch,

According to Groove Unlimited they will be offering the Astoria CD 
after March 3rd. Here is the link if you do not already know it:

http://www.groove.nl/

I cannot help with the Keep I'm afraid. The merchandise stand would 
only take cash and I only had a tenner left after my mad cab dash 
across London. 

Gutted!

BTF


--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Utch Entel' <Utch@i...> wrote:
> Thanks to all who wrote in with your report on the Astoria show! 
Thank
> you very much! I truly enjoyed reading the details you all 
provided! 
> A very exciting concert, indeed!
> 
> I couldn't find anything on TD's web site about 'The Keep' or 'The
> Astoria CD'... ...was hoping beyond hope they would post them for 
sale.
> If TD does not make them available could someone that was able to 
pick
> up a spare copy of both at the concert please e-mail me off list?
> 
> Thanks, again, for the reports!
> 
> ...Utch
> 
> --------------- Tear and crumple after reading ---------------
> 
> I have noticed that the people who are late are often so much 
jollier than the people who have to wait for them. --E. V. Lucas


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<MESSAGE index="39094">
From: 


Rainer Rutka <rainer@k...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  5:47
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Astoria Concert 15th Feb


On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, Colin Jouxson <convention24@y...> wrote:

> I of course spoke to you in the Jack Horner Rainer,how could i forget 
> your name,and also Chris Wojtecki as well,you were also with us in 
> the cue waiting to go in.As far as the hotel goes i knew Vic&Duncan 
> stayed there as well.
> Best regards
> Colin 

It`s a pity! I wrote an email to the group on Thursday but nobody 
answered! So I thougt nobody is in the same hotel I did :-((

Rainer 

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<MESSAGE index="39095">
From: 


'Michael A Jean' <michaeljean@e...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  5:50
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] ASTORIA PICTURES ONLINE (and the new CD, Postcards....) Rainer


Cool. Did anyone ever figure out what the FIREBALL referred to?

MJ

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rainer Rutka [mailto:rainer@k...]
> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 12:45 PM
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [tadream] ASTORIA PICTURES ONLINE (and the new CD,
> Postcards....) Rainer
>
>
> Hi everybody!
>
> OK, it`s done!
>
> A small assortment of the pictures I made at the Astoria / London are
> online now. Including pictures of the audience, some friends, the
> new Special Edition CD, the promo-postcard with a picure of the new
> Tangerine Dream CD and some more odds and ends.
>
> All the LIVE(!)-pictures are available as thumbnails (still big enough
> to see all!) and bigger sizes, too. Just click onto the live-pictures and
> you`ll see `em all.
>
> Have fun!
>
> Rainer
>
> Hey Vic! Where have you been after the concert :-( ?
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> See the pics online: www.rutka.de/td
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>
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> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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<MESSAGE index="39096">
From: 


Rainer Rutka <rainer@k...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  5:51
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Windows XP


On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, Morgan Feldon wrote:

> Apparently, they are running Windows XP. I don't see how anyone can get 
> serious work done on this toy. For a concert, 2000 is the bare minimum (I 
> last rebooted 46 days ago and my computer is as responsible/stable as when 
> I booted first).
> -Morgan
Morgan!
I THINK I HAVE TO PAY A BEER TO YOU NEXT TIME! 
You`re mail is 10000% right!
Windows and serious work is not pssible!!!!!
Using Windows software live on stage is like Bin Laden writing a
book about peace! (sorry couldn`t resist!)

Rainer (a true Linux/UNIX fan since 15 years)

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<MESSAGE index="39097">
From: 


'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  6:02
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Windows XP


I use Windows all the time for my set ups as well as other band member's
bands. I was using win98/nt for the most part, I now have them all set to
win2000 and no problems. XP however, I would not use for any gig. Fine for
home use and controlled environment. MAC is just too finicky for my taste.

dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Rainer Rutka' <rainer@k...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Windows XP


> On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, Morgan Feldon wrote:
>
> > Apparently, they are running Windows XP. I don't see how anyone can get
> > serious work done on this toy. For a concert, 2000 is the bare minimum
(I
> > last rebooted 46 days ago and my computer is as responsible/stable as
when
> > I booted first).
> > -Morgan
> Morgan!
> I THINK I HAVE TO PAY A BEER TO YOU NEXT TIME!
> You`re mail is 10000% right!
> Windows and serious work is not pssible!!!!!
> Using Windows software live on stage is like Bin Laden writing a
> book about peace! (sorry couldn`t resist!)
>
> Rainer (a true Linux/UNIX fan since 15 years)
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Pics online now: www.rutka.de/td
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>
>
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>
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> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
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<MESSAGE index="39098">
From: 


Liondream@a... 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  6:19
pm
Subject:  Re: red keys?


Are you referring to the 'red' keyboards?

Raven is blue.

Trust me.

;-)

w

Also... Waldorf Q is either yellow (original one), slate blue, or maroon (the 
new one with the analog filters).


Message: 15
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:47:58 -0000
From: 'Derek Hicks' <derek.c.h@n...>
Subject: Re: Astoria miscellany (long and rambling)

I think the keyboard to the left of Edgar was the Quasimidi Cyber 6 and the
one to the left of Jerome possibly a Quasimidi Raven.

Both now out of production.

Hope this helps.

Regards
Derek


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<MESSAGE index="39099">
From: 


Liondream@a... 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  6:21
pm
Subject:  Re: Korg


Good point... the Korg Karma is a wine red sorta color.

Message: 20
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 14:44:00 -0000
From: 'billythefish01 <mudspanker@y...>' <mudspanker@y...>
Subject: Re: Astoria miscellany (long and rambling)

Thanks.

How long have they been using these? Have they broken away from the 
relationship with Korg that they have had for so long?

--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Derek Hicks' <derek.c.h@n...> wrote:
> I think the keyboard to the left of Edgar was the Quasimidi Cyber 
6 and the
> one to the left of Jerome possibly a Quasimidi Raven.
> 
> Both now out of production.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Regards
> Derek


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<MESSAGE index="39100">
From: 


Liondream@a... 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  6:23
pm
Subject:  Re: efx


Even Alex Lifeson was using an acoustic simulator on one of the songs in the 
last Rush tour. For live performance it's sometimes fine and easier than 
switching guitars in the middle of a song.


Message: 21
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 15:18:17 +0000 (GMT Standard Time)
From: 'David Wakefield' <yahoo@b...>
Subject: Re: More Astoria

Why do you think he was miming the classical guitar?


A friend of mine has a magic guitar effects box that can make

a piece of string tied to a plank sound like a Gibson. I assumed

he was just using an effects box.


Dave W


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<MESSAGE index="39101">
From: 


'seeker_uk2 <seeker_uk@e...>' <seeker_uk@e...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  6:25
pm
Subject:  Re: That didn't take long


£100! LMFAO!

Seeker

> 
> Heres another sassy 'offer: 2509132006
> 
> Rainer 


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<MESSAGE index="39102">
From: 


Morgan Feldon <feldon@f...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  6:29
pm
Subject:  Tangerine Tree 3


I am now listening to 1980.01.31 Berlin Palast der Republik.

Heiko, did Edgar give you this tape? Oh my god, it blows away every other 
recording thus far of this show. It is release quality!

-Morgan


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<MESSAGE index="39103">
From: 


'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  6:34
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Tangerine Tree


>Thought you guys might get a giggle out of this.
>
>An e-mail I just received...
>
> >From: '**** ********' <***********@a...>
> >I am looking to purchase a tangerine tree, for my yard in Baytown,
> >Texas. My grand father had one here, for may years and i mess the tree
> >ripped fruit. If you can help me find a source, for an old fashion
> >tangerine tree please respond.


Ahh, the average AOL users... :D
I wonder where did he(she?) find your contact information?

John Vertical

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<MESSAGE index="39104">
From: 


'Derek Hicks' <derek.c.h@n...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  2:52
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: Astoria Keyboards


The Cyber 6 is a controller keyboard only. The Raven has its own onboard
sounds, but could have been used as a master controller also?

When I last saw TD at SBE I think they had these keyboards then. They have
certainly been around a few years.

Not sure what the current Korg relationship is ?, but I would think that TD
would use whatever they felt was best for the circumstances.

PS. Anyone got a Raven (Max - expanded) for sale ??

Cheers
Derek

----- Original Message -----
From: <mudspanker@y...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 2:44 PM
Subject: [tadream] Re: Astoria miscellany (long and rambling)


> Thanks.
>
> How long have they been using these? Have they broken away from the
> relationship with Korg that they have had for so long?
>
> --- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Derek Hicks' <derek.c.h@n...> wrote:
> > I think the keyboard to the left of Edgar was the Quasimidi Cyber
> 6 and the
> > one to the left of Jerome possibly a Quasimidi Raven.
> >
> > Both now out of production.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Regards
> > Derek
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
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> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
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> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>


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<MESSAGE index="39105">
From: 


Morgan Feldon <feldon@f...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  6:32
pm
Subject:  Windows 2000


>On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, Morgan Feldon wrote:
>
> > Apparently, they are running Windows XP. I don't see how anyone can get
> > serious work done on this toy. For a concert, 2000 is the bare minimum (I
> > last rebooted 46 days ago and my computer is as responsible/stable as when
> > I booted first).
> > -Morgan
>Morgan!
>I THINK I HAVE TO PAY A BEER TO YOU NEXT TIME!
>You`re mail is 10000% right!
>Windows and serious work is not pssible!!!!!
>Using Windows software live on stage is like Bin Laden writing a
>book about peace! (sorry couldn`t resist!)
>
>Rainer (a true Linux/UNIX fan since 15 years)

Erm, I don't believe that's what I said.

Windows 2000 is the only OS Microsoft put out that's worth every penny of 
$300. It runs for weeks without reboots, crashes, slowdowns, or problems.

Enjoy your linux. Use whatever works. :)

-Morgan 'Graphic Designer that made the 'Switch' from Mac to PC in 1996 and 
hasn't looked back once' M.


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<MESSAGE index="39106">
From: 


'Sean Montgomery <sean@t...>' <sean@t...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  6:44
pm
Subject:  Re: ASTORIA PICTURES ONLINE (and the new CD, Postcards....) Rainer


Thanks for the pictures, Rainer! 

Wow, I didn't realize that they'd brought in Vin Diesel to play guitar
for the show! ;-)

Strange to see Ed without the 'stache...but you almost don't notice
it's gone...it's as though the skin it used to cover isn't as tanned
as the rest of his face.


So....any comments about 'Gate of Saturn'? I know what to expect from
the remixes, but what direction does the new track take? Mars
Polaris-y? Inferno-y? Bongo-ific? I don't suppose anyone with the
CD uses Soulseek?


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<MESSAGE index="39107">
From: 


'David Wakefield' <yahoo@b...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  7:08
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: That didn't take long


And another one

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2509116564&category=307

-------Original Message-------

From: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, February 17, 2003 18:25:55
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] Re: That didn't take long

£100! LMFAO!

Seeker

> 
> Heres another sassy 'offer: 2509132006
> 
> Rainer 


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<MESSAGE index="39108">
From: 


Rainer Rutka <rainer@k...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  7:41
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: That didn't take long


On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, David Wakefield wrote:

> And another one
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2509116564&category=307

Well, £20 is what we paid at the concert. This is fair IMO ._)

Rainer
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<MESSAGE index="39109">
From: 


Volkmar Friauf <colognese@g...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  7:32
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Astoria Concert 15th Feb


Fortunately, my wife & I made it to the Astoria, but unfortunately, we had 
stayed near Marble Arch (en route for the nonfunctional Central line), 
decided to walk along Oxford Street, and got stuck in the masses of 
protestors streaming back from Hyde Park. Even that slow walk was got 
interrupted when we reached Oxford Circus, where the tube station was 
station being evacuated due to fire alarm, and crouds rushing on the 
street... not what I call a pleasant walk!

So we arrived way later than we had planned, when the doors were already 
open (and when the queue had gotton two blocks long). When searching the 
end of the queue, we caught a glimpse of Heiko Heersen & Alan, but since 
you were already near the door, we decided not to 'smuggle' ourselfs into 
the queue by joining you, and queued up properly instead - 'the British 
like to queue up', as one visitor explained to me ;-)

Queueing up for merchandising booth ate nearly all time until 7:00pm, so we 
didn't caught you inside, too. Anyway, we found a nice place on the side of 
the balcony, having a clear view at the stage.

I really got enthusiastic when listeing to the music. They played pieces I 
had never thought I could finally hear them performed live... I won't go 
too much into details about the tracks, since most of you already mentioned 
the highlights. - I really cheered at 'Zeit', since I had not expect them 
going back in time *that* far. Did I see right - Edgar & Jerome grinning at 
each other when playing the first notes, waiting for audience's reaction?

Iris Kulterer's percussion solo was another highlight, too, both from sound 
& from her personal show - but having read about Jeromes Windows XP 
crashing, I'm curious now: Had her solo been planned, or was it completely 
improvised?

And of course there were Tangram, Logos, Metamorphic Rocks, Kiev 
Mission... well, the whole concert was full of highlights :-)

Best regards to all of you who made it there, and especially for all who 
didn't... there's chance they might play again next year :-)

Volkmar


P.S.: Heathrow Airport on Sunday afternoon was an experience of its own - 
especially the queue for security checks, which went twice through the 
terminal hall. I've never seen a queue *that* long at an airport... 


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<MESSAGE index="39110">
From: 


'Gary Jenkins <quinoa@v...>' <quinoa@v...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  7:38
pm
Subject:  Re: More Astoria


--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'David Wakefield' <yahoo@b...> wrote:
> Why do you think he was miming the classical guitar?
> 
I was stood at the front by Zlato and he certainly was playing live 
on Firetongues he actually changed guitars to play this.

Cheers Gary


> 
> -------Original Message-------
> 
> From: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, February 17, 2003 12:12:00
> To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [tadream] More Astoria
> 
> Well that was TD gig #3 for me (before that Ipswich '86, SBE '02 
> before this). I'd vowed to not go after SBE, the miming was a great 
> disappointment but being a fan of 20 years now I weakened and so 
> me 'n' my other half were there.
> 
> And the concert? Glad you asked.
> 
> Well set 1 was too much like '02 but the second half was much 
better, 
> although I did fell like I had to wait for 90 minutes before the 
set 
> really took off.
> 
> High Points:
> 
> 1. The stonking rework of 'Metamorphic Rocks' (or was 
it 'Igneous'?).
> 
> 2. Edgar playing guitar! Does this mean that he's gone through 
> another of his 'not-playing' phases?
> 
> 3. The 'Zeit' re-working. Mast-er-ful.
> 
> 
> Low Points:
> 
> 1. Zlatko MIMING the spanish guitar bit in 'Firetongues'
> 
> 2. Jerome's PC crashing with no noticable effect - more evidence 
it's 
> all done from hard disk folks........
> 
> 3. Not getting the ltd edition CD45. WAH!
> 
> Just to witter on more about Edgar playing guitar, why did Zlatko 
> just stand there like a lemon? In 86 Haslinger whipped one out and 
> they both gave it rice for 10 minutes and Paul wasn't as 
accomplished 
> as Edgar.
> 
> Never mind, we both enjoyed it and shall go to the '04 gig.
> 
> Seeker
> 
> P.S. Anyone notice Edgar sat with his foot on the monitor. ROCK 'N' 
> F**KING ROLL!
> 
> 
> 
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> ----------------------------------------------------_-
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> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> 
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> http://www.tadream.net/tree 
> 
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From: 


'Debra Wilson' <the_singing_goat@a...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  8:00
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Tangerine Tree


LMAO! That is funny!

Debra Wilson
Billy-Bob's Boers, Percentage Meat Goats in SoCal
http://home.att.net/~billybobsboers/index.html
AudioGalaxy, For All Your P2P Needs
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-----Original Message-----
From: Morgan Feldon [mailto:feldon@f...]
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 8:57 AM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] Tangerine Tree


Thought you guys might get a giggle out of this.

An e-mail I just received...

>From: '**** ********' <***********@a...>
>I am looking to purchase a tangerine tree, for my yard in Baytown, 
>Texas. My grand father had one here, for may years and i mess the tree 
>ripped fruit. If you can help me find a source, for an old fashion 
>tangerine tree please respond.


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<MESSAGE index="39112">
From: 


'Piotr Millennium 3' <piotr3@a...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  8:54
pm
Subject:  Pictures from Jack Horner and Astoria Theatre


Hi,

Pictures from Jack Horner and Astoria Theatre :

http://www.astercity.net/~sulas/londyn_2003.html

If somebody wants' large size' pictures from Jack Horner - to write to:
sulas@a...


Pozdrawiam

Piotr S. 'Millennium'

Strona zawieraj±ca informacje o nieoficjalnych
nagraniach Tangerine Dream :
http://www.astercity.net/~sulas/


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<MESSAGE index="39113">
From: 


'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  10:12
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Tangerine Tree #3


From: <strat95@b...>

> Just a quick question about the artwork for the TT#3. On the artwork page it
> lists liner notes coming soon. I have been putting off printing my artwork
> in waiting for the liner notes. Any idea when these might be finished and
> added to the webpage for download???


The liners are available on the site now, along with the TT3 wrapper.

http://tdtree.blackaxis.co.uk/tt3.htm#liners

If you plan to print the liners on both sides of a sheet of paper, I would
suggest printing the provided liner test sheet a few times first to calibrate
your printer correctly.


Maff


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39114">
From: 


'Pergamon' <pergamon@g...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  10:17
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Windows XP


Am I the only one, with no problems running XP????? My machine is running
smoothly and stable...................what are you all doing to your
computers????....=O)

Jan

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Administrator' <admin@k...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Windows XP


> I use Windows all the time for my set ups as well as other band member's
> bands. I was using win98/nt for the most part, I now have them all set to
> win2000 and no problems. XP however, I would not use for any gig. Fine for
> home use and controlled environment. MAC is just too finicky for my taste.
>
> dale
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Rainer Rutka' <rainer@k...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 9:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [tadream] Windows XP
>
>
> > On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, Morgan Feldon wrote:
> >
> > > Apparently, they are running Windows XP. I don't see how anyone can
get
> > > serious work done on this toy. For a concert, 2000 is the bare minimum
> (I
> > > last rebooted 46 days ago and my computer is as responsible/stable as
> when
> > > I booted first).
> > > -Morgan
> > Morgan!
> > I THINK I HAVE TO PAY A BEER TO YOU NEXT TIME!
> > You`re mail is 10000% right!
> > Windows and serious work is not pssible!!!!!
> > Using Windows software live on stage is like Bin Laden writing a
> > book about peace! (sorry couldn`t resist!)
> >
> > Rainer (a true Linux/UNIX fan since 15 years)
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Pics online now: www.rutka.de/td
>
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> >
> > Tangerine Tree info at
> > http://www.tadream.net/tree
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>


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<MESSAGE index="39115">
From: 


'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  10:23
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Windows XP


Perhaps they add to them, update them, and other interesting things. The
hardest part is the transportation. A few bumps and the hard drive isn't
working much anymore.
Like most systems, once set up and left alone they work great. But add a
update here and there, a piece of software, filter, or new program, it all
might fall like a house of cards.

Dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Pergamon' <pergamon@g...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Windows XP


> Am I the only one, with no problems running XP????? My machine is running
> smoothly and stable...................what are you all doing to your
> computers????....=O)
>
> Jan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Administrator' <admin@k...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 7:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [tadream] Windows XP
>
>
> > I use Windows all the time for my set ups as well as other band member's
> > bands. I was using win98/nt for the most part, I now have them all set
to
> > win2000 and no problems. XP however, I would not use for any gig. Fine
for
> > home use and controlled environment. MAC is just too finicky for my
taste.
> >
> > dale
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: 'Rainer Rutka' <rainer@k...>
> > To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 9:51 AM
> > Subject: Re: [tadream] Windows XP
> >
> >
> > > On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, Morgan Feldon wrote:
> > >
> > > > Apparently, they are running Windows XP. I don't see how anyone can
> get
> > > > serious work done on this toy. For a concert, 2000 is the bare
minimum
> > (I
> > > > last rebooted 46 days ago and my computer is as responsible/stable
as
> > when
> > > > I booted first).
> > > > -Morgan
> > > Morgan!
> > > I THINK I HAVE TO PAY A BEER TO YOU NEXT TIME!
> > > You`re mail is 10000% right!
> > > Windows and serious work is not pssible!!!!!
> > > Using Windows software live on stage is like Bin Laden writing a
> > > book about peace! (sorry couldn`t resist!)
> > >
> > > Rainer (a true Linux/UNIX fan since 15 years)
> > >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Pics online now: www.rutka.de/td
> >
>
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> > > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> > >
> > > Tangerine Tree info at
> > > http://www.tadream.net/tree
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> >
> > Tangerine Tree info at
> > http://www.tadream.net/tree
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


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<MESSAGE index="39116">
From: 


Björn Sip <bjoernsip@g...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  10:32
pm
Subject:  Another one!


This is good old guy Duncan!

And it´s the official gig prize.

I think, that´s ok!

Otherwise I would be happy (as one of the working class not having the time to
trip to London for TD), if one of the list members would offer me the
Astoria-CD, The Keep oder Sony Topping oder other gig-merchandise at good
conditions.....

Björn

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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39117">
From: 


'Pergamon' <pergamon@g...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  10:39
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Windows XP


You are right about that. I used to have all kind of things installed on my
computer and had all sorts of problems. Now I have only software for
music-production installed and up until now, no problems. The only two OS
that has worked for me has been Win98 and XP. All the other Microsoft OS,
gave me lots of problems.

Jan

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Administrator' <admin@k...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 11:23 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Windows XP


> Perhaps they add to them, update them, and other interesting things. The
> hardest part is the transportation. A few bumps and the hard drive isn't
> working much anymore.
> Like most systems, once set up and left alone they work great. But add a
> update here and there, a piece of software, filter, or new program, it all
> might fall like a house of cards.
>
> Dale
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 'Pergamon' <pergamon@g...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 2:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [tadream] Windows XP
>
>
> > Am I the only one, with no problems running XP????? My machine is
running
> > smoothly and stable...................what are you all doing to your
> > computers????....=O)
> >
> > Jan
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: 'Administrator' <admin@k...>
> > To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 7:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: [tadream] Windows XP
> >
> >
> > > I use Windows all the time for my set ups as well as other band
member's
> > > bands. I was using win98/nt for the most part, I now have them all set
> to
> > > win2000 and no problems. XP however, I would not use for any gig. Fine
> for
> > > home use and controlled environment. MAC is just too finicky for my
> taste.
> > >
> > > dale
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: 'Rainer Rutka' <rainer@k...>
> > > To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 9:51 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [tadream] Windows XP
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, Morgan Feldon wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Apparently, they are running Windows XP. I don't see how anyone
can
> > get
> > > > > serious work done on this toy. For a concert, 2000 is the bare
> minimum
> > > (I
> > > > > last rebooted 46 days ago and my computer is as responsible/stable
> as
> > > when
> > > > > I booted first).
> > > > > -Morgan
> > > > Morgan!
> > > > I THINK I HAVE TO PAY A BEER TO YOU NEXT TIME!
> > > > You`re mail is 10000% right!
> > > > Windows and serious work is not pssible!!!!!
> > > > Using Windows software live on stage is like Bin Laden writing a
> > > > book about peace! (sorry couldn`t resist!)
> > > >
> > > > Rainer (a true Linux/UNIX fan since 15 years)
> > > >
> > >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > Pics online now: www.rutka.de/td
> > >
> >
>
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > > > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > > > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> > > > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> > > >
> > > > Tangerine Tree info at
> > > > http://www.tadream.net/tree
> > > >
> > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> > > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> > >
> > > Tangerine Tree info at
> > > http://www.tadream.net/tree
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> > ----------------------------------------------------_-
> > Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> > http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> >
> > Tangerine Tree info at
> > http://www.tadream.net/tree
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39118">
From: 


Rainer Rutka <rainer@k...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  10:41
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Windows XP


On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, Pergamon wrote:

> Am I the only one, with no problems running XP????? My machine is running
> smoothly and stable...................what are you all doing to your
> computers????....=O)

We are using them :-)

Rainer 
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<MESSAGE index="39119">
From: 


Rainer Rutka <rainer@k...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  10:48
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Windows XP


On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, Administrator wrote:

> Like most systems, once set up and left alone they work great. But add a
> update here and there, a piece of software, filter, or new program, it all
> might fall like a house of cards.
...and Microsoft is controlling everything you`re doing. If you don`t use
anti-spy programms you are like an open book to MS!
On the other side: You never know all whats up inside your Windows-
system. I am working in the computer business since 1986 and I know all(!)
Microsoft systems since the beginning of DOS 2.11. And I never(!) saw anything
from Microsoft doing well its job. Too much ressources, not stable and not
lucent.
OK, I stop now! This is a TD mailinglist and not my favourite MS-haters
group. Sorry!

CU all!

Rainer 
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<MESSAGE index="39120">
From: 
'Matthew Stringer' <qube@f...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 18, 2003  12:28
am
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Re: More Astoria


The miming guitar comments are misplaced.

The sound of an electric guitar depends on what peddle is being used,
the pick up arrangement/type and type of strings used.

Plug an acoustic guitar into an overdrive peddle and it'll sound like an
electric.

The acoustic sound you heard is because of the strings used on that
particular guitar (you should've noticed him changing guitars).

I was stood at the front, the Z Man didn't mime. I can assure you of
that.

Matthew


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39121">
From: 


'Jim Moore' <moxica@a...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 18, 2003  3:38
am
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Digital Soundtrack Collection


Yeah, this is an excellent collection. I found another Hollywood Years
track from the Red Heat section, but I've never taken the time to document
which track it is (not the Lizard Overland one).

From: strat95@b... [mailto:strat95@b...] 

I just finished putting my set together. Printed out the covers, trays and
CD labels. This is a sharp looking set. Listened to the first few discs as I
worked and the quality is outstanding!!


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39122">
From: 


'Jim Moore' <moxica@a...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 18, 2003  3:38
am
Subject:  Astoria London!


Just got back to Atlanta from an incredible trip to London! 

First of all, let me express my warmest regards to the British people in
general for having such a wonderful city for someone like me to explore and
experience. My time was way too short, but I won't make that mistake when I
return!

Saturday morning, I woke up and made it to the Underground in time to get to
Trafalgar Square before the protests began. Trying to stay one step ahead
of the marchers, I managed to get some decent sight-seeing in that morning.
(At one point, some demonstrators tried to recruit me to carry some signs
for them -- fortunately, the confrontation didn't quite turn physical.)
Realizing that I might end up stranded too far away to meet the gang at Jack
Horner's, I dashed north to Oxford Street and checked out the larger record
stores. In the HMV store, I met some other TD fans who aren't on this list
who were also in town from Germany (I believe). We chatted a bit about the
music and then parted ways. For the next hour or so, I parked myself in an
Internet Cafe to warm up, avoid the procession outside, and catch up both on
personal and work e-mail.

At about 3:30, I made my way to Jack Horner and met up with the crew (thank
goodness someone was wearing a TDI shirt!). It was great to put some faces
to the names that I've been seeing all these years! As someone else
previously mentioned, I'd probably get some names wrong, and leave out
others, so I'd save myself some embarrassment say you were all a great bunch
to hang out with and swap stories! Hopefully, I'll have my pictures on a
site somewhere soon and you can remind me who you are! 

At 5:30, we made our way to get in line at the show -- for some reason it
never occurred to me to buy gloves the whole time I was there -- and I made
the mistake of forgetting to conceal my camera upon entering the venue and
had it confiscated (but I *did* get it back after the show). Once inside,
we herded our way to the downstairs merchandise counter where I picked up a
spare copy each of the Keep, Sony, and Astoria single. I also met some
other acquaintances before the show and chatted over another beer or two (I
somehow had forgotten to eat anything all day, so the beer was working
better than normal). Finally the show began with the piece from
Firestarter...

The concert itself was everything that I had expected and more (my last
concert was '88 Dallas)! It was a great mix of old and new. I kind of
regretted buying the music, as I had no where to stow my stuff, and it was
hard to clap and dance (in my most unflattering personal definition of that
word). I also regretted that more of my friends from the US weren't there
to hear it! Just some comments and notes of my own:
* I think Zlatko may have had minimal rehearsal time with the music -- he
performed *his* songs wonderfully, though.
* A lot of signals to the mixing crew.
* Iris... just so captivating! It was an effort to not watch just her the
entire concert!
*After hearing the talk about DAT and hard drive playback, I have to say I
disagree. (1) At the beginning of the Comfort Zone, the bass part was
playing, but the 12-note sequence started late and not until Edgar made an
adjustment on his top control (forgive my lack of technical terminology,
please). (2) Edgar and Jerome made the watch joke because Jerome was
holding the note for so long. (3) At one point, Edgar was furiously trying
to read the display on his top control and made some adjustments after. (4)
System error on Jerome's box that the crewman came out to fix repeatedly Why
bother if it's all on autopilot?
*'Back in the USSR!' -- Thank you! I was trying to figure that tune out
all weekend!
* If they're not going to play in London next year, then maybe they'll
finally get to do that American tour!

Afterwards, a small group of us tried to find a quiet place to have a pint
(and some food) -- without too much success, though the Georgia Boys
eventually found a corner at the Moon Under Water establishment to mingle
with the locals. Soon, the wear of a full day's walking, and the danger of
an impending stop to the Underground operation had me return to my hotel to
quickly slumber in a deluge of dreams and visions of that evening.

The next day, I made a point to visit Hyde Park in Kensington -- though I
had no media with me, the refrains of the song by the same name continuously
played through my mind. That is, until I reached the Royal Albert hall,
when hints of an earlier era of the band began to come back to memory.
Incredible! It's like there still some part of that concert resonating in
that area like a ghost from the past.

And on my last night in London, ironically, Shy People played on the TV
while I fell asleep... Again, a wonderful weekend! 

- jim
__________________________________________________
Jim Moore, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
moxica@a...


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39123">
From: 


Steven Feldman <scfeldman@j...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 18, 2003  4:45
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Astoria CD


On Sun, 16 Feb 2003 17:42:19 -0800 'Chris Owen'
<chris@o...> writes:

>The Astoria CD has three tracks -
> 
>1. 'From Kiev With Love'
> 
>This is a Dream Mixes version of 'Kiew Mission' and according to 
>the cover will be on Dream Mixes 4

>3. 'Meta Morph Magic'
>
>This is a Dream Mixes version of 'Thru Metamorphic Rocks' and 
>according to the cover will be on Dream Mixes 4

Holy cow! Remixes of Kiew Mission and Through Metamorphic
Rocks on one disc?!?! Those are two of my most fave TD tracks
ever! Yay! :)

Stephe Feldman, androgyne <scfeldman@j...>
http://androgyne.0catch.com/ Androgyne Online webmaster
[note that the '0' in '0catch' is a zero (Ø), not a capital O]

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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39124">
From: 


Harry <TaDream@c...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 18, 2003  1:49
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Tangerine Tree 3


on 2/17/03 12:29 PM, Morgan Feldon at feldon..at..feldoncentral.com wrote:

> I am now listening to 1980.01.31 Berlin Palast der Republik.

Ditto. (Thanks Georg_)

> Heiko, did Edgar give you this tape? Oh my god, it blows away every other
> recording thus far of this show. It is release quality!
> 
> -Morgan

And from the liner notes: '...from a tape copy of a reel-to-reel master
recording.' A made-up story to protect the guilty perhaps? ;)

In a word: Wow! 

A big thank you to all involved.

Harry


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39125">
From: 


'Derek Hicks' <derek.c.h@n...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  7:42
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: red keys?


Indeed the Raven is blue.

Cyber 6 is the red one.

Cheers
Derek


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39126">
From: 


'lee_nielinger <Lee223@h...>' <Lee223@h...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  7:42
pm
Subject:  Astoria Gig


Any chance of a track list?

This was the 1st concert I have missed since 1982!!
help!!!!!!!!!


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39127">
From: 


'rockyrobin_99 <rockyrobin_99@y...>' <rockyrobin_99@y...> 
Date:  Mon Feb 17, 2003  7:02
pm
Subject:  Coming Clean


Some lovely pics Rainer - 

Were you the digi camera at the front/centre?

I admit that I am in one of them..??

Any chance of a copy..i think you know which one!!

Nice one

robin


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39128">
From: 


Marko Marin <rubyconist@y...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 18, 2003  8:05
am
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Astoria Concert 15th Feb


--- John Vertical <johnvertical@h...> wrote:
> John Vertical (who is at the moment annoyed over his
> brand new Ages CD 
> refusing to play on the computer)

Can I presume you mean Edgar's Ages? Well, it plays
fine in my computer!! HAH! ;-) Have tried to reboot
the machine? Or tried to play the cd in a different
player?

Regards,
Marko Marin

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<MESSAGE index="39129">
From: 


'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 18, 2003  8:15
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Windows XP


> > Like most systems, once set up and left alone they work great. But add a
> > update here and there, a piece of software, filter, or new program, it 
>all
> > might fall like a house of cards.
>...and Microsoft is controlling everything you`re doing. If you don`t use
>anti-spy programms you are like an open book to MS!
>On the other side: You never know all whats up inside your Windows-
>system. I am working in the computer business since 1986 and I know all(!)
>Microsoft systems since the beginning of DOS 2.11. And I never(!) saw 
>anything
>from Microsoft doing well its job. Too much ressources, not stable and not
>lucent.


IMHO in OS's, and most basic program types, there has been no essential new 
additions since circa 1995. They've just fixed bugs and added new 'features' 
which will only annoy you or eat memory. (Graphics, video or other such 
things which need plenty of memory don't count.)

Feel free to inform if I've missed something crucial but not very visible?

John Vertical

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<MESSAGE index="39130">
From: 
'Matthew Stringer' <qube@f...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 18, 2003  8:35
am
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Windows XP


I think it was 2K rather than XP, which is interesting as they used to
use Mac's. But has to be said that the amount of audio software for
Linux is almost none existent unless you want to write Amiga Mods! And
Mac's have seen a decline too.

Software like Reason, Acid, Soundforge and ReBirth are fantastically
powerful and are available on the Windows platform only.

Sorry dudes.

M@


-----Original Message-----
From: Rainer Rutka [mailto:rainer@k...] 
Sent: 17 February 2003 17:51
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tadream] Windows XP

On Mon, 17 Feb 2003, Morgan Feldon wrote:

> Apparently, they are running Windows XP. I don't see how anyone can
get 
> serious work done on this toy. For a concert, 2000 is the bare minimum
(I 
> last rebooted 46 days ago and my computer is as responsible/stable as
when 
> I booted first).
> -Morgan
Morgan!
I THINK I HAVE TO PAY A BEER TO YOU NEXT TIME! 
You`re mail is 10000% right!
Windows and serious work is not pssible!!!!!
Using Windows software live on stage is like Bin Laden writing a
book about peace! (sorry couldn`t resist!)

Rainer (a true Linux/UNIX fan since 15 years)

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<MESSAGE index="39131">
From: 


'loart24 <mat.mckenzie@O...>' <mat.mckenzie@O...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 18, 2003  8:57
am
Subject:  Yet Another Review of the Astoria Gig!


Not a regular contributor to the newsgroup but an avid fan and gig 
goer since 1986 thought I'd share my personal views!

They did 'Love on a Real Train / Risky Business' - my life is 
complete - I have waited to hear that live for what seems like an 
eternity and to combine that with reworkings of Richochet and Exit - 
well it doesn't get much better than that. Not completely phobic of 
the newer material Comets figure head and towards the evening star 
were also as superb as ever.

That said.....

Lovely though she is, I felt that Iris or 'bongo betty' as we fondly 
referred to her as, seemed superfluous - having watched electronic 
bands for many years having nothing much doesn't bother me as you can 
then concentrate on the music and I don't think 'every' single track 
that was played really needed percussion on it, but there seemed a 
breakbeat behind all of them. Maybe some interesting lighting or 
visuals would be a better plan like the old days.

As for the mime argument, we couldn't really see EF & JF's hands 
where we were and judging by the guitarist there was a 'mixture' of 
live and straight off the hard disk. I guess the way we make music 
these days means you tend to compose the music, record it in your 
sequencer and playback is more a case of 'tweaking' and manipulating 
the sounds & sequences, perhaps with some live playing on top of the 
whole thing so I wouldn't knock them too much for that.

Where we were upstairs we found the percussion / breakbeat drums 
seemed to drown out the melodic sequences which we were trying to 
hear, which is a shame as I always enjoyed the power of the clean 
crisp sounds on Exit and subtle chord changes on the quieter pieces, 
maybe thats the mixing desk controllers fault???

The queue for the merchandise was a nightmare! we had to do the 
unthinkable & pop out for 5 mins during the show to ensure we got the 
goodies.

Having now had the chance to play the Astoria and the Sony Center cds 
I think 'on the whole' the Astoria is the better but the Sony Center 
has the best original melody hiding on it I've heard for years.

The Sony Center is a nice item to have from a collecting point of 
view, but the first 12 minutes are completely bland, dull and 
forgettable.......which is a real shame as the final 5 minutes or so 
of the CD is STUNNING!!!

13 minutes into the cd comes an awesome chord melody which they did 
live on saturday and it still makes the hairs stand up on my arms - 
truly stunning, why could they not do a L O N G version of this ? 
it's the kind of melodic genius found on the Legend sound track. As 
that fades, in comes a blinding sequence which could have originated 
from white eagle, which is then beefed up by punchy bassline & drums. 
Just goes to show that everyone picks up on different hings in their 
music - if TD though that to be good they would have made it 
longer.......

In summary a superb gig with a few minor niggles, but hey they 
did 'Love on a Real Train / Risky Business' so I'm a happy man!


Mat Mckenzie


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<MESSAGE index="39132">
From: 


'calanish1 <calanish1@y...>' <calanish1@y...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 18, 2003  9:14
am
Subject:  TT3 database?


Hi,

I wonder if someone can give me some quick info on the TT3 database. 
I'm signed up, but haven't been issued a supplier yet. Do most 
people have their TT3 disks by now or is the current level still 
around 2 or 3? The reason I ask is I understand the SHN files are on 
an FTP location ( Thanks to those kind hearts for doing this ), but 
I'm signed up for redbook discs. I wish I had the bandwidth to 
download the SHN files, but such is life. Could someone please 
assure me out there that the TT3 distribution is still ongoing and 
that I'm not the last poor soul without their TT3's yet.

Thanks to all involved in the project and sorry if I sound 
overanxious. 

Lee


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<MESSAGE index="39133">
From: 


'Colin Jouxson <convention24@y...>' <convention24@y...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 18, 2003  9:49
am
Subject:  Re: Pictures from Jack Horner and Astoria Theatre


--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Piotr Millennium 3' <piotr3@a...> 
wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Pictures from Jack Horner and Astoria Theatre :
> 
> http://www.astercity.net/~sulas/londyn_2003.html
> 
> If somebody wants' large size' pictures from Jack Horner - to write 
to: sulas@a...
> 
> 
> Pozdrawiam
> 
> Piotr S. 'Millennium'
> 
> Strona zawieraj±ca informacje o nieoficjalnych
> nagraniach Tangerine Dream :
> http://www.astercity.net/~sulas/
Thanks for the excellent snaps from the Jack Horner Piotr,im the ugly 
one in the Seven Letters T/Shirt.
Best regards
Colin. 
South Wales UK


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<MESSAGE index="39134">
From: 


'Colin Jouxson <convention24@y...>' <convention24@y...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 18, 2003  9:53
am
Subject:  Rainers Online Astoria Photos.


Hello Rainer
I am having trouble Accessing your pictures from the Astoria,i am 
using your usual web address www.rutka.de/td but for some reason 
cannot access anything on the Astoria concert,is there another link i 
could use.
Best regards
Colin


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<MESSAGE index="39135">
From: 


Rainer Rutka <rainer@k...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 18, 2003  10:01
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Rainers Online Astoria Photos.


On Tue, 18 Feb 2003, Colin Jouxson <convention24@y...> wrote:

> Hello Rainer
> I am having trouble Accessing your pictures from the Astoria,i am 
> using your usual web address www.rutka.de/td but for some reason 
> cannot access anything on the Astoria concert,is there another link i 
> could use.
> Best regards
> Colin

Hi!

Hmmmm - the address is fine :-| And I do not use any java or javascript.
So every browser must be able to display the pages.

Try this: www.rutka.de/td/astoria03/astoria.html

Do you got any error-messages. It`s working because most of the
pals got it.

Rainer 
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<MESSAGE index="39136">
From: 


Steven Feldman <scfeldman@j...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 18, 2003  10:14
am
Subject:  Bongo Betty (was Yet Another Review of the Astoria Gig!)


On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 08:57:26 -0000 'loart24
<mat.mckenzie@O...>' <mat.mckenzie@O...>
writes:

>Lovely though she is, I felt that Iris or 'bongo betty' as we 
>fondly referred to her as, seemed superfluous - having watched 
>electronic bands for many years having nothing much doesn't 
>bother me as you can then concentrate on the music and I don't 
>think 'every' single track that was played really needed 
>percussion on it [. . .]

Eep. That's what 'happened' to the reissued OPTICAL RACE /
LILY ON THE BEACH / MELROSE set: almost every single track has 
some sort of drumming added to it if not actually bongoes -- 
which do in fact appear.
Honestly, this drumming overkill is almost as annoying as
TD's saxophone phase.

>Mat Mckenzie

Steven Feldman

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From: 


'Colin Jouxson <convention24@y...>' <convention24@y...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 18, 2003  10:22
am
Subject:  Re: Rainers Online Astoria Photos.


--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, Rainer Rutka <rainer@k...> wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Feb 2003, Colin Jouxson <convention24@y...> wrote:
> 
> > Hello Rainer
> > I am having trouble Accessing your pictures from the Astoria,i am 
> > using your usual web address www.rutka.de/td but for some reason 
> > cannot access anything on the Astoria concert,is there another 
link i 
> > could use.
> > Best regards
> > Colin
> 
> Hi!
> 
> Hmmmm - the address is fine :-| And I do not use any java or 
javascript.
> So every browser must be able to display the pages.
> 
> Try this: www.rutka.de/td/astoria03/astoria.html


> 
> Do you got any error-messages. It`s working because most of the
> pals got it.
> 
> Rainer 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
----
> www.rutka.de/td
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- - - Thanks Rainer thats sorted the problem,a fine collection of 
snaps from yourself as usual.
CJ


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From: 


'braddito <toby.braddick@u...>' <toby.braddick@u...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 18, 2003  11:12
am
Subject:  Re: Bongo Betty (was Yet Another Review of the Astoria Gig!)


I'd have to agree about the excessive drum element. In the balcony, 
the mix seemed to have the prearranged tracks far too high and it 
would have been nice to have heard more of the melody. I'm guessing 
that Jerome is mainly interested in dance tracks and has done this 
work as it does not seem to be Edgar's general style. It's one of 
those things that works well in short bursts, but two hours almost 
non stop was a bit much. Or do they think we don't appreciate non-
dance EM ?

Toby

> Honestly, this drumming overkill is almost as annoying as
> TD's saxophone phase.
> 
> >Mat Mckenzie
> 
> Steven Feldman
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


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<MESSAGE index="39139">
From: 


'braddito <toby.braddick@u...>' <toby.braddick@u...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 18, 2003  11:14
am
Subject:  Re: Yet Another Review of the Astoria Gig!


I totally agree with Mat on this - the Sony studio recording is 
excellent, but a bit pricy at £20. One to look out for next time 
round if you haven't got it.

Toby

--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'loart24 <mat.mckenzie@O...>' 
<mat.mckenzie@O...> wrote:
> 
> The Sony Center is a nice item to have from a collecting point of 
> view, but the first 12 minutes are completely bland, dull and 
> forgettable.......which is a real shame as the final 5 minutes or 
so 
> of the CD is STUNNING!!!
> 
> 13 minutes into the cd comes an awesome chord melody which they did 
> live on saturday and it still makes the hairs stand up on my arms - 
> truly stunning, why could they not do a L O N G version of this ? 
> it's the kind of melodic genius found on the Legend sound track


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<MESSAGE index="39140">
From: 


tadreaming@c... 
Date:  Tue Feb 18, 2003  11:17
am
Subject:  The Download of TT3 Works Great!!


I just had to write that the download for TT3 is wonderful. I copied all 10 
SHN's and converted them to 17 CDr's all in one long night without any 
hitches. The downloads are fast, and so far they sound flawless. This is 
the best way to fly! No waiting compared to any other method, can this be 
done with the future TT's?

Very cool & Thank you,

Martyn C.


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<MESSAGE index="39141">
From: 
Dennis Nigbur <d.nigbur@s...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 18, 2003  11:37
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Bongo Betty (was Yet Another Review of the Astoria Gig!)


On 18 Feb 2003 at 5:14, Steven Feldman wrote:

> Eep. That's what 'happened' to the reissued OPTICAL RACE /
> LILY ON THE BEACH / MELROSE set: almost every single track has 
> some sort of drumming added to it if not actually bongoes -- 
> which do in fact appear.
> Honestly, this drumming overkill is almost as annoying as
> TD's saxophone phase.

I tend to agree, Steven. The thing is, some of TD's recent output has 
recovered so much of the familiar subtlety and melody that all that 
drumming just seems unnecessary. 

To a limited extent, it probably works live. Seriously, I doubt that some 
of the less pacey pieces of the late 70s and early 80s would combine 
very well with the Dream Mixes stuff if they didn't have the carpet-
drumming added on top. And which audience would settle down for a 
nice relaxed bit of 'Mysterious Semblance' after having been whipped 
up with 'Prime Time'?

Personally, I'd like them to play a small venue as a one-off, just 
performing the quieter stuff, from 'Fly and Collision of Comas Sola' to 
'The Red Blood Connection'. I like the more moody tunes.

Dennis

	
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<MESSAGE index="39142">
From: 
Dennis Nigbur <d.nigbur@s...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 18, 2003  1:50
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Yet Another Review of the Astoria Gig!


On 18 Feb 2003 at 8:57, loart24 mat.mckenzie@O... wrote:

> Lovely though she is, I felt that Iris or 'bongo betty' as we fondly
> referred to her as, seemed superfluous - having watched electronic
> bands for many years having nothing much doesn't bother me as you can
> then concentrate on the music and I don't think 'every' single track
> that was played really needed percussion on it, but there seemed a
> breakbeat behind all of them. Maybe some interesting lighting or
> visuals would be a better plan like the old days.

I thought the first half of the concert was extremely well balanced, but 
the bass and drumming got a tad relentless at some point during the 
second set. It would be interesting if TD decided at some point in the 
future to abandon their practice of showcasing soloists - or to bring in 
someone who can play keyboards as well as the solo instruments (like 
Linda Spa did).

> As for the mime argument, we couldn't really see EF & JF's hands where
> we were and judging by the guitarist there was a 'mixture' of live and
> straight off the hard disk. I guess the way we make music these days
> means you tend to compose the music, record it in your sequencer and
> playback is more a case of 'tweaking' and manipulating the sounds &
> sequences, perhaps with some live playing on top of the whole thing so
> I wouldn't knock them too much for that.

Agreed. The music that TD produce these days just cannot be played 
100% live. To do that, they'd either have to present very stripped down 
versions of their oeuvre - which many fans probably wouldn't like either 
- or go back to improvisation, which isn't likely to happen.

> Where we were upstairs we found the percussion / breakbeat drums
> seemed to drown out the melodic sequences which we were trying to
> hear, which is a shame as I always enjoyed the power of the clean
> crisp sounds on Exit and subtle chord changes on the quieter pieces,
> maybe thats the mixing desk controllers fault???

That's exactly the same problem I had at Shepherd's Bush 2001, but 
the people that had been downstairs said at the time that the sound 
had been great. So this time, I made a point of being on the ground 
floor, and that will be my practice for future TD gigs too.

> The Sony Center is a nice item to have from a collecting point of
> view, but the first 12 minutes are completely bland, dull and
> forgettable.......which is a real shame as the final 5 minutes or so
> of the CD is STUNNING!!!

Well, there I'll have to disagree. I thought the whole piece was such a 
creative, delicate piece of work that it would be a shame to reduce it to 
the final few minutes. I certainly don't regret spending the £20 on it.

Dennis

	
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<MESSAGE index="39143">
From: 


Falcon <falcon@r...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 18, 2003  2:03
pm
Subject:  Washington 77 (again)


Hi,

i know that there are 2 version of this concert, the original broadcast and 
a re-broadcast in 1986. Which one has the 'please send money' during the 
first 2 sets and which one has the intro and interludes (used on the TT 
version) ?

Ramon 


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<MESSAGE index="39144">
From: 
Shez <shez@a...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 18, 2003  9:47
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] That didn't take long


On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 12:51:49 +0000, you wrote:

>Hi shez,
>
>I won't bid, because I agree with you, but, as I wasn't there, how will I 
>get my 'The Keep' CD, shall I buy a pirate copy ??? Do you agree to sell me 
>yours for 20 £ ???

no, If I had a copy of 'The Keep' pirate or no, I will gladly share it
with anyone on this list.
But I don't have it sorry.


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39145">
From: 


'Bill Fox' <billfox@f...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 18, 2003  4:00
pm
Subject:  Orbital Decay at the Soundscapes Concert Series


The Soundscapes Concert Series
p r o u d l y p r e s e n t s
Orbital Decay
in an all ages concert of spacemusic
at the City of Bethlehem's IceHouse on Sand Island
Saturday, February 22, 2003
Concert at 8:00 pm, doors open at 7:00 pm
for a FREE Buffet Dinner by Chef Jeff
Tickets: $12 in advance and $15 at the door.
Tom Shaw will play relaxing ambient music
in the lobby before the show.

For the third installment of the Soundscapes Concert Series, Orbital Decay will
perform a concert at the City of Bethlehem's IceHouse on Sand Island. The
guitarist has changed since last year, making this an all new event. As a
special treat, local musician Tom Shaw will perform relaxing ambient music in
the lobby before the concert. Located in historic Bethlehem on the north bank
of the Lehigh River, the IceHouse provides the perfect venue for a concert of
spacemusic. This concert will be on Saturday, February 22, 2003, starting at
8:00 pm. The doors will open at 7:00 pm and Chef Jeff will cater a free
buffet dinner. Tickets are $12 in advance and $15 at the door. Advance
tickets are available at:

Compact Disc Center Speedy's Record Shop
1365 Easton Ave. 1001 Union Blvd.
Bethlehem, Pennsylvania Allentown, Pennsylvania
610-868-3070 610-432-8386

NOTE: There are no discounts on advance tickets. Tickets at the door will be
reduced by $3 for those who show their WDIY or WMUH membership cards or their
full-time student ID.

INFORMATION:

http://soundscapes.us


CONTACT:

Bill Fox
billfox@f...
610-746-9615


ORBITAL DECAY:

Orbital Decay consists of electric guitarist Scott Watkins and synthesist Terry
Furber of Quakertown, Pennsylvania, located north of Philadelphia and south of
Allentown/Bethlehem. Originally founded in 1979, the year when Skylab's orbit
decayed, returning it to Earth in a firey display, Terry and Scott formed a
band influenced by the likes of Tangerine Dream, Klaus Shulze, and Pink Floyd. 
Today, Terry and Scott make improvisational electronic space music with the
energy of fusion styles from the 1970s. This means that Orbital Decay charts
unexplored territory of sound and mood.

Terry Furber has the keyboard chops of a progressive rock keyboardist, enabling
him to play soaring synth solos over a classic Berlin School sequence. Yet he
can display the restraint required for a deep space excursion in the darker,
more introspective moments of his music. In addition to being a player, Terry
also builds and programs his own synthesizers and computers, sometimes using
older technology obtained at bargain basement prices. He then proceeds to
squeeze every ounce of music possible from his concoctions. An example of his
ability in this area is his minimoog and MOTM modular synth which was Keyboard
of the Month in Keyboard magazine.

Scott Watkins was another founding member of Orbital Decay. Due to other life
commitments, Scott had to leave the band temporarily, making way for Tim
Richardson who performed at last year's Orbital Decay performances at
Soundscapes and on WDIY's EMUSIC spacemusic program. Since then, Scott has
returned. Together with Terry, Scott, whose influences include Robert Fripp,
has performed twice on WXPN's Star's End spacemusic program and released three
self-produced albums featuring their prolific studio work.


TOM SHAW:

Tom Shaw is a rock and roller who has many facets. One facet is that of
ambient musician. Having played at a Stroudsburg art gallery, Tom returns to
Soundscapes for a second 'Show in the Lobby.'


COMING TO SOUNDSCAPES:
Belgian ambient musician vidnaObmana makes a rare North American concert tour,
making the Soundscapes Concert Series his major stop of the east coast. Please
mark Saturday, April 19, 2003 for this special event.


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<MESSAGE index="39146">
From: 


'bjoernsip <bjoernsip@g...>' <bjoernsip@g...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 18, 2003  5:54
pm
Subject:  Zlatko and 'Gölä'


Maybe a little bit off-topic, but I have added some infos of 
Zlatko´s 'TD-less' time in the swiss band of 'Gölä'. They were very 
successful and you can hear Zlatko having much fun on guitar.

Feel free to surf to Zlatkos page at

http://www.bjoernsip.de/bjoern/tangerine_dream/td_index.htm

Björn


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<MESSAGE index="39147">
From: 


'bert_hulshoff' <bert_hulshoff@y...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 18, 2003  9:48
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] TT3 SHN files available for download


Hello, I must say TT3 is even better than TT1 and TT2,
I just downloaded some SHN files and am now listening to volume 17 ,
real great stuff, even better than the original TD releases so far ;-)
The coverart is also great.

Thank's to everyone who made this trading possible.

Keep on Dreamin'

Bert

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Georg Oppenberg' <Georg.Oppenberg@g...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 1:57 PM
Subject: [tadream] TT3 SHN files available for download


> Hi,
>
> Michael Berling finished the SHN discs including cover and liner notes
> artwork and I was able to upload them to my server.
> The download server is ftp:\\tt.rondua.de. The access is via anonymous
> ftp (meaning user name is ftp and password is your email address).
> Have fun downloading!
>
> Cheers
> Georg
>
>
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From: 


'Scott' <splumer@w...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 18, 2003  9:10
pm
Subject:  Re: Astoria


So... who taped and are we going to tree it?

Scott


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From: 


<strat95@b...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  12:58
am
Subject:  1997 Keep artwork


Hello All,

By any chance, is there someone on this list that has a copy of the original
1997 release of the Keep? Someone with a scanner that might be willing to
scan and e-mail me as much of the artwork as possible??

Weird request, I know. Please humor this weird old guy.

Thanks
Neal


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From: 


Morgan Feldon <feldon@f...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  4:37
am
Subject:  Windows 2000


Just a P.S.

When's the last time you rebooted, John?

Last time here was 46 DAYS ago and the computer is still 100% stable and 
responsive like I just rebooted.

-Morgan


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From: 


Morgan Feldon <feldon@f...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  4:41
am
Subject:  TT3


>I just had to write that the download for TT3 is wonderful. I copied all 10
>SHN's and converted them to 17 CDr's all in one long night without any
>hitches. The downloads are fast, and so far they sound flawless. This is
>the best way to fly! No waiting compared to any other method, can this be
>done with the future TT's?
>
>Very cool & Thank you,
>
>Martyn C.

Agree 100%. Georg, I can't thank you enough for offering up your speedy 
connection for this.

-Morgan

P.S. I am not a branch for TT3 since I am still catching up on past 
projects. Got way in over my head. I admit it, I was a hypocrite.


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From: 


Morgan Feldon <feldon@f...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  4:35
am
Subject:  Windows 2000


>John Vertical:
>
>IMHO in OS's, and most basic program types, there has been no essential new
>additions since circa 1995. They've just fixed bugs and added new 'features'
>which will only annoy you or eat memory. (Graphics, video or other such
>things which need plenty of memory don't count.)
>
>Feel free to inform if I've missed something crucial but not very visible?

This is total and utter crap.

Windows 95, 98, ME, etc. were 100% 16-bit OSes. All the programs free reign 
to write to any part of memory they wanted. A poorly-behaving program can 
bring down the whole machine. Also, they were all tied to DOS, so the total 
number of system resources (GDI elements including buttons, icons, and 
graphic pointers, etc.) could not exceed 640kb. Windows 95/98/ME have 
absolutely no clue what to do when you throw more than 256MB at them. They 
just stare at you and say 'but I still can't run 20 copies of Internet 
Explorer'.

Anyone who has used 98 or ME for any period of time knows that after you 
USE the computer for about 72 hours, you have opened and closed various 
programs in sufficient quantity that the computer IS NOT and CAN NOT be 
restored to the 'fresh' state it was in when power was first applied to the 
computer.

The TCP/IP (internet stack) in Windows 95/98/ME is a toy. Any 
reconfiguration requires a reboot and there are all kinds of bottlenecks.


In contrast, Windows 2000 was a ground-up rewrite entire 32-bit code. 
Memory protection is absolute. There is no significant resource limit 
(although Microsoft Office 2002 and XP installed balls-to-the-wall with all 
the add-ons makes a damn good run at bringing down the machine -- I have 
Word 2000 and Excel 2000 in diaper mode).

Doubling the amount of RAM you have under Windows 2000 doubles the 
performance of the computer. Even after 2-3 weeks of running without a 
reboot, it is possible to get Windows 2000 back to the 'fresh' state it was 
in simply by closing all your programs. Windows 2000 is much faster than 98 
and its efficiency really goes up after you have been using it for a few 
hours and it makes itself 'comfortable'. Internet Explorer opens in 2-3 
seconds on even a modest system.

The TCP/IP stack in Windows 2000 was designed for networks. Slight 
reconfigurations take place without any disruption of service. Serious 
changes can be made to your network configuration and the TCP/IP stack 
itself unloads and reloads in about 20 seconds.

The rollout of Windows 2000 in business has brought support costs down to 
almost nil because it just runs and runs and runs with minimal problems.


My problem with XP is that it tries to marry everything I hate about ME and 
all this automatic crap with Windows 2000. If I were forced to use XP, it 
would take me 2 hours to strip out all the automatic/annoying settings, all 
the spyware/registerware it installs, and then I would need to crack the 
authentication/registration/authorization out of it. Someone needs to 
remind Microsoft that my computer does not have 'Property of Microsoft' 
stamped on it.

All these people who think Microsoft is a great financial institution and 
should not be forced to break up into 3 companies will be crying when there 
is a credit card slot on your PC in a few years or when the OS is $199 a 
year and you MUST upgrade (including hardware). I think people forget that 
Microsoft gets huge kickbacks from Intel for making the OS larger and 
larger with each revision, requiring stronger system resources.

Oh, isn't this the TD list? Course everyone thinks a forum is the devil or 
a sign of the 2nd coming or something. But if we had a forum, all the 
Astoria stuff could be in 1 place, with the Windows wars, Edgar/Jerome 
hairstyle, and miming discussion could be tucked under 'off-topic'. :)

-Morgan


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From: 


'poppa smurf' <kayleighsdad@h...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  5:25
am
Subject:  Downloads in SHN format


Hey all, just a quick question. I saw mention of downloads in SHN format,
regarding the 10 SHN Cds converted to 17 audios? Is this something new (FTP
server, etc) that I might have missed? I've had no luck whatsoever finding any
TD related download sites, and considering I'm now hooked to cable internet
(and LOVING IT), I'd never go back to dial-up, I've had a blast with various
download sites/programs including IRC and Kazaa, definately would love to hook
up with something like an FTP site.

Anyone with info, please e-mail me off the list? Thanks.

dan


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From: 


Heiko Heerssen <heiko.heerssen@h...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  7:57
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] TT3 SHN files available for download


> Hello, I must say TT3 is even better than TT1 and TT2,
> I just downloaded some SHN files and am now listening to volume 17 ,
> real great stuff, even better than the original TD releases so far ;-)

For each new Tree volume I always put my favourite recording at the beginning
(#1--> Nottingham 76, #2--> London 75, #3--> Berlin 80), and it really makes me
wonder why about 70 percent of the evening concert didn't make its way onto an
official TD release..it's so great!. It would sounded even better if I have had
the chance to use the reel-to-reel master recording for Volume 17 (what you
hear is a tape copy of it) , but unfortunately the person who recorded it in
Feb.1980 threw it away (!).

> The coverart is also great.

yeah :-)

Regarding the London Astoria concert, I have yet to hear an audience recording
of this show. I know that at least two different recordings do exist, but don't
know anything about the sound quality. Tthis morning on my way to work I was
humming 'Back in the U.S.S.R.', and it would be really nice to hear it again on
CD :-)

Heiko


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From: 


'Georg Oppenberg' <Georg.Oppenberg@g...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  8:26
am
Subject:  Re: The Download of TT3 Works Great!!


Hi Martyn,

I plan to host future Tangerine Trees as well on my server. I think I
have to remove some older files then, because the harddisc capacity is
limited, but till then everybody should have TT2.

I also want to thank Maff and Gustavo for the wonderful cover artwork. I
just printed all the covers (I haven't done that before, but the 26
discs became undistinctible (-: ) and the look stunning! 

Cheers
Georg

> I just had to write that the download for TT3 is wonderful. 
> I copied all 10 
> SHN's and converted them to 17 CDr's all in one long night 
> without any 
> hitches. The downloads are fast, and so far they sound 
> flawless. This is 
> the best way to fly! No waiting compared to any other 
> method, can this be 
> done with the future TT's?
> 
> Very cool & Thank you,
> 
> Martyn C.


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From: 


'Ralph Jessie' <Silverlock@s...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  2:21
am
Subject:  Hailing Morgan Feldon!


Hi All -

Sorry to bother the group, but I've been trying to reach Morgan Feldon for a
couple months now with no response. Morgan if you're out there - I've seen
you post to the list lately - please respond to this message. Thanks
everyone.

Ralph Jessie

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From: 


gary <frntrw@e...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 18, 2003  10:48
pm
Subject:  TT3 Tree


Hopefully somebody can answer this for me. I'm a branch on this tree. 
How can I contact my leafs? I see their names, but no e-mail address. 
Looks like only the suppliers have e-mail addy's listed. Am I looking in 
the wrong area?


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From: 


'Philippe Gibone' <pgibone@h...> 
Date:  Tue Feb 18, 2003  4:02
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] That didn't take long


>
>no, If I had a copy of 'The Keep' pirate or no, I will gladly share it
>with anyone on this list.
>But I don't have it sorry.
>

Thanks, but ... sharing IS piracy : whaddya think Edgar ?

Philippe (still not bidding ;-))

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From: 


edgar-rainer.berberich@g... 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  9:05
am
Subject:  Searching a copy of Classic Tree


I'm searching for a copy of Classic Tree all seven volumes, please contact
me off-list.


Mit freundlichem Grüßen / best regards

Edgar Rainer Berberich

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From: 


'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  9:58
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Windows 2000


>Windows 95, 98, ME, etc. were 100% 16-bit OSes....
<clip>
>The rollout of Windows 2000 in business has brought support costs down to
>almost nil because it just runs and runs and runs with minimal problems.


Okay, so basically they just made it more stable memory-vise. That's good.


>If I were forced to use XP, it
>would take me 2 hours to strip out all the automatic/annoying settings, all
>the spyware/registerware it installs, and then I would need to crack the
>authentication/registration/authorization out of it.
>
>All these people who think Microsoft is a great financial institution and
>should not be forced to break up into 3 companies will be crying when there
>is a credit card slot on your PC in a few years or when the OS is $199 a
>year and you MUST upgrade (including hardware). I think people forget that
>Microsoft gets huge kickbacks from Intel for making the OS larger and
>larger with each revision, requiring stronger system resources.


Yes, _this_ was what I meant; the new features are just eating memory. So 
Windows 2000 does handle memory more effeciently than the precursors. But 
are the hardware requirements any smaller..? Could one install it on a 386?

And about the new features. Since the invention of the mouse, there has been 
no hardware innovations that would really prove useful for everyone The 
speakers, you say? Yes, I am playing an mp3 of No Man's Land at the moment - 
but I could as well play it from a CD player. On the other hand, navigating 
around my desktop would be pretty awkward without a mouse.
--
I'm now viewing the updates list for Office XP. The only new feature that 
really seems to be of any use is the auto-crash recovery option, and even 
that would be of no use if people just could make a computer program which 
doesn't crash. The rest are options which an average user will very likely 
never use. Coloured calendar - sheesh, to how many people that supposed to 
be relevant?

I'd prefer that companies would _first_ create a stable, clear-to-use 
program, and only then start adding in optional gadgets... but they'd 
probably get less money that way. That' why we don't have a 60 years lasting 
lightbubl, either.

Suppose there's a chap who thinks that he doesn't need Office. How is he 
supposed to view all the Word documents stuffed with 'special features' 
which really don't have any information content? And all the big companies 
etc. use the newest version because 'it's the standard'. That's the problem 
here: standards full of useless stuff. Who sets them, anyway?

John Vertical

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From: 
Dennis Nigbur <d.nigbur@s...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  10:12
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] OT: Windows 2000


On 19 Feb 2003 at 11:58, John Vertical wrote:

> Suppose there's a chap who thinks that he doesn't need Office. How is
> he supposed to view all the Word documents stuffed with 'special
> features' which really don't have any information content? And all the
> big companies etc. use the newest version because 'it's the standard'.
> That's the problem here: standards full of useless stuff. Who sets
> them, anyway?

I really hope that the 'standard' of the future won't be another Microsoft 
rip-off, but something like PDF, which is cross-platform and preserves 
format without any fuss. The idea that .doc or .xls formats are silently 
assumed as the 'standard' to use when sending files to someone else 
strikes me as ludicrous when the only way to create documents in 
those formats is to have expensive software. Surely, something like 
OpenOffice.org should be the standard, since it's cross-platform and 
free rather than single-platform and expensive?

Dennis

	
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From: 


'David Wakefield' <yahoo@b...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  10:20
am
Subject:  CDR's


Does anyone have any recommendations on make of CDR's to use for 
the Tree CD's?

Ta Dave W

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'braddito <toby.braddick@u...>' <toby.braddick@u...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  12:21
pm
Subject:  Quinoa/ Lhasa & Seven Letters From Tibet


I recently bought Quinoa and like it very much. The sleeve notes 
refer to Lhasa as part of a Tibetan project, yet Lhasa is not listed 
on the SLFT track list. Does it appear under another name, or are the 
seven pieces on SLFT completely different ?

Regards
Toby


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From: 


'vic rek' <tangerinedream@a...> 
Date:  Sun Feb 16, 2003  12:49
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] The Jack Horner Club


Hi All,

It was an extreme pleasure to meet many of you at the pub and at the
concert. At one point I counted 24 fans at the pub (but I know I missed a
few heads), so overall it was a great showing. Everyone chatted, exchanged
various items in earlier arranged swaps, and took some photos. Heiko N. was
busily assembling the TT3 boxes sets for TD and I noticed that Duncan had
brought along a Video Tree chest - I was envious :-)

Also, the protest march didn't get in the way of reaching the Astoria, and
luckily my plane didn't get shot down on approach to Heathrow :-| Anyway,
maybe some of this news is a repeat, but I'm writing this email on a plane
and I don't know what other emails have been posted at this time.

As for some of the goodies for sale, I think there was plenty to go around,
even though I saw some of us snatching up box loads of the singles, The
Keeps and Sony Centers. I found out that the singles were numbered and that
the first 100 numbered copies were left in Berlin. So does anyone have one
numbered less than 100? I hope all the fans will be getting a single.

I'll be posting more on my impressions of the concert and photos, but not
until the end of the month since I'm in the middle of a move. So I have to
say that all the festivities of getting to/from the show and meeting the
fans, etc. is all part of the attraction of coming to a Tangerine Dream
show. I was there with some fans that have been coming to see TD in the UK
since the very first 1974 shows!

It was great to see ya'll there! I hope everyone else has wonderful memories
of the Tangerine Dream experience. So, will TD be back next year???...
Vic

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Paul Fellows' <pfellows@c...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 4:07 AM
Subject: Re: [tadream] The Jack Horner Club


> Updated list of people going to the TD gig at the London Astoria 15/2/03:
>
> 'Billy the Fish' (Tommy Brown?) (Stephen Manship?) must be MI5 this guy
:-)
> Alan Miller
> Alistair Hull
> Brian Stewart
> Chris & Jan Wojtecki
> Chris Hodgson
> Chris Owen
> Colin Jouxson
> Conrad Gibbons & Finnish friend
> David Wakefield
> Duncan McKee
> 'Fozzie Bear' (David) & Carol
> Gary Jenkins & relation
> Giuseppe Milazzo
> Heiko Heerssen
> Heiko Neumann & wife
> Jim Moore
> Jorg Jank
> Matthew Stringer
> Olav Neander
> Rainer Rutka
> Steve King
> Toby Braddick
> Vic Rek
>
> That's 29, maybe someone had better warn the pub :-)
>
> Looking forward to meeting you all,
>
> Paul
>
>
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From: 


Heiko Heerssen <heiko.heerssen@h...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  12:54
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] The Jack Horner Club


> Heiko N. was busily assembling the TT3 boxes <snip>

it was Heiko H. ;-)

> .. and I noticed that Duncan had brought along a Video Tree chest - I was
> envious :-)

me too, it looked marvellous and very professional. Next time I expect the same
sort of present from Edgar.. some old live tapes from 1975/76 concerts maybe?
;-)

> Also, the protest march didn't get in the way of reaching the Astoria, and
> luckily my plane didn't get shot down on approach to Heathrow :-|

The only delay I experienced was the passport control on Sunday at the Hamburg
Airport...

> I found out that the singles were numbered and that
> the first 100 numbered copies were left in Berlin. So does anyone have one
> numbered less than 100? I hope all the fans will be getting a single.

my lowest number was somewhere around 210..


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From: 


'michaeljean@e...' <michaeljean@e...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  1:15
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Quinoa/ Lhasa & Seven Letters From Tibet


I think I just appears under a different name. Though I can;t tell you
which one off hand.

Original Message:
-----------------
From: braddito toby.braddick@u...
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 12:21:06 -0000
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] Quinoa/ Lhasa & Seven Letters From Tibet


I recently bought Quinoa and like it very much. The sleeve notes 
refer to Lhasa as part of a Tibetan project, yet Lhasa is not listed 
on the SLFT track list. Does it appear under another name, or are the 
seven pieces on SLFT completely different ?

Regards
Toby


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From: 


Rainer Rutka <rainer@k...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  1:21
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] The Jack Horner Club


> > I found out that the singles were numbered and that
> > the first 100 numbered copies were left in Berlin. So does anyone have one
> > numbered less than 100? I hope all the fans will be getting a single.
> my lowest number was somewhere around 210..
I got 112 and so on...

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From: 
Dennis Nigbur <d.nigbur@s...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  3:31
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Quinoa/ Lhasa & Seven Letters From Tibet


I think it was said that 'The Blue Pearl' (I hope that's the one, but it's a 
long piece that quite obviously consists of several segments) is a re-
working of Lhasa. But I don't have the later edition of Quinoa to 
compare the two.

Dennis

On 19 Feb 2003 at 12:21, braddito toby.braddick@u... wrote:

> I recently bought Quinoa and like it very much. The sleeve notes refer
> to Lhasa as part of a Tibetan project, yet Lhasa is not listed on the
> SLFT track list. Does it appear under another name, or are the seven
> pieces on SLFT completely different ?
> 
> Regards
> Toby
> 
> 
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From: 


quarlie@a... 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  3:49
pm
Subject:  OT: Re: Hardware innovations


johnvertical@h... wrote:

>And about the new features. Since the invention of the mouse, there has been
>no hardware innovations that would really prove useful for everyone The
>speakers, you say? Yes, I am playing an mp3 of No Man's Land at the moment -
>but I could as well play it from a CD player. On the other hand, navigating
>around my desktop would be pretty awkward without a mouse.

No universally useful hardware innovations since the mouse? How about the 
CD-ROM drive (and since then, CD-R/RW, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, etc.), the LCD screen 
(takes less space and uses less power - that's beneficial to everybody), or 
wireless networking? Or cable and DSL?

Also, you seem to be saying that MP3s aren't really any more useful than CDs. 
Thanks to MP3s, I was able to take my entire music collection (legally ripped 
from CDs I own) with me on my laptop when I spent a semester in Japan last 
year. I didn't have to bring a single audio CD with me. (Brought plenty of 
them BACK, but that's another story.) So I would argue that MP3s are 
significantly useful to anyone who wants to hear their music in more than one 
place.

Sorry for the OT post, but at least it's not Doctor Who. ;)

--Daniel
NP: Dead Can Dance - 1981-1998


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From: 


'tei waz' <teiwazbarana@h...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  4:34
pm
Subject:  hypocrite


>-Morgan

P.S. I am not a branch for TT3 since I am still catching up on past
projects. Got way in over my head. I admit it, I was a hypocrite.<

ahem, so does that mean my branches may actually soon see their copies of 
what they need from the classic tree, so someday I may be able to get mine?

--T


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<MESSAGE index="39173">
From: 


'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  6:36
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] OT: Re: Hardware innovations


>No universally useful hardware innovations since the mouse? How about the
>CD-ROM drive (and since then, CD-R/RW, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, etc.), the LCD 
>screen
>(takes less space and uses less power - that's beneficial to everybody), or
>wireless networking? Or cable and DSL?
>
>Also, you seem to be saying that MP3s aren't really any more useful than 
>CDs.
>Thanks to MP3s, I was able to take my entire music collection (legally 
>ripped
>from CDs I own) with me on my laptop when I spent a semester in Japan last
>year. I didn't have to bring a single audio CD with me. (Brought plenty of
>them BACK, but that's another story.) So I would argue that MP3s are
>significantly useful to anyone who wants to hear their music in more than 
>one
>place.
>
>Sorry for the OT post, but at least it's not Doctor Who. ;)
>
>--Daniel
>NP: Dead Can Dance - 1981-1998


Looking again at my post, it looks sort of ridiculous...

I meant something more in the sense of something completely _new_, not just 
improved versions of old inventions - floppies, dial-up modems, etc.
Of course technology progresses. I'd be silly to claim othervice. But could 
it once in a while progress onto a new level instead of putting a prettier 
carpet on the level we're currently on? For example, I'd love to actually 
see one of those 3D printers I've read about in science magazines for what, 
five years?

About mp3s, I don't have a laptop so I don't have access to that sort of 
pleasures. They're still only entertainment though...

John Vertical

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<MESSAGE index="39174">
From: 


'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  6:49
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] OT: MS OS


>The fact is that people keep moaning about software getting larger and
>requiring more power to run it, but who's forcing you to buy? No one. If
>you need the latest software, then you obligated to buy powerful enough
>hardware to run it. As a consumer, no-one is forced to buy anything they
>don't want. Doesn't it make sense to look at each purchase, see what 
>impact
>it may have on other related software/hardware, and then cost justify it?
>I'll leave you to ponder...
>
>Ray


(I'll port this to the tadream list since the topic seems to be tolerated at 
the moment, and it's easier to keep up if it's only on one list)

Perhaps nobody is directly forcing you to buy new software, but there's 
*plenty* of indirect persuasion. New programs don't support older OS's or 
other programs, and vice versa. This way, it's practically impossible to 
have two 'big' programs on one computer if one is 15 years older than the 
other one.

I've heard of a guy who's perfectly happy with Mac OS 6.0 from way back when 
(late 80s? dunno, I was in kindergarten back then) but he's annoyed because 
he still likes surfing the net and cannot find any way to do that with the 
old system.
If you only want one new feature on an old computer, you'll need the whole 
update rumba. Not good.
Suppose that you'd need to change your house's electricity lines and the 
fridge, TV, coffee machine etc. every circa 5 years, because all new 
household applications would have new types of plugs, and there would be 
only a very limited amount of conversion plugs. How long of this you'd guess 
it would take to get people rioting?

John Vertical

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<MESSAGE index="39175">
From: 


'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  6:28
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Windows 2000


There are some memory leaks if you leave things open, like IE all the time.
If you watch your task manager closely you can see these things. Programmers
who are in top notch companies know about this and write code that takes
care of these little problems. Most of the time we all first blame the OS
for the problem when in fact it was the program we were using.

There exists this also nagging problem with MS. They know the hooks and
features which they do not always make know to other companies. Just to keep
the blame on a equal share. It has been hard for me and several companies I
work for in various ways to get a good product out with this lack of info.

It is getting better. I have seen great improvements in the little know
facts being made public which has in turn created a more stable system for
all of us.

Most advance software is written in C. VB works fine for average things. But
if you wish to control the memory problems and actually make the hooks into
the OS, you got to use C. I don't know many who use assembly anymore expect
in the military, which is another world from music issues.

dale

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Morgan Feldon' <feldon@f...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 8:37 PM
Subject: [tadream] Windows 2000


> Just a P.S.
>
> When's the last time you rebooted, John?
>
> Last time here was 46 DAYS ago and the computer is still 100% stable and
> responsive like I just rebooted.
>
> -Morgan
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
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> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


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<MESSAGE index="39176">
From: 


'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  6:56
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Windows 2000


some rant then

Morgan said :
Edgar/Jerome hairstyle, and miming discussion could be tucked under
'off-topic'. :)

-Morgan

OK, Do you think Edgar is loosing some of his hair? Turning a tad gray?
I think I saw some gray showing in Jerome's hair on a album cover.

;-)

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From: 
'Matthew Stringer' <qube@f...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  7:38
pm
Subject:  Sony


How much was the Sony disc at the concert?

M@


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<MESSAGE index="39178">
From: 
'Matthew Stringer' <qube@f...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  7:27
pm
Subject:  Jerome


Why did he change his jacket for 1 track and then change it back again?


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<MESSAGE index="39179">
From: 


'Glenn Folkvord \(Hyperion Media\)' <glenn@f...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  8:44
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] CDR's


Maybe this will help you. More important than brand is manufacturer. Mitsui
has been recommended as a manufacturer by CDR experts, but they dont sell as
their own brand.

glenn


----- Original Message -----
From: 'David Wakefield' <yahoo@b...>


> Does anyone have any recommendations on make of CDR's to use for
> the Tree CD's?
>
> Ta Dave W


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<MESSAGE index="39180">
From: 


Antonio Nunes <hyperborean@m...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  9:07
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] CDR's


'Glenn Folkvord (Hyperion Media)' wrote:
> 
> Maybe this will help you. More important than brand is manufacturer. Mitsui
> has been recommended as a manufacturer by CDR experts, but they dont sell as
> their own brand.

What do you mean, they dont sell as their own brand? I have in front of
me a CDR box saying 'Mitsui golden dye - silver 24x CD-R 700MB'. I've
just tested one of these CDRs using the software CDR Media Code
Identifier, and it says: Disc Manufacturer: Mitsui Toatsu Chemicals,
Inc.

Anyway, I recommend Mitsui CDRs, or any other known brand. Avoid
'Princo' or unbranded CDRs. I've received recently 2 unbranded audio
CDRs which my CD player refuses to recognize. My PC recognizes them
though.

Antonio Nunes

np: TD - Quinoa


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<MESSAGE index="39181">
From: 


Morgan Feldon <feldon@f...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  9:12
pm
Subject:  SHN Guide


Since Tangerine Tree 3 is getting into full swing, I'd like to remind about 
the SHN Guide I produced specifically for knowing what SHN files are, why 
we use them, and how to deal with them and turn them back into normal music 
CDs...

http://www.feldoncentral.com/tdtree/shnguide/


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<MESSAGE index="39182">
From: 


'Administrator' <admin@k...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  9:20
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] SHN Guide


thanks
I was going to email you for this link later today

dale


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Morgan Feldon' <feldon@f...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 1:12 PM
Subject: [tadream] SHN Guide


> Since Tangerine Tree 3 is getting into full swing, I'd like to remind
about
> the SHN Guide I produced specifically for knowing what SHN files are, why
> we use them, and how to deal with them and turn them back into normal
music
> CDs...
>
> http://www.feldoncentral.com/tdtree/shnguide/
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


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<MESSAGE index="39183">
From: 


'Paul Dryden' <paulus.d@f...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  9:22
pm
Subject:  Classic Tree-question


Just got classic but have question, at the end of 20th century serenades, what
is the name of that track?
is it a TD single?- 20th century man?

A bit late but a review coming soon...
Paulus.d


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<MESSAGE index="39184">
From: 


ampmusic <info@a...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  9:31
pm
Subject:  Re; a London concert, next Saturday


'Music for the 3rd Millennium' 2003 concerts
No. 1 of 10. London, Saturday February 22nd

St. Cyprian's Church, Glentworth St, London NW1, 7.30pm-10.00pm
Tube; Baker Street (2 minutes). Tickets; £5 on the door

An all-female lineup;
AKEMI KUNIYOSHI (Japan, grand piano) CD launch
ALQUIMIA (*) (Mexico, voice & synthesizers) Unreleased material
C LOOPSEEND (Noriko Uno, Japan, electronics/
Karin Gunnersson, Sweden, voice) CD preview

Forthcoming dates; Modulus, White Noise, Harald Grosskopf &
Steve Baltes, A Rainbow In Curved Air, and further artists TBA

(*) Kevin Bacon connections;
Alquimia has recorded with H-J Roedelius, who was in Kluster with
Conrad Schnitzler, who was in Tangerine Dream;
and also with Steve Baltes, who is in Ashra with Manuel Gottsching,
who was in Ash Ra Tempel with Klaus Schulze.


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From: 


'mad4rock75 <toby@b...>' <toby@b...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  9:44
pm
Subject:  Re; a London concert, next Saturday


I can't make this show, but can you post the dates of the other shows 
so I can see if I can get to some of the others ?

Toby

--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, ampmusic <info@a...> wrote:
> 'Music for the 3rd Millennium' 2003 concerts
> No. 1 of 10. London, Saturday February 22nd
> 
> St. Cyprian's Church, Glentworth St, London NW1, 7.30pm-10.00pm
> Tube; Baker Street (2 minutes). Tickets; £5 on the door
> 
> 
> Forthcoming dates; Modulus, White Noise, Harald Grosskopf &
> Steve Baltes, A Rainbow In Curved Air, and further artists TBA


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39186">
From: 


'mad4rock75 <toby@b...>' <toby@b...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  9:46
pm
Subject:  Re: Sony


GBP20.00 - a bit pricy for 18 minutes but a very enjoyable 
composition imo.

Toby

--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'Matthew Stringer' <qube@f...> wrote:
> How much was the Sony disc at the concert?
> 
> M@


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<MESSAGE index="39187">
From: 


'Debra Wilson' <the_singing_goat@a...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  9:27
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] CDR's


no name cds have given me the best of luck. seems like when I buy the 'good'
ones they all turn into coasters..lol.

Debra Wilson
Billy-Bob's Boers, Percentage Meat Goats in SoCal
http://home.att.net/~billybobsboers/index.html
AudioGalaxy, For All Your P2P Needs
http://home.att.net/~audiogalaxy/index.html


-----Original Message-----
From: Antonio Nunes [mailto:hyperborean@m...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 1:07 PM
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tadream] CDR's


'Glenn Folkvord (Hyperion Media)' wrote:
>
> Maybe this will help you. More important than brand is manufacturer.
Mitsui
> has been recommended as a manufacturer by CDR experts, but they dont sell
as
> their own brand.

What do you mean, they dont sell as their own brand? I have in front of
me a CDR box saying 'Mitsui golden dye - silver 24x CD-R 700MB'. I've
just tested one of these CDRs using the software CDR Media Code
Identifier, and it says: Disc Manufacturer: Mitsui Toatsu Chemicals,
Inc.

Anyway, I recommend Mitsui CDRs, or any other known brand. Avoid
'Princo' or unbranded CDRs. I've received recently 2 unbranded audio
CDRs which my CD player refuses to recognize. My PC recognizes them
though.

Antonio Nunes

np: TD - Quinoa


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<MESSAGE index="39188">
From: 


Volkmar Friauf <colognese@g...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  9:17
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Sony


At 20:38 19.02.2003, 'Matthew Stringer' <qube@f...>wrote:
>How much was the Sony disc at the concert?

£20, as was 'The Keep'.


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39189">
From: 


Morgan Feldon <feldon@f...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  10:37
pm
Subject:  Windows 2000 (completely OT)


>Yes, _this_ was what I meant; the new features are just eating memory. So
>Windows 2000 does handle memory more effeciently than the precursors. But
>are the hardware requirements any smaller..? Could one install it on a 386?

Considering a complete 1200 MHz Athlon or P4 system can be purchased for 
$400, I think we'll leave Linux to the 386's. And for the people who say 
'look how great Linux is, it fits on a couple of floppies and runs on a 
386. That's because it's not actually doing anything! If Linux tried to do 
everything Windows 2000 does, it would be at least 100 MB.

Windows 2000 DOES require more memory than 98. A LOT more. Win2k runs fine 
on a 500 MHz+ system provided you have 128MB of memory or more. Since a 
128MB stick of memory is $20, I don't think this is too unreasonable a request.

>And about the new features. Since the invention of the mouse, there has been
>no hardware innovations that would really prove useful for everyone The
>speakers, you say? Yes, I am playing an mp3 of No Man's Land at the moment -
>but I could as well play it from a CD player.

Well, I have 70% of my TD collection in a 4' x 3' x 1' box, it's called a 
Creative Nomad Zen. It's like an iPod but $200 less and no limitations on 
copying music to and from it (and it has a USB port!). I like having my 
entire music collection on my PC and in this portable box so I can leave 
trusted CDs in storage or in the closet. I can compare 2 tracks to each 
other in real-time.

>On the other hand, navigating
>around my desktop would be pretty awkward without a mouse.

As for computer pointing devices, you're right, we haven't seen anything 
dramatic here. There are finally decent optical (no mouse ball/cleaning) 
mice for $14. I am surprised that more people do not have a touch screen on 
their PC. Touch screens are now very cheap and very accurate. I would not 
mind navigating my PC with a combination of touch screen and typing. Voice 
recognition is not getting better because the 2 major companies that really 
had the talent and tenacity are down the tubes...

http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,55236,00.html
(searched for 5 min, couldn't find an article they had LAST WEEK about how 
the 2 professors who developed Dragon Naturally Speaking now have no 
ownership of the software they wrote).


I am waiting, as i think many people are, to have physical interaction with 
the data. I think the first steps will be laser sensor systems where you 
have a 8' x 8' black box with mirrors inside and you stick your hand inside 
and each gesture gets a different result. Then the next will be gloves.

>I'm now viewing the updates list for Office XP. The only new feature that
>really seems to be of any use is the auto-crash recovery option, and even
>that would be of no use if people just could make a computer program which
>doesn't crash.

Agreed. Well, Office XP is bloatware to the extreme. I have no plan to 
install it. Between Windows 2000 and a UPS (uninterrupted power supply-- 
you can get a 10 minute one for $40 at CompUSA these days), there's no 
reason Office should EVER crash.

>I'd prefer that companies would _first_ create a stable, clear-to-use
>program, and only then start adding in optional gadgets... but they'd
>probably get less money that way.

Some companies DO operate this way. Unfortunately even my beloved Adobe is 
guilty of this problem. Photoshop 3.0, 4.0, 5.0, 5.5, and 6.0 have all 
shipped with serious bugs that cause instability. Fortunately, the .1 
releases were all swift in coming, 2-3 weeks later.

The main reason I complain about XP is that it is simply too much stuff to 
debug. If it were just an OS, that's one thing, but they try to manage the 
software drivers of other companies (their choice of nVidia drivers was 
appalling across-the-board -- 12.90?!?! you gotta be kidding me!), they try 
to manage these photo/scanner handling programs, CD burning programs (they 
picked Adaptec by process of elimination?!?!), a web browser (IE 6 was 
written specifically for XP), MSN Instant Messenger, MSN .NET, MSN 
Passport, etc. etc. etc. It's just too much. If XP were just an OS instead 
of all of this, it might be possible to have a good OS.

Which brings me back to 2000. It is the simplicity of Windows 98 with all 
the memory management/stability problems erased. It doesn't try to be this 
latest-and-greatest OS.

>Suppose there's a chap who thinks that he doesn't need Office. How is he
>supposed to view all the Word documents stuffed with 'special features'
>which really don't have any information content? And all the big companies
>etc. use the newest version because 'it's the standard'.

I don't understand why Microsoft does not make files that are backwards 
compatible. Look at Adobe Photoshop. Each version piles on huge new 
capabilities, all very important to the customers and people using it for 
serious work. But you can still open a Photoshop 7 file in Photoshop 3 or 4.

-Morgan


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<MESSAGE index="39190">
From: 


Morgan Feldon <feldon@f...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  10:41
pm
Subject:  Windows 2000 (completely OT)


>>Yes, _this_ was what I meant; the new features are just eating memory. So
>>Windows 2000 does handle memory more effeciently than the precursors. But
>>are the hardware requirements any smaller..? Could one install it on a 386?
>
>Considering a complete 1200 MHz Athlon or P4 system can be purchased for 
>$400, I think we'll leave Linux to the 386's. And for the people who say 
>'look how great Linux is, it fits on a couple of floppies and runs on a 
>386. That's because it's not actually doing anything! If Linux tried to do 
>everything Windows 2000 does, it would be at least 100 MB.

Yes, I'm replying to myself. :)

Just to add, Linux is great for certain things. I would not host a website 
or do development of websites and database access on anything else. But to 
get Linux to do everything Windows 2000 does, you'd have to load almost as 
much stuff and probably recompile the kernel a few dozen times. Probably a 
good place to stop here. :) We haven't bashed anything yet (I hope). Linux 
is great, just not for my needs as a business OS.

-Morgan


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<MESSAGE index="39191">
From: 


Jorge Figueiredo <jorgefig@e...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  10:44
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] TT3 SHN files available for download


Thanks Georg for the excellent ftp site.

I downloaded TT3 and, although I haven't heard everything, all I can say 
is WOW!
A round of applause for everyone involved!

Cheers,

Jorge Figueiredo

((> TD - TT3 volume 19 - Paris 1976 <))


On 2/17/2003 12:57 PM, Georg Oppenberg wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Michael Berling finished the SHN discs including cover and liner notes
> artwork and I was able to upload them to my server. 
> The download server is ftp:\\tt.rondua.de. The access is via anonymous
> ftp (meaning user name is ftp and password is your email address). 
> Have fun downloading!
> 
> Cheers
> Georg


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<MESSAGE index="39192">
From: 


'Marcel Engels' <mengels@w...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  10:13
pm
Subject:  tt3 ftp


Just want to say: wow what a great connection!
I'm downloading TT3 at max download speed here (85KB/s).
This is the way to distribute TT3.
Thanks Georg.

Marcel
http://home.wanadoo.nl/mengels
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<MESSAGE index="39193">
From: 


'Chris Owen' <chris@o...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  7:07
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Classic Tree-question


Paulus, the last track on 20th Century Serenades is called A Time For
Heroes, which TD recorded for the 1988 (I think) paralympics. If I remember
correctly, it was not written by TD. Yes, it appeared on a single, along
with other artists. I'm sure someone else can give more details than this.

- Chris

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Dryden <paulus.d@f...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 1:22 PM
Subject: [tadream] Classic Tree-question


> Just got classic but have question, at the end of 20th century serenades,
what is the name of that track?
> is it a TD single?- 20th century man?
>
> A bit late but a review coming soon...
> Paulus.d
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
>
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>


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<MESSAGE index="39194">
From: 


'Glenn Folkvord \(Hyperion Media\)' <glenn@f...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  11:36
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] CDR's


----- Original Message -----
From: 'Antonio Nunes' <hyperborean@m...>

> What do you mean, they dont sell as their own brand? I have in front of
> me a CDR box saying 'Mitsui golden dye - silver 24x CD-R 700MB'.

Ah, OK, then I was misinformed.

> Anyway, I recommend Mitsui CDRs, or any other known brand. Avoid
> 'Princo' or unbranded CDRs. I've received recently 2 unbranded audio
> CDRs which my CD player refuses to recognize. My PC recognizes them
> though.

What I tried to say was that it is not necessarily the brand that determines
the quality. It is the manufacturer. The brands buy CDRs from different
manufactureres so one day you can get Princo or unbranded brands from the
same factory that produce discs for Maxell or TDK, and the discs are the
same, just the labelling that is different. The brand has virtually nothing
to do with the quality.

I intended originally to include this url: http://www.mscience.com/faq.html

glenn


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39195">
From: 


Antonio Nunes <hyperborean@m...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  11:50
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] CDR's


'Glenn Folkvord (Hyperion Media)' wrote:
> 
> What I tried to say was that it is not necessarily the brand that determines
> the quality. It is the manufacturer.

Yes, I agree. And the software I mentioned in my previous message (CDR
Media Code Identifier) is very useful to find out the manufacturer of
any CDR. You can download it from http://www.gum.de/cdrid

Antonio Nunes


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39196">
From: 


'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  11:53
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] TT3 Tree


From: 'gary' <frntrw@e...>


> Hopefully somebody can answer this for me. I'm a branch on this tree.
> How can I contact my leafs? I see their names, but no e-mail address.
> Looks like only the suppliers have e-mail addy's listed. Am I looking in
> the wrong area?


If you note down the names of your leaves and search the other databases on the
group (TT2, TT3 signup) and the tree structures for TT1 here
http://www.tadream.net/tree/AlphaName.htm and TT2 here
http://www.tadream.net/tree/TT2/tt2-final.pdf you should be able to track down
the information.

Your leaves should probably be contacting you, though.


Maff


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39197">
From: 


Kees Aerts / Groove Unlimited <kees@g...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  11:22
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Classic Tree-question


At 23:07 19-2-03 -0800, you wrote:
>Paulus, the last track on 20th Century Serenades is called A Time For
>Heroes, which TD recorded for the 1988 (I think) paralympics. If I remember
>correctly, it was not written by TD.

Correct. It's written by Jon Lyons.

>Yes, it appeared on a single, along
>with other artists. I'm sure someone else can give more details than this.

The vocal version on the single was by Meatloaf with Brian May of Queen.


Best regards / Vriendelijke groeten,

Kees

GROOVE Unlimited (Specializing in Electronic Music)
Kees Aerts
PO Box 2171
8203 AD Lelystad
The Netherlands
Phone: +31 (0) 320 219496 ; Fax: +31 (0) 320 218910
http://www.groove.nl


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39198">
From: 


Bradley Duke/Cambridge/IBM <bradley_duke@u...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  12:13
am
Subject:  Not Fair


Hi,

Not to sound like too much of a baby..
but IT'S NOT FAIR THAT ONLY THE FOLKS WHO MADE IT TO THE GIG GOT TO PARTAKE
IN THE GOODIES.
I need/want all three of those cd's (Keep, Sony, Astoria) and now I'm going
to have to resort to paying up the ying yang for them on Ebay.

Angered in America.
Brad


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39199">
From: 


'Jim Moore' <moxica@a...> 
Date:  Wed Feb 19, 2003  11:13
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] tt3 ftp


I got up to 120Kbps the other night -- awesome! Now to refill the printer
ink for the labels...

-----Original Message-----
From: Marcel Engels [mailto:mengels@w...] 

Just want to say: wow what a great connection!
I'm downloading TT3 at max download speed here (85KB/s).
This is the way to distribute TT3.
Thanks Georg.

Marcel


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39200">
From: 


'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  12:35
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] tt3 ftp


From: 'Jim Moore' <moxica@a...>

> I got up to 120Kbps the other night -- awesome! Now to refill the printer
> ink for the labels...


I ran off two copies of the TT3 cover art recently, and my Epson C80 printer
managed to go through 4 cartridges and nearly £50 worth of ink.

Consequentally, I'd like to announce that the covers for TT4 will consist of
very stylish all-white graphics with white text. Not quite as nice to look at,
but we'll all save a small fortune when it comes time to print them.


Maff


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39201">
From: 


Robert Grabowsky <hghlndr@t...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  1:37
am
Subject:  CHEAP INK CARTRIDGES


OK folks PAY ATTENTION:

For those of you with HP, CANON, or EPSON printers check out these 2 websites:

www.allstarinkjet.com

www.meritline.com

Both have replacement cartridges CHEAP. They are not factory but they are
identical to the ones you use and the ink is good quality. I have been
using allstarinkjet and a friend of mine has been using meritline. We are
happy with both and they also run specials on combos of color and black
cartridges. No refilling or anything like that.

Both companies have outstanding service too.

BTW, I do not get anything for this endorsement. I am just passing on
information for cheap ink.

THE HIGHLANDER


At 12:35 AM 2/20/03 -0000, you wrote:
>From: 'Jim Moore' <moxica@a...>
>
>> I got up to 120Kbps the other night -- awesome! Now to refill the printer
>> ink for the labels...
>
>
>I ran off two copies of the TT3 cover art recently, and my Epson C80 printer
>managed to go through 4 cartridges and nearly £50 worth of ink.
>


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39202">
From: 


'Jim Moore' <moxica@a...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  1:49
am
Subject:  TDP?


I noticed that the Astoria CD was manufactured by TD*P* instead of TDI. Has
the company name changed?

__________________________________________________
Jim Moore, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
moxica@a...


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39203">
From: 


'Jim Moore' <moxica@a...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  1:49
am
Subject:  RE: [tadream] tt3 ftp


I didn't mean for that to sound like a complaint -- I splurge a bit when
making the covers (using glossy paper and the like). The series so far have
been nothing short of gorgeous, and I wouldn't mind seeing it continue!

- jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Sawyer [mailto:matthewsawyer@b...] 

From: 'Jim Moore' <moxica@a...>

> I got up to 120Kbps the other night -- awesome! Now to refill the
printer
> ink for the labels...

I ran off two copies of the TT3 cover art recently, and my Epson C80 printer
managed to go through 4 cartridges and nearly £50 worth of ink.

Consequentally, I'd like to announce that the covers for TT4 will consist of
very stylish all-white graphics with white text. Not quite as nice to look
at, but we'll all save a small fortune when it comes time to print them.


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39204">
From: 


'Jim Moore' <moxica@a...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  2:00
am
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Not Fair


Don't sweat it, Brad -- I know that a few of the people on this list picked
up extra copies for trading/selling and I'm sure some of them will be
reasonable about any transaction. 

- jim 

----------------
From: Bradley Duke/Cambridge/IBM [mailto:bradley_duke@u...] 
Not to sound like too much of a baby..
but IT'S NOT FAIR THAT ONLY THE FOLKS WHO MADE IT TO THE GIG GOT TO PARTAKE
IN THE GOODIES. I need/want all three of those cd's (Keep, Sony, Astoria)
and now I'm going to have to resort to paying up the ying yang for them on
Ebay.

Angered in America.


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39205">
From: 


Robert Grabowsky <hghlndr@t...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  2:56
am
Subject:  B5 Episodic Question


What is the flaw in the first run of the B5 Episodic CD for 'A Late
Delivery From Avalon'?

I have one still sealed and have forgotten. I am thinking about posting
it on Ebay unless someone here wants to make me an offer before I do that.

THE HIGHLANDER

	
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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39206">
From: 


Morgan Feldon <feldon@f...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  3:13
am
Subject:  1987.08.01 Tracklist


Correct me if I'm wrong, but.

[[[20th Century Serenades]]]
Livemiles Berlin pt 1
Smile
Ride on a Ray
Going West
Yellowstone Park
Tyger
Tiergarten
21st Century Man
Time for Heroes

[[Antarktis]]
Livemiles 'albuquerque part' pt 2
Dolphin Smile
Civilized Illusions (Shy People OST)
Betrayal & Diamond Diary
Love On A Real Train
Canyon Voices
Zen Garden
Scuba Scuba
Piano solo
Dolphin Dance

(1990 Bristol bonus tracks)
Betrayal-Sorcerer
Diamond Diary
Love on a Real Train


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39207">
From: 


Chris Richards <kohntarkosz@y...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  3:39
am
Subject:  Re: TT2 and TT3 downloads


<< The download server is ftp:\\tt.rondua.de. The

access is via anonymous
> ftp (meaning user name is ftp and password is 
your email address). 
> Have fun downloading!>>


After some initial difficulty in connecting (my
first attempt returned 'Host not found'
response), I tried a second time, I'm downloading
TT2. Looking forward to listening to this stuff
when I'm done! Thanks to whoever it is who has
graciously posted this material on his/her
server!!!!! :-) 

=====
May you never thirst!
The Scuba Diver Presently Known As Chris

'What do you get when you give a yo-yo to a flock of flamingos?'-James Earl
Jones

__________________________________________________
Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more
http://taxes.yahoo.com/

	
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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39208">
From: 


ampmusic <info@a...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  4:22
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Digest Number 1697


> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 21:44:55 -0000
> From: 'mad4rock75 <toby@b...>'
<toby@b...>
> Subject: Re; a London concert, next Saturday
>
> I can't make this show, but can you post the dates of the other shows
> so I can see if I can get to some of the others ?
>
> Toby
>
> --- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, ampmusic <info@a...> wrote:
> > 'Music for the 3rd Millennium' 2003 concerts
> > No. 1 of 10. London, Saturday February 22nd
> >
> > St. Cyprian's Church, Glentworth St, London NW1, 7.30pm-10.00pm
> > Tube; Baker Street (2 minutes). Tickets; £5 on the door
> >
> > Forthcoming dates; Modulus, White Noise, Harald Grosskopf &
> > Steve Baltes, A Rainbow In Curved Air, and further artists TBA
>

If you never saw the TD cathedral tours of the 1970's, these London shows are a
rare chance to see live
electronic music in a spectacular church setting.
Each one is on the last Saturday of the month, starting 7.30pm. Nearest ube;
Baker Street (2 mins walk)

Saturday 22nd February 'Female Performers on keyboards, electronics & voice'
£5.00 on the door.
Akemi Kuniyoshi album launch, Alquimia, C LOOPSEEND

Saturday 29th March 'The Dark Side of the Force - ambient & experimental
electronic music' £5.00 on the door

Modulus (massed analog synthesizers) + Eddy Sayer (giant gong set &
electronics), Paul Hood (turntables),
Belaska (electronics)

Saturday 26th April 'An Electric Storm In My Laptop'
White Noise (Kaleidophon & electronics) and guests
featuring music from 'White Noise 5' and 'White Noise 5.5'

Saturday 31st May 'Berlin Comes to London'
Harald Grosskopf + Steve Baltes 'Digital Nomad' concert
Classic and new style synth/sequencer music from the Ash Ra Tempel and Klaus
Schulze drummer and Ashra
synthesist
Mark Jenkins 'Sequencer Loops' concert
Featuring the world live premiere of the massive 'El Monstruo' modular
synthesizer system - a feast of
flashing lights :-)

Saturday 28th June
'A Rainbow in Curved Air'
World live premiere of Terry Riley's classic composition on 1960's keyboards,
synthesizers and church organ.
Two hour continuous version, no support

Saturday 26th July
Artists TBA

Saturday 30th August
Artists TBA

Saturday 27th September
Artists TBA

Saturday 25th October
Artists TBA

Saturday 29th November
Artists TBA

More information at;

http://www.ampmusic.demon.co.uk/ampconcerts.html


> Message: 21
> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 20:49:11 -0500
> From: 'Jim Moore' <moxica@a...>
> Subject: TDP?
>
> I noticed that the Astoria CD was manufactured by TD*P* instead of TDI. Has
> the company name changed?
>
> __________________________________________________
> Jim Moore, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> moxica@a...

Maybe the giant and internationally known advertising agency TDI finally caught
up with them :-)


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39209">
From: 


'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  8:53
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] tt3 ftp


From: 'Jim Moore' <moxica@a...>


> I didn't mean for that to sound like a complaint 

And I didn't take it as such :-).


Maff


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39210">
From: 


'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  9:04
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] CHEAP INK CARTRIDGES


From: 'Robert Grabowsky' <hghlndr@t...>


> OK folks PAY ATTENTION:
>
> For those of you with HP, CANON, or EPSON printers check out these 2 websites:


Unfortunately my Epson is rather fussy when it comes to unbranded cartridges.
From the 'Jettech' manufactured cartridges with ink that clogs up the heads, to
the 'Inkrite' ones where the ink simply _disappeared_ out of the cartridge.
Honest. 48 hours after fitting them, the printer says I have full ink, but they
were clearly empty when I took them out. No leakages, the ink had simply
vanished.


Maff


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39211">
From: 


David Hughes <dhughes@g...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  9:14
am
Subject:  Subject: Jerome's Jacket


Hello all,

'Matthew Stringer' <qube@f...> asked :

> Why did he change his jacket for 1 track and then change it back again?

Maybe to check his sleeve notes? ?:)

<groan> 

Regards
David
-- 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\
---
Infection Music
http://www.infectionmusic.co.uk
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------\
---


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39212">
From: 
Dennis Nigbur <d.nigbur@s...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  9:21
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] CHEAP INK CARTRIDGES


And for those of you who want to do their bit for the environment, try 
greenstat.co.uk, where they offer recycled paper, ink cartridges and 
general office materials. Their recycled ink cartridges are about half the 
price of new branded ones, they work without a problem, and they 
even come with a freepost bag in which you can send empty cartridges 
back to be refilled again. 

Dennis


On 19 Feb 2003 at 20:37, Robert Grabowsky wrote:

> OK folks PAY ATTENTION:
> 
> For those of you with HP, CANON, or EPSON printers check out these 2
> websites:
> 
> www.allstarinkjet.com
> 
> www.meritline.com
> 
> Both have replacement cartridges CHEAP. They are not factory but they
> are identical to the ones you use and the ink is good quality. I have
> been using allstarinkjet and a friend of mine has been using
> meritline. We are happy with both and they also run specials on combos
> of color and black cartridges. No refilling or anything like that.
> 
> Both companies have outstanding service too.
> 
> BTW, I do not get anything for this endorsement. I am just passing on
> information for cheap ink.
> 
> THE HIGHLANDER
> 
> 
> At 12:35 AM 2/20/03 -0000, you wrote:
> >From: 'Jim Moore' <moxica@a...>
> >
> >> I got up to 120Kbps the other night -- awesome! Now to refill the
> >> printer ink for the labels...
> >
> >
> >I ran off two copies of the TT3 cover art recently, and my Epson C80
> >printer managed to go through 4 cartridges and nearly £50 worth of
> >ink.
> >
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> To unsubscribe: mailto:tadream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com 
> ----------------------------------------------------_-
> Dreamwatchers Tales 2 info at
> http://www.tadream.net/musos/watchgirl/
> 
> Tangerine Tree info at
> http://www.tadream.net/tree 
> 
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ 
> 
> 
> 


-- 
Dennis Nigbur
Research Fellow, Department of Psychology
University of Surrey, Guildford GU2 7XH.
Tel. 01483 682879


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39213">
From: 
Dennis Nigbur <d.nigbur@s...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  9:30
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Pictures from Jack Horner and Astoria Theatre


On 17 Feb 2003 at 21:54, Piotr Millennium 3 wrote:

> Hi,
> Pictures from Jack Horner and Astoria Theatre :
> http://www.astercity.net/~sulas/londyn_2003.html

Millennium,

very nice pictures, although I enjoyed the Warsaw ones even more! 
And what a collection of concerts and videos! Do you actually own all 
that stuff, or are you just cataloguing it?

(Sorry, I probably would know myself if I spoke Polish.)

Dennis

	
</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39214">
From: 


'David Wakefield' <yahoo@b...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  9:39
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Subject: Jerome's Jacket


I think the colour of his jacket changed when they used a lot of red light
in one of the songs. So he didn't change his jacket, it was an illussion.

Dave W

-------Original Message-------

From: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Date: 20 February 2003 09:21:47
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] Subject: Jerome's Jacket

Hello all,

'Matthew Stringer' <qube@f...> asked :

> Why did he change his jacket for 1 track and then change it back again?

Maybe to check his sleeve notes? ?:)

<groan> 

Regards
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<MESSAGE index="39215">
From: 


<heiko@o...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  9:48
am
Subject:  RE: TDP


Hello Jim,

I think yes, TDP - means Tangerine Dream Productions ??? or???

cheers
Heiko - Mr. Optical
http://www.opticaldream.de
BTW: my pictures and all my merchandise stuff from the London Concert on my
homepage at 21/02/2003


Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 20:49:11 -0500
From: 'Jim Moore' <moxica@a...>
Subject: TDP?

I noticed that the Astoria CD was manufactured by TD*P* instead of TDI. Has
the company name changed?
__________________________________________________
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<MESSAGE index="39216">
From: 


Kees Aerts / Groove Unlimited <kees@g...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  10:16
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Not Fair


At 19:13 19-2-03 -0500, you wrote:


>Hi,
>
>Not to sound like too much of a baby..
>but IT'S NOT FAIR THAT ONLY THE FOLKS WHO MADE IT TO THE GIG GOT TO PARTAKE
>IN THE GOODIES.
>I need/want all three of those cd's (Keep, Sony, Astoria) and now I'm going
>to have to resort to paying up the ying yang for them on Ebay.

Hi Brad,

You can buy the Astoria single at www.groove.nl


Best regards / Vriendelijke groeten,

Kees

GROOVE Unlimited (Specializing in Electronic Music)
Kees Aerts
PO Box 2171
8203 AD Lelystad
The Netherlands
Phone: +31 (0) 320 219496 ; Fax: +31 (0) 320 218910
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<MESSAGE index="39217">
From: 


'vic rek' <tangerinedream@a...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  10:15
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] RE: TDP


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <heiko@o...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 4:48 AM
Subject: [tadream] RE: TDP


> I think yes, TDP - means Tangerine Dream Productions ??? or???

Maybe this is a special label for UK issues? Just a guess.
Vic

	
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<MESSAGE index="39218">
From: 


Morgan Feldon <feldon@f...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  11:16
am
Subject:  TT3 Continued


Heiko,

1975 Orange, France is stunning compared to anything before (even VF).

So far the only disappointment is 1992 Detroit. I am doing further 
remastering on this which I will give to friends, etc. I will post a couple 
mp3 samples of before & after.

-Morgan


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<MESSAGE index="39219">
From: 


Heiko Heerssen <heiko.heerssen@h...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  12:52
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] TT3 Continued


> Heiko,
> 1975 Orange, France is stunning compared to anything before (even VF).
>
> So far the only disappointment is 1992 Detroit. I am doing further
> remastering on this which I will give to friends, etc. I will post a couple
> mp3 samples of before & after.

A somehow interesting email, because for me it shows again just how different
people judge about the remastering of TT recordings. Below are comments for
some TT3 concerts which I have been reading during the past few days (most of
them were private emails) :

Vol.17, Berlin 80 --> 'a big mistake' // 'almost release quality'
Vol.19, Paris 76 --> 'The one I had a major quibble with' // 'fantastic!!!'
Vol.21, Detroit 92 --> 'disappointing' // 'if only all masters sounded like
these beauties'
Vol. 22 Orange 75 --> '..is stunning compared to anything before' // 'the
source tape is crap, and does it show!'
Vol. 25, Detroit 77 --> 'not to say that it's bad....', 'a catastrophe' //
'this is simply stunning' , 'great! now I can throw away my old rotten tape'

Not to mention the endless debates we had about how to index certain concerts,
or giving names to unreleased tracks. At one point I was about to give up and
already told one of my 'remastering buddies' that TT2 would be the final
volume.
But nowadays I am take these things much more easier, because I learned that
everyone has a different approach to TD's music. It's not that I do not care
about other people's opinions anymore, but I learned not to take them
personally. And everyone who knows a thing or two about remastering and has his
own equipment would have done it in a different way (the one he thinks is
better) Such is life :-)
oh, and btw: Detroit 92 smokes!! ~lol~

Heiko


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<MESSAGE index="39220">
From: 


'michaeljean@e...' <michaeljean@e...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  1:58
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] B5 Episodic Question


One of the tracks is silent (ie no music)

Original Message:
-----------------
From: Robert Grabowsky hghlndr@t...
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2003 21:56:47 -0500
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [tadream] B5 Episodic Question


What is the flaw in the first run of the B5 Episodic CD for 'A Late
Delivery From Avalon'?

I have one still sealed and have forgotten. I am thinking about posting
it on Ebay unless someone here wants to make me an offer before I do that.

THE HIGHLANDER

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<MESSAGE index="39221">
From: 


'duncan mckee' <tangram@t...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  2:19
pm
Subject:  new releases


hi all
just spke to compact disc services in dundee and here are the release dates for
the two new cds
4 weeks for Mota Atma (soundtrack)and April for DM4(8 weeks).

do we believe this?

I for one don't i remember when i ordered Inferno from these i was given a
release date of around December 2001, it finally arrived september 2002


Thanks

Duncan McKee

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www.tadream.co.uk
www.tangerine-dream.co.uk

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<MESSAGE index="39222">
From: 


Steven Feldman <scfeldman@j...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  2:36
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] new releases


On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:19:42 -0000 'duncan mckee'
<tangram@t...> writes:

>[. . .] Mota Atma (soundtrack)

?!? Soundtrack to what? Did I miss something and this was 
mentioned here already? I have been deleting so many messages 
from this list lately that perhaps I missed it on a different 
thread.

>Duncan McKee

Steven Feldman

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<MESSAGE index="39223">
From: 


Jonathan Holt <plantpot_73@y...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  2:50
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] new releases


Maybe I'm nuts (woohoo!) but shouldn't we be able to
read about forthcoming releases on the official
website?!

--- Steven Feldman <scfeldman@j...> wrote: > On
Thu, 20 Feb 2003 14:19:42 -0000 'duncan mckee'
> <tangram@t...> writes:
> 
> >[. . .] Mota Atma (soundtrack)
> 
> ?!? Soundtrack to what? Did I miss something
> and this was 
> mentioned here already? I have been deleting so
> many messages 
> from this list lately that perhaps I missed it on a
> different 
> thread.
> 


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<MESSAGE index="39224">
From: 


'Owens, James' <james.owens@m...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  3:30
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] CHEAP INK CARTRIDGES


The answer is obvious: they mistakenly filled the cartridge with
disappearing ink.

> -----Original Message-----
> the 'Inkrite' ones where the ink simply _disappeared_ out of 
> the cartridge.
> Honest. 48 hours after fitting them, the printer says I have 
> full ink, but they
> were clearly empty when I took them out. No leakages, the ink 
> had simply
> vanished.
> 
> Maff


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<MESSAGE index="39225">
From: 


Morgan Feldon <feldon@f...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  3:34
pm
Subject:  TT3


> > I said:
> > Heiko,
> > 1975 Orange, France is stunning compared to anything before (even VF).
> >
> > So far the only disappointment is 1992 Detroit. I am doing further
> > remastering on this which I will give to friends, etc. I will post a couple
> > mp3 samples of before & after.
>
>A somehow interesting email, because for me it shows again just how different
>people judge about the remastering of TT recordings. Below are comments for
>some TT3 concerts which I have been reading during the past few days (most of
>them were private emails) :

There is, of course, nothing more subjective than the sound quality of a 
recording and different people's reaction to it, especially given different 
listening equipment. We went through this with Washington, DC '77. It's 
clear that some people don't even NOTICE tape hiss, some people feel that 
quite a bit is necessary to accurately reproduce the original sound if a 
master tape cannot be reached (I'm in this camp) and then some who have 
nightmares if the tape hiss is above 35dB. Go figure.


>Vol.17, Berlin 80 --> 'a big mistake' // 'almost release quality'
Honestly, after the heavy-handed remastering of Washington, DC 1977, I was 
happy to hear Berlin 80 not lose much in the digital cleanup. I really do 
feel that this is release quality.

The person who said 'a big mistake', he was comparing the remastering job 
to what? Lifted Curtain? White Cloths? Staatsgrenze West? (har har)

>Vol.21, Detroit 92 --> 'disappointing' // 'if only all masters sounded like
>these beauties'

Well, Detroit 92 does not sound 'balanced' to me. Bass is gone, and the 
high-end is over-emphasized, almost like low-bandwidth mp3 encoding. A a 
simple filter that brings up the bass, knocks down the treble some, rounds 
out the lower treble, and pulls the middle out more. Again, I'll post 
samples because I feel strongly about this one.


The remastering job that I really have to bring to task, though, is... what 
happened to Brussels 80? Please compare this side-by-side with Nostragram. 
Nostragram is BRIGHT! Nostragram is CLEAR! Nostragram is FULL spectrum. It 
seems that Brussels '80 and Detroit '92 got the same 'profile' overlaid 
onto them. Maybe this is simply a question of the speakers/headphones being 
used for remastering? Just curious... I realize that I do not have 
audiophile set up, far from it. I have $90 Sennheiser headphones which is 
pretty low-end.

>Vol. 22 Orange 75 --> '..is stunning compared to anything before' // 'the
>source tape is crap, and does it show!'

Not sure why someone is bringing up the fact that the source tape has 
problems. We know the source tape has problems. :|

>Vol. 25, Detroit 77 --> 'not to say that it's bad....', 'a catastrophe' //
>'this is simply stunning' , 'great! now I can throw away my old rotten tape'

My comment on Detroit 77 is that this show has been 'brought under 
control'. This is, in my opinion, the best effort to handle the tape 
at-hand. It might be interesting to note that I have my entire concert 
recording collection on my PC and so frequently compare two versions of the 
same show, even going so far as to put one recording in the left speaker 
and one recording in the right speaker to really compare it!

>Not to mention the endless debates we had about how to index certain concerts,
>or giving names to unreleased tracks.

Indeed a fiasco.

>At one point I was about to give up and
>already told one of my 'remastering buddies' that TT2 would be the final
>volume.

That would have been very unfortunate because I do think the TTs are a 
noble task. The resistance you have gotten from some corners of the TD 
community proves how powerful TT really is. :)

>But nowadays I am take these things much more easier, because I learned that
>everyone has a different approach to TD's music. It's not that I do not care
>about other people's opinions anymore, but I learned not to take them
>personally.

>oh, and btw: Detroit 92 smokes!! ~lol~

I'm glad you can enjoy something you have worked very hard to produce. :)

-Morgan

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<MESSAGE index="39226">
From: 


'Owens, James' <james.owens@m...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  3:39
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] RE: TDP


At some point in the past, liner notes of various albums (Lily on the Beach
in particular, IIRC) mention 'TaDream Productions'. Perhaps this is a
throwback...

> -----Original Message-----
> I noticed that the Astoria CD was manufactured by TD*P* 
> instead of TDI. Has
> the company name changed?

> Jim Moore, Atlanta, Georgia, USA

	
</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39227">
From: 


Falcon <falcon@r...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  3:43
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] TT3


At 04:34 PM 2/20/2003, you wrote:
>Nostragram is BRIGHT! Nostragram is CLEAR! Nostragram is FULL spectrum. It


Erm, any chance for getting a copy of this cdr ?
Anyone from germany having this one, please contact me off-list.

Ramon


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39228">
From: 


Rolf Elfström <rcade@r...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  4:00
pm
Subject:  Re: The Download of TT3 Works Great!!


>I plan to host future Tangerine Trees as well on my server. I think I
>have to remove some older files then, because the harddisc capacity is
>limited, but till then everybody should have TT2.
>
>Cheers
> Georg

Any chance of putting the DSC up for download? ;)

I would like to send big 'thank you':s to everyone
involved in all steps of the TT3!
As usual; exellent choices, remastering, covers etc.
And the ftp was the fastest and most reliable I've
ever downloaded from, thanks a lot Georg for making
this possible as DL is my only option.

Rolf


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<MESSAGE index="39229">
From: 


'heineu <heiko@o...>' <heiko@o...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  4:13
pm
Subject:  Re: TDP


--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'vic rek' <tangerinedream@a...> wrote:
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <heiko@o...>
> To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 4:48 AM
> Subject: [tadream] RE: TDP
> 
> 
> > I think yes, TDP - means Tangerine Dream Productions ??? or???
> 
> Maybe this is a special label for UK issues? Just a guess.
> Vic

or is it only for special releases the TDP label??? Then no cat. no. 
is printed on the cover.
I think also that all other new releases released at the TDI Music 
Label as TDI CD 0....

Cheers
heiko
www.opticaldream.de


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<MESSAGE index="39230">
From: 


Christian Villazón <christian@u...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  4:23
pm
Subject:  Nero Question


Hello,
Please I need some help with the Nero Program. I'd like to know how
can I burn the CDRs without the gaps (I think 2 seconds) between songs.
By example, I burn Volume 15 and I have gaps between songs and I do not
how to get a continuous CDR with Nero.

Thanks in advance

Christian


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From: 


'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  4:34
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Nero Question


From: 'Christian Villazón' <christian@u...>

> Please I need some help with the Nero Program. I'd like to know how
> can I burn the CDRs without the gaps (I think 2 seconds) between songs.
> By example, I burn Volume 15 and I have gaps between songs and I do not
> how to get a continuous CDR with Nero.


Start Nero, select a new Audio-CD and drag and drop all the wav files into the
list. Then highlight all the tracks, right-click and select properties. In the
Audio Track Info window that appears, change the pause value from 2 seconds to 0
seconds. That should eliminate the gaps.


Maff


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</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39232">
From: 


'tei waz' <teiwazbarana@h...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  5:16
pm
Subject:  re: CDRs


>same factory that produce discs for Maxell or TDK, and the discs are the
same, just the labelling that is different. <

the labelling or perhaps more precisely the top surface texture is the cause 
of some failures that I have encountered with 'branded' CDr blanks e.g. 
maxell, sony, occasionally TDK.... the smooth ones give no problems or at 
least none obviously due to texture....

--T


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<MESSAGE index="39233">
From: 


Christian Villazón <christian@u...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  5:44
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Nero Question


Thank you very much Maff

Christian


-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Sawyer [mailto:matthewsawyer@b...]
Sent: Jueves, 20 de Febrero de 2003 12:34 p.m.
To: tadream@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tadream] Nero Question


From: 'Christian Villazón' <christian@u...>

> Please I need some help with the Nero Program. I'd like to know how
> can I burn the CDRs without the gaps (I think 2 seconds) between songs.
> By example, I burn Volume 15 and I have gaps between songs and I do not
> how to get a continuous CDR with Nero.


Start Nero, select a new Audio-CD and drag and drop all the wav files into
the
list. Then highlight all the tracks, right-click and select properties. In
the
Audio Track Info window that appears, change the pause value from 2 seconds
to 0
seconds. That should eliminate the gaps.


Maff


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<MESSAGE index="39234">
From: 


'Micke Stark Runsten' <micke.stark@g...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  6:18
pm
Subject:  SV: [tadream] Re: The Download of TT3 Works Great!!


Yes, I agree, it works great! An average of 220kbps!

Thanks Georg, and everyone else involved with the work!

Micke

> -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
> Fran: Rolf Elfstrom [mailto:rcade@r...]
> Skickat: den 20 februari 2003 17:00
> Till: tadream@yahoogroups.com
> Amne: [tadream] Re: The Download of TT3 Works Great!!
>
>
>
> >I plan to host future Tangerine Trees as well on my server. I think I
> >have to remove some older files then, because the harddisc capacity is
> >limited, but till then everybody should have TT2.
> >
> >Cheers
> > Georg
>
> Any chance of putting the DSC up for download? ;)
>
> I would like to send big 'thank you':s to everyone
> involved in all steps of the TT3!
> As usual; exellent choices, remastering, covers etc.
> And the ftp was the fastest and most reliable I've
> ever downloaded from, thanks a lot Georg for making
> this possible as DL is my only option.
>
> Rolf
>
>
>
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<MESSAGE index="39235">
From: 


'loart24 <mat.mckenzie@O...>' <mat.mckenzie@O...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  10:51
am
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Classic Tree-question


Hi there

I've got the Time for Heroes 12' and it's a long time since I've 
looked at it but I could have sworn that the TD side was credited to 
them and the other side is a 'completely different' (and quite awful) 
track by mr meaty-loaf? are u sure they didn't write it?

Mat


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39236">
From: 


'gary' <frntrw@e...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  1:51
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] TT3 Tree


Ok, thanks for the info. Didn't check those structures. I have the set
already, so just wanted to get this going. None of my leafs have contacted
me as of yet.
----- Original Message -----
From: 'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] TT3 Tree


> From: 'gary' <frntrw@e...>
>
>
> > Hopefully somebody can answer this for me. I'm a branch on this tree.
> > How can I contact my leafs? I see their names, but no e-mail address.
> > Looks like only the suppliers have e-mail addy's listed. Am I looking in
> > the wrong area?
>
>
> If you note down the names of your leaves and search the other databases
on the
> group (TT2, TT3 signup) and the tree structures for TT1 here
> http://www.tadream.net/tree/AlphaName.htm and TT2 here
> http://www.tadream.net/tree/TT2/tt2-final.pdf you should be able to track
down
> the information.
>
> Your leaves should probably be contacting you, though.
>
>
> Maff
>
>
>
>
>
>
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<MESSAGE index="39237">
From: 


'davespicer99 <davespicer99@h...>' <davespicer99@h...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  1:00
am
Subject:  Classic Tree / Digital Soundtrack Collection request


Hi,

Would anyone on the list be prepared to run off copies of the Classic 
Tree and/or Digital Soundtrack Collection discs? I can offer TT2 or 
TT3 discs as a trade for those who didn't manage to sign up in time.

--
Dave


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<MESSAGE index="39238">
From: 


'Paul Dryden' <paulus.d@f...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  7:23
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Nero Question Off Topic


Hiya, Maff
I have Nero 5 disk that came with a cdr drive I had, I would like to use its
programs because of the sound editing and label creation.
The program refuses to work with my drive I have now saying it will only
work with the one it was bought with.....
Is there a way to bypass this and also have unlimited MP3 conversions....

PAulus.d

----- Original Message -----
From: 'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] Nero Question


> From: 'Christian Villazón' <christian@u...>
>
> > Please I need some help with the Nero Program. I'd like to know how
> > can I burn the CDRs without the gaps (I think 2 seconds) between songs.
> > By example, I burn Volume 15 and I have gaps between songs and I do not
> > how to get a continuous CDR with Nero.
>
>
> Start Nero, select a new Audio-CD and drag and drop all the wav files into
the
> list. Then highlight all the tracks, right-click and select properties. In
the
> Audio Track Info window that appears, change the pause value from 2
seconds to 0
> seconds. That should eliminate the gaps.
>
>
> Maff
>
>
>
>
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<MESSAGE index="39239">
From: 


'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  7:37
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: TDP


> > > I think yes, TDP - means Tangerine Dream Productions ??? or???
> >
> > Maybe this is a special label for UK issues? Just a guess.
> > Vic
>
>or is it only for special releases the TDP label??? Then no cat. no.
>is printed on the cover.
>I think also that all other new releases released at the TDI Music
>Label as TDI CD 0....
>
>Cheers
>heiko


The obligatory typo?
Maybe Mota Atma will turn out to be from a band called 'Tangreine Dream'... 
;-)

John Vertical

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<MESSAGE index="39240">
From: 


'colin' <canny.bevvy@b...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  7:43
pm
Subject:  RE: [tadream] Digest Number 1698


If you also select crossfade with beginning of next track by 5 frames (NOT
seconds) any clicks or gaps left by previous method are eliminated,

Cheers
Colin 


Message: 25
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:34:00 -0000
From: 'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...>
Subject: Re: Nero Question

From: 'Christian Villazón' <christian@u...>

> Please I need some help with the Nero Program. I'd like to know how
> can I burn the CDRs without the gaps (I think 2 seconds) between songs.
> By example, I burn Volume 15 and I have gaps between songs and I do not
> how to get a continuous CDR with Nero.


Start Nero, select a new Audio-CD and drag and drop all the wav files into
the
list. Then highlight all the tracks, right-click and select properties. In
the
Audio Track Info window that appears, change the pause value from 2 seconds
to 0
seconds. That should eliminate the gaps.


Maff


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 aolincnderson

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2/20/2003


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<MESSAGE index="39241">
From: 


'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  7:44
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Subject: Jerome's Jacket


> > Why did he change his jacket for 1 track and then change it back again?
>
>Maybe to check his sleeve notes? ?:)


LOL!
On a related note: is anyone else annoyed if a CD's sleeve notes or the back 
cover doesn't show the track lenghts?

John Vertical

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<MESSAGE index="39242">
From: 


'Colin Anderson <canny.bevvy@b...>' <canny.bevvy@b...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  7:45
pm
Subject:  Re: Digest Number 1698


Oh I forgot to mention that you need to select Disc at once (DAO) as 
the burn method in the burn dialog.
Cheers
Colin

--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'colin' <canny.bevvy@b...> wrote:
> If you also select crossfade with beginning of next track by 5 
frames (NOT
> seconds) any clicks or gaps left by previous method are eliminated,
> 
> Cheers
> Colin 
> 
> 
> Message: 25
> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:34:00 -0000
> From: 'Matthew Sawyer' <matthewsawyer@b...>
> Subject: Re: Nero Question
> 
> From: 'Christian Villazón' <christian@u...>
> 
> > Please I need some help with the Nero Program. I'd like to know 
how
> > can I burn the CDRs without the gaps (I think 2 seconds) between 
songs.
> > By example, I burn Volume 15 and I have gaps between songs and I 
do not
> > how to get a continuous CDR with Nero.
> 
> 
> Start Nero, select a new Audio-CD and drag and drop all the wav 
files into
> the
> list. Then highlight all the tracks, right-click and select 
properties. In
> the
> Audio Track Info window that appears, change the pause value from 
2 seconds
> to 0
> seconds. That should eliminate the gaps.
> 
> 
> Maff
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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<MESSAGE index="39243">
From: 


'fozziebear' <fozziebear.beehive@b...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  7:47
pm
Subject:  Astoria


I've been off list for a couple of days and missed some posts.

1 Did anyone at the show hear the alien seagull noise or was I imaging that I
heard it twice?

2 Volkmar Friauf said 'the British like to queue up', as one visitor
explained to me ;-)

Hi Volkmar, that was me. The worst crime you can commit in the UK is
jumping the queue!

David


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<MESSAGE index="39244">
From: 


'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  8:07
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] tt3 ftp


>I ran off two copies of the TT3 cover art recently, and my Epson C80 
>printer
>managed to go through 4 cartridges and nearly £50 worth of ink.
>
>Consequentally, I'd like to announce that the covers for TT4 will consist 
>of
>very stylish all-white graphics with white text. Not quite as nice to look 
>at,
>but we'll all save a small fortune when it comes time to print them.
>
>
>Maff


And how many shades of white ink will we need..?

Hey, how about cover art of the Optical Race style? Some cutouts could be 
nice, if the 88 tour will some day ripen and fall from the tree?

John Vertical

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<MESSAGE index="39245">
From: 


'Pergamon' <pergamon@g...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  8:22
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Re: TDP


----- Original Message -----
From: 'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...>
> The obligatory typo?
> Maybe Mota Atma will turn out to be from a band called 'Tangreine
Dream'...
> ;-)
>
> John Vertical

LOL....................


</MESSAGE>
<MESSAGE index="39246">
From: 


Jonathan Holt <plantpot_73@y...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  8:24
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Subject: Jerome's Jacket


YES! I don't know why, but it bothers me.
Anal? Moi?

> 
: is anyone else annoyed if a CD's
> sleeve notes or the back 
> cover doesn't show the track lenghts?
> 
> John Vertical
> 
>
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<MESSAGE index="39247">
From: 


'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  8:27
pm
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Windows 2000 (completely OT)


>I don't understand why Microsoft does not make files that are backwards
>compatible. Look at Adobe Photoshop. Each version piles on huge new
>capabilities, all very important to the customers and people using it for
>serious work. But you can still open a Photoshop 7 file in Photoshop 3 or 
>4.
>
>-Morgan


Thet get more money that way, of course. If <insert-MS-program-here> would 
be backwards compatible, nobody would've updated it any more than was 
necessary to get rid of the bugs. Except perhaps those rare 
semi-professionals who need all the minor gimmicks but not that much as in 
more specialized programs.

BTW, I've based most of my Windows arguments on NT, 98, XP etc. Even RG. I 
haven't come across 2k yet, and wouldn't have guessed it was that much 
better...

John Vertical

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<MESSAGE index="39248">
From: 


hghlndr@t... 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  7:42
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] CHEAP INK CARTRIDGES


What can I say. Ihave not had any problems with the ones I have been buying 
from aalstarinkjet


> From: 'Robert Grabowsky' <hghlndr@t...>
> 
> 
> > OK folks PAY ATTENTION:
> >
> > For those of you with HP, CANON, or EPSON printers check out these 2 
websites:
> 
> 
> Unfortunately my Epson is rather fussy when it comes to unbranded cartridges.
> From the 'Jettech' manufactured cartridges with ink that clogs up the heads, 
to
> the 'Inkrite' ones where the ink simply _disappeared_ out of the cartridge.
> Honest. 48 hours after fitting them, the printer says I have full ink, but 
they
> were clearly empty when I took them out. No leakages, the ink had simply
> vanished.
> 
> 
> Maff
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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<MESSAGE index="39249">
From: 


'dreamsector <Liondream@a...>' <Liondream@a...> 
Date:  Thu Feb 20, 2003  8:50
pm
Subject:  Re: Subject: Jerome's (cd) Jacket and 20 other things


Yes! I like to see them on the back where I can do some quick math 
before I buy it. Mostly for old stuff (that you know is probably going 
to be 40 mins or less) or for some soundtracks (e.g. Matrix orchestral) 
where the cd is only 28 or 30 minutes long. Especially in the case of 
soundtracks (that sometimes tend to be priced like a classical cd), I 
want to know if it's really short and be able to decide for myself 
whether I want to spend that much money on it.

I have to say that TDI is always very good about giving us full cds of 
music (for all the newer releases). It seems they're mostly pushing 70 
minutes or more each.

I'm NOT saying I endorse length simply for length's sake, but there are 
a lot of times when you get a new-release cd and it's 50 minutes or 
less. As a consumer, I appreciate getting a full disk!

I can see where as a musician it might be nice to be able to release a 
30 minute CD and call it a day! But these days it seems like that would 
be more of an ep.

Speaking of length... it might be kind of fun to put something on say a 
dvd (or something) and see how long of a continuous song one could put 
together (and still make it work as a piece of music). Kind of like a 
Scriabin symphony in the em genre. Separate cds don't count for what 
I'm talking about. I'm talking about one non-stop continuous piece - 
not even if it's multiple cds changing seamlessly on a cd changer or 
something. I'm talking about exploiting some form of strata to put it 
all in one place.

Could be an interesting performance thing too... a Guiness Book of 
World Records kinda thing... the world's longest continuous song. 
Simply starting a sequencer and walking away for a couple days would 
not count! Unless there was actual live playing going on at the same 
time. Maybe something for a future gathering somewhere, lol! Get 
sponsors and make it count for something too, for some worthy cause.

<entrepreneur mode off>


--- In tadream@yahoogroups.com, 'John Vertical' <johnvertical@h...> 
wrote:
> > > Why did he change his jacket for 1 track and then change it back again?
> >
> >Maybe to check his sleeve notes? ?:)
> 
> 
> LOL!
> On a related note: is anyone else annoyed if a CD's sleeve notes or the back 
> cover doesn't show the track lenghts?
> 
> John Vertical
> 
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<MESSAGE index="39250">
From: 


'Chris Owen' <chris@o...> 
Date:  Fri Feb 21, 2003  5:34
am
Subject:  Re: [tadream] Astoria


Yeah, I definitely heard the alien seagull noise, twice I think. It was
buried quite deep in the mix but was certainly there. It was sometime during
the second half of the show, in one of the new tracks.

- Chris

----- Original Message -----
From: fozziebear <fozziebear.beehive@b...>
To: <tadream@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 11:47 AM
Subject: [tadream] Astoria


> I've been off list for a couple of days and missed some posts.
>
> 1 Did anyone at the show hear the alien seagull noise or was I imaging
that I heard it twice?
>
> 2 Volkmar Friauf said 'the British like to queue up', as one visitor
> explained to me ;-)
>
> Hi Volkmar, that was me. The worst crime you can commit in the UK is
> jumping the queue!
>
> David
>
>


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